Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin notes

[Cheri Mello]

Maria Elena,

You forgot to attach the link.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Margin notes

[Maria Lima]

On lower right for GIL

can anyone decipher the year this individual died.  I read he died in parish of 
Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about some fee and then a date  but 
I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year.  If I could figure the USAR 
I could go to the obits.  

Any help would be appreciated.   Thank you.

Maria Elena 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[pico]

Antonio,Your point is excellent.I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA is the only way. I will point this out in the Portuguese Genealogy group on Facebook, where we have about 250 or so members and growing (but not growing as fast as the Azores group) and I think it could have some impact.Similarly, I recently was invited to join a Facebook group of people with Madalena, Pico ancestry and found I am related to them all (over 100 members of that group) and slowly working on convincing them to test.The answer is always to get more to test, so that's what I work on.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to
Mainland Portugal
From: A Faria 
Date: Sat, October 18, 2014 3:54 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

That's too bad about the Portugal DNA project, I realize that the biggest chunk of FTDNA samples are from North America there is a good sized Continental Portuguese community in the US  in  New Jersey, New York . There is a lot of potential samples there.  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[Lee]

My cousins ms sister in law is having her father in law tested (he be d a 
descendant of one of the many Mrdoncs families of Graciosa).  Not sure exactly 
which test they will doing though.  Will check snd see what I can find out on 
yah at.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[A Faria]

That's too bad about the Portugal DNA project, I realize that the biggest 
chunk of FTDNA samples are from North America there is a good sized 
Continental Portuguese community in the US  in  New Jersey, 

New York . There is a lot of potential samples there.



On Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:58:54 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The Portugal  DNA project is rather neglected.  No one recruits 
> participants for that project.  Hard to make matches when there's no one to 
> match to.
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

[Hermano C. Pires]

Herb
 
Here is what I can make out:
You have the date right!
Jose de Sousa son of Manuel de Sousa (Banavides) Benevides (the B is similar to 
the B in Baptism) and Ursula (Urcela) de Viveiros residents in N. S. da 
Apresenacao, Capelas where the groom was baptised  with Teresa de Viveiros 
daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Teresa de Viveiros, resirents in 
Divino Espirito Santo, Maia where the bride was baptised.
You had most of it! That is my two cents worth. Hope it helps.
Hermano
 
From: eliseuman...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:43:22 +

Name is Rego, I guess. De: azores@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Herb
Enviada: sábado, 18 de Outubro de 2014 16:44
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage  Hi Would appreciate if 
someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th 
great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  
As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom 
was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes 
difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to 
quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of 
that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start 
with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and 
groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[Pam Santos]

Thats not the record sorry. Its one of the other marriages. He is looking
for the wife of Joao de Sousa Travassos.,

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, JR  wrote:

> All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It
> says Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza Benevides e de Urcela de
> Viveiros... de Capellas, where he was baptised, etc and com Thereza de
> Viveiros filha de Manoel d Souza Travassos e Thereza de Viveiros fraguesia
> de ES-Maia where she was baptised...
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:19:46 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>>
>> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
>>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a
>>> fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande,
>>> Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha
>>> (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five
>>> villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find
>>> work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these
>>> families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last
>>> frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito
>>> Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa
 Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and
 Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:

> Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
>  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
> and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
>
> Hi Herb,
>
> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de
> São José.
>
> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas,
> and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
> Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
> married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>
> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this
>> record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and
>> Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they
>> were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de
>> Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out
>> any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism
>> which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>>
>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
>> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
>> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
>> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
>> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance 
>> for
>> any assistance.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
>> MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>>
>>
>> Herb
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[A Faria]

Thanks for sharing Mary, where in the Azores is your most distant maternal 
known ancestor from? Do you happen to know the name of the town in Portugal 
that mother of you match is from?


On Saturday, October 18, 2014 2:56:20 PM UTC-7, Mary Bordi wrote:
>
> My sole mtDNA match is to someone whose mother comes from a family in a 
> region of central Portugal where they have lived for generations. Not sure 
> if that's significant but it's all I have.
>
> Mary 
>
>
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014, A Faria > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack 
>> matches to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through 
>> myOrigins but she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco, 
>>
>> Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319) 
>> sub-haplogroups however are also uncommon and myOrigins really wasn't 
>> designed to connect people that share a common ancestor 15-20 
>>
>> generations ago. 
>>
>> My question is does anyone on this list have significant DNA matches that 
>> link the Azores to Mainland Portugal?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[Cheri Mello]

The Portugal  DNA project is rather neglected.  No one recruits
participants for that project.  Hard to make matches when there's no one to
match to.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[Mary Bordi]

My sole mtDNA match is to someone whose mother comes from a family in a
region of central Portugal where they have lived for generations. Not sure
if that's significant but it's all I have.

Mary


On Saturday, October 18, 2014, A Faria  wrote:

>
> I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack matches
> to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through myOrigins but
> she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco,
>
> Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319)
> sub-haplogroups however are also uncommon and myOrigins really wasn't
> designed to connect people that share a common ancestor 15-20
>
> generations ago.
>
> My question is does anyone on this list have significant DNA matches that
> link the Azores to Mainland Portugal?
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[JR]

All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It says 
Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza Benevides e de Urcela de Viveiros... 
de Capellas, where he was baptised, etc and com Thereza de Viveiros filha 
de Manoel d Souza Travassos e Thereza de Viveiros fraguesia de ES-Maia 
where she was baptised...

JR

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:19:46 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
>>
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR > 
> wrote:
>
>> Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a 
>> fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, 
>> Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha 
>> (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five 
>> villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find 
>> work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these 
>> families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last 
>> frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito 
>> Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa 
>>> Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and 
>>> Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and 
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de 
 São José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, 
 and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>
>
> Hi
>
> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
> record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
> Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
> were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de 
> Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out 
> any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism 
> which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>
> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance 
> for 
> any assistance. 
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
> MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>
>
> Herb
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[herb]

I am connected through Jose de Sousa and Theresa Viveiros. Their daughter Joana 
married Manuel da Silva in Sao Jose on 11 July 1778. But Manuel was first 
married to Joana's sister Maria who passed away. I read this in RR book awhile 
back but can't remember exactly where. Anyway the Manuel da Silva and Joana de 
Sousa line leads directly to my great great grandmother Maria Julia Silva and 
great grandfather Francisco Mendonca. Their daughter Diana was my grandmas 
mother. Amazing!!!Herb

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On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

>>> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR  wrote:
>> Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact 
>> I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas, 
>> Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area) 
>> where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages. Furnas by 
>> all the evidence is a place where people went to find work. And I believe I 
>> read from somewhere in RR, that some of these families were involved in 
>> opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last frontier. All the older Furnas 
>> records are in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da 
>> Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>>> Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora 
>>> da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria 
>>> Cabral from Porto Formoso
>>> 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:
 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  
 muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Hi Herb,
> 
> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
> José.
> 
> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
> Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. 
> They married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
> 
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
> 
> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
>> record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
>> Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
>> were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel 
>> de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make 
>> out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and 
>> baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>> 
>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
>> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
>> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This 
>> is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the 
>> names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in 
>> advance for any assistance.
>>  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>> 
>> 
>> Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[Pam Santos]

8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR  wrote:

> Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a
> fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande,
> Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha
> (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five
> villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find
> work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these
> families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last
> frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito
> Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>>
>> Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa
>> Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and
>> Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
>>>  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
>>> and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Herb,
>>>
>>> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de
>>> São José.
>>>
>>> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and
>>> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
>>> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
>>> Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
>>> married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
>>>
>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>
>>> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de
 Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out
 any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism
 which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for
 any assistance.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
 MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[JR]

Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact 
I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas, 
Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area) 
where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages. Furnas 
by all the evidence is a place where people went to find work. And I 
believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these families were 
involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last frontier. All the 
older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, Maia; same 
with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.

JR

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora 
> da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria 
> Cabral from Porto Formoso
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and 
>>  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
>> and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Herb,
>>
>> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
>> José.
>>
>> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
>> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
>> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
>> Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
>> married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
>>
>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>
>> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
>>> record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
>>> Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
>>> were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de 
>>> Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out 
>>> any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism 
>>> which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>>>
>>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
>>> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
>>> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
>>> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
>>> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for 
>>> any assistance. 
>>>  
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>> RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Herb
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[A Faria]

Doug,


Basically I am most interested in  Y-DNA and mtDNA  matches  that link the 
Azores to Mainland Portugal to get clues about the movement that occurred 
during the settlement process of the Azores . Very 

little of that history is recorded and I think DNA in the future will fill 
some of those gaps.

 

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:58:38 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:
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> Hi Antonio,
>
> Maybe you can clarify your question, but I know some have tested who have 
> both Y and autosomal DNA coming from the mainland and whose ancestor was 
> living in the Azores. But the person I'm thinking of was born in the middle 
> 1800s.
>
> Maybe you are talking about end of line ancestors from the 1500s who then 
> link to someone on the mainland and so far, for me, the answer is no.
>
> Doug da Rocha Holmes
> Sacramento, California
> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
> 916-550-1618
> www.dholmes.com
>
>
>   Original Message 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland
> Portugal
> From: A Faria >
> Date: Sat, October 18, 2014 12:07 pm
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
>
>
> I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack matches 
> to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through myOrigins but 
> she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco, 
>
> Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319) 
> sub-haplogroups however are also uncommon and myOrigins really wasn't 
> designed to connect people that share a common ancestor 15-20 
>
> generations ago. 
>
> My question is does anyone on this list have significant DNA matches that 
> link the Azores to Mainland Portugal?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[pico]

Hi Antonio,Maybe you can clarify your question, but I know some have tested who have both Y and autosomal DNA coming from the mainland and whose ancestor was living in the Azores. But the person I'm thinking of was born in the middle 1800s.Maybe you are talking about end of line ancestors from the 1500s who then link to someone on the mainland and so far, for me, the answer is no.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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To: azores@googlegroups.com

I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack matches to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through myOrigins but she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco, Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319) sub-haplogroups however are also uncommon and myOrigins really wasn't designed to connect people that share a common ancestor 15-20 generations ago. My question is does anyone on this list have significant DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal?  --   





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Name is Rego, I guess.

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Herb
Enviada: sábado, 18 de Outubro de 2014 16:44
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

 

 

Hi

 

Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 8 
Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
standard language on most marriages of that time

 

It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de 
Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with the 
letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the tougher 
ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, 
which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html

 

 

Herb

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[herb]

I wonder why they didn't list  her last name if indeed it was Nunes. Most 
records I have seen from that time period listed the wife's last name 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Erica Botelho  
> wrote:
> 
> From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria 
> Nunes.
>  
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pam Santos
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage
>  
> Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da 
> Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral 
> from Porto Formoso
>  
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:
> Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  
> muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and 
> Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Hi Herb,
>  
> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
> José.
>  
> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz 
> da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married 
> in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
>  
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
> 
> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>  
> Hi
>  
> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
> the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
> Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 
> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
> Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
> information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
> standard language on most marriages of that time
>  
> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
> de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with 
> the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
> tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride 
> and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>  
>  
> Herb
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[Erica Botelho]

>From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria 
>Nunes.

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam 
Santos
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

 

Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da 
Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral from 
Porto Formoso

 

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:

Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  muller 
 And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or 
Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:

Hi Herb,

 

They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São José.

 

José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and Ursula 
de Viveiros, from Bretanha.

Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz da 
Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married in 
Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:

 

Hi

 

Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 8 
Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
standard language on most marriages of that time

 

It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de 
Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with the 
letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the tougher 
ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, 
which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html

 

 

Herb

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal

[A Faria]

I have taken several DNA tests mtDNA, Y-DNA and myOrigins and lack matches 
to mainland Portugal. I match one person from Lisbon through myOrigins but 
she has a verified Pereira ancestor from Castelo Branco, 

Faial born about 1700. My mtDNA(T2b-T16296C!) and Y-DNA(J-M319) 
sub-haplogroups however are also uncommon and myOrigins really wasn't 
designed to connect people that share a common ancestor 15-20 

generations ago. 

My question is does anyone on this list have significant DNA matches that 
link the Azores to Mainland Portugal?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[Pam Santos]

Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora
da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria
Cabral from Porto Formoso

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb  wrote:

> Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
>  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
> and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
>
> Hi Herb,
>
> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São
> José.
>
> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and
> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
> Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
> married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>
> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record
>> of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa
>> de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were
>> married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza
>> who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any
>> additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which
>> is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>>
>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
>> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
>> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
>> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
>> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for
>> any assistance.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>>
>>
>> Herb
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[herb]

Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  muller 
 And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or 
Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Hi Herb,
> 
> They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
> José.
> 
> José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
> Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
> Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz 
> da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married 
> in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
> 
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
> 
> Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
>> the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
>> Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 
>> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
>> Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
>> information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
>> standard language on most marriages of that time
>> 
>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
>> de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with 
>> the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
>> tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride 
>> and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>> 
>> 
>> Herb
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

[mances]

Hi Herb,

They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
José.

José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
>
>
> Hi
>
> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record 
> of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa 
> de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were 
> married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza 
> who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any 
> additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which 
> is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>
> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for 
> any assistance. 
>  
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>
>
> Herb
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

[herb]

Excellent. Thanks Pam

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
> 
> He was the son of Manuel de Sousa and Ursula de Viveiros. She was the 
> daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Theresa de Viveiros
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Herb  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
>> the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
>> Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 
>> 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
>> Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
>> information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
>> standard language on most marriages of that time
>> 
>> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
>> de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with 
>> the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
>> tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride 
>> and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>> 
>> 
>> Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FELICIANO

[Pam Santos]

Shirly Allegre, Cheri, Joe and someone else on this list is related to this
line also.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

> Umbelina da Conceicao was my kids 3rd great aunt. Her sister Maria Libania
> was their 3rd great grandmother. Attached is her ancestors.
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, JR  wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874_item1/P11.html
>>
>> Vila Franca Sao Miguel (VFSM), Aug 29- 1870 Joao Jacinto Feliciano cc
>> Maria do Rosario. He is 23 yrs old, pedreiro, nat, res and bap VFSM, son of
>> Jose Jacinto and Umbelina da Conceicao; she is 21 yrs old, living in
>> parents house, nat,and bap VFSM, daughter of Jose Jacinto do Couto and
>> Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P155.html
>> 
>> VFSM- June 1- 1848, Joao Jacinto cc Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus; he
>> is son of Manuel do Couto and Francisca de Jesus, deceased; she is daughter
>> of Antonio Joaquim Serpa, deceased and Claudina Maria, both natives VFSM
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P118.html
>> Sept 14- 1845, Jose Jacinto cc Umbelina da Conceicao; He is son of
>> Januario Francisco and Maria Francisca; she is daughter of Jacinto Jose and
>> Mariana Claudina, natives and residents VFSM
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:37:05 PM UTC-4, Hermano C. Pires wrote:
>>>
>>> That is pretty sketchy. Any details?
>>> Hermano
>>>
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>>> From: harryq...@gmail.com
>>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FELICIANO
>>>
>>> Searching for info on Joao Feliciano & family from San Miguel, Azores in
>>> late 1800s to Hawaii.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

[Pam Santos]

He was the son of Manuel de Sousa and Ursula de Viveiros. She was the
daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Theresa de Viveiros

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Herb  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record
> of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa
> de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were
> married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza
> who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any
> additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which
> is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
>
> It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
> Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
> start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
> one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
> of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for
> any assistance.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
>
>
> Herb
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[AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage

[Herb]

Hi

Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record 
of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa 
de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were 
married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza 
who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any 
additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which 
is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start 
with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of 
the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the 
bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any 
assistance. 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


Herb

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Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ja Defunto

[Herb and Judi Silva]

  Thank you all for your help.  Have a great weekend Herb On 10/17/14, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: Yes Herb, in the later records of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, the Priest does NOT indicate a parent's death at all. Very frustrating when you are trying to pin down the right couple or when the parent has passed! Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia SicilyOn Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Herb  wrote:Has anyone come across a situation where a parent of the groom or bride  in a marriage record is not listed as being  dead " defunto" but you know for a fact that the  parent was already  dead? Herb-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/9AeNgGhn378/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.



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