[AZORES-Genealogy] naturalization

[Mike]

I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a 
roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 
1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about 
him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife 
and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 
1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper 
article as well.
Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford, 
Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a 
citizen in Providence, RI.

My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in 
Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for 
naturalization in 1901?

Mike

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] naturalization

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It would not surprise me that he could have went to Providence, It is not
that far away. The records for Massachusetts naturalizations prior to post
WW II are in the Massachusetts Archives in Boston (near JFK Libaray). Tauton
District Court was the county  court house where I would think the
naturalization would most likely have taken place.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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Mike
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:09 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] naturalization

 

I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a
roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 1901,
this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about him. It
also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife and my
great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 1902, on the
ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper article as well.
Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford,
Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a
citizen in Providence, RI.

My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in Mass,
for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for naturalization
in 1901?

Mike

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899

[Eddie Machado]

They have, but only available to view at a local LDS. Some contract thing. 
I would have to order it from them to the local LDS to view.



On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:14:58 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
> To clarify what I posted earlier.
>
> There are no films of the Marin marriage licenses from the time period for 
> either surname, Machado or Cardoso. 
>
> It does not exist in the Familysearch catalog.
>
>  There is only the index. 
>
> This is the total catalog of Marin County marriage films
>
> Marriage license index, v. 1-2 1873-1934 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 981524 
> Marriage licenses, v. C-D 1881-1897 Family History Library United States 
> & Canada Film 981525 
> Marriage licenses, v. E-F 1897-1902 Family History Library United States 
> & Canada Film 981526 
>
> Marriage certificates, v. A-B 1856-1889 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1295781 
> Marriage certificates, v. C-D 1889-1898 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1295782 
> Marriage certificates, v. E-F 1898-1902 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1295783 
> Marriage certificates, v. G-I 1902-1904 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1295784 
> Marriage certificates, v. I-J 1904-1905 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1295785 Items 1-2
>
> Index to licenses v. 1 - 2 1873-1933 Family History Library United States 
> & Canada Film 1513887 Items 2-3
> Affidavits of licenses v. C (vol. A - B missing) 1881-1892 Family History 
> Library United States & Canada Film 1513887 Item 4
> Affidavits of licenses v. D - F 1892-1902 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1513888 Items 1-3
> Affidavits of licenses v. G - I 1902-1904 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1513889 Items 1-3
> Affidavits of licenses v. J - L 1904-1906 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1513890 Items 1-3
> Affidavits of licenses v. M - O 1906-1908 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1513891 Items 1-3
> Affidavits of licenses v. P 1908-1909 Family History Library United 
> States & Canada Film 1513892 Item 1
> Licenses v. Q - R 1909-1910 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1513892 Items 2-3
> Licenses v. S - T 1910-1911 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1513939 Items 1-2
> Licenses v. U - W 1911-1912 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1513893 Items 1-3
> Licenses v. X - Z 1912-1914 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1514082 Items 1-3
> Licenses v. 1 - 3 1914-1916 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1514083 Items 1-3
> Licenses v. 4 - 6 1916-1919 Family History Library United States & Canada 
> Film 1514084 Items 1-3
>
> Newspaper extracts from the Sausalito News, Sausalito, Marin County, 
> California : Sausalito, Marin County, California, February 12, 1885 to 
> December 26, 1890
> Statement of Responsibility: abstracted by Carolyn Schwab
> Authors: Schwab, Carolyn (Main Author)
> Format: Books/Monographs
> Language: English
> Publication: Novato, California : Marin County Genealogical Society, c2006
> Physical: 357 p.
> Subject Class: 979.462/S4 B38
> Title Also Known As: Sausalito News (California)
>
> Births, marriages and deaths from The Marin Journal, San Rafael, Marin 
> County, California
> Statement of Responsibility: abstracted by Carolyn Schwab ; typed and 
> indexed by Joy Lehmann
> Authors: 
> Schwab, Carolyn (Main Author)
> Lehmann, Joy Deal, 1946- (Added Author)
> The Marin journal (San Rafael, California) (Added Author)
> Format: Books/Monographs
> Language: English
> Publication: Novato, California : Marin County Genealogical Society (CA), 
> 1995, 1998
> Physical: 2 v.
> Subject Class: 979.462/S1 V28
> Contains abstracts of birth, marriage and death notices, and obituaries 
> from The Marin Journal.
>
> Contents: v. 1. Mar. 23, 1861-Dec. 28, 1872 -- v. 2. Jan. 2, 1873-Dec. 30, 
> 1880.
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Pam Santos 
> > wrote:
>
>> Also if you email them good chance they will email you the copy of the 
>> record (familysearch) they did that for me when a record was not showing 
>> available.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Eddie Machado 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to have a copy of whatever is available just to add to my 
>>> collection. It would be nice to have parents names. How do I locate what 
>>> church they were married in?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:00:01 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>>>
 Following that link shows that no image is available

 There is an indexing problem here. These are Marin County Vital 
 records. If you view the three different entries of this marriage  for 
 digital file numbers


 *Digital Folder Number: 004540544- not available online *


 *Digital Folder Number: 004666522-- not available online *

 *Digital Folder Number: 00466

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help tracking down Immigration and Baptismal Record for John Perry - Sao Miguel

[David Perry]

What a coincidence though unfortunately of no help to you.  My father's 
name was John Perry, my name is David and a family friend who helped my 
grandfather purchase a farm in MA was named Camara.  Good luck tracking 
down your John Perry.  Mine lived in the SF Bay Area most of his life as do 
I.
David

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:49:29 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote:

> I am trying to track down the immigration/ship passenger record for a 
> relative John Perry. From everything I found, he was most likely from the 
> Ponta Delgada area of Sao Miguel, and his birthday dates ranges from 
> December 1875 to 1879 based on various records (census, WWI draft register, 
> petitition for naturalization), but it could be different years. His 
> petition for naturalization record in Sacramento only states when he came 
> from Hawaii to California, but not when he came from Azores to Hawaii. The 
> census records say state he immigrated sometime around 1895. One ship came 
> in 4 April 1895 - The S.S. Braunfels. 
>
> One baptismal record of his first child Maria states his name as Joao 
> Damos Pareira. I searched the Index to Portugal Manifests on the Hawaii 
> Archives website and found a likely match - Joao Pereira Damaso who arrived 
> on the S.S. Braunfels in 1895. 
>
>
> http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov/gsdl/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASHeb18/98cce7a3.dir/doc.pdf
>
> It does not state is age but only he was from Delgada. I tried to look up 
> the record on the handwritten ship passenger manifests from the Portuguese 
> Consulate - It is microfilmed and available at the Family History Library 
> #1017125, but I could not find an entry of a Joao Pereira Damaso for some 
> reason on that ship. Maybe I missed it. The typed index card where I found 
> his name has #257, sheet 6 written on it. From what I can tell, this does 
> not correlate with the hand written numbers on the ship passenger lists. 
> Does anyone know what the original source info for the index cards is?
>
> Also, I am not sure on the names of his parents. The California Death 
> Record Index lists his father's last name as Camara and mother's last name 
> as Joseph. I have heard the family name of Camara from other cousins but it 
> has never been confirmed how the Camara (or Pereira Camara) name is 
> connected. He always went by John Perry.
>
> Any info would be helpful, 
>
>  Thanks, 
>
>   David 
>   
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization

[Mike]

I understand that because he was married here in the states that his wife 
would automaticaly be naturalized as well. If I can ever get the record 
would she be listed in the information as well? That would help make sure I 
have the right man because with her I know she is the correct person.

On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:09:21 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>
> I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a 
> roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 
> 1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about 
> him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife 
> and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 
> 1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper 
> article as well.
> Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford, 
> Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a 
> citizen in Providence, RI.
>
> My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in 
> Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for 
> naturalization in 1901?
>
> Mike
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization

[pico]

Hi Mike,One idea that might be new to  you is to check for him as a passenger to the USA after the date he became a citizen. The reason is that for returning USA citizens it says where and when they were naturalized.So the question becomes whether or not he ever did return to his native island for any reason.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization
From: Mike 
Date: Fri, December 13, 2013 8:40 am
To: azores@googlegroups.com

I understand that because he was married here in the states that his wife would automaticaly be naturalized as well. If I can ever get the record would she be listed in the information as well? That would help make sure I have the right man because with her I know she is the correct person.On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:09:21 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper article as well.Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford, Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a citizen in Providence, RI.My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for naturalization in 1901?Mike  





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Jose A Medeiros]

Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he had 
one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots

I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 

He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 

Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him

In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: European Portuguese?

[Steve Peters]

I don't know if anyone else here is in the Seattle area, but I have been 
studying privately with a woman from mainland Portugal (Algarve) for the 
past six months. She's a good teacher, a very nice person, and her fee is 
quite reasonable. If anyone is interested, please write to me off list and 
I'll be happy to pass her contact info along.

I know it is very hard to find learning resources that are not geared 
towards Brazilian Portuguese. I did quite a search for a good dictionary 
and finally settled on the Collins concise, which is mostly Brazilian but 
does include alternate words for European Portuguese.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization

[luiznoia .]

It's 40 miles to Providence from Fairhaven,

 It's 60 miles to Boston.




On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Mike  wrote:

> I understand that because he was married here in the states that his wife
> would automaticaly be naturalized as well. If I can ever get the record
> would she be listed in the information as well? That would help make sure I
> have the right man because with her I know she is the correct person.
>
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:09:21 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>>
>> I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on
>> a roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th,
>> 1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about
>> him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife
>> and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th,
>> 1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper
>> article as well.
>> Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford,
>> Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a
>> citizen in Providence, RI.
>>
>> My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in
>> Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for
>> naturalization in 1901?
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] naturalization

[celeste perry]

Mike,
   If being naturalized on the east coast of the US was the same as here in 
California, I will tell you what I found in my search for my son-in-law's 
great-grandfather's naturalization.  
   I began to look in Alameda County for his naturalization since he lived in 
Oakland (Alameda County) and had a plumbing business in Oakland.  After 
spending a summer going through the hard copies of the records in Alameda 
County, I did not find anything close to the name he used here, Frank Enos 
Sousa.  I began to look for the voter registration records for 1890; however, 
found that they had been destroyed at an earlier time.  
   When I had a lead that the voter registration records might be available, I 
needed the to know the township in which he lived, I went to the voter 
registration office and asked for the township in which his home address was 
listed.  I was told that changed for each election.  
   As I have written before, someone in the office led me to the "Erickson 
collection" and to the archive where the actual forms filled out by the voter 
were kept up to 1920.  I found his registration forms and one of them stated 
that he was naturalized in San Francisco and another that he was born in 
Flores, Azores!  
   To this day I do not understand why someone who lived in Oakland, before the 
Bay Bridge was built, would have gone to San Francisco to be naturalized.  It 
was a long trip around the bay and I was told you could be naturalized in ANY 
court, even a traffic court!
   So, don't give up, keep looking in all the places you think may be dead 
ends, sometimes our ancestors are probably laughing at us as we spin our wheels 
looking for information.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com



On Friday, December 13, 2013 5:09 AM, Mike  wrote:
  
I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a 
roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 1901, 
this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about him. It 
also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife and my great 
grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 1902, on the ship 
Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper article as well.
Everything I have though says he lived in
 and around the New Bedford, Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the 
Naturalization shows him becoming a citizen in Providence, RI.

My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in Mass, 
for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for naturalization in 
1901?

Mike

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I would
disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in action. If
it were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So many people
died at that time It is possible his death was not recorded or any next of
kin notified.

 

Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other variations you
can think of?

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

 

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Jose A Medeiros
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

 

Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he had
one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots

 

I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father )
mother was Maria da Conceiçao 

 

He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 

 

Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him

 

In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Karen Huffman]

Jose I know we've communicated before but I really believe somewhere in our
lines we connect. My great grandfather was Antonio Rodriguez Roque. He had
16 kids with Amelia Ernistina Cabral. All the kids were born in Sao Roque
or Sao Pedro. One of them was Jose Rodriguez Roque born 11 Dec 1897. My
great great grandfather was Jose Rodriguez Roque born 1831. He was married
to Francisca Candida. My great grandmother's father was Antonio deMedeiros
Cabral. Too many coincidences.

If any of those names are familiar to anyone, I'd love to expand my family!
Anybody?

(I'll start a new thread later)

Thanks, Karen
On Dec 13, 2013 8:23 AM, "Jose A Medeiros"  wrote:

> Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he had
> one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots
>
> I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father
> ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao
>
> He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898
>
> Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him
>
> In Ancestry I find nothing under that name
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899

[Sam Koester]

Cheri;  I've gone to: http://goo.gl/m90RHP  to find my parents marriage and it 
did not come up.  Apparently, they do not have all the marriages recorded... ?? 
 Sam in Maz


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> 
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>Here's the direct link: http://goo.gl/m90RHP";
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[rcapodc]

In the USA he probably was Joe Rogers or Joe Rodrick/Rodgers/Roderick. He could 
be any of those or anything else. As Rick says, if he wanted to miss being 
drafted he could have done anything. 

Rosemarie 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:35 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I would 
disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in action. If it 
were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So many people died at 
that time It is possible his death was not recorded or any next of kin notified.

 

Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other variations you 
can think of?

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jose A Medeiros
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

 

Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he had one 
) sees it and might have been looking for his roots

 

I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father ) mother 
was Maria da Conceiçao 

 

He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 

 

Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him

 

In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Jose A Medeiros]

Rick, the word was that he did not want to drafted into the army


On Friday, 13 December 2013 13:35:47 UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:

> *If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I would 
> disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in action. If 
> it were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So many people 
> died at that time It is possible his death was not recorded or any next of 
> kin notified.*
>
>  
>
> *Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other variations 
> you can think of?*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Spring, TX*
>
> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Jose A Medeiros
> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from
>
>  
>
> Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he had 
> one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots
>
>  
>
> I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
> ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 
>
>  
>
> He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 
>
>  
>
> Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him
>
>  
>
> In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization

[Mike]

yes he did go back home 23 days after being naturalized, and himself, 
Antone S. Perry,(Antonio Silveira Pereira), wife Mary Perry(Maria Leal da 
Rosa), and my Ggreat grandmother Mary Perry age 4(Maria Pereira). Their 
names all changed to perry I'm assuming after naturalization. They all 
returned May 17th, 1902 in NY aboard the ship Peninsular. So if I know when 
and where they came, can I go from that to his naturalization, to passport, 
that might pinpoint where he was from to hopefully figuring out if the man 
I think I have in cedros is actually the right man?

On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:09:21 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>
> I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a 
> roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 
> 1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about 
> him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife 
> and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 
> 1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper 
> article as well.
> Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford, 
> Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a 
> citizen in Providence, RI.
>
> My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in 
> Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for 
> naturalization in 1901?
>
> Mike
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Jose A Medeiros]

Karen, 

Jacinta Candida was my great grandfather's godmother Manuel de Medeiros 
Valério was the godfather.
My great godfather was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel December 13, 1872

On Friday, 13 December 2013 14:00:14 UTC-5, Karen A (Medeiros) Huffman - 
Paso Robles, CA, USA wrote:

> Jose I know we've communicated before but I really believe somewhere in 
> our lines we connect. My great grandfather was Antonio Rodriguez Roque. He 
> had 16 kids with Amelia Ernistina Cabral. All the kids were born in Sao 
> Roque or Sao Pedro. One of them was Jose Rodriguez Roque born 11 Dec 1897. 
> My great great grandfather was Jose Rodriguez Roque born 1831. He was 
> married to Francisca Candida. My great grandmother's father was Antonio 
> deMedeiros Cabral. Too many coincidences.
>
> If any of those names are familiar to anyone, I'd love to expand my 
> family! Anybody?
>
> (I'll start a new thread later)
>
> Thanks, Karen
> On Dec 13, 2013 8:23 AM, "Jose A Medeiros" 
> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he 
>> had one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots
>>
>> I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
>> ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 
>>
>> He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 
>>
>> Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him
>>
>> In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Marriage Record from 1899

[luiznoia .]

The California County Marriage collections has about 3.7 million records
and it covers  about  hundred years.

There are 37 million people in California as of 2010.

It's clear that all the records  of marriages in California are not
included in the collection.

Tha Familysearch catalog page will allow you to determine if the records
you are trying to search for exist https://familysearch.org/catalog-search




On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Sam Koester  wrote:

> Cheri;  I've gone to: http://goo.gl/m90RHP  to find my parents marriage
> and it did not come up.  Apparently, they do not have all the marriages
> recorded... ??  Sam in Maz
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help tracking down Immigration and Baptismal Record for John Perry - Sao Miguel

[George Nelson]

Kawika,  yes, John is not listed on the consulate log.  he is listed as #257 
page 6 on the Passenger Statement filled by the Master of the vessel arriving 
at the Hawaiian Islands.
 
if you would like a copy, send your mailing address to our email  
pgsho...@hotmail.com.  Dan, Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of 
Hawaii
 
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:49:29 -0800
From: oldschoo...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help tracking down Immigration and Baptismal Record 
for John Perry - Sao Miguel

I am trying to track down the immigration/ship passenger record for a relative 
John Perry. From everything I found, he was most likely from the Ponta Delgada 
area of Sao Miguel, and his birthday dates ranges from December 1875 to 1879 
based on various records (census, WWI draft register, petitition for 
naturalization), but it could be different years. His petition for 
naturalization record in Sacramento only states when he came from Hawaii to 
California, but not when he came from Azores to Hawaii. The census records say 
state he immigrated sometime around 1895. One ship came in 4 April 1895 - The 
S.S. Braunfels. 
One baptismal record of his first child Maria states his name as Joao Damos 
Pareira. I searched the Index to Portugal Manifests on the Hawaii Archives 
website and found a likely match - Joao Pereira Damaso who arrived on the S.S. 
Braunfels in 1895. 
http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov/gsdl/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASHeb18/98cce7a3.dir/doc.pdf

It does not state is age but only he was from Delgada. I tried to look up the 
record on the handwritten ship passenger manifests from the Portuguese 
Consulate - It is microfilmed and available at the Family History Library 
#1017125, but I could not find an entry of a Joao Pereira Damaso for some 
reason on that ship. Maybe I missed it. The typed index card where I found his 
name has #257, sheet 6 written on it. From what I can tell, this does not 
correlate with the hand written numbers on the ship passenger lists. Does 
anyone know what the original source info for the index cards is?
Also, I am not sure on the names of his parents. The California Death Record 
Index lists his father's last name as Camara and mother's last name as Joseph. 
I have heard the family name of Camara from other cousins but it has never been 
confirmed how the Camara (or Pereira Camara) name is connected. He always went 
by John Perry.
Any info would be helpful, 
 Thanks, 
  David   




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization

[pico]

Mike,It's possible that returning passengers only listed their date and place of naturalization in later years.I don't have it memorized. Maybe others will have been doing that type of research more recently.I do think I remember seeing this in records from maybe about 1918 and later. It's also at a time when most records were typed, not printed by hand.So in case he did more travel in later years, maybe you'll find something like that.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: naturalization
From: Mike 
Date: Fri, December 13, 2013 1:09 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

yes he did go back home 23 days after being naturalized, and himself, Antone S. Perry,(Antonio Silveira Pereira), wife Mary Perry(Maria Leal da Rosa), and my Ggreat grandmother Mary Perry age 4(Maria Pereira). Their names all changed to perry I'm assuming after naturalization. They all returned May 17th, 1902 in NY aboard the ship Peninsular. So if I know when and where they came, can I go from that to his naturalization, to passport, that might pinpoint where he was from to hopefully figuring out if the man I think I have in cedros is actually the right man?On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:09:21 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 1901, this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about him. It also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife and my great grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 1902, on the ship Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper article as well.Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Bedford, Dartmouth, and Fairhaven area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a citizen in Providence, RI.My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in Mass, for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for naturalization in 1901?Mike  





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Introduction and Information on Anthony (Antonio, Antonie) Family from Flores

[destinyslink]

Hello Eric,

Thanks.  I had only seen the 1859 entry but not the others.  That is an 
interesting observation.  So the thinking would be that he added a "c" 
because there was also another of the same name.  The 1859 and 1880 census 
do not show the "c" but the 1870 does.  He is noted twice in the 1860 
census one with the middle initial and one without.  I think he did end up 
selling wares as a peddler after his boating days based on some city 
directories.  The marriage announcement in the paper did not show the "c" 
in 1830.  Looks like the key will be finding his baptismal entry if 
possible in the CCA which would give us his parents names.  Thanks again 
for the idea.

Ed

On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:16:13 PM UTC-6, destin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> My name is Ed Anthony originally from Connecticut and now residing in 
> Tennessee.  I have been helping my son with the family tree over the last 
> few years and one our greatest challenges  is on the “Anthony” line since 
> it apparently goes through the Azores.  I am checking to see if anyone 
> has worked with the “Anthony” family from Flores, Azores.  All the U.S 
> information for the family leads back through my 3 GG who is Nicholas C. 
> Anthony and is documented as being from Flores, Azores.  Based on the 
> records in the U. S. his parents were also born there.  I have no parish 
> or village to go by.   Nicholas was born on January 6, 1808 and came to 
> the states sometime before 1830 when he married in New London CT.  I know 
> he was a mariner (whaling?) and eventually was a sea captain as his name is 
> on several CT crew lists and all note his birth place as Flores.  My 
> guess is that his name has been Americanized or the last name dropped but 
> not sure in what way (Nicholau Antonio or Nicholau Antonio ?).  I 
> took a stab at looking at some of the baptismal records in Flores on the 
> CCA Web site but my eyes are not great and have no knowledge of Portuguese.  
> I was able to make out some of the words but the script can be a 
> challenge. I found 5 parishes with baptismal records back to 1808 on Flores.  
> If there is someone who already has worked on this family or who already 
> has already translated some of the records I would be grateful for any help 
> you could provide.  I am particularly interested in Nicholas’ Portuguese 
> name (including what the “C” represents), and that of his parents, 
> grandparents, and other siblings if any.   I am open to other suggestions 
> on steps to take in locating this information.  Thank you for your time.
>
> Ed
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Gabriel

[sonia Desbois]

Hi my name is Sonia Anne Desbois and I,m in hope that you can help me find any 
trace of my great great great Grandparents who had a son called Simon Amton 
Francis Gabriel,my great grandfather was born between 1849 /1856 in Mauritius 
His Parents come from the Azares Island or Portigul and sometime later moved to 
Mauritius. The only information I have, Simons Parents names are Father, 
Frances (or Frank) Anton Gabriel and Simons mother Francis Marie (or 
Mary)GabrielPlease can you assit me with any information.I,m not sure if this 
is the way to go about finding information. Kind Regards Sonia
 
  

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gabriel

[pico]

Sonia,As others will also tell you, it's going to be tough when you don't have a more specific location.You will have to do everything possible to find a more exact location. It's almost like saying my ancestors came from Europe, can anyone help?But the original spelling of the names will be a step in the right direction:Simão is his Portuguese name, son of Francisco António (or Antão) Gabriel and Francisca Maria.I find that most often Anton or Antone comes from António, but Antão is a name and if that were to be anglicized it would likely be Anton.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gabriel
From: sonia Desbois 
Date: Fri, December 13, 2013 2:07 pm
To: "azores@googlegroups.com" 

 Hi my name is Sonia Anne Desbois and I,m in hope that you can help me find any trace of my great great great Grandparents who had a son called Simon Amton Francis Gabriel,my great grandfather was born between 1849 /1856 in Mauritius His Parents come from the Azares Island or Portigul and sometime later moved to Mauritius. The only information I have, Simons Parents names are Father, Frances (or Frank) Anton Gabriel and Simons mother Francis Marie (or Mary)GabrielPlease can you assit me with any information.I,m not sure if this is the way to go about finding information. Kind Regards Sonia   





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Anthony Soares]

A possibility would be he stowed away on a whaler and became crew,then 
jumped ship in Canada,U.S. or Brazil. Never studied the effects of WWI on 
Commercial Whaling or Passenger ships coming out of the Azores. Merchant 
ships were definitely targets for the German U-boats that prowled the 
Atlantic.

On Friday, December 13, 2013 12:02:29 PM UTC-8, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
>
> Rick, the word was that he did not want to drafted into the army
>
>
> On Friday, 13 December 2013 13:35:47 UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:
>
>> *If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I would 
>> disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in action. If 
>> it were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So many people 
>> died at that time It is possible his death was not recorded or any next of 
>> kin notified.*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other variations 
>> you can think of?*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Spring, TX*
>>
>> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Jose A Medeiros
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from
>>
>>  
>>
>> Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he 
>> had one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots
>>
>>  
>>
>> I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
>> ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 
>>
>>  
>>
>> He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him
>>
>>  
>>
>> In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] naturalization

[Shirl Sereque]

My grandfather's naturalization was also on a card like what you described.  
Have you written to Massachusetts Vital Records?  They were very helpful to me.
- Shirl -





 From: Mike 


I found on ancestry a naturalization record, looks like an index card on a 
roll-a-dex for my GGgrandfather Antonio Silveira Pereira for Sept 5th, 1901, 
this date matches exactly what he told in a news paper article about him. It 
also falls in line with with a passenger list record him, his wife and my great 
grandmother, for them returning from the Azores May 17th, 1902, on the ship 
Peninsular for a trip he mentions in the news paper article as well.
Everything I have though says he lived in and around the New Redford, 
Dartmouth, and Fairleigh area, but the Naturalization shows him becoming a 
citizen in Providence, RI.

My question is, since I can't find any record of his naturalization in Mass, 
for that time, would he have to take a trip to Providence for naturalization in 
1901?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site

[Pam Santos]

I sure hope they start adding again, Ribeira Grand would be next after the
last two from Ponta Delgada, with only 14 parishes in Ribeira Grande it
should go pretty fast to get to Vila Franca do Campo. (I Hope)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Jose A Medeiros]

Anthony,

I believe U-boats were a problem in WWII

On Friday, 13 December 2013 19:46:28 UTC-5, Anthony Soares wrote:

> A possibility would be he stowed away on a whaler and became crew,then 
> jumped ship in Canada,U.S. or Brazil. Never studied the effects of WWI on 
> Commercial Whaling or Passenger ships coming out of the Azores. Merchant 
> ships were definitely targets for the German U-boats that prowled the 
> Atlantic.
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2013 12:02:29 PM UTC-8, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
>>
>> Rick, the word was that he did not want to drafted into the army
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 13 December 2013 13:35:47 UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I would 
>>> disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in action. If 
>>> it were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So many people 
>>> died at that time It is possible his death was not recorded or any next of 
>>> kin notified.*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other 
>>> variations you can think of?*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>
>>> *Spring, TX*
>>>
>>> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Jose A Medeiros
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he 
>>> had one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
>>> ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from him
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

[Anthony Soares]

They were also used in WWI, The U. S. protested after the Sinking of the 
Lusitania which also killed 128 Americans who were on board. Germany agreed 
to change their Rules of engagement but later went back to unrestricted 
Submarine warfare in early 1917 as they knew the U. S. was going to enter 
the War. I just havn't been  able to find out if any of the 5,000 ships 
sunk were Whalers attacked on purpose or by mistaken identity. 

On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:35:26 PM UTC-8, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
>
> Anthony,
>
> I believe U-boats were a problem in WWII
>
> On Friday, 13 December 2013 19:46:28 UTC-5, Anthony Soares wrote:
>
>> A possibility would be he stowed away on a whaler and became crew,then 
>> jumped ship in Canada,U.S. or Brazil. Never studied the effects of WWI on 
>> Commercial Whaling or Passenger ships coming out of the Azores. Merchant 
>> ships were definitely targets for the German U-boats that prowled the 
>> Atlantic.
>>
>> On Friday, December 13, 2013 12:02:29 PM UTC-8, Jose A Medeiros wrote:
>>>
>>> Rick, the word was that he did not want to drafted into the army
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 13 December 2013 13:35:47 UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 *If I were 17 in 1915 and did not want to get drafted for WW I,  I 
 would disappear too.  Or perhaps he joined the army and was missing in 
 action. If it were the former he could have died in the Flu epidemic. So 
 many people died at that time It is possible his death was not recorded or 
 any next of kin notified.*

  

 *Also did you check just the name Jose Rodrigues? Or any other 
 variations you can think of?*

  

 *Rick*

  

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Spring, TX*

 *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *

  

  

 *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Jose A Medeiros
 *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 10:24 AM
 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Never heard from

  

 Let me write this in the forum and see if anyone of his family ( if he 
 had one ) sees it and might have been looking for his roots

  

 I had a great uncle named José Rodrigues Roque ( same name as father 
 ) mother was Maria da Conceiçao 

  

 He was born in S. Roque, S. Miguel on February 2, 1898 

  

 Around 1915 at age 17  he disappeared and family never was heard from 
 him

  

 In Ancestry I find nothing under that name 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gabriel

[Cheri Mello]

Sonia D,

A how to (30+ pages) can be found on the Azores GenWeb site here:
http://goo.gl/Cbf4Px
The main Azores GenWeb site can be bookmarked here: http://goo.gl/7bpuzk

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[Dano]

Don't count on it, Pam. Ribeira Grande is one of the oldest and most populated 
areas of S. Miguel
  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site

[Cheri Mello]

I thought after the council of Ponta Delgada they upload Faial or Graciosa
or something.

Cheri Mello
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