[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casamento: Please check my translation of names and help with name of town

[linda]

 Difficult writing!  How about "V.a da Praya" for the town?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Casamento: Please check my translation of names and help with name of town

[Sue Q]

 

Hi, Everyone—


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1755-1789/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1755-1789_item1/P41.html


This record is on the left page. I’m interested in the 12th line down just 
opposite the name Anto Pera da Cunha


Could you please check my translation of the names and let me know if you 
can figure out the name of the town, which I could not.


Antonio Pereira da Cunha son of Antonio da Cunha de Vasconcellos and his 
wife Maria Medina and Guiteria Maria de Jesus, daughter of Manuel 
Vasconcellos and Maria de Jesus of the town of ___ of this mentioned 
island…

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Visit

[Sue Q]

Hi, Ken
  That's wonderful that you're going. I was in Graciosa in 2013 and 
absolutely loved it. It's beautiful and relaxing. I hope to go again this 
summer, as well as to other islands. We flew from Lisbon on TAP and then 
also flew from Graciosa to Faial. One of the most exciting things was to go 
to the Matriz de Santa Cruz da Graciosa and see where so many of my 
ancestors were baptized and married. I have Silvas in my line, mostly from 
the Fontes area of Santa Cruz. I have traced them back to the 1700s and 
would be glad to share any information I have. The names are: Maria Candida 
Pereira da Silva (great-grandmother) and then: José Pereira da Silva and 
wife Maria Candida, Antonio Pereira da Silva and wife Antonia Rosa from 
whom I believe the Silva name originates. Her father was Caetano de Sousa 
da Silva and his wife was Dona Maria do Santo Antonio. I don't know of any 
current relations there but would be glad to share anything else. Sue

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 4:41:43 PM UTC-8, Ken Waters wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I just booked a 2-week open trip to Spain and am hoping to include a swing 
> through the Azores out of Lisbon maybe for about 3 days. I have so many 
> questions, looking for advice from those who may have visited. First of 
> all, it would be wonderful to look up da Silva family on Graciosa. Is there 
> anyone on this list from the island who could maybe help me out? It looks 
> like some of the other islands are more of a magnet for tourists.  Any 
> favorite islands of the group?
>
> Also is TAP out of Lisbon the best way to get there? A quick look found 
> $82 RT fares Lisbon to Terceira.
>
> I have no doubt 3 days is not enough time to enjoy the islands but I do 
> have to balance the time with other sites like Spain, mainland Portugal, 
> and a trip to Morocco.
>
> If any of you know a good contact on Graciosa please let me know. Thanks!
>
> Feel free to direct message me (or to the list if it's germane to others) 
> if you have any suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
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> Blog: familytreeAZ.com
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese

[Sue Q]

Thank you. Very interesting and informative.

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 4:25:06 PM UTC-8, John Machado wrote:
>
>
> In case this has not been shared before, here is a nice Portuguese 
> chronology. 
>
> SOURCE:
>
> A CHRONOLOGY OF THE PORTUGUESE PRESENCE IN CALIFORNIA1 Page 1 
> By Eduardo Mayone Dias, Ph.D., for A presença portuguesa na Califórnia 
> (2002) Translated and updated by Katharine F. Baker for The Portuguese 
> Presence in California (2009) 
>
>
> Link:  
> http://portuguesebooks.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/documents/PHPC-Chronology-English.pdf
>
>
> Good day,
> John Machado
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] crazy

[Cheri Mello]

Sorry, you should notify them.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Are you saying that you just notified them or that I should notify them?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I've seen wrong templates at times. I just notify the CCA that I clicked
> on baptisms for Agua de Pau on Sao Miguel that it says casamentos for Agua
> de Pau. Their email address is drac@azores.gov.pt
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
> wrote:
>
>> So am I going crazy from researching to long?  Does anyone else see that
>> when you click on Baptism for Sao Miguel   Agua de Pau  1885  at the top it
>> says Casamentos
>>
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] crazy

[Liz Migliori]

Are you saying that you just notified them or that I should notify them?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> I've seen wrong templates at times. I just notify the CCA that I clicked on 
> baptisms for Agua de Pau on Sao Miguel that it says casamentos for Agua de 
> Pau. Their email address is drac@azores.gov.pt
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  
>> wrote:
>> So am I going crazy from researching to long?  Does anyone else see that 
>> when you click on Baptism for Sao Miguel   Agua de Pau  1885  at the top it 
>> says Casamentos
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] crazy

[Cheri Mello]

I've seen wrong templates at times. I just notify the CCA that I clicked on
baptisms for Agua de Pau on Sao Miguel that it says casamentos for Agua de
Pau. Their email address is drac@azores.gov.pt

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
wrote:

> So am I going crazy from researching to long?  Does anyone else see that
> when you click on Baptism for Sao Miguel   Agua de Pau  1885  at the top it
> says Casamentos
>
> Liz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

[Sami]

I am looking for any information on *John ENOS (VARGAS)* born abt.1841; 
immigrated either in 1860 or 1868, lived in Concord, Contra Costa County, 
CA and was a farmer; and a woman named *Emma VARGAS*. They were married 
about 1870. I don't know where but I sure wish I did so I could get their 
marriage certificate. They had 14 children; 13 living. I could not find 
them in any census reports prior to the 1900, so I am missing 3 of their 
children. These are the ones I do know:

*Joseph* b. abt. 1873
*Mary L. (DUTRA)* b.1874 d. 1957 of Concord

*Emma (my great-grandmother) *b.12 Jul 1880 d. 30 Sep 1957 in Santa Clara 
*Annie* b. abt. 1882
*Theresa (NUNES)* b.1885 d. 1968 of Concord
*Manuel* b. abt. 1886
*Frank* b. abt. 1887 of Concord
*Angie (MESQUITA)* b.1889 d. 1972 in Hayward
*Aggie (Agnes) (BENZ)* b.1892 d. 1980 
*Evelyn (MCDERMOTT)* b.1897 d.1966 in Marin Co.


There is a story circulating in Ancestry about a John Enos Vargas born in 
1838...but I cannot reconcile the information about this man with my John. 
I lost this couple after the 1910 census, but found a man by the same name 
in the 1920 census living as a lodger in the Clyde Hotel, married, but no 
Emma. Then I found a woman with the same name, married, in another 1920 
census living as an "inmate" in the Napa State Hospital. This could 
possibly explain why they are not together in a census after the 1910. 
There is also a Find A Grave entry on a couple with the same names who died 
in 1923 and 1928, and are buried in St. Stephen's in Concord. They farmed 
for years in Concord, so this too is plausible, but I am not sure if these 
are my John and Emma. Any information anyone has regarding these two will 
be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] crazy

[Elizabeth Migliori]

So am I going crazy from researching to long?  Does anyone else see that
when you click on Baptism for Sao Miguel   Agua de Pau  1885  at the top it
says Casamentos

Liz

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism record - Francisco (Jose da Terra) of Cabo da Praia Terceira 1864

[Evee Silva Kiler]

Thank you all.  Very helpful!!!  EJK


On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 8:41:45 PM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869/TER-PV-CABODAPRAIA-B-1860-1869_item1/P69.html
>
>
> Record 15 in the above URL. 
>
>
> Francisco [Jose da Terra] baptism
>
>
> BIRTH 17 MAY 1864 • Cabo da Praia, Terceira, Azores, Portugal
> DEATH Unknown
>
> Francisco's father is incognito.  He was born 17 May 1864 to Isabel 
> d'Ascencao, soliteira.  
>
> I need help with the *17th & 18th lines*...Specifically, I need help with 
> the materna.   I cannot understand what I see:  it looks like Jose Coelho 
> and then the next word seems to start at the end of the line and finishes 
> on the next line.  I can't tell if it is a third name or not.  The letters 
> just before "e de Catharina Luiza" seem to be "siro"?
>   Padrinhos:  Francisco and Delfina, Solteiros.
>
> And then there is the *margin note* I need help with:
>
>
> I believe I get the gist of it as this:  Francisco was recognized by his 
> father Francisco Jose Terra on the 22nd of July, 1884.  (both son and 
> father have the same name)
>
> Isabel Victorina is named in the margin and so is Isabel d'Ascencao, who 
> is also named in the baptism as the mother of Francisco.  
>
> Then the date of 25 November 1886 is the recorded date?.
>
>
> I am wondering what is being said about the two women.  Is Francisco now 
> married to Isabel Victorina, but Isabel d'Ascencao and Francisco Jose Terra 
> are the parents of Francisco?
>
> I need help with the meaning.
>
>
> Obrigado!!
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gauldencio NAME

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Cheri! What a great suggestion about paying attention to the month!  
I never knew there was a St. Gaudencio, let alone several!

,

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gauldencio NAME

[Cheri Mello]

It's a saint's name. Google "saint gaudencio" and read up on all the St.
Gaudencios. I would pay particular attention to their birth dates and feast
days and cross reference that with your Gaudencio. It won't help you with
your genealogy per se, but it might help as what month your guy may have
been born in. Or not. Maybe someone prayed to St. Gaudencio because he's
the patron saint of ___. Once you know about that, you can save it in
case it comes in handy for a history assignment or something!

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Gaudencio is the proper spelling (no 'L').
> I have also seen Gaudencia's and would be interested in learning of them
> too!
>
> Thanks,
>
> J.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Gauldencio NAME

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Gaudencio is the proper spelling (no 'L').
I have also seen Gaudencia's and would be interested in learning of them too!

Thanks,

J.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Gauldencio NAME

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello,

I am trying to track information on the given name Gauldencio or Gauldencio or 
Gaides as it may aid in my genealogy. If ANYONE has ANY person with this given 
name in their records, regardless of surname, I would be most interested to 
learn of them. It is an exceedingly rare given name, and I am particularly 
interested in any instances of it on Pico! 

Thank you!

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Terra Family From Pico

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Mysterious Terra Family From Pico

Hello! 

I have 3 immigrant ancetors from the Azores, I have been successful in trading 
the lineage of two of them in Sao Jorge. The third, my grandmother, came from 
Pico and is a complete mystery - which is truly unbelivable given the abnormal 
names of her brothers, and the extent of the info we Do have.  Just can't seem 
to find any records on Pico whatsoever for them.

My grandmother's name was Maria Emilia Rosa da Terra. She was born somewhere on 
Pico in or about April/May 1854-1860.  Most records give April 22nd 1855.
, but 1858 is prevelant too.  She came to the United States in the early to mid 
1870s settling in California.

She had two brothers named Augusto Garcia Terra and Gauldencio Garcia Terra. 
Gauldencio married in Massachusetts in 1873, Augusto never married. Both 
brothers had made it to California by 1879 where they were Naturalized in San 
Luis Obispo. They were whalers. 

Our working hypothesis is that they may have originated in the Santa Lucia or 
Bandeiras area.  They were FULL siblings.

The parents were Joao Garcia de Terra and Maria Rosa. NOT Manuel and Maria as 
one record for Gaudencio falsely states.

#) Gauldencio or Gaudencio "Gaides" (various spellings) Garcia Terra was born 
approx. NOVEMBER 1838-1840. He died in 1916 in SLO County CA.

#) Augusto Garcia Terra was born in abt. 1852, and died in 1929 in SLO CA.

#) Maria was born about April 1854-1860 and died in SLO County CA in 1942. Her 
married name was Reis.

We have an extraordinary amount of information, and documentation on them in 
the United States, but nothing from Pico.

If anyone can render ANY assistance, it would be gratefully appreciated.  Also 
if anyone has the name Gauldencio or Gauldencio or Augusto or Joao Garcia Terra 
in their databases I would be interested to know!

Thank you

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Missing Records - Lomba, Flores

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Does anyone know of ANY records for Lomba Flores that cover the period prior to 
1844? I am looking for any information from around 1700-1770! Are there any 
unpublished manuscripts covering the region that anyone knows about? If so I 
would certainly appreciate it!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Another DNA Study: Need to have tested yourself and both parents

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Thank you!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Family in Calheta, Sao Jorge

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The head of the family originated in Lomba Flores, and when they moved to Sao 
Jorge the name Pereira became Flores. Bazaar!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Portuguese

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks so much for posting this! It is extremely interesting to read!

,

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Family in Calheta, Sao Jorge

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Interesting... I will have to check - he sounds farmilliar.  Thank you very 
much!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Machado Velho and Rocha to Brazil died in 1950 in Rio de Janeiro

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Paulo Tomaz, pctomaz64 at gmail.com

Meu trisavô foi Antonio Machado Velho, filho de Antonio Machado Velho e
Maria do Coração de Jesus (ou Maria de Jesus), que emigrou para o Brasil,
onde se casou com a minha trisavó, Bernardina Emília da Rocha. Ele faleceu
em 16 fev 1950, no Rio de Janeiro.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria Silveira Wedding

[Louie Avila]

Yes Rosemarie,

I'm doing much better ... Have my Dads side back to the middle ages in 
Portugal ... Working hard on my Moms side in Sao Jorge.

Louie


On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 6:22:41 PM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote:
>
> You are welcome, Louie! Good luck, you are doing fine, just wanted to you 
> 'fine-tune'!! 
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Louie Avila  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rosemarie,
>> Yes, we talked it ... I'm using Legacy Family.
>> I'll edit me De to de ...
>> Thank you for the reply!
>> Louie
>>
>> On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 9:20:21 AM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote:
>>>
>>> Louie, it says that both of the marrying couple are from Ribeira Seca 
>>> so, look for their baptisms in Ribeira Seca to the parents mentioned. You 
>>> have the parental names correct except you need to start writing them with 
>>> the small 'de' not capital 'de'. It should be written, Manuel de Souza de 
>>> Mattos/Matos. I don't think we talked about which program you are using but 
>>> most allow you to write the given name and first surname as Manuel de Souza 
>>> de on one line then Mattos on the Surname line. When it prints it comes out 
>>> Manuel de Souza de Mattos. 
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I would guidance where the parents of the bride and groom went to 
 Church/Freguesia or location baptized or married.

 Here is the link: *Bottom Left  *Manuel De Sousa De Mattos and Maria 
 Silveira Wedding - 15 Nov 1762


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P26.html

 Grooms parents: Manuel De Costa and Anna De Sousa
 Brides parents: Antonio Simao Machado and Perpetua Maria

 Thanks in advance,
 Louie

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