Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Returning Home to Azores from US
Jeremy, there are US Passport applications that would cover that time period going out of the US. There are films available from the Family History Library that should have his application since you say he was naturalized. If you can find one for him it should tell you when he was leaving and for what reason. If he left prior to 1925 or so I think that they should be on film. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:57 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C - Researching: Sao Jorge & Pico' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > Hello! > > I have a great uncle who came to this country in 1899 or 1900. I find no > passport on Terceira, nor on Horta, but that's not the issue I'm having. I > know he had a daughter born in 1899 in the Islands to his wife Maria. He > was in California for the 1910 cencus, and I believe he probably went back > home soon thereafter. While he was here, he was naturalized. So he ended > up dying at home in Faja dos Cubres (Ribeira Seca) on Sao Jorge in 1933. > Daughter is still living and had married, and his wife is completely > different so im sure the first wife died. > > I am trying to figure out when he DEPARTED and arrived in the Islands.. a > reverse of the usual. Unfortunately even though I have his departmental > passport number, they (the gov) refuse to service my request for copies > since it was from the late twenties (just a few thousand after what > ancestry has) and apparently just within privacy laws. They told me it > won't be available for some time, and I can't get copies unless I am the > person named on the passport. (Real intellectually since he was born in > 1879 and died over 80 years ago). > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I may find the date he > arrived in the azores? > > If anyone has anything on a Paula Munoz in their databases please let me > know (with such a unique name). She was the second wife who id love to know > of. His name was Antonio Machado Cardoza. The daughter was Maria who > married a man named Costa and moved to the village of Calheta. > > > > Thanks > > Jeremy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Returning Home to Azores from US
Jeremy, There is no emigration OUT of the U.S. I don't believe there's anything going INTO the Azores (you should state Azores as many are researching the Hawaiian islands too). You don't give a date for his American passport. In the U.S. there's film up to 1925 and then you have to write to the passport office for after 1925. You MUST include his death certificate. Here's the information from the Azores GenWeb. I haven't had to write for someone's passport for a long time, so no guarantee the URL will work. It's halfway down, item 5: https://goo.gl/uJMvDh Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:57 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C - Researching: Sao Jorge & Pico' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > Hello! > > I have a great uncle who came to this country in 1899 or 1900. I find no > passport on Terceira, nor on Horta, but that's not the issue I'm having. I > know he had a daughter born in 1899 in the Islands to his wife Maria. He > was in California for the 1910 cencus, and I believe he probably went back > home soon thereafter. While he was here, he was naturalized. So he ended > up dying at home in Faja dos Cubres (Ribeira Seca) on Sao Jorge in 1933. > Daughter is still living and had married, and his wife is completely > different so im sure the first wife died. > > I am trying to figure out when he DEPARTED and arrived in the Islands.. a > reverse of the usual. Unfortunately even though I have his departmental > passport number, they (the gov) refuse to service my request for copies > since it was from the late twenties (just a few thousand after what > ancestry has) and apparently just within privacy laws. They told me it > won't be available for some time, and I can't get copies unless I am the > person named on the passport. (Real intellectually since he was born in > 1879 and died over 80 years ago). > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I may find the date he > arrived in the azores? > > If anyone has anything on a Paula Munoz in their databases please let me > know (with such a unique name). She was the second wife who id love to know > of. His name was Antonio Machado Cardoza. The daughter was Maria who > married a man named Costa and moved to the village of Calheta. > > > > Thanks > > Jeremy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Returning Home to Azores from US
Hello! I have a great uncle who came to this country in 1899 or 1900. I find no passport on Terceira, nor on Horta, but that's not the issue I'm having. I know he had a daughter born in 1899 in the Islands to his wife Maria. He was in California for the 1910 cencus, and I believe he probably went back home soon thereafter. While he was here, he was naturalized. So he ended up dying at home in Faja dos Cubres (Ribeira Seca) on Sao Jorge in 1933. Daughter is still living and had married, and his wife is completely different so im sure the first wife died. I am trying to figure out when he DEPARTED and arrived in the Islands.. a reverse of the usual. Unfortunately even though I have his departmental passport number, they (the gov) refuse to service my request for copies since it was from the late twenties (just a few thousand after what ancestry has) and apparently just within privacy laws. They told me it won't be available for some time, and I can't get copies unless I am the person named on the passport. (Real intellectually since he was born in 1879 and died over 80 years ago). Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I may find the date he arrived in the azores? If anyone has anything on a Paula Munoz in their databases please let me know (with such a unique name). She was the second wife who id love to know of. His name was Antonio Machado Cardoza. The daughter was Maria who married a man named Costa and moved to the village of Calheta. Thanks Jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
If Joaquim was a naturalized US citizen, then I suspect that his wife would
have traveled under his passport, and so she may not show up in the
passport records. But, it's still worth looking through them-- no stone
unturned.
lots of leads-- good luck!
:)
Linda
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:12:39 PM UTC-8, Samantha B wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I know they were both born the in the Azores. We have, very elderly,
> living relatives who confirm this. Anecdotally we also know that Joaquim
> and Maria's families were very unhappy about their marriage and so they
> came to America very soon thereafter. I have Joaquim ("King" as he's now
> called) on the 2010 census here with his wife and children. He dies in
> 1913. I also have the birth certificates etc of his children (all born the
> in the US).
>
> However, yes on the passenger manifest it does say they're US citizens and
> that Joaquim immigrated as a young child (clearly I have a lot of digging
> to do here).
>
> I also now have the DNA link to Joaquim's sister and parents (most likely).
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Cheri Mello > wrote:
>
>> Linda,
>> OK, thanks for explaining how he morphed into Antonio. Yeah, the manifest
>> on Joaquim is the first thing I looked up because I wanted to see what the
>> columns said on the right, but since they were U.S. Citizens, they did not
>> need to say who they were coming to in America. Samantha knows this, as she
>> has stated she has found everything in America and nothing tells her where
>> in the Azores. I guess nothing will state where they are born in the Azores
>> if they are American born. So I don't understand her query.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:45 PM, linda >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Joaquim Benedicto is the husband of Maria Josefa; Antonio is Maria's
>>> father. Joaquim's father is Benedicto Antonio. Who's on first? ;)
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the manifest, so I can't speak to that.
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim
Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted
about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda wrote:
>
> Hi Samantha,
>
> Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to
> verify any information you find in online trees by checking the digital
> records. We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably
> already guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a
> little
> better, but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one
> family-- daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for
> their fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second
> name] is very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both
> named
> Manuel. Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad
>
> You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that
> there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which
> states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible
> to
> check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa
> and
> that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late
> September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year
> were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this
> record:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html
>
> That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It
> seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's
> grandmother. :D
>
> You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be
> the conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US.
>
> Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and
> persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to
> the
> 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even
> farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided
> a
> link to. I'd also suggest that you try tra
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Hi all
I know they were both born the in the Azores. We have, very elderly, living
relatives who confirm this. Anecdotally we also know that Joaquim and
Maria's families were very unhappy about their marriage and so they came to
America very soon thereafter. I have Joaquim ("King" as he's now called) on
the 2010 census here with his wife and children. He dies in 1913. I also
have the birth certificates etc of his children (all born the in the US).
However, yes on the passenger manifest it does say they're US citizens and
that Joaquim immigrated as a young child (clearly I have a lot of digging
to do here).
I also now have the DNA link to Joaquim's sister and parents (most likely).
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Linda,
> OK, thanks for explaining how he morphed into Antonio. Yeah, the manifest
> on Joaquim is the first thing I looked up because I wanted to see what the
> columns said on the right, but since they were U.S. Citizens, they did not
> need to say who they were coming to in America. Samantha knows this, as she
> has stated she has found everything in America and nothing tells her where
> in the Azores. I guess nothing will state where they are born in the Azores
> if they are American born. So I don't understand her query.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:45 PM, linda wrote:
>
>>
>> Joaquim Benedicto is the husband of Maria Josefa; Antonio is Maria's
>> father. Joaquim's father is Benedicto Antonio. Who's on first? ;)
>>
>> I haven't seen the manifest, so I can't speak to that.
>>
>> L.
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim
>>> Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted
>>> about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda wrote:
>>>
Hi Samantha,
Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to
verify any information you find in online trees by checking the digital
records. We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably
already guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little
better, but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one
family-- daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for
their fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second
name] is very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named
Manuel. Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad
You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that
there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which
states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to
check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and
that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late
September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year
were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html
That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It
seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's
grandmother. :D
You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be
the conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US.
Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and
persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the
18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even
farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a
link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and
baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the
key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once
you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible).
If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should
know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere.
I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it
pretty quickly. For the island
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Ugh! S annoying Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:09 PM, linda wrote: > Thanks! > > Using Chrome, I observed the "Submit" button change to "Sent" after > clicking. However, if I exited and then returned to the page, the "Submit" > button would reappear, and there was no indication that the coupon wasn't > available to me to use. In fact, if you received 4 coupons, then it's > possible to gift coupons more often than once from an account. Most likely > not, but... > > Linda > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:41:19 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Linda, Yes, they were received. After you send the coupons, the page just >> sits there and stares at you. Annoying! Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:32 PM, linda wrote: >> >>> Hi Cheri, >>> >>> I've just attempted to send three coupons to you. All three should be >>> via last name "Meneses". I'm also unclear as to whether my attempts were >>> successful and would appreciate it if you could confirm or deny receipt. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:14:27 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) Guess I'm not being clear. So I will try again with the directions: For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the NAME of the kit holder, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com Thanks for everyone's coupons! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) > > To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the > KIT NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward > coupon. If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone > else, Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to > check it. > > If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose > kit it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for > the Bonus coupon. > > In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the > Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please > click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to > me > at gfscherim at gmail.com > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira > Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) >> >> Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! >> >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to >> me >> at gfscherim at gmail.com >> >> For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than >> they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let >> me know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. >> >> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> > > -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Thanks! Using Chrome, I observed the "Submit" button change to "Sent" after clicking. However, if I exited and then returned to the page, the "Submit" button would reappear, and there was no indication that the coupon wasn't available to me to use. In fact, if you received 4 coupons, then it's possible to gift coupons more often than once from an account. Most likely not, but... Linda On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:41:19 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Linda, Yes, they were received. After you send the coupons, the page just > sits there and stares at you. Annoying! Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:32 PM, linda > > wrote: > >> Hi Cheri, >> >> I've just attempted to send three coupons to you. All three should be >> via last name "Meneses". I'm also unclear as to whether my attempts were >> successful and would appreciate it if you could confirm or deny receipt. >> >> thanks! >> >> Linda >> >> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:14:27 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) >>> >>> Guess I'm not being clear. So I will try again with the directions: >>> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >>> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >>> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the NAME of the kit holder, and >>> forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com >>> Thanks for everyone's coupons! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose kit it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for the Bonus coupon. In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) > > Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the > Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please > click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to > me > at gfscherim at gmail.com > > For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than > they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me > know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. > > Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira > Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Linda, OK, thanks for explaining how he morphed into Antonio. Yeah, the manifest on Joaquim is the first thing I looked up because I wanted to see what the columns said on the right, but since they were U.S. Citizens, they did not need to say who they were coming to in America. Samantha knows this, as she has stated she has found everything in America and nothing tells her where in the Azores. I guess nothing will state where they are born in the Azores if they are American born. So I don't understand her query. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:45 PM, linda wrote: > > Joaquim Benedicto is the husband of Maria Josefa; Antonio is Maria's > father. Joaquim's father is Benedicto Antonio. Who's on first? ;) > > I haven't seen the manifest, so I can't speak to that. > > L. > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim >> Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted >> about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Samantha, >>> >>> Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to >>> verify any information you find in online trees by checking the digital >>> records. We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably >>> already guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little >>> better, but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one >>> family-- daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for >>> their fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second >>> name] is very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named >>> Manuel. Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad >>> >>> You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that >>> there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which >>> states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to >>> check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and >>> that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late >>> September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year >>> were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record: >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH- >>> SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH- >>> SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html >>> >>> That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It >>> seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's >>> grandmother. :D >>> >>> You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be the >>> conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US. >>> >>> Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and >>> persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the >>> 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even >>> farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a >>> link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and >>> baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the >>> key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once >>> you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible). >>> If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should >>> know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere. >>> I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it >>> pretty quickly. For the island of Pico, there's another handy resource, >>> the CITCEM database. It's clunky to use, riddled with errors, and has a >>> bit of a learning curve... but when it works, it's wonderful :D I believe >>> the link is in the resources too. >>> >>> best of luck in your research! >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:32:20 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: Hi Samantha, I'm glad that you are excited, and that I could help. You're welcome. However, Please, Please, Please, remember that you should try to find the passport information or other information that will confirm that this record is correct. You would not want to trace this record and find out later that this information is not correct. As Linda pointed out you should look in the pass
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Oh! I see the problem. I made an error in my note to Samantha in which I stated that Maria Josefa was married to "Antonio" where I should have said "Joaquim". Ooops! :D L. On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:45:41 PM UTC-8, linda wrote: > > > Joaquim Benedicto is the husband of Maria Josefa; Antonio is Maria's > father. Joaquim's father is Benedicto Antonio. Who's on first? ;) > > I haven't seen the manifest, so I can't speak to that. > > L. > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim >> Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted >> about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Samantha, >>> >>> Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to >>> verify any information you find in online trees by checking the digital >>> records. We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably >>> already guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little >>> better, but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one >>> family-- daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for >>> their fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second >>> name] is very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named >>> Manuel. Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad >>> >>> You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that >>> there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which >>> states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to >>> check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and >>> that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late >>> September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year >>> were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html >>> >>> That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It >>> seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's >>> grandmother. :D >>> >>> You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be the >>> conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US. >>> >>> Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and >>> persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the >>> 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even >>> farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a >>> link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and >>> baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the >>> key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once >>> you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible). >>> If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should >>> know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere. >>> I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it >>> pretty quickly. For the island of Pico, there's another handy resource, >>> the CITCEM database. It's clunky to use, riddled with errors, and has a >>> bit of a learning curve... but when it works, it's wonderful :D I believe >>> the link is in the resources too. >>> >>> best of luck in your research! >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:32:20 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: Hi Samantha, I'm glad that you are excited, and that I could help. You're welcome. However, Please, Please, Please, remember that you should try to find the passport information or other information that will confirm that this record is correct. You would not want to trace this record and find out later that this information is not correct. As Linda pointed out you should look in the passports from Angra. I don't know if you can read the records, so It would also be great if others would check my translation for you. Thank you. Benedicto is the first name and Antonio is the last according to this record. Do not transpose the names. Correct, women are usually not documented with a last name. They are usually the daughter of, wife of, or
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Joaquim Benedicto is the husband of Maria Josefa; Antonio is Maria's father. Joaquim's father is Benedicto Antonio. Who's on first? ;) I haven't seen the manifest, so I can't speak to that. L. On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:35:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim > Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted > about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda > > wrote: > >> >> Hi Samantha, >> >> Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to verify >> any information you find in online trees by checking the digital records. >> We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably already >> guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little better, >> but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one family-- >> daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for their >> fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second name] is >> very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named Manuel. >> Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad >> >> You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that >> there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which >> states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to >> check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and >> that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late >> September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year >> were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html >> >> That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It >> seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's >> grandmother. :D >> >> You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be the >> conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US. >> >> Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and >> persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the >> 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even >> farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a >> link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and >> baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the >> key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once >> you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible). >> If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should >> know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere. >> I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it >> pretty quickly. For the island of Pico, there's another handy resource, >> the CITCEM database. It's clunky to use, riddled with errors, and has a >> bit of a learning curve... but when it works, it's wonderful :D I believe >> the link is in the resources too. >> >> best of luck in your research! >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:32:20 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: >>> >>> Hi Samantha, >>> >>> I'm glad that you are excited, and that I could help. You're welcome. >>> However, Please, Please, Please, remember that you should try to find the >>> passport information or other information that will confirm that this >>> record is correct. You would not want to trace this record and find out >>> later that this information is not correct. As Linda pointed out you >>> should look in the passports from Angra. I don't know if you can read the >>> records, so It would also be great if others would check my translation for >>> you. Thank you. >>> >>> Benedicto is the first name and Antonio is the last according to this >>> record. Do not transpose the names. >>> >>> Correct, women are usually not documented with a last name. They are >>> usually the daughter of, wife of, or widow of; but you can actually find on >>> occasion that a record will show a last name. >>> >>> As Cheri posted: There's a whole list of how-to on the Azores GenWeb >>> here: https://goo.gl/xYgVpZ This is a wonderful site filled with >>> important information for anyone searching for their Portuguese ancestors. >>> Just ask and their is always
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Hi Samantha, Some suggestions re more US searching. Fellow group members have found promising leads for you. You can now try to fact check via US resources to see if the data corresponds with/supports these new findings. *On the Passenger List, go to the far right column and see if there is information about the destination, which could include more family members. My grandmother’s info said they were going to stay with her mother’s sister, gave the name and street address. *Check the US Censuses for more clues. 1910 included M1 (or 2, etc) and #yrs married; when to US and the status (Al, Pa, Na), #children b/living (could verify the known births and/or hint at additional children who d young); 1920 asks yr immigrated/status; 1930 asks age at 1st marriage, yr immigrated/status. *WWI Draft Registration would have age, birthdate *WWII Draft Registration includes age, place of birth *Naturalization Papers (Petition and Declaration of Intention) can be verrry helpful. My grandfather’s 1926 papers listed my grandmother and all of their living children/ages as well as his birth location. My grandmother’s 1942 papers gave details of my grandfather (birth date, place; his arrival information and date of naturalization). Also names of all of her children, with their birthdates and where they were living in 1942; her exact birth location in the Azores, where she sailed from, where/when she arrived. *Explore birth, marriage, death records in the US for additional information. Perhaps more challenging is finding US baptismal records. *Try newspaper searches. Some are on ancestry.com, newspapers.com, genealogybank.com . The different sites have different area papers. *Try searches for the maybe cousin in the US. Happy Searching, Marsha Stringer strin...@mstringer.net -- *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Samantha B *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2016 12:17 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family) Hi Roselyn Would you mind please also linking the URLs to the documents? I've been unable to find them online. Many thanks Samantha On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:06:28 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: Dear Samantha: I believe the attached Santa Luzia, Casamento records from the island of Terceira may be the couple you are looking for: Joaquim Benedicto and Maria Josefa. According to the record: They were married on 2 February 1906 in Santa Luzia. He is 30 years old from Fontinhas of Terceira living in Santa Luzia. He is the legitimate son of Benedicto Antonio native of Altares and Maria Delfina native of Nossa Senhora da Piedade of Pico. She is 20 years old native of Santa Lusia. She is the legitimate daughter of Antonio Goncalves Leostinho and Maria Theodora from Santa Luzia (Fontinhas - Nossa Senhora da Pena, island of Terceira) I hope this is the couple you are looking for. Good Luck Roselyn Hughes On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci > wrote: Samantha--Sorry it's Benedito (left out and 'e'!). Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Samantha B > wrote: Hi Becky and Cheri I'm looking for Joachim Benedicto Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) about 1876 Died in Sacremento on 1/21/1913 and his wife Maria Josephine Lestinho Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) 10/6/1886 Died in Sacramento on 4/3/1960 They were already married when they left the Azores to travel to America. They sailed from "St Michaels: on 3/19/1906 on the SS Brooklyn. There were no other family members with them on the ship that I can see. All of their children were born in the US. I've started going through the March 1906 passport records for Ponta Delgada hoping to find their names. I'll go forward a bit and look at the whole of March for that year and back to the start of the year. Joachim may also have had a cousin Maria Correa (Coria, Corea, Cory) who also came to the US about the same time. She was born in the Azores on 12/23/1896. Regards Samantha On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:59:38 PM UTC-8, Becky M. wrote: Samantha, If you share his name and or the relatives names, someone in this group may already have information on them. Happens all the time! On Dec 4, 2016 2:37 PM, "Samantha B" wrote: Hi all I'm building my husband's family tree on ancestry.com. His maternal grand parents arrived in the US from the Azores in 1908. I have the ship name and passenger list from Ellis Island but I'm struggling to work out how to get more information about them from the Azores. Currently I'm slowly looking through the passports but I don't even know how long before sailing they would have registered for passports.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Linda, Yes, they were received. After you send the coupons, the page just sits there and stares at you. Annoying! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:32 PM, linda wrote: > Hi Cheri, > > I've just attempted to send three coupons to you. All three should be via > last name "Meneses". I'm also unclear as to whether my attempts were > successful and would appreciate it if you could confirm or deny receipt. > > thanks! > > Linda > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:14:27 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) >> >> Guess I'm not being clear. So I will try again with the directions: >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the NAME of the kit holder, and >> forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com >> Thanks for everyone's coupons! >> >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) >>> >>> To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the >>> KIT NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward >>> coupon. If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone >>> else, Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to >>> check it. >>> >>> If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose >>> kit it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for >>> the Bonus coupon. >>> >>> In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! >>> >>> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >>> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >>> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me >>> at gfscherim at gmail.com >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Evening Rose Thanks for the links and the way to get to them. I was searching tombo.pt but in all the wrong places (I am such a noob). I will definitely continue searching for their passport documents too. :) Can I ask how you found them so quickly. It really was just minutes from me posting it seems. You're (all) full of wonderful magic here. I do have amazing news. I've also been speaking to a person at ancestry who is a DNA match with my husband. Once I showed her the marriage information she identified the common ancestor from her tree (Joaquim's sister, of whom I knew nothing). She has all of the the documentation for Joaquim's parents. I am soo excited and I could not have found this without you here. Thank you hugely!!! Samantha On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:12:32 AM UTC-8, Rose wrote: > > Good morning Samantha, > > These are the urls > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911_item1/P146.html > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911_item1/P147.html > > You can find all the records that are available at this site: > http://tombo.pt/ To find these records without the urls you would use: > region = Azores island = Terceira municipality = Angra do Heroismo civil > parish = Angra (Santa Luzia) series = baptismos or casamentos, obitos or > reconhecimentos > > You're welcome. Happy Hunting > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Samantha B > wrote: > >> Hi Roselyn >> >> Would you mind please also linking the URLs to the documents? I've been >> unable to find them online. >> >> Many thanks >> Samantha >> >> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:06:28 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: >>> >>> Dear Samantha: >>> >>> I believe the attached Santa Luzia, Casamento records from the island >>> of Terceira may be the couple you are looking for: Joaquim Benedicto and >>> Maria Josefa. According to the record: >>> >>> They were married on 2 February 1906 in Santa Luzia. >>> He is 30 years old from Fontinhas of Terceira living in Santa Luzia. >>> He is the legitimate son of Benedicto Antonio native of Altares and >>> Maria Delfina native of Nossa Senhora da Piedade of Pico. >>> >>> She is 20 years old native of Santa Lusia. >>> She is the legitimate daughter of Antonio Goncalves Leostinho and Maria >>> Theodora from Santa Luzia >>> >>> >>> (Fontinhas - Nossa Senhora da Pena, island of Terceira) >>> >>> I hope this is the couple you are looking for. Good Luck >>> >>> Roselyn Hughes >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >>> wrote: >>> Samantha--Sorry it's Benedito (left out and 'e'!). Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Samantha B wrote: > Hi Becky and Cheri > > I'm looking for > > Joachim Benedicto > Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) about 1876 > Died in Sacremento on 1/21/1913 > > and his wife > Maria Josephine Lestinho > Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) 10/6/1886 > Died in Sacramento on 4/3/1960 > > They were already married when they left the Azores to travel to > America. They sailed from "St Michaels: on 3/19/1906 on the SS Brooklyn. > There were no other family members with them on the ship that I can see. > All of their children were born in the US. > > I've started going through the March 1906 passport records for Ponta > Delgada hoping to find their names. I'll go forward a bit and look at the > whole of March for that year and back to the start of the year. > > Joachim may also have had a cousin Maria Correa (Coria, Corea, Cory) > who also came to the US about the same time. She was born in the Azores > on > 12/23/1896. > > Regards > Samantha > > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:59:38 PM UTC-8, Becky M. wrote: >> >> Samantha, >> If you share his name and or the relatives names, someone in this >> group may already have information on them. Happens all the time! >> >> On Dec 4, 2016 2:37 PM, "Samantha B" wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I'm building my husband's family tree on ancestry.com. His maternal >>> grand parents arrived in the US from the Azores in 1908. I have the >>> ship >>> name and passenger list from Ellis Island but I'm struggling to work >>> out >>> how to get more information about them from the Azores. >>> >>> Currently I'm slowly looking through the passports but I don't even >>> know how long before sailing they would have registered for passports. >>> I've >>> also joined http://www.portugueseancestry.com/ as it seems one of >>> the fami
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
I haven't followed this thread in its entirety, but how did Joaquim Benedicto morph into Antonio? The original couple that Samantha posted about are U.S. Citizens. Or so says the American manifest. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM, linda wrote: > > Hi Samantha, > > Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to verify > any information you find in online trees by checking the digital records. > We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably already > guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little better, > but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one family-- > daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for their > fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second name] is > very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named Manuel. > Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad > > You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that there's > a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which states that > she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to check the > Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and that of > the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late September > through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year were likely > matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER- > AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER- > AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html > > That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It > seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's > grandmother. :D > > You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be the > conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US. > > Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and > persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the > 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even > farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a > link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and > baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the > key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once > you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible). > If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should > know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere. > I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it > pretty quickly. For the island of Pico, there's another handy resource, > the CITCEM database. It's clunky to use, riddled with errors, and has a > bit of a learning curve... but when it works, it's wonderful :D I believe > the link is in the resources too. > > best of luck in your research! > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:32:20 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: >> >> Hi Samantha, >> >> I'm glad that you are excited, and that I could help. You're welcome. >> However, Please, Please, Please, remember that you should try to find the >> passport information or other information that will confirm that this >> record is correct. You would not want to trace this record and find out >> later that this information is not correct. As Linda pointed out you >> should look in the passports from Angra. I don't know if you can read the >> records, so It would also be great if others would check my translation for >> you. Thank you. >> >> Benedicto is the first name and Antonio is the last according to this >> record. Do not transpose the names. >> >> Correct, women are usually not documented with a last name. They are >> usually the daughter of, wife of, or widow of; but you can actually find on >> occasion that a record will show a last name. >> >> As Cheri posted: There's a whole list of how-to on the Azores GenWeb >> here: https://goo.gl/xYgVpZ This is a wonderful site filled with >> important information for anyone searching for their Portuguese ancestors. >> Just ask and their is always someone on the list that will help if you have >> a question. >> >> Best Regards, Roselyn >> >> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Samantha B wrote: >> >>> Thank you s much Roselyn. This does indeed look like them. >>> >>> I'm not familiar with naming conventions in these documents. I'm >>> assuming that Joaquim's father is Antonio Benedicto yes? >>> >>> Also, from what I can see women's last names are not generally >>> documented yes? >
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Hi Cheri, I've just attempted to send three coupons to you. All three should be via last name "Meneses". I'm also unclear as to whether my attempts were successful and would appreciate it if you could confirm or deny receipt. thanks! Linda On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:14:27 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) > > Guess I'm not being clear. So I will try again with the directions: > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday > Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the > green SHARE NOW button, put in the NAME of the kit holder, and forward it > to me at gfscherim at gmail.com > Thanks for everyone's coupons! > > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello > wrote: > >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) >> >> To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT >> NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. >> If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, >> Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. >> >> If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose >> kit it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for >> the Bonus coupon. >> >> In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! >> >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me >> at gfscherim at gmail.com >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello > > wrote: >> >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) >>> >>> Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! >>> >>> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >>> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >>> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me >>> at gfscherim at gmail.com >>> >>> For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than >>> they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me >>> know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. >>> >>> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Hi Samantha, Please keep in mind Roselyn's advice, and please also take care to verify any information you find in online trees by checking the digital records. We're so lucky to have these resources, but as you've probably already guessed, last names aren't exactly fixed. First names are a little better, but... well, there are often multiples of the same name in one family-- daughters named for their mothers/grandmothers, sons named for their fathers/grandfathers, and multiple sisters all named Maria [second name] is very common-- I have even seen a case of two brothers both named Manuel. Anyway, online errors abound and the names will drive you mad You posted a birthday for Maria Josefa, October 6, 1886. Now that there's a potential marriage record for Maria Josefa and Antonio which states that she is a native of the parish of Santa Luzia, it's possible to check the Baptisms there to see if the birthdays for your Maria Josefa and that of the Maria in the records match. I had a look through late September through to the end of 1886, but none of the Marias in that year were likely matches. So, I went back a year to 1885 and found this record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P193.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-B-1880-1885_item1/P194.html That's the baptismal record for the Maria of the marriage record. It seems that she shares the same birthday, October 6, as your husband's grandmother. :D You should try to find the couple's passport records. That would be the conclusive proof that it's the same pair that emigrated to the US. Right, now you've got a wonderful quest ahead of you! With luck and persistence, you'll be able to take your husband's Azorean tree back to the 18th and 17th centuries through the primary records :) and maybe even farther back. Please have a look at the resources that Roselyn provided a link to. I'd also suggest that you try transcribing these marriage and baptismal records and use the word lists in the resources to pick out the key information they contain. The records follow a set format, and once you get familiar with it, it's easy (provided the handwriting is legible). If you post your results, I'll gladly check them for you. Also, you should know that there's a marriage index for Terceira which is online somewhere. I don't have the link for it handy, but a search of the forum should get it pretty quickly. For the island of Pico, there's another handy resource, the CITCEM database. It's clunky to use, riddled with errors, and has a bit of a learning curve... but when it works, it's wonderful :D I believe the link is in the resources too. best of luck in your research! Linda On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:32:20 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: > > Hi Samantha, > > I'm glad that you are excited, and that I could help. You're welcome. > However, Please, Please, Please, remember that you should try to find the > passport information or other information that will confirm that this > record is correct. You would not want to trace this record and find out > later that this information is not correct. As Linda pointed out you > should look in the passports from Angra. I don't know if you can read the > records, so It would also be great if others would check my translation for > you. Thank you. > > Benedicto is the first name and Antonio is the last according to this > record. Do not transpose the names. > > Correct, women are usually not documented with a last name. They are > usually the daughter of, wife of, or widow of; but you can actually find on > occasion that a record will show a last name. > > As Cheri posted: There's a whole list of how-to on the Azores GenWeb > here: https://goo.gl/xYgVpZ This is a wonderful site filled with > important information for anyone searching for their Portuguese ancestors. > Just ask and their is always someone on the list that will help if you have > a question. > > Best Regards, Roselyn > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Samantha B > wrote: > >> Thank you s much Roselyn. This does indeed look like them. >> >> I'm not familiar with naming conventions in these documents. I'm assuming >> that Joaquim's father is Antonio Benedicto yes? >> >> Also, from what I can see women's last names are not generally documented >> yes? >> >> Thank you again :) >> Samantha >> >> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:06:28 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: >>> >>> Dear Samantha: >>> >>> I believe the attached Santa Luzia, Casamento records from the island >>> of Terceira may be the couple you are looking for: Joaquim Benedicto and >>> Maria Josefa. According to the record: >>> >>> They were married on 2 February 1906 in Santa Luzia. >>> He is 30 years old from Fontinhas of Terceira living in Santa Luzia. >
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
Vitoria, born- April 5- 1771, bap- April 11, filha de Francisco de Souza e Quiteria de Medeyros; Pad- Manoel Botelho filho de Antonio Botelho e sua mulher Antonia Furtada and Vitoria da Conceicao filha de Manoel de Souza and Paula Botelha. Almost there. The entries are not always in order. JR On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:03:18 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote: > > thank you jr > > i think this may be her > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P19.html > > > [second page - last entry] > > september 5 1771 ??? > > Carmen > > > > On Mon, 12/5/16, JR > wrote: > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > Date: Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:07 PM > > It turns > out Agua Retorta baptisms go back 1768, so try there. From > now on you are going to have to look in both > churches. > FDT bap- Antonio, > filho de Thome Botelho and Marianna de Medeyros nats e > moradores sitio de Agua Retorta, limite Faial da Terra, > born- June 13- 1764, bap- June 17, Pad- Manoel de Souza e > sua mulher Paula Botelho moradores Agua Retorta (Paula > Botelho is most likely sister of Antonio > Botelho) > JR > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at > 3:15:45 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:http://culturacores.azores. > gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/ > SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P192.html > > http://culturacores.azores. > gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/ > SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P193.html > > > > this is the marriage of António Boteilho + > Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of page and continued next > page] > > > > i found António Boteilho's baptism on > june 13 1764 in faial da terra > > > > http://culturacores.azores. > gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/ > SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764- 1787_item1/P6.html > > > > i'm having a hard time finding Victoria > de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of Francisco de > Souzaand Guiteria de Medeiros > > > > i couldn't find any of victoria's > siblings either > > > > am i searching in the correct book? > > > > thanks > > > > Carmen > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
thank you jr i think this may be her http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P19.html [second page - last entry] september 5 1771 ??? Carmen On Mon, 12/5/16, JR wrote: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Monday, December 5, 2016, 4:07 PM It turns out Agua Retorta baptisms go back 1768, so try there. From now on you are going to have to look in both churches. FDT bap- Antonio, filho de Thome Botelho and Marianna de Medeyros nats e moradores sitio de Agua Retorta, limite Faial da Terra, born- June 13- 1764, bap- June 17, Pad- Manoel de Souza e sua mulher Paula Botelho moradores Agua Retorta (Paula Botelho is most likely sister of Antonio Botelho) JR On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 3:15:45 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/ SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P192.html http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/ SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756- 1800_item1/P193.html this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of page and continued next page] i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/ SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764- 1787_item1/P6.html i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of Francisco de Souzaand Guiteria de Medeiros i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either am i searching in the correct book? thanks Carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
According to the marriage record Victoria is from Agua Retorto as is her parents. I would look for the marriage of her parents in Agua Retorto and then look for her baptism after I found the parents' marriage in the same place. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 3:16 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of page and continued next page] i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of Francisco de Souza and Guiteria de Medeiros i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either am i searching in the correct book? thanks Carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) Guess I'm not being clear. So I will try again with the directions: For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the NAME of the kit holder, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com Thanks for everyone's coupons! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) > > To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT > NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. > If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, > Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. > > If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose kit > it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for the > Bonus coupon. > > In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday > Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the > green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at > gfscherim at gmail.com > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) >> >> Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! >> >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me >> at gfscherim at gmail.com >> >> For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than >> they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me >> know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. >> >> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
It turns out Agua Retorta baptisms go back 1768, so try there. From now on you are going to have to look in both churches. FDT bap- Antonio, filho de Thome Botelho and Marianna de Medeyros nats e moradores sitio de Agua Retorta, limite Faial da Terra, born- June 13- 1764, bap- June 17, Pad- Manoel de Souza e sua mulher Paula Botelho moradores Agua Retorta (Paula Botelho is most likely sister of Antonio Botelho) JR On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 3:15:45 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html > > > this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom > of page and continued next page] > > i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html > > > i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of > Francisco de Souzaand Guiteria de Medeiros > > i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either > > am i searching in the correct book? > > thanks > > Carmen > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of page and continued next page] i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of Francisco de Souza and Guiteria de Medeiros i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either am i searching in the correct book? thanks Carmen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Hi Susan, No I don't see one from Emanuel Vargas. After you forward the coupon, the page sits there and stares at you. It doesn't go to another page :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi Cheri, > I have tried a couple of times to email you coupons but it looks like it > doesn't workmaybe it is but it doesn't go to another page etc when you > click submit. Will you tell me if you get one from Emanuel Vargas, my > brother's kit? And if so I will go through my accounts. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) > > To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT > NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. > If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, > Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. > > If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose kit > it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for the > Bonus coupon. > > In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday > Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the > green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at > gfscherim at gmail.com > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) >> >> Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! >> >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the >> Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please >> click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me >> at gfscherim at gmail.com >> >> For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than >> they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me >> know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. >> >> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
Hi Cheri, I have tried a couple of times to email you coupons but it looks like it doesn't workmaybe it is but it doesn't go to another page etc when you click submit. Will you tell me if you get one from Emanuel Vargas, my brother's kit? And if so I will go through my accounts. Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) > > To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT > NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. > If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, > Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. > > If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose kit it > is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for the Bonus > coupon. > > In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday > Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the > green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at > gfscherim at gmail.com > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) >> >> Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! >> >> For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday >> Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the >> green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at >> gfscherim at gmail.com >> >> For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than they >> received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me know if you >> are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. >> >> Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes) To Whomever is sending me the coupons (Thanks), but please put in the KIT NAME, not my name. If your coupon gets used, you get a Bonus Reward coupon. If Rosemarie Capodicci sent me her coupon and I give it to someone else, Rosemarie will have a bonus coupon. I can email her and ask her to check it. If the coupon is coming from "Cheri Mello" I really have no idea whose kit it is. If I give it away, great, but I don't know who to contact for the Bonus coupon. In case anyone missed it, here are the instructions again. Thanks! For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) > > Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! > > For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday > Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the > green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at > gfscherim at gmail.com > > For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than they > received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me know if > you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. > > Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)
Good morning Samantha, These are the urls http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911_item1/P146.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911/TER-AH-SANTALUZIA-C-1896-1911_item1/P147.html You can find all the records that are available at this site: http://tombo.pt/ To find these records without the urls you would use: region = Azores island = Terceira municipality = Angra do Heroismo civil parish = Angra (Santa Luzia) series = baptismos or casamentos, obitos or reconhecimentos You're welcome. Happy Hunting On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Samantha B wrote: > Hi Roselyn > > Would you mind please also linking the URLs to the documents? I've been > unable to find them online. > > Many thanks > Samantha > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:06:28 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote: >> >> Dear Samantha: >> >> I believe the attached Santa Luzia, Casamento records from the island of >> Terceira may be the couple you are looking for: Joaquim Benedicto and >> Maria Josefa. According to the record: >> >> They were married on 2 February 1906 in Santa Luzia. >> He is 30 years old from Fontinhas of Terceira living in Santa Luzia. >> He is the legitimate son of Benedicto Antonio native of Altares and Maria >> Delfina native of Nossa Senhora da Piedade of Pico. >> >> She is 20 years old native of Santa Lusia. >> She is the legitimate daughter of Antonio Goncalves Leostinho and Maria >> Theodora from Santa Luzia >> >> >> (Fontinhas - Nossa Senhora da Pena, island of Terceira) >> >> I hope this is the couple you are looking for. Good Luck >> >> Roselyn Hughes >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >> wrote: >> >>> Samantha--Sorry it's Benedito (left out and 'e'!). >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> rcap...@gmail.com >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Samantha B wrote: >>> Hi Becky and Cheri I'm looking for Joachim Benedicto Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) about 1876 Died in Sacremento on 1/21/1913 and his wife Maria Josephine Lestinho Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) 10/6/1886 Died in Sacramento on 4/3/1960 They were already married when they left the Azores to travel to America. They sailed from "St Michaels: on 3/19/1906 on the SS Brooklyn. There were no other family members with them on the ship that I can see. All of their children were born in the US. I've started going through the March 1906 passport records for Ponta Delgada hoping to find their names. I'll go forward a bit and look at the whole of March for that year and back to the start of the year. Joachim may also have had a cousin Maria Correa (Coria, Corea, Cory) who also came to the US about the same time. She was born in the Azores on 12/23/1896. Regards Samantha On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:59:38 PM UTC-8, Becky M. wrote: > > Samantha, > If you share his name and or the relatives names, someone in this > group may already have information on them. Happens all the time! > > On Dec 4, 2016 2:37 PM, "Samantha B" wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I'm building my husband's family tree on ancestry.com. His maternal >> grand parents arrived in the US from the Azores in 1908. I have the ship >> name and passenger list from Ellis Island but I'm struggling to work out >> how to get more information about them from the Azores. >> >> Currently I'm slowly looking through the passports but I don't even >> know how long before sailing they would have registered for passports. >> I've >> also joined http://www.portugueseancestry.com/ as it seems one of >> the family trees there has the surnames involved (just waiting on my >> login >> details atm). >> >> Any other suggestions for research will be most gratefully >> appreciated. All I have are the grandparents birth dates (no specific >> location in the Azores), US arrival ship and date and US death dates. >> We've >> done an ancestry.com DNA test but, it seems, without more >> information I can't really start researching the Azores matches. >> >> Many thanks >> Samantha >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop re
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale - Week 4 - Coupon codes
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes) Week 4 of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s Holiday Sale! For existing members...Please LOG IN to your kit, and click on the Holiday Reward button. If you are not interested in that coupon, please click the green SHARE NOW button, put in the kit name, and forward it to me at gfscherim at gmail.com For those new to DNA testing or those needing a different coupon than they received, email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com and let me know if you are interested in a Y-DNA, mtDNA, or a BigY coupon. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...
Thanks JR! On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR wrote: > bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de > Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de > Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e > (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores > no mesmo termo... > > JR > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote: >> >> In the following record (top of left page)... >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP- >> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html >> >> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father? >> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather? >> >> Here is what I have so far: >> >> Name: Jose >> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860 >> Date of birth: November 2, 1860 >> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves >> Father's Occupation: ? >> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves >> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura >> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves >> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho >> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> George >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...
I see Simplicio Joaquim On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR wrote: > bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de > Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de > Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e > (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores > no mesmo termo... > > JR > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote: >> >> In the following record (top of left page)... >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP- >> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html >> >> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father? >> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather? >> >> Here is what I have so far: >> >> Name: Jose >> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860 >> Date of birth: November 2, 1860 >> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves >> Father's Occupation: ? >> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves >> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura >> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves >> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho >> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> George >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
