Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[bsei2816]

I'm fairly sure Maria's second post had the mother's name correct as Anna 
do Rosario (not Anna Rosa).  What I interpret from this record is as 
follows:


Jose born 6 March 1877 and baptized on 16 March 1877 at NS de Purificacao, 
Santo Espirito

Mother: Anna do Rosario who is the widow of Antonio Francisco

Father: Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos de Melo and his wife 
Antonia ?Pereira? (not sure) naturals of this parish

Maternal grandparents: MIguel Fernandes and his wife Maria de ?Morena? (not 
sure), both naturals of this parish.

Godparents: Jose Francisco do Rego and Antonia Jacinta do Rego, children of 
Bernardo Jose do Rego

Bill Seidler


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Cheri Mello]

Once upon a time, Jose was born to Ana Rosa. Ana Rosa was married to
Antonio Francisco, but he died (apparently 7 years prior). Now, Ana Rosa
has found happiness again with her fiance, Bartolomeu de Andrade son
of..

Yeah, what Margaret wrote makes sense. Maybe Ana Rosa and Bart were waiting
on a dispensation. Was one mentioned in their marriage?

Cheri Mello
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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It is not exactly that way.  It reads:
>
> Jose,  son of Ana Rosa, widow of Antonio Francisco,  and of her (esposo)
> fiance Bartolomeu de Andrade, son of ...
>
> The child is that of the widow (Ana Rosa) and her boyfriend Bartolomeu.
>
> Nothing to do with the first husband. It uses his name as a identifier
> only.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow, I figured this out!
>>
>> Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child,
>> Jose p, was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November
>>  1777.  (Feeling like a detective here)
>>
>>
>> Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo,
>> Bartholomeu de Andrade
>>
>> The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.
>>
>> Maria Elena
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>
>> TOP LEFT
>>
>> I'm seeing:
>>
>> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio
>> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos
>>  de Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
>> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism
>> of Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an
>> exposto.  So I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_
>> item1/P100.html
>>
>> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[bsei2816]

Here is the obit for Antonio Francisco married to Anna do Rosario (bottom 
left). 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1759-1793/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1759-1793_item1/P37.html

He died 24 March 1770 seven years before his widow's child was born.

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi,

It is not exactly that way.  It reads:

Jose,  son of Ana Rosa, widow of Antonio Francisco,  and of her (esposo)
fiance Bartolomeu de Andrade, son of ...

The child is that of the widow (Ana Rosa) and her boyfriend Bartolomeu.

Nothing to do with the first husband. It uses his name as a identifier
only.





On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> Wow, I figured this out!
>
> Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child,
> Jose p, was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November
>  1777.  (Feeling like a detective here)
>
>
> Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo,
> Bartholomeu de Andrade
>
> The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>
> TOP LEFT
>
> I'm seeing:
>
> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio
> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos
>  de Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism
> of Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an
> exposto.  So I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-
> 1779_item1/P100.html
>
> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Maria Lima]

I've not seen a record like this either but I figured she was expecting when 
Antonio died..  since baby was born in march and she married in November, I 
assume baby is antonio's. And that's why the priest brought his name into the 
record and that she was widowed.  

 

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> On Oct 9, 2016, at 10:11 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I believe it is saying that Bartholomeu is the father of the baby.  This 
> looks like it says he is her "esposo" which I thought meant "husband" the 
> same as "marido", but they didn't marry until 5 months later (according to 
> your post) so maybe esposo does not necessarily mean husband.  
> 
> If she were expecting when Antonio Francisco died I think it would say: 
> "Jose, filho de Antonio Francisco, ja defuncto, e de sua mulher Anna do 
> Rosario".
> 
> I could be wrong.  I've never seen a record quite like this before.
> 
> Bill Seidler
> 
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 7:52:57 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>> Wow, I figured this out!  
>> 
>> Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child, Jose 
>> p, was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November  1777.  
>> (Feeling like a detective here) 
>> 
>> 
>> Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo, 
>> Bartholomeu de Andrade
>> 
>> The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.  
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>>> 
>>> TOP LEFT 
>>> 
>>> I'm seeing:
>>> 
>>> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio 
>>> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos  
>>> de Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
>>> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism of 
>>> Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an exposto.  
>>> So I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P100.html
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[bsei2816]

I believe it is saying that Bartholomeu is the father of the baby.  This 
looks like it says he is her "esposo" which I thought meant "husband" the 
same as "marido", but they didn't marry until 5 months later (according to 
your post) so maybe esposo does not necessarily mean husband.  

If she were expecting when Antonio Francisco died I think it would say: 
"Jose, filho de Antonio Francisco, ja defuncto, e de sua mulher Anna do 
Rosario".

I could be wrong.  I've never seen a record quite like this before.

Bill Seidler

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 7:52:57 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
> Wow, I figured this out!  
>
> Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child, 
> Jose p, was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November 
>  1777.  (Feeling like a detective here) 
>
>
> Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo, 
> Bartholomeu de Andrade
>
> The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.  
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  
> wrote:
>
> TOP LEFT 
>
> I'm seeing:
>
> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio 
> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos 
>  de Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism 
> of Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an exposto. 
>  So I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!  
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P100.html
>
> Maria Elena 
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Cheri Mello]

Yay!

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> Wow, I figured this out!
>
> Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child,
> Jose p, was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November
>  1777.  (Feeling like a detective here)
>
>
> Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo,
> Bartholomeu de Andrade
>
> The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>
> TOP LEFT
>
> I'm seeing:
>
> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio
> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos
>  de Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism
> of Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an
> exposto.  So I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-
> 1779_item1/P100.html
>
> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Maria Lima]

Wow, I figured this out!  

Anna do Rosario was expecting when Antonio Francisco died.  The child, Jose p, 
was born in March 1777 and she married Bartholomeu in November  1777.  (Feeling 
like a detective here) 


Jose, son of Anna do Rosario, viúva de António Francisco y de su esposo, 
Bartholomeu de Andrade

The  abbreviation for "vieuva" always gets me.  Thanks.  

Maria Elena 

> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
> 
> TOP LEFT 
> 
> I'm seeing:
> 
> Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio 
> Francisco and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos  de 
> Mello, deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
> .. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism of 
> Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an exposto.  So 
> I can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P100.html
> 
> Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Cheri Mello]

Do NOT put on horse blinders...You have to look around and collect the
whole set! You may find the answer you were seeking by looking at another
relative or relation.

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 6:17 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Yes, what Rosemarie says is so true!  It appears that often the books were
> copied over at certain times. So look at all copies of the books as you
> never know what you will find. In one book, the secretary, or whoever made
> the entry may only give an island….but in another there may be more
> information, a village possibly!  Through these books, you can see life
> events for some members….they marry, their wives may pass away, and these
> changes will be reflected in the beneficiaries. So good advice from
> Rosemarie…..read though all the pages of your council…you will find
> brothers, fathers etc…..just don’t zero in on the one person that you are
> looking for.
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
> Don't forget that if there are more than one book for a Councelho to check
> out the oldest book. Often the men who joined were single when they joined.
> They gave their Mother as beneficiary and then when they married they
> changed it to their wife's name. Often the older book has the name and the
> place in the Islands where Mother lived!!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:58 AM, 'looking4roots' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kathy and Susan,
>>
>> What a treasure to have at our finger tips!!!
>>
>> Kathy, you were kind enough to look up my great uncle's info years ago.
>> That opened a few doors. Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> For some time, I have been looking for more info on my paternal great
>> uncles.  I will need to do a bit more investigating, but I think I
>> discovered my 2nd great grandmother's name, as well as my great uncle's
>> wife, in the Pleasanton records.  I am so excited.  More paths to follow!
>>
>> Thanks for your time and efforts on everyone's behalf.
>>
>> Deb
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>>
>> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally
>> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family
>> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records
>> I have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records
>> into my Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:
>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---
>> l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
>>
>> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records.
>> You can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or
>> to your computer.
>>
>> Good luck and happy hunting!
>>
>> Kathy Cardoza
>> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>
>> Climb my Family Tree:
>> http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php
>> ~~~
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Yes, what Rosemarie says is so true!  It appears that often the books were 
copied over at certain times. So look at all copies of the books as you never 
know what you will find. In one book, the secretary, or whoever made the entry 
may only give an island….but in another there may be more information, a 
village possibly!  Through these books, you can see life events for some 
members….they marry, their wives may pass away, and these changes will be 
reflected in the beneficiaries. So good advice from Rosemarie…..read though all 
the pages of your council…you will find brothers, fathers etc…..just don’t zero 
in on the one person that you are looking for. 

Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Oct 9, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Don't forget that if there are more than one book for a Councelho to check 
> out the oldest book. Often the men who joined were single when they joined. 
> They gave their Mother as beneficiary and then when they married they changed 
> it to their wife's name. Often the older book has the name and the place in 
> the Islands where Mother lived!! 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:58 AM, 'looking4roots' via Azores Genealogy 
> > wrote:
> Hi Kathy and Susan, 
> 
> What a treasure to have at our finger tips!!!
> 
> Kathy, you were kind enough to look up my great uncle's info years ago.  That 
> opened a few doors. Thanks again for your help.
> 
> For some time, I have been looking for more info on my paternal great uncles. 
>  I will need to do a bit more investigating, but I think I discovered my 2nd 
> great grandmother's name, as well as my great uncle's wife, in the Pleasanton 
> records.  I am so excited.  More paths to follow!
> 
> Thanks for your time and efforts on everyone's behalf.
> 
> Deb
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kathy Cardoza  > wrote:
> 
>> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally 
>> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family 
>> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records 
>> I have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records into 
>> my Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:  
>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records. You 
>> can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or to 
>> your computer.
>> 
>> Good luck and happy hunting!
>> 
>> Kathy Cardoza
>> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>  http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html 
>> 
>> 
>> Climb my Family Tree:
>>  http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php 
>> 
>> ~~~
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

[Maria Lima]

TOP LEFT 

I'm seeing:

Jose, filho de Anna de Rosa ... weird couple of letters...de Antonio Francisco 
and his exposto (???), Bartholomeu de Andrade, son of Domingos  de Mello, 
deceased, and his wife Antonia Pereira
.. I got the rest but confused in the relationships.  I have the baptism of 
Bartholomeu who's father was Domingos de Mello and he wasn't an exposto.  So I 
can't imagine what this says.  HELP??!!  

Thanks


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P100.html

Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese language (continental or European)

[Tish M]

Best lesson of the day. Thank you.
Tish

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I did lesson 1 with the 5000 words. Knowing English grammar helps (the
> suffix tion in English = ção in Portuguese). Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH TRANSLATION

[Cheri Mello]

Born on 18 April 1887 - Umm, you were searching the 1887 book :)
Baptism was on the top line. 20 April.

Dad- carpinteiro (modern spelling) = carpenter. Rest is right.
Mom correct.
Godparents correct.
Margin 1 correct.
Margin 2 Marianno Jose died. Not sure of date.
Margin 3 Maria died.


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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 1:14 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P181.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P182.html
>
> #54 maria
>
> april 21, 1887 ??
>
> father - antonio joaquim - what is his occupation? born in sao jose - son
> of unknown parents
>
> mother - carlota de jesus - daughter of jose de andrade and maria da
> estrella
>
> godparents - antonio jose da costa and maria da gloria
>
> having trouble with the side notes
>
> married marianno jose july 25, 1910
>
> can't make out what the next group is about - 1935 1958 ??
>
> next group - july 5, 1961 obituary #1977 - july 6, 1961
>
> any help will be greatly appreciated
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BIRTH TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P181.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P182.html

#54 maria

april 21, 1887 ??

father - antonio joaquim - what is his occupation? born in sao jose - son of 
unknown parents

mother - carlota de jesus - daughter of jose de andrade and maria da estrella

godparents - antonio jose da costa and maria da gloria

having trouble with the side notes

married marianno jose july 25, 1910

can't make out what the next group is about - 1935 1958 ??

next group - july 5, 1961 obituary #1977 - july 6, 1961

any help will be greatly appreciated

thank you

carmen







  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese language (continental or European)

[Cheri Mello]

I did lesson 1 with the 5000 words. Knowing English grammar helps (the
suffix tion in English = ção in Portuguese). Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese language (continental or European)

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, Cheri. I was just using Google Translate last night and realized
that there is a 'speaker' feature! When you turn it on and click on the
speaker you will hear the words in Portuguese that you've just had
translated! I wanted to know how to pronounce the surname Carregueiro and
it was great! Now if I can just remember how to say the name, LOL!!


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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I'm not a native speaker, but I've heard enough Portuguese to kinda get
> some of the pronunciation. And to cringe when people mispronounce some
> words.. So if I'm kinda progressing along, you can too.
>
> A cousin sent me this about learning Portuguese. It may be helpful, not
> only for speaking but for recognizing words too.
> https://goo.gl/zl4zgZ
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Don't forget that if there are more than one book for a Councelho to check
out the oldest book. Often the men who joined were single when they joined.
They gave their Mother as beneficiary and then when they married they
changed it to their wife's name. Often the older book has the name and the
place in the Islands where Mother lived!!

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:58 AM, 'looking4roots' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Hi Kathy and Susan,
>
> What a treasure to have at our finger tips!!!
>
> Kathy, you were kind enough to look up my great uncle's info years ago.
> That opened a few doors. Thanks again for your help.
>
> For some time, I have been looking for more info on my paternal great
> uncles.  I will need to do a bit more investigating, but I think I
> discovered my 2nd great grandmother's name, as well as my great uncle's
> wife, in the Pleasanton records.  I am so excited.  More paths to follow!
>
> Thanks for your time and efforts on everyone's behalf.
>
> Deb
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>
> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally
> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family
> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records
> I have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records
> into my Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---
> l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
>
> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records.
> You can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or
> to your computer.
>
> Good luck and happy hunting!
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

['Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy]

What a great job ladies!  Your time, efforts and dedication is admirable!  
Thank you so much!

  From: Kathy Cardoza 
 To: Azores Google Group  
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 6:36 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***
   
For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally 
copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family History 
Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records I have but 
that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records into my Dropbox 
and the links are on this page as shareable files:  
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records. You 
can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or to your 
computer.
Good luck and happy hunting!
Kathy CardozaCoordinator, Azores GenWeb
~~~
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 http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html

Climb my Family Tree:
 http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese language (continental or European)

[Cheri Mello]

I'm not a native speaker, but I've heard enough Portuguese to kinda get
some of the pronunciation. And to cringe when people mispronounce some
words.. So if I'm kinda progressing along, you can too.

A cousin sent me this about learning Portuguese. It may be helpful, not
only for speaking but for recognizing words too.
https://goo.gl/zl4zgZ
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

['looking4roots' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Kathy and Susan, 

What a treasure to have at our finger tips!!!

Kathy, you were kind enough to look up my great uncle's info years ago.  That 
opened a few doors. Thanks again for your help.

For some time, I have been looking for more info on my paternal great uncles.  
I will need to do a bit more investigating, but I think I discovered my 2nd 
great grandmother's name, as well as my great uncle's wife, in the Pleasanton 
records.  I am so excited.  More paths to follow!

Thanks for your time and efforts on everyone's behalf.

Deb

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
> 
> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally 
> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family 
> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records I 
> have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records into my 
> Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:  
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
> 
> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records. You 
> can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or to 
> your computer.
> 
> Good luck and happy hunting!
> 
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>   http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> 
> Climb my Family Tree:
>   http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php
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