RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Margaret Vicente]

This couple is in my tree.  Here’s the link to their marriage, right side, # 11

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-C-1860-1869/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-C-1860-1869_item1/P58.html

Margaret
From: Mike B
Sent: January 7, 2019 9:41 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. 
Thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Theresa Entin]

Hi Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria?  Morais is a common
name there as is Pereira. Theresa

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal
> grandmother's birth.
>
>  Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line.  I have
> all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal
> grandmother.  I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church
> in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that
> says she was baptized and where it occurred.  There is no such note.
>
> Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
> Generation No. 1
> 1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI,
> USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was
> the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He
> married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI,
> USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24
> Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the
> daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
> Generation No. 2
> 2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico,
> Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre,
> Hayward).  He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA
> da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol,
> RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
> 3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara,
> Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro,
> CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
> MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
> Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
> 4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da
> Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this
> search.  In addition, I have searched through all the records of the
> villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose
> grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents.  My thought was that
> Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her
> biological family and was the child of someone else in the family.  I have
> not found her in any of these searches.  As of this date, I continue to
> follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family
> to which she believed she belonged.
> 1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to
> look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909.  I have
> found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not
> sure when she arrived in the US.
> Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
> i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self;
> died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz
> Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island,
> USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
> 1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East
> Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death
> index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence,
> RI, USA.
> iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI,
> USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch;
> married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt.
> 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA.
> iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East
> Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda
> Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
> v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East
> Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline
> Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena.
>
> Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need.
>
>
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Margaret Vicente]

Richard, here’s what it says.

N.o 1 Casou com Lucinda das dores Ferreira no dia 10 de November de 1923 nesta 
Conservatoria, assent de casamento n.o 76 do ante ano.  Em doze de Marco de mil 
novecentos e setenta e quatro.

N.o 2 Faleceu na freguesia e concelho da Calheta de Sao Jorge em 28-1-75 
Averbamento 123 ao assento de casamento N.o 76 de 1923 – Em 12 de Marco de 
1979.  

N.o 3 *Fixou o nome de Domingos Pimentel por afeito do casamento averbado sob o 
N.o anterior N.o 76 de 1923. Em 24 de Janeiro de 1996.

*Fixed/Affirmed the name of Domingos Pimentel as a result of the noted marriage 
….

He may have been known by another name like Fidelis from his mom’s side and at 
marriage opted by Pimentel.

Hope this helps,

Margaret


From: Cheri Mello
Sent: January 7, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

I have no clue as the 2nd name of the wife. The writing is a cross between 
print and cursive and rather "bubbly." Makes it hard to read, especially when 
squished.

I see the marriage date of 10 Nov 1923. I think he died 28 Jan 1979. Compare 
that 1 (looks like a cursive lower case "L") with some of the other 1s in that 
column. The 1s are written 2 different ways. Also the 9s. Some of the 9s are 
closed loop and some are not.

I think the 3rd note says he married under the name of Domingos Pimentel, but 
you probably got that part.

Hopefully someone else can get the bride's 2nd name.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:23 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
Hi, I can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he married 10 
Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ……….?    In the second note, it 
says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html
 
 
I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of the 
birde.
 
 
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Theresa Entin]

What does the DNA say?


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal
> grandmother's birth.
>
>  Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line.  I have
> all the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal
> grandmother.  I call her the elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church
> in RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin note that
> says she was baptized and where it occurred.  There is no such note.
>
> Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
> Generation No. 1
> 1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI,
> USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was
> the son of 2. FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He
> married (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI,
> USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24
> Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the
> daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
> Generation No. 2
> 2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico,
> Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre,
> Hayward).  He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA
> da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol,
> RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
> 3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara,
> Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro,
> CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
> MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
> Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
> 4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da
> Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this
> search.  In addition, I have searched through all the records of the
> villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose
> grandparents were the same as Maria Christo's parents.  My thought was that
> Maria Christo may have been raised by the family she though was her
> biological family and was the child of someone else in the family.  I have
> not found her in any of these searches.  As of this date, I continue to
> follow any leads I find that will give me proof of her birth to the family
> to which she believed she belonged.
> 1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to
> look for any information that she gave when she married in 1909.  I have
> found that the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not
> sure when she arrived in the US.
> Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
> i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self;
> died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz
> Sr Bef. 1937 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island,
> USA; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
> 1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East
> Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death
> index; married ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence,
> RI, USA.
> iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI,
> USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch;
> married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt.
> 1913 in East Providence, RI, USA.
> iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East
> Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda
> Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
> v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East
> Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline
> Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena.
>
> Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need.
>
>
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Margaret Vicente]

Correction to first name at a second glace the first letter seems to be a “D” 
for Ducinda?



Margaret

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: January 7, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

I have no clue as the 2nd name of the wife. The writing is a cross between 
print and cursive and rather "bubbly." Makes it hard to read, especially when 
squished.

I see the marriage date of 10 Nov 1923. I think he died 28 Jan 1979. Compare 
that 1 (looks like a cursive lower case "L") with some of the other 1s in that 
column. The 1s are written 2 different ways. Also the 9s. Some of the 9s are 
closed loop and some are not.

I think the 3rd note says he married under the name of Domingos Pimentel, but 
you probably got that part.

Hopefully someone else can get the bride's 2nd name.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:23 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
Hi, I can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he married 10 
Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ……….?    In the second note, it 
says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html
 
 
I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of the 
birde.
 
 
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism translations

[Cheri Mello]

Mike B,

Women are more likely than men to change their religious middle name. They
marry under one (that perhaps they have had since confirmation) and after
going through their first pregnancy, they become devoted the Virgin Mary of
the Conception (Conceição) and begin using that. Also, the women were not
present at the baptism. They were typically home on bed rest, as was
customary for the day. The father and the godparents went to baptize the
baby. So when they ask for the mother's name, they know her as Delphina,
but take a guess as to the religious component. As you collect all the kids
of the couple, you'll start to realize that they are guessing at mom's
middle name. I poke fun at it saying "Too much vinho."

The marriage you attached is in the 2nd time period. These records don't
include the detailed information of the 3rd time period (once in a while,
you will find the detailed one, but that is not the norm. And this marriage
is normal for the time period). So no ages for the bride and groom.

If you have collected all the kids for this couple and you know where your
ancestor fits in the family, then you can take the birth of kid 1 (pretend
it was Jan. 1, 1818) and subtract 18 years and start looking for their
births in 1800 on back. The bride could have been 25 and the groom could
have been 30. You just don't know. You just go back in time. It's how we
all did it. I don't know if that freguesia has any indices. I believe I
posted the link to Tombo.pt for you to check in another email.

Here's what to expect for the 3 time periods. I arranged it by event
(baptism, marriage, death). You can copy and paste it into a Word type
editor and arrange it by time period if you prefer. Then you can print it
out and have it handy until you get used to them: https://goo.gl/ie5McX
Happy Hunting, Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:06 PM Mike B  wrote:

> That is interesting how Delphinas name is different here compared to being
> Do Espirito Santo prior.
>
> Can anyone help me pull some age ranges out of this marriage record if
> they exist within it? Im trying to narrow down a search period for the
> Baptisms of the two married within it and having a real hard time finding
> them.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839_item1/P77.html
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 9:45:40 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> The further you go back in time, the more abbrevations you see. They are
>> not supposed to abbreviate in the 2nd time period, but you may see some
>> abbreviations here or there. The first line names her as Claudina do Esp^o
>> (or may be Es^o) S^to (the ^ means the next letters are raised).
>>
>> Yes, Claudina do Espirito Santo filha (daughter) de Jose da Costa
>> Cyprianno (today Ciprano) ede (should be "e de" for "and of") Tereza
>> deJesus (he ran de Jesus together). OK, I thought it was weird in the first
>> document that your guy was Jose Cipriano. Cipriano is a first name and I
>> figured there was a missing name that the priest dropped off. And now it
>> appears. My best guess (and you'll figure this out as you collect more
>> relatives) - Your Jose da Costa was tired of being confused with his uncle,
>> Jose da Costa, his cousin, Jose da Costa, his other cousin, Jose da Costa,
>> and his nephew, Jose da Costa. Not to mention the 3 other Costa families in
>> that church, all of whom have someone name Jose da Costa. So he tacked on
>> Ciprano from his relative. You'll figure it out as you go back it time if
>> it was his dad, his grandfather or some other relative. Cipriano is less
>> common, so it would be a good identifier. Better than being called
>> Grasshopper, Shorty, Lefty, or For Example (yes, those are all literal
>> translations of names people have tacked on).
>>
>> Delfina is Delfina da Conceição now. (Wasn't she Delfina do Espirito
>> Santo before?) They wrote it with the old spelling of Conceicam instead.
>> This is where you'll have to see how Delfina married, and how she appears
>> on each of her kids' baptism (she wasn't present) and go with the "majority
>> rules" rule.
>>
>> You should find about 6-8 kids before your Manuel's birth. He seems like
>> he may be a kid born towards the end. He was either the first Manuel or the
>> first one that lived to adulthood. Or maybe they had a lot of girls.
>>
>> The date is 19 Mar 1832. The bride and groom were baptized in that church
>> and spent the last 3 Lents there. Or fulfilled their Lenten duties there, I
>> should say.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:16 PM Mike B  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe I found the marriage record for Manoel Botelho birthdate
>>> unknown and his wife Cla

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Thank You Margaret,

It all makes sense. I think I had most of it. It was the bride’s name that was 
giving me the difficulty.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:59 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

 

Correction to first name at a second glace the first letter seems to be a “D” 
for Ducinda?

 

 

 

Margaret

 

From: Cheri Mello  
Sent: January 7, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy  
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

 

I have no clue as the 2nd name of the wife. The writing is a cross between 
print and cursive and rather "bubbly." Makes it hard to read, especially when 
squished.

 

I see the marriage date of 10 Nov 1923. I think he died 28 Jan 1979. Compare 
that 1 (looks like a cursive lower case "L") with some of the other 1s in that 
column. The 1s are written 2 different ways. Also the 9s. Some of the 9s are 
closed loop and some are not.

 

I think the 3rd note says he married under the name of Domingos Pimentel, but 
you probably got that part.

 

Hopefully someone else can get the bride's 2nd name.

 

 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:23 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Hi, I can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he married 10 
Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ……….?In the second note, it 
says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html
 

 

I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of the 
birde.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

They were married in Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church.  I 
saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St. Mary's this summer.  
There was written in the entry (and the other entries of that page) that said, 
"Copy sent."  I asked what that meant and the person to whom I spoke did not 
know.  I thought maybe it was a copy of the marriage that had been sent to the 
Diocese or back to the Azores.
I went to the diocese office and was told there were no records there of this 
type.

I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor, Clyde J. Walsh on 
March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of the marriage.)

Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka, Philip Perreira Da 
Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived with 
Maria Cristo's brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St. Bristol, 
R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15 Estabrook St., Bristol, RI. and 
Maria Cristo's mother, Jacintha Libiana, lived there too.

In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose Perry.

In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E. Providence, R.I.

Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The elusive Maria Cristo's 
birth record.


In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E. Providence, RI.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM
 
 Can I get the details of their
 marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you
 
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['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you, Teresa.  So far, I have found all of the family being born and 
living in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to the U.S.

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM
 
 Hi
 Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria?  Morais
 is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa
 On Mon, Jan
 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
 
    I have been looking for a document that validates my
 husband's paternal grandmother's birth.
 
 
 
  Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's,
 paternal line.  I have all the information except the birth
 (baptism) of his paternal grandmother.  I call her the
 elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church in
 RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin
 note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. 
 There is no such note.  
 
 
 
 Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
 
 Generation No. 1
 
     1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East
 Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles,
 CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was the son of 2. FELIPE
 PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He married
 (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East
 Providence, RI, USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East
 Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward,
 CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the daughter
 of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
 
 Generation No. 2
 
     2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in
 Soldao, Lajes, Pico,  Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San
 Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  He
 was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA
 GLORIA da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24
 Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
 
     3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da
 Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died
 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy
 Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
 MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
 
     Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
 
 4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal
 records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao
 Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this search.  In
 addition, I have searched through all the records of the
 villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a
 "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria
 Christo's parents.  My thought was that Maria Christo
 may have been raised by the family she though was her
 biological family and was the child of someone else in the
 family.  I have not found her in any of these searches. 
 As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that
 will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she
 believed she belonged.
 
 1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI
 and asked them to look for any information that she gave
 when she married in 1909.  I have found that the
 information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not
 sure when she arrived in the US.
 
         Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
 
         i.    Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East
 Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery,
 Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East
 Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA;
 died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
 
     1    ii.    SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug
 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los
 Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA)
 CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
 
         iii.    Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in
 East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in
 Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark
 Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in
 East Providence, RI, USA.
 
         iv.    John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08
 Apr 1916 in East Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in
 Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI,
 USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
 
         v.    Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born
 Aft. 1921 in East Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000
 in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915
 in /Lena.
 
 
 
         Any help in “documenting” her birth is what
 I need.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Cheri Mello]

What did Maria Cristo's naturalization or Alien Registration say?
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Teresa.  So far, I have found all of the family being born and
> living in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to the U.S.
>
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM
>
>  Hi
>  Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria?  Morais
>  is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa
>  On Mon, Jan
>  7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores
>  Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>
>
> I have been looking for a document that validates my
>  husband's paternal grandmother's birth.
>
>
>
>   Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's,
>  paternal line.  I have all the information except the birth
>  (baptism) of his paternal grandmother.  I call her the
>  elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church in
>  RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin
>  note that says she was baptized and where it occurred.
>  There is no such note.
>
>
>
>  Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
>
>  Generation No. 1
>
>  1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East
>  Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles,
>  CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was the son of 2. FELIPE
>  PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He married
>  (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East
>  Providence, RI, USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East
>  Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward,
>  CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the daughter
>  of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
>
>  Generation No. 2
>
>  2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in
>  Soldao, Lajes, Pico,  Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San
>  Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  He
>  was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA
>  GLORIA da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24
>  Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
>
>  3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da
>  Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died
>  03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy
>  Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
>  MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
>
>  Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
>
>  4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal
>  records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao
>  Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this search.  In
>  addition, I have searched through all the records of the
>  villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a
>  "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria
>  Christo's parents.  My thought was that Maria Christo
>  may have been raised by the family she though was her
>  biological family and was the child of someone else in the
>  family.  I have not found her in any of these searches.
>  As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that
>  will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she
>  believed she belonged.
>
>  1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI
>  and asked them to look for any information that she gave
>  when she married in 1909.  I have found that the
>  information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not
>  sure when she arrived in the US.
>
>  Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
>
>  i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East
>  Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery,
>  Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East
>  Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA;
>  died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
>
>  1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug
>  1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los
>  Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA)
>  CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
>
>  iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in
>  East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in
>  Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark
>  Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in
>  East Providence, RI, USA.
>
>  iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08
>  Apr 1916 in East Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in
>  Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI,
>  USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
>
>  v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born
>  Aft. 1921 in East Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000
>  in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915
>  in /Lena.
>
>
>
>  Any h

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

DNA has not been done.  I am still working on getting my husband to agree to do 
the DNA.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:56 AM
 
 What does
 the DNA say?
 
 On Mon, Jan
 7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
 
    I have been looking for a document that validates my
 husband's paternal grandmother's birth.
 
 
 
  Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's,
 paternal line.  I have all the information except the birth
 (baptism) of his paternal grandmother.  I call her the
 elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church in
 RI this year where she married to see if there is a margin
 note that says she was baptized and where it occurred. 
 There is no such note.  
 
 
 
 Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
 
 Generation No. 1
 
     1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East
 Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles,
 CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was the son of 2. FELIPE
 PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He married
 (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East
 Providence, RI, USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East
 Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward,
 CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the daughter
 of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
 
 Generation No. 2
 
     2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in
 Soldao, Lajes, Pico,  Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San
 Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  He
 was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA
 GLORIA da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24
 Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
 
     3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da
 Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died
 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy
 Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
 MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
 
     Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
 
 4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal
 records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao
 Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this search.  In
 addition, I have searched through all the records of the
 villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a
 "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as Maria
 Christo's parents.  My thought was that Maria Christo
 may have been raised by the family she though was her
 biological family and was the child of someone else in the
 family.  I have not found her in any of these searches. 
 As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that
 will give me proof of her birth to the family to which she
 believed she belonged.
 
 1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI
 and asked them to look for any information that she gave
 when she married in 1909.  I have found that the
 information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not
 sure when she arrived in the US.
 
         Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
 
         i.    Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East
 Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery,
 Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East
 Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA;
 died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
 
     1    ii.    SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug
 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los
 Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index; married ADELINA (LENA)
 CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
 
         iii.    Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in
 East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in
 Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; married Margaret Roark
 Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in
 East Providence, RI, USA.
 
         iv.    John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08
 Apr 1916 in East Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in
 Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 1944 in Bristol, RI,
 USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
 
         v.    Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born
 Aft. 1921 in East Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000
 in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915
 in /Lena.
 
 
 
         Any help in “documenting” her birth is what
 I need.
 
 
 
 
 
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

["E" Sharp]

Celeste,

Happy New Year!  "Copy sent" probably means you or someone else requested a
copy of the marriage at one time or another.

"E"

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:37 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> They were married in Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church.
> I saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St. Mary's this
> summer.  There was written in the entry (and the other entries of that
> page) that said, "Copy sent."  I asked what that meant and the person to
> whom I spoke did not know.  I thought maybe it was a copy of the marriage
> that had been sent to the Diocese or back to the Azores.
> I went to the diocese office and was told there were no records there of
> this type.
>
> I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor, Clyde J. Walsh on
> March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of the marriage.)
>
> Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka, Philip Perreira Da
> Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived
> with Maria Cristo's brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St.
> Bristol, R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15 Estabrook St.,
> Bristol, RI. and Maria Cristo's mother, Jacintha Libiana, lived there too.
>
> In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose Perry.
>
> In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E. Providence, R.I.
>
> Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The elusive Maria
> Cristo's birth record.
>
>
> In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E. Providence, RI.
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>  Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM
>
>  Can I get the details of their
>  marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank you
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

E,
I thought that might be it; however, all of the records had the same writing on 
them.  Since my husband is the oldest grandson of this marriage, we do not have 
any of her "papers."  The rest of the family does not seem to be at all 
interested in documenting her birth place.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Tue, 1/8/19, E" Sharp  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: "azores" 
 Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 9:42 AM
 
 Celeste,
 Happy New Year!  "Copy
 sent" probably means you or someone else requested a
 copy of the marriage at one time or another.
 "E"
 On Tue, Jan
 8, 2019 at 9:37 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 They were married in
 Bristol, R.I. on Nov. 24, 1907 at St. Mary's Church.  I
 saw the church record of the marriage when I visited St.
 Mary's this summer.  There was written in the entry
 (and the other entries of that page) that said, "Copy
 sent."  I asked what that meant and the person to whom
 I spoke did not know.  I thought maybe it was a copy of the
 marriage that had been sent to the Diocese or back to the
 Azores.
 
 I went to the diocese office and was told there were no
 records there of this type.
 
 
 
 I do have a marriage certificate signed by Asst. Pastor,
 Clyde J. Walsh on March 3, 1953, (when I began the search of
 the marriage.)
 
 
 
 Maria Cristo and her husband, Filippe P. Da Silva (aka,
 Philip Perreira Da Silva or Felipe Pereira da Silva; Felippe
 Silva and/or Philip Perry) lived with Maria Cristo's
 brother, Seraphine Morais (Morris), at 15 Estabrook St.
 Bristol, R.I. in the 1910 census they were still at 15
 Estabrook St., Bristol, RI. and Maria Cristo's mother,
 Jacintha Libiana, lived there too.
 
 
 
 In the 1920 census, they lived at the same address with Jose
 Perry.
 
 
 
 In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St., E.
 Providence, R.I.
 
 
 
 Thank you for any help you can give me in finding "The
 elusive Maria Cristo's birth record.
 
 
 
 
 
 In the 1930 census, they lived at 66 Blossom St. E.
 Providence, RI.
 
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria
 Cristo"
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 
  Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 6:41 PM
 
 
 
  Can I get the details of their
 
  marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. Thank
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[EMIL SILVEIRA]

Hi Celeste,
 Please Ask my cousin Bob to please get "Er Done!" DNA that is of course. I 
have mine done up to Big Y. He should be interested to see how we compare. Dot 
also had her's done. And I had her brother's done to Big Y also. 
 Dot and I now live in Peoria, Arizona, moved here 6 months ago. I have 
been working on Bob and my cousins who descend from those in your file. I was 
surprised to find the Cruz family who also lived in Arizona and have made some 
additions on them in my file now.

  Regards and Love to all.

   Cousin Emil

Researching: Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Terceira, Brazil, United States and Canada.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] before 1630 -Maia- Baptisms

[Felipe de Sampaio Rodrigues]

Gostaria de Saber onde as crianças nascidas em Maia no ano de 1630 eram 
batizadas? 
Quero completar minha árvore e não encontro registro de batismos de Manuel 
Rodrigues Guimaraes (1630-1676)

I would like to know where the children born in Maia about 1630 were baptized?
I want to complete my Genealogy but I can't find Manuel Rodrigues Guimaraes .

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GMFP-RSC


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] before 1630 -Maia- Baptisms

[Cheri Mello]

Felipe SR,

That's it. No more records exist. You have hit your "End of Line" ancestor
and have exhausted the records. You can search other sources like Saudades
da Terra to see if he was mentioned. If not, that line is done.

Hope you are that successful on your other lines!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:37 PM Felipe de Sampaio Rodrigues <
sampaio.jupi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gostaria de Saber onde as crianças nascidas em Maia no ano de 1630 eram
> batizadas?
> Quero completar minha árvore e não encontro registro de batismos de Manuel
> Rodrigues Guimaraes (1630-1676)
>
> I would like to know where the children born in Maia about 1630 were baptized?
> I want to complete my Genealogy but I can't find Manuel Rodrigues Guimaraes .
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GMFP-RSC
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] before 1630 -Maia- Baptisms

[Margaret Vicente]

Felipe,

You may wish to try the Parish of Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira Grande.  
Estrela was the mother church for the Ribeira Grande Region.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1628-1642/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1628-1642_item1/index.html

Good luck.
Margaret


From: Felipe de Sampaio Rodrigues
Sent: January 8, 2019 6:37 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] before 1630 -Maia- Baptisms

Gostaria de Saber onde as crianças nascidas em Maia no ano de 1630 eram 
batizadas? 
Quero completar minha árvore e não encontro registro de batismos de Manuel 
Rodrigues Guimaraes (1630-1676)


I would like to know where the children born in Maia about 1630 were baptized?
I want to complete my Genealogy but I can't find Manuel Rodrigues Guimaraes .

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GMFP-RSC

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Sorry, Cheri.  I have been trying to find Maria Cristo's immigration record.  
Seems I have put it "in a safe place" and can't find it right now.  I will 
continue to look through my files for it.


Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Tue, 1/8/19, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 9:42 AM
 
 What did
 Maria Cristo's naturalization or Alien Registration
 say?
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner,
 Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island:
 Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada
 
 On Tue, Jan
 8, 2019 at 9:40 AM 'celeste perry' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 Thank you, Teresa.  So
 far, I have found all of the family being born and living in
 Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel until they migrated to
 the U.S.
 
 
 
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, 1/8/19, Theresa Entin 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria
 Cristo"
 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 8:51 AM
 
 
 
  Hi
 
  Celeste, Have you tried the island of Santa Maria? 
 Morais
 
  is a common name there as is Pereira. Theresa
 
  On Mon, Jan
 
  7, 2019 at 5:13 PM 'celeste perry' via Azores
 
  Genealogy 
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
     I have been looking for a document that validates
 my
 
  husband's paternal grandmother's birth.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Here is what I have about my husband, Bob
 Perry's,
 
  paternal line.  I have all the information except the
 birth
 
  (baptism) of his paternal grandmother.  I call her the
 
  elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church
 in
 
  RI this year where she married to see if there is a
 margin
 
  note that says she was baptized and where it
 occurred. 
 
  There is no such note.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
 
 
 
  Generation No. 1
 
 
 
      1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in
 East
 
  Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles,
 
  CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was the son of 2. FELIPE
 
  PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He
 married
 
  (1) ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East
 
  Providence, RI, USA.  She was born 03 May 1912 in East
 
  Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward,
 
  CA,  USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the
 daughter
 
  of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
 
 
 
  Generation No. 2
 
 
 
      2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in
 
  Soldao, Lajes, Pico,  Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in
 San
 
  Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward). 
 He
 
  was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA
 
  GLORIA da ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS
 24
 
  Nov 1907 in Bristol, RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
 
 
 
      3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba
 da
 
  Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz;
 died
 
  03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy
 
  Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO
 
  MORAIS da COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
 
 
 
      Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
 
 
 
  4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal
 
  records for Lomba da Santa Barbara on the island of Sao
 
  Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this search.  In
 
  addition, I have searched through all the records of
 the
 
  villages surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a
 
  "Maria" whose grandparents were the same as
 Maria
 
  Christo's parents.  My thought was that Maria
 Christo
 
  may have been raised by the family she though was her
 
  biological family and was the child of someone else in
 the
 
  family.  I have not found her in any of these
 searches. 
 
  As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find
 that
 
  will give me proof of her birth to the family to which
 she
 
  believed she belonged.
 
 
 
  1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol,
 RI
 
  and asked them to look for any information that she
 gave
 
  when she married in 1909.  I have found that the
 
  information I had for her arrival was not her so I am
 not
 
  sure when she arrived in the US.
 
 
 
          Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
 
 
 
          i.    Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in
 East
 
  Providence, RI/self; died in Buried Holy Sepulchre
 Cemetery,
 
  Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 in East
 
  Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island,
 USA;
 
  died in Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
 
 
 
      1    ii.    SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23
 Aug
 
  1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in
 Los
 
  Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index; married ADELINA
 (LENA)
 
  CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
 
 
 
          iii.    Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913
 in
 
  East Providence, RI, USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989
 in
 
  Alameda

[AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Cristo

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

 I can't seem to find the immigration document I copied for her from 
Ancestry.com.  I no longer subscribe to Ancestry.   I have her listed as 
arriving in Boston, July 31, 1909; she is listed as Maria Moraes and 25 years 
old, and the ship was Crotic.  

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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