[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestor went to Bermuda in 1828
There are quite a few Martins Gouveia in Rabo de Peixe. To link up with any specific line you need more specific information. JR On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:50:30 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Repost for no name, ymcmakeupandhair at gmail.com > > My great grandmother went to Bermuda in 1928. Her maiden name was martins > Gouveia also from rabo de peixe. I don't think she had a brother.. but may > he was her cousin > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico History and Portuguese Customs 1825
Margaret Thanks so much for that reference from York University. Fascinating and quite interesting. Gordon Soares Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > > Mike, > > Although this may not address your question, York University, and the > University of Toronto have conducted a studies on the islands you may find > some answers here, have a look. > > http://www.yorku.ca/ccars/files/history/AzoresNineislandsOneHistory.pdf > > Here's a small portion about the island of Pico: > > " The highest percentage ofJewish'lgenes is found in the Central group > ofislands. The settlement of Pico may explain this, for the presence of Jews > in the ilha montanha [mountain island] goes back to 1503.39 This presence > reflects the fact that, in ~496, King Manuel I of Portugal expelled all > Jewish families who had not conVerted to Catholicism. At this time, the > Azores would have been an attractive de~tin1!tion for three reasons: the > archipelago was distant from the mainland; royal authority was virtually > nonexistent, which meant that Jewish exiles could'fuaintain their religion; > and the islands offered the possibility of developing commercial, fmancial > and industrial activities. Such activities did in fact happen, not so much on > Pico, but on Sao Miguel and Terceira." > > Best, > Margaret > >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Mickey Blue >> wrote: >> Cheri, thanks again for your help. You always seem to know the right answer >> or where to look. I have just discovered a couple of books I'm trying to get >> from Amazon on the subject too. As you have mentioned, it seems any big >> social changes happened after or around 1900. I think the world was possibly >> getting new social mores and of course, universal education was changing >> lives and opening new horizons for working people. >> >> I would love to visit one day, but I think that may be a year or two off yet. >> >> If anyone elso has more information I would appreciate all you might know or >> where to find out. Are there Universities which might specalise in studies >> of Azores, history and customs of the early 1800s, does anyone know? >> >> Thank again. >> >> Warm regards >> Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
John M, I cannot duplicate any of the searches that you have listed. Are you a descendant of the child, Mary Agnes Silva, born 1868, or a descendant of Joseph Silva, born 1869? Did you DNA test yet? The Azores project is now large enough to give you at least an island group if not the island. I'd need to know what you have on your whole tree though. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, John Machado wrote: > > I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before > coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was > simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, > 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. > > What I know. > >- Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though >the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. >- Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 >in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. >- Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869 >in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. >- Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address >as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family >photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. >- Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce >shown on death cert and internment records. >- Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary >Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. >- Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA >Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. > > Media > >- 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age >of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >- Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph >Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. >- Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph >Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878 >(City Directory) >- 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary show >as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >- Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9 >days. Same as death cert. >- The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In >handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the >thread below. > > Could not find > >- Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) >- Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no >idea what island they are from. >- What happened to Joseph Silva. >- Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues >- Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a records >search at the Oakland Diocese) >- Other newspaper tidbits except below: > > Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the > few records I could find. > > Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section > that read; > > *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) **deed to > Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may have > changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found a > Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death. > > John Machado > > On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> John M, >> >> Any post over 30 days old is closed. I suggest you just explain again who >> you are looking for and what you have done so far (U.S. Census, >> naturalization, obituaries, etc). In the past 5 years we have several >> hundred new members so it would be good to post again. Someone in the past >> 5 years may have your answer! >> >> I have no clue as to why you are picking Angustius in Horta on Faial >> island. Maybe it's her and maybe it's not. The Azores are 9 islands with >> approximately 165 church parishes to look at. I'm sure I could find another >> Maria born approximately on the date you provide in at least half the >> parishes in the Azores. That would put you on a wild goose chase. >> >> Not knowing what other research you have done, no one can evaluate your >> evidence and give you their thoughts on if it's the correct Maria or not. >> So please explain what research you have done, why you are picking >> Angustias, if you know your Mary/Maria's siblings or parents, etc. >> Thanks, Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:31 PM, John Machado >> wrote: >> >>> I came to the group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
John M, I think I found you in the Azores DNA project. I'll review your matches tonight when I get home. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > John M, > > I cannot duplicate any of the searches that you have listed. > > Are you a descendant of the child, Mary Agnes Silva, born 1868, or a > descendant of Joseph Silva, born 1869? > > Did you DNA test yet? The Azores project is now large enough to give you > at least an island group if not the island. I'd need to know what you have > on your whole tree though. > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, John Machado > wrote: > >> >> I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before >> coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was >> simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, >> 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. >> >> What I know. >> >>- Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though >>the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. >>- Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 >>in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. >>- Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, >>1869 in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. >>- Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address >>as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family >>photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. >>- Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce >>shown on death cert and internment records. >>- Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary >>Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. >>- Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA >>Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. >> >> Media >> >>- 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age >>of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >>- Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph >>Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. >>- Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for >>Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland >>1878 (City Directory) >>- 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary >>show as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >>- Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and >>9 days. Same as death cert. >>- The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In >>handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the >>thread below. >> >> Could not find >> >>- Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) >>- Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no >>idea what island they are from. >>- What happened to Joseph Silva. >>- Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues >>- Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a >>records search at the Oakland Diocese) >>- Other newspaper tidbits except below: >> >> Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the >> few records I could find. >> >> Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section >> that read; >> >> *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) **deed >> to Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may >> have changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found >> a Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death. >> >> John Machado >> >> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> John M, >>> >>> Any post over 30 days old is closed. I suggest you just explain again >>> who you are looking for and what you have done so far (U.S. Census, >>> naturalization, obituaries, etc). In the past 5 years we have several >>> hundred new members so it would be good to post again. Someone in the past >>> 5 years may have your answer! >>> >>> I have no clue as to why you are picking Angustius in Horta on Faial >>> island. Maybe it's her and maybe it's not. The Azores are 9 islands with >>> approximately 165 church parishes to look at. I'm sure I could find another >>> Maria born approximately on the date you provide in at least half the >>> parishes in the Azores. That would put you on a wild goose chase. >>> >>> Not knowing what other research you have done, no one can evaluate your >>> evidence and give you their thoughts on if it's the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestor went to Bermuda in 1828
Are there lists of people traveling from S. Miguel to Bermuda in the 1920's? Cheers Gonçalo On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Repost for no name, ymcmakeupandhair at gmail.com > > My great grandmother went to Bermuda in 1928. Her maiden name was martins > Gouveia also from rabo de peixe. I don't think she had a brother.. but may > he was her cousin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel Sao Braz
New to this sight. It's fantastic. Great grandfather Jose Mello aka Jose Jose Chadinha born about 1867 married Helena Ricarda and immigrated to US around turn o 19th to 20th century. His parents were Manuel Mello and Maria Carlotta. Anyone familiar with names? I'm flying blind! Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestor went to Bermuda in 1828
I have family by the same name from Rabo de Peixe who went to Bermuda around the same time and then retuned to Sāo Miguel in the 1950's. It was my grandmother's brother and his family. -- Joanne Mercier On March 23, 2018 at 12:49:56 AM, Cheri Mello (gfsche...@gmail.com) wrote: > Repost for no name, ymcmakeupandhair at gmail.com > > My great grandmother went to Bermuda in 1928. Her maiden name was martins > Gouveia also from rabo de peixe. I don't think she had a brother.. but may > he was her cousin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestor went to Bermuda in 1828
Gonçalo, You'd just have to compile a list of those bound from the port of Ponta Delgada to Bermuda in the 1920s from the Passaportes here: https://tombo.pt/d/acores They have some missing years in the 1920s. :( Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Gonçalo Marques wrote: > > Are there lists of people traveling from S. Miguel to Bermuda in the > 1920's? > > Cheers > Gonçalo > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Repost for no name, ymcmakeupandhair at gmail.com >> >> My great grandmother went to Bermuda in 1928. Her maiden name was >> martins Gouveia also from rabo de peixe. I don't think she had a brother.. >> but may he was her cousin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel Sao Braz
You need to do U.S. research to narrow down the freguesia (or council) on Sao Miguel. They have almost 70 churches. Looking for a Jose is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I don't know why you are saying Jose Mello went by Jose Achadinha. That's a place on Sao Miguel, although I have seen it listed as a surname. Here's a how-to on getting started: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar Good luck, Cheri Mello Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:59 AM, jfmello via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > New to this sight. It's fantastic. > Great grandfather Jose Mello aka Jose Jose Chadinha born about 1867 > married Helena Ricarda and immigrated to US around turn o 19th to 20th > century. His parents were Manuel Mello and Maria Carlotta. Anyone familiar > with names? I'm flying blind! Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce is a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols. Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with an indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be from? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Machado Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. What I know. * Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. * Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. * Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869 in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. * Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. * Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce shown on death cert and internment records. * Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. * Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. Media * 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) * Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. * Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878 (City Directory) * 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary show as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) * Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9 days. Same as death cert. * The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the thread below. Could not find * Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) * Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no idea what island they are from. * What happened to Joseph Silva. * Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues * Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a records search at the Oakland Diocese) * Other newspaper tidbits except below: Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the few records I could find. Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section that read; Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) deed to Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... She may have changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found a Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death. John Machado -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
I was thinking the same thing...Dyce/Dias. Also what about Nicols/Nicholas?? "E" On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce is > a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da > Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias > die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no > death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols.* > > > > *Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with an > indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be > from? * > > > > > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Epping, NH* > > > > *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *John Machado > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues > > > > > I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before > coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was > simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, > 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. > > > > What I know. > >- Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though >the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. >- Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 >in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. >- Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869 >in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. >- Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address >as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family >photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. >- Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce >shown on death cert and internment records. >- Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary >Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. >- Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA >Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. > > Media > >- 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age >of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >- Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph >Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. >- Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph >Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878 >(City Directory) >- 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary show >as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >- Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9 >days. Same as death cert. >- The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In >handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the >thread below. > > Could not find > >- Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) >- Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no >idea what island they are from. >- What happened to Joseph Silva. >- Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues >- Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a records >search at the Oakland Diocese) >- Other newspaper tidbits except below: > > Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the > few records I could find. > > > > Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section > that read; > > > > *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) deed to > Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may have > changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found a > Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death. > > > > John Machado > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
Threads/posts/messages over 30 days old are closed. Responses to those threads are marked as spam. Please just copy and paste anything important from the previous thread to this one. Thank you, Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, luiznoia . wrote: > John, > > I worked on this back in 2013 with you. I'll go back and comment on that > thread so all discussion can be seen again. > > Meanwhile I found one more news item on Joseph Dyce. This is from 1914, > and he is being transported to Watsonville as an indigent. > > > Eric Edgar > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp wrote: > >> I was thinking the same thing...Dyce/Dias. Also what about >> Nicols/Nicholas?? >> >> "E" >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> *Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce >>> is a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da >>> Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias >>> die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no >>> death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with an >>> indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be >>> from? * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Rick* >>> >>> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >>> >>> *Epping, NH* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and >>> Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >>> Behalf Of *John Machado >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM >>> *To:* Azores Genealogy >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before >>> coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was >>> simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, >>> 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I know. >>> >>>- Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though >>>the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. >>>- Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th >>>1868 in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. >>>- Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, >>>1869 in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. >>>- Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same >>>address as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back >>> of a >>>family photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. >>>- Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce >>>shown on death cert and internment records. >>>- Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary >>>Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. >>>- Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, >>>CA Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. >>> >>> Media >>> >>>- 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. >>>Age of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >>>- Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, >>>Joseph Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in >>>1901. >>>- Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for >>>Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in >>> Oakland >>>1878 (City Directory) >>>- 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary >>>show as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) >>>- Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and >>>9 days. Same as death cert. >>>- The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In >>>handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the >>>thread below. >>> >>> Could not find >>> >>>- Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) >>>- Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have >>>no idea what island they are from. >>>- What happened to Joseph Silva. >>>- Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues >>>- Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a >>>records search at the Oakland Diocese) >>>- Other newspaper tidbits except below: >>> >>> Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the >>> few records I could find. >>> >>> >>> >>> Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section >>> that read; >>> >>> >>> >>> *Dec 19, 190
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel Sao Braz
Thanks Mara. I have the English version of the Herald News obituary. That's where I got all the info in my post. Maybe the Manuel and Maria are the same. As to finding the correct church that Ms. Mello suggests there really isn't anyone left to query. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
John, Joseph Dyce and Marie Rogers had two children; DYCE GERALDIN I 1913 05 04 RODGERS FEMALE SANTA CRUZ 262687 DYCE GERALD M 1914 09 23 RODGERS MALE SANTA CRUZ 310216 The 1920 census shows Marie and the children living with her father, Milton P Rogers at 99 Bay St, Santa Cruz. Eric Edgar On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:24 PM, luiznoia . wrote: > John, > > Here is marriage announcement for Joseph Dyce from 1912 . Green Valley is > between Corralitos and Freedom in eastern Santa Cruz county. > > Marie Rogers is the daughter of Manuel P and Mary Rogers, both born in > Portugal. She was born in Massachucetts in 1876 according to the 1910 census > > > Eric Edgar > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, luiznoia . > wrote: > >> John, >> >> I worked on this back in 2013 with you. I'll go back and comment on that >> thread so all discussion can be seen again. >> >> Meanwhile I found one more news item on Joseph Dyce. This is from 1914, >> and he is being transported to Watsonville as an indigent. >> >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp wrote: >> >>> I was thinking the same thing...Dyce/Dias. Also what about >>> Nicols/Nicholas?? >>> >>> "E" >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >>> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> *Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce is a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols.* *Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with an indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be from? * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Machado *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. What I know. - Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. - Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. - Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869 in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. - Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. - Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce shown on death cert and internment records. - Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. - Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. Media - 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) - Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. - Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878 (City Directory) - 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary show as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) - Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9 days. Same as death cert. - The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the thread below. Could not find - Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) - Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no idea what island they ar
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
John, If you type Dyce into the search of your gmail, you should be able to find the thread. Eric On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Threads/posts/messages over 30 days old are closed. Responses to those > threads are marked as spam. Please just copy and paste anything important > from the previous thread to this one. Thank you, Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, luiznoia . > wrote: > >> John, >> >> I worked on this back in 2013 with you. I'll go back and comment on that >> thread so all discussion can be seen again. >> >> Meanwhile I found one more news item on Joseph Dyce. This is from 1914, >> and he is being transported to Watsonville as an indigent. >> >> >> Eric Edgar >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp wrote: >> >>> I was thinking the same thing...Dyce/Dias. Also what about >>> Nicols/Nicholas?? >>> >>> "E" >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >>> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> *Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce is a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols.* *Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with an indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be from? * *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Machado *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before coming to US. I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest. I was simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26, 1830 as a last ditch effort. Angustius is simply where I started. What I know. - Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year. - Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868 in Buffalo, NY. Joseph Silva listed as father. - Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869 in Oakland, CA. Joseph Silva listed as father. - Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address as Joseph Nichols. Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva. - Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce. Joseph Silva Dyce shown on death cert and internment records. - Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893. I have death cert. Lists Mary Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father. - Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA Nov 4, 1901. I have death cert. Media - 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph. Age of Mary shown as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) - Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva. Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901. - Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols. Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878 (City Directory) - 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols. Age of Mary show as 40. (Address matches City Directory Records) - Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9 days. Same as death cert. - The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother. In handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo. Attached in the thread below. Could not find - Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists) - Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva. Have no idea what island they are from. - What happened to Joseph Silva. - Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues - Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a records search at the Oak
[AZORES-Genealogy] Mannival
this is a long shot but I am wondering if the name Mannival is a Portuguese surname. We cannot track the parents of our first ancestor from Portugal to Nova Scotia but over the years I have come across this name and a second name. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
Yes ma’am, you are correct. I descend from Mary Agnes Silva who married William Perry aka Guilherme Francisco Pereira. I am a participant in the Azore DNA Project. John M. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Miguel Sao Braz
Hey, you will have to check to Porto Formoso records for that time period, all religious stuff in Sao Braz happened in Porto Formoso. I have family in both places. I know there is 1 or 2 Mello families in the records. Contact me if you need help, I can keep a eye out for you family while I look for mine. Both sides of my family come from Porto Formoso and Sao Braz. On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 1:32:38 PM UTC-4, jfm...@aol.com wrote: > > New to this sight. It's fantastic. > Great grandfather Jose Mello aka Jose Jose Chadinha born about 1867 > married Helena Ricarda and immigrated to US around turn o 19th to 20th > century. His parents were Manuel Mello and Maria Carlotta. Anyone familiar > with names? I'm flying blind! Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mannival
I have never seen it but Mandeville is a French Canadian surname. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DAWN JOSEY Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 7:16 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mannival this is a long shot but I am wondering if the name Mannival is a Portuguese surname. We cannot track the parents of our first ancestor from Portugal to Nova Scotia but over the years I have come across this name and a second name. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mannival
It might be, only if it were phonetically written. When I read Mannival out loud I hear "Manuel" which is a common Portuguese name or surname. On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 7:15 PM, DAWN JOSEY wrote: > this is a long shot but I am wondering if the name Mannival is a > Portuguese surname. We cannot track the parents of our first ancestor from > Portugal to Nova Scotia but over the years I have come across this name and > a second name. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is considered New World
Hi Cheri! My husband has a little of that New World and he has a small amount of Native American ancestry I thought maybe that is where it came from? Does that sound right to you? Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > People with "New World" get this on their map under their My Origins tab > (ethnicity ESTIMATES): > > > I see it with the Brazilians and people who are part Mexican or part South > American. Cheri > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 2:29 PM, 'Vivian Christy' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> Hi Cheri, I was asked the question about the break down on FTDNA where they >> tell you what percentage of nationality you have in your DNA. >> >> So if someone has New World in that break down what does that mean >> >> Thank you, >> Vivian Silva Christy >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
