Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching about Maria Loriana Goncalves and Antonio Jorge Cunha

[Cheri Mello]

Rocio M,

The 3 pieces to get you started in genealogy are a name, a date, and a
place.  You only have the name.

Here's a "how to" get started from the Azores GenWeb:
goo.gl/WT5Ra1
Good Luck,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Correction

[Cheri Mello]

#22 Maria, 2nd of the name, daughter of Joao Machado de Mello, and of Maria
Izabel.
Blue ink:
Died in the freguesia of her nativity, on the day 6 of February?  Something
something something of this conservatory 14 .  Lajes do Pico 9 of February,
of 1000 900 50 and 3.

Someone will give you a better translation.  I think it basically says
Maria died over in Lajes do Pico on 6 of Feb and it's record # 14 of 1953.


Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Correction

[Luci]

Correction - she's record #22!

Luci

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Notes in the margin

[Luci]

I think I've found my grandmother's birth record.  I don't speak or read 
Portuguese, but I've made out most of the body of the text.  I can't, 
however, read the note in the margin.  Can anyone help with that?  It's at:

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-CALHETANESQUIM-B-1873-1874/PIC-LJ-CALHETANESQUIM-B-1873-1874_item1/P13.html
 

She's record number 23.

Thanks so much!
Luci

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Researching about Maria Loriana Goncalves and Antonio Jorge Cunha

[Rocio M]

Hello, I am researching information about Maria Loriana Goncalves  family. 
 I will apreciate any help. Thank you very much!! Rocío Matosas

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with parish of origin for Marianna Furtada

[Dano]

JR has accurately discussed the documents and provided you with Marianna's 
baptismal record. However, I would like to chime in since Mariana is one of 
my ancestors. Her sister, Antonia da Trinidade, was my 5GGM. Also, 
Mariana's husband, Juzeph, is also an ancestor, as his uncle, Leonardo, is 
my 6GGF, the son of Manoel de Mello, and, Anna da Moura, of Santa Maria.. 
There is more info should you need it. 

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:05:56 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

> I have been unable to find the baptismal record for my husband’s 7thgreat 
> grandmother Marianna Furtada.  I have been looking on Panta Garca, 
> VFDC, with no luck. I went back and reviewed her marriage record and a 
> couple of her children’s baptisms. I am including the marriage record and a 
> baptismal record that lists Marianna’s freguesia of origin separately from 
> her husband.
>
>  
>
> Baptismal record for Jonevusa – (I could use help with the spelling on 
> this name too) is on the left side, bottom entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P21.html
>
>  
>
> Marriage record for Jose’ de Mello and Marianna Furtada is on the left 
> side, bottom entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P191.html
>
>  
>
> It looks to me like the freguesia name is Myma but I don’t see that on any 
> list of freguesia names. Could it be an alternate spelling for Maia?
>
>  
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Erica Botelho
>
>  
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Last name of the father of the groom (Jacome?)

[Maria Lima]

Hello:

On the first link below, the left hand  page.  Is the groom's father's surname  
Jacome (I read his name as Joze  de Resendes (Ja_come?). I saw that Jacome  
name again for him on another record but I'm not clear on it.  Here's the link. 
  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1751-1790/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1751-1790_item1/P73.html

In trying to verify that name, I searched for birth of Joze's son, Francisco.  
While looking for the birth of his son in 1742,  I came across another child of 
Joze.  The handwriting  was a shock!  :)(oh my goodness!).   I need to get used 
to studying this priest's handwriting but I THINK it is record for 

Victoria, dau of Jose de Resendes Ja come (?)  or jocatre (?) and Marianna 
Carvalha  born ? Day of May 1743 (in the first link above, the name CarvalhA is 
spelled with an A at the end.  Could this just be the way I'm reading it, or is 
there a CarvalhA and a CarvalhO.  (?)
Padrinhos: Joze de Andrade and Vitoria de Andrade children of Francisco de 
Andrade and Maria ...(?)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1739-1749/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1739-1749_item1/P49.html

Can I ask someone for verification and help with these names. Thanks.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Any information regarding: Henrique Jose Rapozo de Amaral Spouse: Geronima Maria - Portugal

[Erica Botelho]

Tanya,

I can totally relate to your enthusiasm. When I first started, I drove my
husband crazy (even though it is his family that I am researching).

 

In answer to your questions: The record is from Nossa Senhora das Candeias
of Candelaria church.  So far, all I have used is what this group refers to
as the CCA website.

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

You choose the island, concelho and freguesia that you want to look at. Then
pick baptism, casamento(marriage) or obitos. The records are grouped into
ranges of years. When you find the year range that fits for what you are
looking for, click on the "ver" to the far right. It will open a new window
in your browser. From there, you can scroll through the pages of the book
and look at the images.

 

I would go back to the book that included the 1826 baptism. Start at the
beginning of that and look for all of Manoel's siblings. I work forwards and
backwards from my direct ancestor's birth date, until I go about 5 years
without a sibling (depending on how often the couple seems to be having
children). This gives me an idea of when the parents married and if they
only have a few children, then I look to see if one of the parents died
around the time of the last child. Some baptismal records give more detailed
information about the parents/grandparents than others. This is another good
reason to look for all the siblings. Once you think you have all the
siblings, look for the marriage record. Start at the year the first child is
born and work back from that year. Hint-look at the baptism of the oldest
child to see if it says "legitimate" if it doesn't, the wedding may have
taken place after the child was born, or the priest just didn't include
that.

 

Use the Azores GenWeb site. I assume that is where you found this group. I
use reference information off that site every day. I have a binder full of
"cheat sheets" that I have printed from there. My favorites are the
"Portuguese words list", "Portuguese names list", and the alphabet helped
initially too. There is also a short article by Cheri about Portuguese
naming conventions that was extremely informative for me. Make sure you look
under "Maps". When you open the window for the map of Sao Miguel, scroll
down. Under the map, they have a fabulous list of church names, freguesias,
and concelhos. I copied it to an excel spreadsheet and now keep the document
open at all times on my computer.

 

Good luck and I am so jealous that you are getting to visit Candelaria. My
husband's 3rd great grandmother is from there. I hope you enjoy your
genealogical journey through the records and your vacation in the Azores.

 

Erica Botelho

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[netadosAcores]

Happy Birthday  !!!
 
... and your  secret to a long and happy life is being active in the Azores 
Community, and  what else ?
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Sao Miguel
Pinheiro/Nunes of Faial  

 
In a message dated 4/2/2014 3:18:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
lionelholme...@gmail.com writes:

 
Thank  you!


Lionel




On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM, <_Seekgene@aol.com_ 
(mailto:seekg...@aol.com) > wrote:


Happy birthday, Lionel!
 
 

 
In a message dated 4/2/2014 2:02:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
_pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com)  writes:

I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the  oldest 
of our list members.


It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still  going 
strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We  already 
had a big party on Sunday.



Happy Birthday, Dad!



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira  Genealogist
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Kim Rowe]

Happy Birthday today.

My father isn't a list member.  But he also turned 95 on February 22nd of this 
year.  

Kim Rowe Jenkins
 


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Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:02 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
  


I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of our 
list members.

It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong - 
drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a big 
party on Sunday.


Happy Birthday, Dad!


Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
http://www.dholmes.com/
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Ângela Loura]

Parabéns, Lionel! "Saúdinha"! :)


2014-04-02 22:28 GMT+01:00 Lionel Holmes :

> Thank you!
>
> Lionel
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>
>> Happy Birthday!!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, rcapodc  wrote:
>>
>>>   Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that's great. Hope you
>>> have a very good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie
>>>
>>>  *From:* p...@dholmes.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:02 PM
>>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>>>
>>>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the
>>> oldest of our list members.
>>>
>>> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
>>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
>>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>>
>>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>>> 916-550-1618
>>> www.dholmes.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Joe Matias]

Happy Birthday, Lionel..Amazing!


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> Happy Birthday!!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, rcapodc  wrote:
>
>>   Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that's great. Hope you
>> have a very good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie
>>
>>  *From:* p...@dholmes.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:02 PM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>>
>>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the
>> oldest of our list members.
>>
>> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>
>> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>> 916-550-1618
>> www.dholmes.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford

[Martins]

Yes that is me
On Apr 2, 2014 4:42 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Manny , My greatgrand daughter is related to the Fontes from Candelaria
> . She goes back to  a Bartolomeu Fonte. Manuel Jorge Martins is
> Bartolomeu's six times great grand son. Were you born the 2 August, in
> Madalena, Pico.1964.?Was your father Manuel Dutra Martins and mother Maria
> Adelina Martins {Jorge}? Just started to research her family. Henrietta
>
> -Original Message- From: Manuel Martins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:31 AM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford
>
> Hello,
>
> Last night I found the passenger list of family members that immigrated
> to New Bedford in 1910.  I have confirmed the family but I have not
> researched it further.
>
> Does anyone in this list have Fonte or Fontes family from New Beford?
> They were originally from Candelaria but were living in Flamengos Faial,
> I believe that they moved there during the time when Faial was exporting
> oranges.
>
> Regards,
>
> Manny
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Liz Migliori]

Happy birthday Lionel 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Lionel Holmes  wrote:
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Lionel
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM,  wrote:
>> Happy birthday, Lionel!
>>  
>> In a message dated 4/2/2014 2:02:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> p...@dholmes.com writes:
>> I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of 
>> our list members.
>> 
>> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going 
>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already  
>>   had a big party on Sunday.
>> 
>> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>> 
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Thank you, Shirl. Do hope you'll make your wish, too.

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Shirl Sereque wrote:

> Lionel - I sure hope I'm as happy and well at 95.  Lucky you!
> - Shirl -
>   On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:45 PM, Lionel Holmes <
> lionelholme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Thank you,Diane.
>
> Lionel
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Diane Cox  wrote:
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> Happy Birthday, Lionel!
> Diane Lapp Cox
> Noia and Rogers families from Newcastle
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>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:02 PM,  wrote:
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> had a big party on Sunday.
>
> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Shirl Sereque]

Lionel - I sure hope I'm as happy and well at 95.  Lucky you!
- Shirl -


On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:45 PM, Lionel Holmes  
wrote:
 
Thank you,Diane.


Lionel




On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Diane Cox  wrote:

Happy Birthday, Lionel!
>Diane Lapp Cox
>Noia and Rogers families from Newcastle
>
>
>
>On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:02 PM,  wrote:
>
>I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of 
>our list members.
>>
>>
>>It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong 
>>- drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a 
>>big party on Sunday.
>>
>>
>>
>>Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>
>>
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>>Doug da Rocha Holmes
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rogers family from Newcastle, California

[pico]

Hi Diane,I am pretty sure your Noia family is from Flores.Is your Rogers family from Criação Velha, Pico?If so, then I suppose Aileen Gage is your cousin?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
From: Diane Cox 
Date: Wed, April 02, 2014 7:29 pm
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Happy Birthday, Lionel!Diane Lapp CoxNoia and Rogers families from Newcastle  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bishop Myron Cotta

[Sandra Valine Dauer]

>From the Feb 2014 issued of the Central California Catholic Life... Msgr.
Cotta, 60, grew up on a dairy farm in the Merced County community of Dos
Palos, the grandson of Portuguese immigrants from the Azores island of
Terceira...  Msgr Cotta's parents Daniel Edward Cotta and Mary Barbara
Martin.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:20 PM,  wrote:

> Sort of, Helen.
>
> Before Doze Ribeiras changed from just an ermida to a freguesia, it was
> part of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, as you probably know. Mine are
> from Santa Barbara.
>
> I was wondering why you asked, so I noticed one of your husband's Cota
> lines and I can't yet prove we are related by that one, but suspect our
> common ancestors from that line are Baltazar Goncalves and Maria Cota in
> the middle 1500s.
>
> But I see we do have common Cota ancestors from Catarina Cota and husband
> Pedro Lucas from the middle 1600s. I don't remember whether I ever
> mentioned that before. That appears to be about the closest of our links.
>
> Did you ever get him to do a Family Finder DNA test? That would be
> interesting to see if our match also shows we have matching DNA, as well.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
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>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bishop Myron Cotta
> From: his...@aol.com
> Date: Tue, April 01, 2014 7:33 pm
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
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>  Doug,
> Are your Cotta's from Doze Ribeiras?
> Helen
>  -Original Message-
> From: terceira 
> To: azores 
> Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 10:46 pm
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bishop Myron Cotta
>
>  I just read in the latest issue of O Progresso (by the Portuguese
> Historical Society of Sacramento) about the new Bishop Myron Cotta.
>
>  Any chance that someone knows about his link to the Azores? It says his
> grandparents were immigrants and I assume they were from Terceira, since
> that's where most named Cotta are from (now spelled as Cota).
>
>  I would like to find my own link to his family, since I have lots of
> Cota ancestors from Terceira.
>
>  Obrigado,
>
>  Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Thank you,Diane.

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Diane Cox  wrote:

> Happy Birthday, Lionel!
> Diane Lapp Cox
> Noia and Rogers families from Newcastle
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:02 PM,  wrote:
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>> I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest
>> of our list members.
>>
>> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>
>> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Diane Cox]

Happy Birthday, Lionel!
Diane Lapp Cox
Noia and Rogers families from Newcastle


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:02 PM,  wrote:

> I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest
> of our list members.
>
> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
> had a big party on Sunday.
>
> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Sandra Dauer:  thank you very much for your wishes.

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Lionel Holmes wrote:

> Thank you, Helen Salvador. I'm shooting for 96 now.
>
> Lionel
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer wrote:
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>> Happy Birthday and thanks for keeping your family history.
>> Sandra Valine Dauer
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM,  wrote:
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>>>  Happy Birthday Lionel, have a great day. 95 wow!
>>> Helen Salvador
>>>  -Original Message-
>>> From: pico 
>>> To: azores 
>>> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 2:02 pm
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>>>
>>>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the
>>> oldest of our list members.
>>>
>>>  It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
>>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
>>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>>
>>>  Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>>
>>>  Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Thank you, Helen Salvador. I'm shooting for 96 now.

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer wrote:

> Happy Birthday and thanks for keeping your family history.
> Sandra Valine Dauer
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM,  wrote:
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>>  Happy Birthday Lionel, have a great day. 95 wow!
>> Helen Salvador
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: pico 
>> To: azores 
>> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 2:02 pm
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>>
>>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the
>> oldest of our list members.
>>
>>  It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
>> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>
>>  Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>
>>  Doug da Rocha Holmes
>> Sacramento, California
>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Sandra Valine Dauer]

Happy Birthday and thanks for keeping your family history.
Sandra Valine Dauer


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:12 PM,  wrote:

> Happy Birthday Lionel, have a great day. 95 wow!
> Helen Salvador
>  -Original Message-
> From: pico 
> To: azores 
> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 2:02 pm
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>
>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest
> of our list members.
>
>  It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
> had a big party on Sunday.
>
>  Happy Birthday, Dad!
>
>  Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

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Happy Birthday Lionel, have a great day. 95 wow!
Helen Salvador

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From: pico 
To: azores 
Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 2:02 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member



I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of our 
list members.


It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong - 
drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a big 
party on Sunday.



Happy Birthday, Dad!



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[hisalv]

Nancy
He was left in the Roda in Angra, so I assume he was born there or some where 
near.  The woman to took him was from Santa Luzia, Angra.  He was baptized in 
Sé Angra
Helen


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Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 12:31 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, 
I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.



Helen,
 
Just curious, where was your exposto Vieira from?
 
Nancy Jean
 


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, 
I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
From: his...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 14:45:19 -0400


Cherri is right.  My grandfather was an esposto.  I had my brother YDNA 37in 
2007 then to 67 in 2008. He had 22 matches in  YDNA67, one as close as a 
distance of 2. NO GEDCOMS. I wrote to the closest with the name of Roque. She 
was from Porto Rico if I remember correctly. She told me none of her ancestors 
had ever been to the Azores and she wouldn't share her tree.  (Strike out )  
Only 1 other had a Portuguese name. The rest are English or Irish.  I couldn't 
find a connection with the 3 who posted their GEDCOM's . I have had my brother 
tested for everthing including 111 markers, in the hope someday we will have a 
definite match. and so I'll keep waiting. I would really like to know what my 
real name should be. Someone said the priest named the child. My Grandfather's 
name was Manoel Rodrigues Vieira.  Did the Priest know something??
 
Helen S


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From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 9:08 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, 
I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.



Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA 
Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests,  we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker results 
and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading this chart 
right).  There are 655 total people in the DNA project.  There are 1221 members 
of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates (home and work, for 
instance).


Family Finder - most definitely.  Y67 would be good, but be sure to get the son 
of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be prepared to wait.  


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online

[JR]

I notice you are still in the early 1800's, but believe me, when you get to 
the older records, they are difficult to read. I have a few ancestors, like 
Cheri and Shirley, that have their origins in early Santa Maria. There was 
small and steady migration of people from Santa Maria to Sao Miguel 
starting about 1695 all the way through to the 1900's. So I will be 
watching in case you have similar names. Good luck Ricardo!!

JR

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:36:00 AM UTC-4, rchaves wrote:
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> I guess Santa Maria is complete!
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with parish of origin for Marianna Furtada

[JR]

Here she 
is: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_item1/P100.html

>> Padrinhos- (a presentaram) Joao Rabello e sua mulher Antonai Furtada 
todos moradores no limite de Ribeira Quente termo deste lugar de Ponta 
Garca <<

And if you look at the parts describing where they are from and residing, 
you will have a good description of the relationship of Ribeira Quente to 
Ponta Garca. Despite being part of Povoacao Concelho, all the records of RQ 
before they began their own records, circa 1792 for baptisms, were kept in 
Ponta Garca. People who lived at one end, that is Grotas Fundas, were often 
closer to Ribeira Quente. Along the eastern border people established a 
trail that was used for travel, but mostly trade and commerce, between 
Ponta Garca and Ribeira Quente. Today it is walking trail with wonderful 
vistas of Vila Franca and Povoacao. On the western border, people who lived 
Ribeira das Tainhas also had their records kept in Ponta Garca. 

Drop me a line and I will see what I have for you.

JR

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:05:56 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:
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> I have been unable to find the baptismal record for my husband’s 7thgreat 
> grandmother Marianna Furtada.  I have been looking on Panta Garca, 
> VFDC, with no luck. I went back and reviewed her marriage record and a 
> couple of her children’s baptisms. I am including the marriage record and a 
> baptismal record that lists Marianna’s freguesia of origin separately from 
> her husband.
>
>  
>
> Baptismal record for Jonevusa – (I could use help with the spelling on 
> this name too) is on the left side, bottom entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P21.html
>
>  
>
> Marriage record for Jose’ de Mello and Marianna Furtada is on the left 
> side, bottom entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P191.html
>
>  
>
> It looks to me like the freguesia name is Myma but I don’t see that on any 
> list of freguesia names. Could it be an alternate spelling for Maia?
>
>  
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Erica Botelho
>
>  
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area - now in reprint

[rcapodc]

This is a marvelous book filled with facts/pictures/stories. Very much worth 
even $30 and softbound. I have the hardbound copy myself and refer to it many 
times! So happy that it is now in reprint!  Rosemarie 

From: p...@dholmes.com 
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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area - now in 
reprint

I just learned last night at the PHCS meeting that my father's book, Portuguese 
Pioneers of the Sacramento Area, is now in reprint again. It is soft cover (the 
original was hard bound) and I think I heard it costs $30, but you'll have to 
confirm that with my father or Mary Ann, our president (I'm sure she will post 
a comment, since she's on this list).

This reprint contains many corrections and a few additions, I believe.

If you have family in Sacramento, I believe you will find this book of great 
interest. And even if you don't have family, the first half of the book is full 
of the Portuguese imprint on this area.


Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area - now in reprint

[pico]

I just learned last night at the PHCS meeting that my father's book, Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area, is now in reprint again. It is soft cover (the original was hard bound) and I think I heard it costs $30, but you'll have to confirm that with my father or Mary Ann, our president (I'm sure she will post a comment, since she's on this list).This reprint contains many corrections and a few additions, I believe.If you have family in Sacramento, I believe you will find this book of great interest. And even if you don't have family, the first half of the book is full of the Portuguese imprint on this area.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Thank you!

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> Happy Birthday!!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, rcapodc  wrote:
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>>   Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that's great. Hope you
>> have a very good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie
>>
>>  *From:* p...@dholmes.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:02 PM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>>
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>> oldest of our list members.
>>
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>> had a big party on Sunday.
>>
>> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>>
>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

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Happy Birthday!!


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, rcapodc  wrote:

>   Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that's great. Hope you
> have a very good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie
>
>  *From:* p...@dholmes.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:02 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member
>
>  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest
> of our list members.
>
> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
> had a big party on Sunday.
>
> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[rcapodc]

Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that’s great. Hope you have a very 
good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie 

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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of our 
list members.

It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong - 
drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a big 
party on Sunday.


Happy Birthday, Dad!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Lionel Holmes]

Thank you!

Lionel


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM,  wrote:

>  Happy birthday, Lionel!
>
>  In a message dated 4/2/2014 2:02:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> p...@dholmes.com writes:
>
> I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest
> of our list members.
>
> It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
> strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
> had a big party on Sunday.
>
> Happy Birthday, Dad!
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

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Happy birthday, Lionel!
 
 
In a message dated 4/2/2014 2:02:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
p...@dholmes.com writes:

I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest  
of our list members.


It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going  
strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already  
had a big party on Sunday.



Happy Birthday, Dad!



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
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[AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

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I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of our list members.It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a big party on Sunday.Happy Birthday, Dad!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Any information regarding: Henrique Jose Rapozo de Amaral Spouse: Geronima Maria - Portugal

[Tanya Smith]

This is terrific. Thank you so much.  I'm still in process of converting my
old PAF files to Roots magic.  This site has been so helpful in gathering
information from my ancestors.

So this records are from Nossa Senhora das Candeias of Candelaria church?
I goggled that church building and it is beautiful, I need to do further
research of the building to see what has been restored, etc.  I am so
excited to visit Candelaria and actually have a tangible connection between
my relatives.

So, the next question is where do I go to find more birth and death dates/
places of the parents and grandparents?  How do you find records without
dates attached to names?  My mind is spinning. Sorry, so excited with new
found info.

thanks to you and Cheri! I think I am becoming addicted to this work.
Can't concentrate at my job.not good ;0)



Mahalo to the both of you.,



Tanya Smith


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> Tanya,
>
> I am happy to help, but may have over sold my abilities. I am not able to
> translate records word for word, but have learned to glean certain
> information from them. Maybe one of the more talented members will fill in
> the blanks for you. Here is what I read:
>
> Manoel, legitimate son of Henrique Jose Rapoza and Geronima Maria
> "naturaz" Nossa Senhora das Candeias of Candelaria.
>
> Paternal grandparents Thome' Rapoza de Amaral and Marianna de Jesus
>
> Maternal grandparents Manoel Moreira and Anna Theresa
>
> Born 15 and baptized 24 September 1826
>
> Padrinhos Manoel de Freitas and his wife Joaquina Eufrazia.
>
>
>
> I am not sure of the exact translation of "Naturaz". I think it is similar
> to "originally from" but hopefully someone else will add on to this.
>
> Padrinhos are godparents.
>
>  On many of the baptismal records, if someone named is deceased at the
> time of the record, the priest will write "defunta". I did not see that in
> this record. It could mean that all the grandparents were still alive at
> this time, or it could be that the priest didn't record it.  I add this
> little bit because I found many family records before I learned this and
> had to go back and re-read all of them.
>
>
>
> Your welcome,
>
> Erica B.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tanya Smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:16 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Any information regarding: Henrique
> Jose Rapozo de Amaral Spouse: Geronima Maria - Portugal
>
>
>
> How wonderful.  Cheri told me to post that and I may have feedback.  I
> didn't expect the record so fast.  This is the first find for me I am so
> excited.  Could you please translate for me.  I can only make out a couple
> of names but I don't know what the extra word would mean.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Tanya
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Erica Botelho <
> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>
> Tanya,
>
> Here is the link to Manuel's birth record:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1821-1851/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-B-1821-1851_item1/P28.html
>
> His entry is #150 on the left side.  It includes his grandparents' names
> also.  If you need help translating, let me know.
>
> Erica B.
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *tanya808smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 4:19 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Any information regarding: Henrique Jose
> Rapozo de Amaral Spouse: Geronima Maria - Portugal
>
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> I will be traveling to Sao Miguel this June for the first time.  I have a
> couple of ancestor names that migrated to Hawaii in 1883 via the SS Bell
> Rock from Sao Miguel to Hawaii. My GG Grandfather, Manoel Rapozo de Amaral
> came with his father, uncle and several siblings. I am hoping to connect
> more with the villages of my ancestors and perhaps records for deeper links
> to other family members.  I do not have any other information on my GGG
> Grandfather, Henrique Jose Rapozo de Amaral or his spouse.
>
> Any Help or links on any of these names or villages would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> My Mothers paternal side:
>
>
> Henrique Jose Rapozo de Amaral  - Portugal
> Sp Geronima Maria - Portugal
>
> Children:
> Manoel Rapozo de Amaral b. 1826 Candalaria, Sao Miguel, d. 1904 HI
> SP. Maria Agusta De Jesus Duarte b. 1830 Ginetes, Sao Miguel d. 1922 HI
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tanya Smith
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parish of origin for Marianna Furtada

[Erica Botelho]

I have been unable to find the baptismal record for my husband's 7th great
grandmother Marianna Furtada.  I have been looking on Panta Garca, VFDC,
with no luck. I went back and reviewed her marriage record and a couple of
her children's baptisms. I am including the marriage record and a baptismal
record that lists Marianna's freguesia of origin separately from her
husband.

 

Baptismal record for Jonevusa - (I could use help with the spelling on this
name too) is on the left side, bottom entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-175
2-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P21.html

 

Marriage record for Jose' de Mello and Marianna Furtada is on the left side,
bottom entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-167
5-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P191.html

 

It looks to me like the freguesia name is Myma but I don't see that on any
list of freguesia names. Could it be an alternate spelling for Maia?

 

Thanks for the help.

Erica Botelho

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford

[hmayer21]

Hi Manny , My greatgrand daughter is related to the Fontes from Candelaria . 
She goes back to  a Bartolomeu Fonte. Manuel Jorge Martins is Bartolomeu's 
six times great grand son. Were you born the 2 August, in Madalena, 
Pico.1964.?Was your father Manuel Dutra Martins and mother Maria Adelina 
Martins {Jorge}? Just started to research her family. Henrietta


-Original Message- 
From: Manuel Martins

Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:31 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford

Hello,

Last night I found the passenger list of family members that immigrated
to New Bedford in 1910.  I have confirmed the family but I have not
researched it further.

Does anyone in this list have Fonte or Fontes family from New Beford?
They were originally from Candelaria but were living in Flamengos Faial,
I believe that they moved there during the time when Faial was exporting
oranges.

Regards,

Manny

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[nancy jean baptiste]

Helen,
 
Just curious, where was your exposto Vieira from?
 
Nancy Jean
 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, 
I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.
From: his...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 14:45:19 -0400


Cherri is right.  My grandfather was an esposto.  I had my brother YDNA 37in 
2007 then to 67 in 2008. He had 22 matches in  YDNA67, one as close as a 
distance of 2. NO GEDCOMS. I wrote to the closest with the name of Roque. She 
was from Porto Rico if I remember correctly. She told me none of her ancestors 
had ever been to the Azores and she wouldn't share her tree.  (Strike out )  
Only 1 other had a Portuguese name. The rest are English or Irish.  I couldn't 
find a connection with the 3 who posted their GEDCOM's . I have had my brother 
tested for everthing including 111 markers, in the hope someday we will have a 
definite match. and so I'll keep waiting. I would really like to know what my 
real name should be. Someone said the priest named the child. My Grandfather's 
name was Manoel Rodrigues Vieira.  Did the Priest know something??

 

Helen S





-Original Message-

From: Cheri Mello 

To: Azores Genealogy 

Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 9:08 am

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, 
I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.










Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA 
Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests,  we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker results 
and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading this chart 
right).  There are 655 total people in the DNA project.  There are 1221 members 
of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates (home and work, for 
instance).






Family Finder - most definitely.  Y67 would be good, but be sure to get the son 
of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be prepared to wait.  




Cheri Mello

Listowner, Azores-Gen



Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada








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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Computer problem

[rcapodc]

I wondered what was happening! Maybe another line somewhere!  Rosemarie

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Computer problem

Rosemarie 

My computer won't let me reply. When I hit reply it sends. Crazy!

About Graciosa, I wish that was our connection. but the research I'm doing 
there is my husband's family.  I guess we keep on searching. As far as I know I 
haven't any  ancestors from there.

Helen 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

[hisalv]

-Original Message-
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To: azores 
Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online




Helen—maybe this is where our DNA connection comes in to play!  Rosemarie 

 

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

 

Me too!, Helen S


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To: azores 
Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 8:52 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online




Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

 

From: p...@dholmes.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:25 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

 

Well, some people's hunch was right.
 
While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

 
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Computer problem

[hisalv]

Rosemarie

My computer won't let me reply. When I hit reply it sends. Crazy!

About Graciosa, I wish that was our connection. but the research I'm doing 
there is my husband's family.  I guess we keep on searching. As far as I know I 
haven't any  ancestors from there.

Helen 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

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Helen—maybe this is where our DNA connection comes in to play!  Rosemarie 

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Me too!, Helen S
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Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

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Well, some people's hunch was right.

While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx


Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

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Helen—maybe this is where our DNA connection comes in to play!  Rosemarie 

 

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Me too!, Helen S


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Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

 

Well, some people's hunch was right.
 
While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

 
Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

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Helen—maybe this is where our DNA connection comes in to play!  Rosemarie 

 

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Me too!, Helen S


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Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

 

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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

 

Well, some people's hunch was right.
 
While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

 
Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[hisalv]

Cherri is right.  My grandfather was an esposto.  I had my brother YDNA 37in 
2007 then to 67 in 2008. He had 22 matches in  YDNA67, one as close as a 
distance of 2. NO GEDCOMS. I wrote to the closest with the name of Roque. She 
was from Porto Rico if I remember correctly. She told me none of her ancestors 
had ever been to the Azores and she wouldn't share her tree.  (Strike out )  
Only 1 other had a Portuguese name. The rest are English or Irish.  I couldn't 
find a connection with the 3 who posted their GEDCOM's . I have had my brother 
tested for everthing including 111 markers, in the hope someday we will have a 
definite match. and so I'll keep waiting. I would really like to know what my 
real name should be. Someone said the priest named the child. My Grandfather's 
name was Manoel Rodrigues Vieira.  Did the Priest know something??

Helen S


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I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.



Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA 
Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests,  we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker results 
and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading this chart 
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of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates (home and work, for 
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Family Finder - most definitely.  Y67 would be good, but be sure to get the son 
of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be prepared to wait.  


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

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Me too!, Helen S


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Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

 

Well, some people's hunch was right.
 
While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:
 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

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They wrote "mais ou menos" nearly 100% of the time, so I don't see it as a case where the priest didn't care.You can also look at that in another way - it might be how the priest viewed their condition or how old they looked. If someone who was really 85 was estimated to be 70yrs or so, then that might be a good thing!Often a woman can be estimated to be much older than she really was. To me, that makes me think she really had a hard life and looked 20 years older than she really was.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records
From: Antonio Roque 
Date: Wed, April 02, 2014 3:42 am
To: azores@googlegroups.com

When a priest would write "' mais ou menos "' in a death certificate was to me a very NOT caring kind of priest or was he too busy to ask a family member as to when the person was born and then correctly make the correct age notation? One thing for sure they did not dream that hundred years later they would be scrutinized for these mistakes by people looking for their ancestors.On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:25:14 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:Hi!I just sent you the first one i found in the book order. I have read some more josé s being raised by the paid couples… it is very hard to determine who is who… One could be suspicious about the “father”… but I do not think. The “father” is the same at other “adoptions”. He was the bell man of the church (sineiro)… I looked at the other josé s and the bell man was always the godfather…As to to age being wrong it was a very common thing those days. That is why you can read in the “assentos” the sentence “pouco mais ou menos” (more or less). It means a person had 50 years more or less (one more one less who cares at those days?!   





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Ricardo Chaves]

I guess we will have to wait for her :-) I am not sure what she meant too!


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Ricardo,
>
> I didn't go back and read the thread.  I just answered from a DNA
> point-of-view.  I thought this was the pai incognito thread.  Maybe she has
> the parents and it's not pai incognito or pais incognitos.
>
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Cheri Mello]

Ricardo,

I didn't go back and read the thread.  I just answered from a DNA
point-of-view.  I thought this was the pai incognito thread.  Maybe she has
the parents and it's not pai incognito or pais incognitos.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Ricardo Chaves]

Cheri have I read wrong or understood wrong, or Lyn already heard about his
parents names? That's why I asked!

*" ..I have been told his Parents names, but, each time I check this out...**
but, each time I check this out. the answers don't seem to fit"*


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> Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA
> Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests,  we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker
> results and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading
> this chart right).  There are 655 total people in the DNA project.  There
> are 1221 members of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates
> (home and work, for instance).
>
> Family Finder - most definitely.  Y67 would be good, but be sure to get
> the son of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be
> prepared to wait.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, there are enough people in this (Google) group, but not in the DNA
Project. We have 357 Family Finder tests,  we have 239 Y-DNA 37 marker
results and and only 22 more have gone out to the Y67 level (if I'm reading
this chart right).  There are 655 total people in the DNA project.  There
are 1221 members of this Google Group, although some emails are duplicates
(home and work, for instance).

Family Finder - most definitely.  Y67 would be good, but be sure to get the
son of the son of the son of the son of the pai incognito and be prepared
to wait.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

[Cheri Mello]

I always thought that people were unsure of their ages. So when they died,
someone told the priest that the person was in their 60s,70s, etc and that
was where the mais ou menos came from.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tony Capodicci

[rcapodc]

Dear Antonio, Thank you so much. It’s been a hard few days but emails from all 
the lovely people on the Azores List has been wonderful!  Rosemarie 

From: Antonio Roque 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:29 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tony Capodicci

My conddolences to you Rosemarie and your family

On Monday, March 31, 2014 2:59:06 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote: 
  My Dear Azores Group Family, 

  I am writing to let you know that my husband, Tony, passed away this past 
Friday. I have spoken with my girls and other family members and they are all 
encouraging me to go to Salt Lake City and teach at the Conference. Cheri told 
me that there were several people wondering about that fact. I promise that I 
will be there, God willing! 

  If you would like to send me an email, please address it to my home addy not 
the List. 

  Thank you all, Rosemarie 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

[rcapodc]

Yea!!!  So happy!  Rosemarie 

From: p...@dholmes.com 
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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

Well, some people's hunch was right.

While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the 
Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx


Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria - São Pedro - Online

[Ricardo Chaves]

I guess Santa Maria is complete!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe, Graciosa online

[pico]

Well, some people's hunch was right.While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the Graciosa baptisms for Guadalupe:Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

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Well, some people's hunch was right.While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspxDoug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilm

[rondo ranch]

Cheri,
Last time I attended the Azores Genealogy Conference (years ago)you reminded us 
to order the film for the various villages that we needed for our research.  I 
remember you sent an email out on how to look up the reference numbers and how 
to order the film.  Could you give me that information again? I cannot find my 
copy of that posting. Thanks Doreen Caetano

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Fonte/Fontes New Bedford

[Manuel Martins]

Hello,

Last night I found the passenger list of family members that immigrated 
to New Bedford in 1910.  I have confirmed the family but I have not 
researched it further.


Does anyone in this list have Fonte or Fontes family from New Beford?  
They were originally from Candelaria but were living in Flamengos Faial, 
I believe that they moved there during the time when Faial was exporting 
oranges.


Regards,

Manny

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tony Capodicci

[Antonio Roque]

My conddolences to you Rosemarie and your family

On Monday, March 31, 2014 2:59:06 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:
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>   My Dear Azores Group Family, 
>  
> I am writing to let you know that my husband, Tony, passed away this past 
> Friday. I have spoken with my girls and other family members and they are 
> all encouraging me to go to Salt Lake City and teach at the Conference. 
> Cheri told me that there were several people wondering about that fact. I 
> promise that I will be there, God willing! 
>  
> If you would like to send me an email, please address it to my home addy 
> not the List. 
>  
> Thank you all, Rosemarie 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

[Antonio Roque]

When a priest would write "' mais ou menos "' in a death certificate was to 
me a very NOT caring kind of priest or was he too busy to ask a family 
member as to when the person was born and then correctly make the correct 
age notation? One thing for sure they did not dream that hundred years 
later they would be scrutinized for these mistakes by people looking for 
their ancestors.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:25:14 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I just sent you the first one i found in the book order. I have read some 
> more josé s being raised by the paid couples… it is very hard to determine 
> who is who… One could be suspicious about the “father”… but I do not think. 
> The “father” is the same at other “adoptions”. He was the bell man of the 
> church (sineiro)… I looked at the other josé s and the bell man was always 
> the godfather…
>
> As to to age being wrong it was a very common thing those days. That is 
> why you can read in the “assentos” the sentence “pouco mais ou menos” (more 
> or less). It means a person had 50 years more or less (one more one less 
> who cares at those days?!
>
>  
>
> Hope it helps. 
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *Herb
> *Enviada:* terça-feira, 1 de Abril de 2014 00:12
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records
>
>  
>
> Hello 
>
>  
>
> It very well could be him. I just took another look at his death 
> certificate  and it says  he died on 11 Dec 1952 at age 80.  If he was born 
> in Jan 1871  and died in Dec 1952 he would have been 81 not 80 right? What 
> do you make of this information Eliseu? Interesting that the Godfather was 
> named Sousa and the adoptive father was named Silva but the age doesn't 
> quite match up does it?
>
>  
>
> Herb
>
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:05:39 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> There is a José exposto that “fits” your José.
>
>  
>
> In the book of 1871, registry nº 24, folium 10, left, we can read:
>
>  
>
> Baptized at 8 February 1871, Matriz, Ribeira Grande. It says he was born 
> the day before. He was exposto number 1825 in the Roda da Câmara, Rua do 
> Val, Freguesia da Conceição.
>
>  
>
> He was given to be cared to Maria de Jesus married to Manuel da Silva, 
> both living at Rua Nova, Freguesia da Conceição.
>
>  
>
> Godfather was Jacinto de Sousa Galante, married man.
>
> God mother was Ana Joaquina, unmarried woman, she was enlisted to take 
> care of the expostos (The municipality paid a certain amount to those women 
> to raise the expostos given to them).
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *Herb
> *Enviada:* segunda-feira, 31 de Março de 2014 19:06
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records
>
>  
>
> Hi Eliseu
>
>  
>
> I  am looking for Jose Sousa Silva who married Cecilia da Conceicao 
> Pacheco on Feb 1892.   In fact I have their  marriage record, (married in 
> Sao Jose PD) what I am looking for is his baptism  He was an "exposto da 
> roda" from NS da Estrela RG,  and I was hoping to see who the Godparents 
> were or to possibly glean some little tid bit of information that may 
> be helpful to my search.  He died in 1952 at age 80, in Sao Jose, but he 
> would have been baptized at NS da Estrela on or about 1871-1872. 
>
>  
>
> thanks
>
>  
>
> Herb
>
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:20:44 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:
>
> Hi! 
> Are you looking for José de Sousa Silva married to Jorgina? Son of 
> Maximino and Guilhermina from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande? 
>
>
> Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo 
> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Occupation of "Alferes"

[mances]

Maria,

The correct translation for Alferes, in this case, is 2nd Lieutenant.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 1 de abril de 2014 13h00min40s UTC-3, Maria escreveu:
>
> Thank you Manoel.  
>
> There was a lot of names there.  I looked up the occupation or title 
> "Alferes"  And it said Ensign.  It is curious that the priest wrote "THE 
> ALFERES".  As if the person were the only one like a judge or maybe the 
> keeper of a Lighthouse that served as an ensign .  
>
> I wonder what that occupation or title that be in the context of the 
> culture at the time?  
>
> Maria Elena 
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:07 AM, mances > wrote:
>
> Maria,
>
> The father is Francisco José de Resendes.
>
> The godfather is Bernardo José do Rego son of the alferes "Antonio do Rego 
> Sousa Coutinho", deceased, and Dona "Inacia Rosa".
>
> Manoel
>
> Em terça-feira, 1 de abril de 2014 00h41min49s UTC-3, Maria escreveu:
>>
>> Is the father Francisco Jose de Resendes( I'm guessing ) 
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P48.html
>>  
>>
>> Also the padrinhos puzzled me because it said the godfather was the son 
>> of - I could not decipher the name:  Bernardo Joze de Rego, son of Mathias 
>> (???) Antonio Do Rego (?)(causes?cant read it. Souza -and it looks 
>> like it talks about the padrinho being baptized .. Then does it say his 
>> wife is Donna Ignacia ? rosa? 
>>
>> I wonder why it gave relationships of godparents.   
>> Any help would be appreciated.   
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P48.html
>>  
>>
>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

[Ricardo Chaves]

Hi Herb, if I said any other way I didn't mean it, yes I loose myself in
writing sometimes, but the issue here is only spelling, converting names,
and tracking that back will be difficult if one doesn't know that,
(Example) Sousa, de Sousa or DeSousa is in most cases the same thing! And I
also wanted to understand why that happens there!

And I am here to learn and share as well, and I did, example, I didn't know
what you all referred to as a "Brick Wall" and now I do :-) and I hope I
never "hit" one!

Cheers


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> Ricardo while I understand your concerns, we are not trying to boil the
> ocean or cure world hunger here. We are simply trying to share our
> experiences and hopes with each other to learn what we can about our
> ancestors. It really is that simple. That's it. Herb
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[João Ventura]

Lyn

You HAVE to use the DNA tests to unravel this one. With this level of 
information, I really doubt that you can get a confidence level to go above 
simple guesses.

Cheri will tell you all about it, but in your case I'd do a Family Finder 
test for myself, and get a few of Joe's male-only-descendents to do 
the Family Finder + Y67 tests. There are enough people in this group that 
you should get a Y67 match to establish the identity of the family of 
José's father.

João C. Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

On Monday, 31 March 2014 07:53:39 UTC+2, crazy...@live.com.au wrote:
>
> Azores Genealogy 
> ***
> Hello. I hope someone can help me. I have been trying to get above this 
> part of my Silva, Ancestry. for 8 years, now. But each time I get to my 
> Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Silva, I hit a brick wall.  I have been 
> told his Parents names, but, each time I check this out. the answers don't 
> seem to fit.  So I am asking for some help  to find his Fathers and His 
> Mothers Name. Sadly on his marriage certificate it is written Parents 
> Unknown.  All his descendants are in place on my Ancestry. All his 
> Children,  their Children , and down the line  even to my great Grandson. 
> Below is the info I have on my Ancestry.com.au
> Cheers
> Lyn Silva/Budden
> **
> Joseph  SilvaYour 2nd great grandfatherBirth 1 Jan 1830 in Santa Cruz ou 
> Lajes. Flores, The Azores.  Death *Living* Death 7 July 1896 in Maryborough, 
> Victoria, Australia Joseph Silvaria M, #29097
>
> **
> 1846 — Age: 16MassachusettsMaine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and 
> Vermont until 1855 Then came to Australia where he married and had many 
> children.x15,  I believe.
>
> 
> 1855. 19 Feb— Age: 25Captain Samuel Gore. Sorrento, Victoria. 
> Australia.February 
> 19.-White Swallow, U.S. ship, 1192 tons. Samuel Gore, from Boston 21st 
> November .Fix this text No passengers. Captain Gore, agent Clover and 
> Edwards, agents Then came to Australia where he married and had many 
> children.15, I believe. 
> 1869  26 Feb— 
> Age: 
> 39Jones's Creek .The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. Friday 26 February 1869 Page 
> 5, list of New Insolvents - Joseph Silva, Jones's Creek, miner. Causes of 
> insolvency-Illness, want of employment, and losses in mining. Liabilities, 
> £85 14s. ; assets, £3 7s. 0d. ; deficiency, £82 0s,
> 1870 — Age: 
> 40Carisbrook, 
> Victoria, AustraliaAustralia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Joseph 
> Silver Name: Joseph Silver [Joseph Silva] Spouse Name: Catherine (Rogan) 
> Brogan.   Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria 
> Registration Year: 1870 Registration number: 3950 
> ***1896   7 Jul— Age: 
> 66Maryborough, Victoria, Australia . Joseph Died from an abcess on the 
> lung. http://www.chestnut-blue.com/Chestnut-o/i62.htm#s3223 Australia 
> Death Index, 1787-1985 about Jos Silveria Name: Jos Silveria Death Place: 
> Maryborough, Victoria Age: 66 Registration Year: 1896 Regi
> **
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