[AZORES-Genealogy] Evangelho surname

[Margarida DaSilva]

I think my great grandfather is related here Manuel DaCosta GG

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugues song recordings

[linda]

[image: LoC FB Capture.JPG]

Photo shows a broken link for me, so let's try it again :D


On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>
> Hi Janet,
>
> I'm absolutely delighted that you found your Aunt in the link I posted! 
>
> The link originally showed up in my FaceBook Feed, so I thought I'd share 
> it to this google group.  In the back of my mind I wondered if anyone here 
> might be related to the musicians, but I never seriously thought someone 
> would make such a close connection-- so glad it did!!  Here's what the FB 
> post looked like in my feed:
>
>
>
> Thanks Steve, for the link to the Azorean folk recordings in the 
> collection!  I've saved it and shared it too.
>
> I have a little time today, so I thought I'd follow up on providing a 
> little more info on the folk recording collection. 
>
> Background info on Sidney Robertson Cowell and her WPA music project:  
> https://www.loc.gov/collections/sidney-robertson-cowell-northern-california-folk-music/articles-and-essays/the-ethnographic-experience-sidney-robertson-cowell-in-northern-california/
>
> a photo of Sidney in her project office: 
> https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701346/
>
>
> Because the FaceBook post included a cropped photo, I hoped that the 
> larger image might also include Janet's aunt Elsie.  Unfortunately, it 
> didn't, but here are photos of some of the other Portuguese participants in 
> the project and their instruments:
>
> Alice Lemos Avila with Olive and Joachim Flores and Frank Cunha, group 
> portrait: https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701293/
>
> Mr. Franks [Clifford Franco?], Manuel Lemos and Alberto Mendes: 
> https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701166/
>
> two guitars: https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701294/
>
>
> Happy New Year everyone!
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:09 PM UTC-8, Janet Carminati wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Linda posted this song over the holidays and I wanted to let this group 
>> know that my Aunt Elsie (Elzira Silva) is featured in this group.  I grew 
>> up with my aunt (she was my favorite babysitter) and she was a wonderful 
>> pianist but never mentioned these recordings!  Her parents were both from 
>> Faial and came to the US ending up in Oakland CA where they settled.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other information as I would like to learn more or 
>> see if others are related to any of the other performers.  Apparently there 
>> were several other recordings as well.  
>>
>> A Portuguese Christmas song, Oakland 1939: 
>>
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701593/?loclr=fbafc=IwAR0B9xS2tW1pJvVfiGozh0PHPZOtWMD6VDGxbCyo6A4zKJceygz8mBuUp1E
>>  
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Janet
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugues song recordings

[linda]

Hi Janet,

I'm absolutely delighted that you found your Aunt in the link I posted! 

The link originally showed up in my FaceBook Feed, so I thought I'd share 
it to this google group.  In the back of my mind I wondered if anyone here 
might be related to the musicians, but I never seriously thought someone 
would make such a close connection-- so glad it did!!  Here's what the FB 
post looked like in my feed:



Thanks Steve, for the link to the Azorean folk recordings in the 
collection!  I've saved it and shared it too.

I have a little time today, so I thought I'd follow up on providing a 
little more info on the folk recording collection. 

Background info on Sidney Robertson Cowell and her WPA music project:  
https://www.loc.gov/collections/sidney-robertson-cowell-northern-california-folk-music/articles-and-essays/the-ethnographic-experience-sidney-robertson-cowell-in-northern-california/

a photo of Sidney in her project office: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701346/


Because the FaceBook post included a cropped photo, I hoped that the larger 
image might also include Janet's aunt Elsie.  Unfortunately, it didn't, but 
here are photos of some of the other Portuguese participants in the project 
and their instruments:

Alice Lemos Avila with Olive and Joachim Flores and Frank Cunha, group 
portrait: https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701293/

Mr. Franks [Clifford Franco?], Manuel Lemos and Alberto Mendes: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701166/

two guitars: https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701294/


Happy New Year everyone!

:)

Linda

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:44:09 PM UTC-8, Janet Carminati wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Linda posted this song over the holidays and I wanted to let this group 
> know that my Aunt Elsie (Elzira Silva) is featured in this group.  I grew 
> up with my aunt (she was my favorite babysitter) and she was a wonderful 
> pianist but never mentioned these recordings!  Her parents were both from 
> Faial and came to the US ending up in Oakland CA where they settled.
>
> Does anyone have any other information as I would like to learn more or 
> see if others are related to any of the other performers.  Apparently there 
> were several other recordings as well.  
>
> A Portuguese Christmas song, Oakland 1939: 
>
> https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701593/?loclr=fbafc=IwAR0B9xS2tW1pJvVfiGozh0PHPZOtWMD6VDGxbCyo6A4zKJceygz8mBuUp1E
>  
>
> Thanks very much,
> Janet
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracing Francisco José Cordeiro

[linda]

Hi Bill,

Just some thoughts:

Have you tried drawing out timelines for your Francisco Jose Cordeiro and 
for the NZ Francisco Jose?  Sometimes that helps clarify things.  

What documents exist for the New Zealand Francisco Jose?  

I'm struck by how much Francisco Jose and Maria Isabel seemed to be moving 
around.  I'd look at a timeline of events in the Azores to see if there 
might be external reasons for their island hopping.  Personal/economic 
reasons would be harder to identify-- not that this would help you figure 
it out, but I like to think about context...  I also think it's interesting 
that Maria is significantly older than Francisco and that their first child 
is born only about 5 months after the wedding.   And that he was only in 
his late 20's when he may have vanished from the Azorean records.  

You don't explicitly say, but I assume you haven't found an obit for 
Francisco Jose, and you're trying to use other evidence to confirm his 
presence or absence in the Azores?  

Circumstantial evidence and supposition aside, the DNA links seem 
compelling.  Is there another way to explain them?

I doubt there's anything here you haven't already considered, but maybe it 
will spark an idea.

What an interesting mystery!

best of luck,

Linda



On Friday, January 17, 2020 at 3:45:15 PM UTC-8, Bill Seidler wrote:
>
> This is asking a lot, but I am hoping someone will take up interest and 
> offer me an opinion or guidance.  I suspect my wife's 2d Great Grandfather 
> left the Azores in the 1860s and ended up in New Zealand.  
>
> He is mentioned on his last child's baptism (João)  in 1854.  Then he is 
> the father of the groom on the same child's marriage in 1882.  It does not 
> say he was absent, but I don't think it would since the groom was of age.  
> If my theory is correct he would have already been gone.  He is also 
> mentioned as the paternal grandfather on the baptisms of the four children 
> of his son João.  His first son, Manuel, left around 1869 and ended up in 
> Sacramento, CA under the name Manuel J. Lamb.  His second son died as an 
> infant.
>
> He is next mentioned in his wife's (Maria Isabel) Obit which states that 
> she is still married to Francisco José Cordeiro.  It confirms that she is 
> leaving two sons which concurs with the baptisms and obit I have found for 
> their children.
>
> Then on the list of inventories available on Sãojorgegenealogy.org (image 
> attached), her son João (Manuel was already in Sacramento) is listed as the 
> one doing the inventory.  Would this have been her husband if he were 
> present?  If the theory I am attempting to test in true, her husband was 
> already married to someone else in New Zealand by this time.  In New 
> Zealand, Francis Joseph (who I suspect is Francisco José Cordeiro) reported 
> that he was married before but was widowed. 
>
> My wife is a close DNA match to descendants of the Francis Joseph in New 
> Zealand.  There is one descendant of Antonio José Cordeiro (Francisco's 
> father on Gracioisa) that matches both my wife and the descendants of 
> Francis Joseph in New Zealand.
>
> I have attached links to the CCA records that tracked Francisco José 
> Cordeiro to the extent I was able and a .jpg image in the inventory list 
> for any that would be willing to help me sort this out.
>
>
> His baptism in 1828 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa: (Francisco, starting 
> just below top right).
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1826-1833_item1/P30.html
>
>
> His marriage in 1849 in São Sebastião, Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel (starts 
> bottom left)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P121.html
>
>
> First child baptism in 1849 São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa (starts bottom 
> right)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1841-1855_item1/P179.html
>
>
> Second child baptism in 1852 Urzelina, São Jorge (Third on left)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855_item1/P82.html
>
>
> Second child’s obit in Urzelina a month later: (second on right)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1841-1858_item1/P41.html
>
>
> Third child’s baptism in 1854 in Urzelina (bottom left)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1855-1860_item1/P14.html
>
>
> Third child’s marriage in 1882 in Urzelina (left side)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html
>
>
> Wife’s obit in 1901 in Urzelina (bottom right)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911/SJR-VL-URZELINA-O-1900-1911_item1/P14.html
>
>
> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Pamela Hand]

Yes seems crazy but people did things for whatever reason and his tombstone
states that he was born at sea, western Azores. He came to Australia as an
adult and arrival documents state birthplace is Faial. Baptisms happened as
soon as possible so could be either nearest church to the port in Horta or
Lisbon depending on where the boat was headed? Any suggestions which
parish/freguesia closest to the ports in either place would be a starting
point.
Thanks

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 05:10, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Why would a woman that pregnant get on the boat if he was born off the
> coast of Faial? If she went into labor and they were off the coast, why
> didn't they turn back and drop the expectant parents off on Faial? The
> could have caught the next boat. Giving birth and getting seasick at the
> same time?!?! No thank you, I'd catch the next boat if I was that pregnant!
>
> If the story is true, I have no idea where Azorean births at sea would be
> recorded in 1838-1841. There was no official vital service record keeping.
> The records of that time period are mainly the Catholic Church. If he was
> born on a boat, they'd have to take the baby to a church to be baptized,
> which would be a Catholic Church in Australia.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:58 AM Pamela Hand 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anthony
>> Some of the Silver family researchers here in Australia believe that your
>> Joseph Da Silva was born at sea around 1838 to 1841 off the coast of Faial,
>> one of the western islands of the Azores. It is also suggested that records
>> for births at sea are kept in Lisbon.
>> Maybe Cheri or one of the group may know where these birth/baptism
>> records for births at sea would be recorded and how to access them. I am
>> guessing there would not be a lot of births at sea between 1838 and 1841,
>> and therefore could be a starting point for you to find your ancestors.
>> Hopefully someone can help.
>> Pam
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Anthony Silver <
>> anthony.silve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thankyou Cheri.
>>> hmm, that's something to really think about.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Cheri Mello 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 17 January 2020 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary
>>>
>>> Anthony S,
>>>
>>> You have to find out which island. It's just the way it is organized
>>> there. That's how they do their records. I don't know how it works in
>>> Australia, but I'm sure if I wrote to the main Australian government and
>>> said I want the birth certificate of my long lost cousin who went to
>>> Australia, they couldn't help me. I'm sure I'd need a location for them to
>>> pull a record for me. You need a location in the Azores.
>>>
>>> All occupations existed in the 1860s. Laborers, farmers, fisherman,
>>> servants, merchants, teachers, etc. No tech jobs, no electricians, no
>>> plumbers, as those things just didn't exist.
>>>
>>> I believe schooling was very limited and was only for the well to do.
>>> Schooling for the common people didn't start happening until sometime in
>>> the 1900s.
>>>
>>> You need to find every possible record that your immigrant ancestor may
>>> have left in Australia. You need at least an island. If you have exhausted
>>> that, then you will need to turn to DNA and you will need to test the
>>> oldest family members you can find and you will have to test multiple
>>> family members in order to get enough of your immigrant's DNA to figure out
>>> the puzzle.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza/Sousa Genealogy Help

[linda]

Hi Steve,

I'll help you learn to read the passport records.   The data and vocabulary 
are limited; all it just takes is a little practice.

***
Reading the Passport Lists:

Headings at the top of the page are

Passport Number;Date (Month, Day);  Name of Bearer;   Destination

The  information for each passport holder usually includes name, marital 
status, occupation, birth location, and age.  It may also include 
additional people traveling with in the care of the main passport holder.  
These may be dependent children, elderly parents; minor siblings or wives.

The passports seem mostly grouped by departing ship-- groups of passport 
holders all going to the same location.  In addition to place names, you 
will also see ditto marks such as

"
or 

~ " ~ 

or 

"Idem" which is Latin for "the same".   

It seems to me that US passengers sometimes state their final destination, 
such as California, or sometimes state their port of disembarkation, such 
as Boston.  So, I like to check all  the names on any US destination page, 
just in case.


**

I believe you're looking for an immigrant to the US, so my strategy would 
be to first scan the destinations looking for US locations.   

Passengers on [web] pages 8, 20, 52, 53, 59, 75, 102, 104 passengers are 
all going to Brasil-- mostly Rio de Janeiro.

Passengers on [web] page 101 are a mixed lot. They are mostly going to 
Brazil; some are going directly, but some are going indirectly via Lisbon; 
passport number 259 is going to the US by way of Faial ["Estados Unidos da 
America pela ilha da Fayal"].  

Let's look at a couple of the entries more closely.  The information 
generally follows a standard format.

page 101 #266:

Manuel de Sousa do Rigo
de 43 annos, casado, proprieta-
rio, natural de freguesia de S.
Sebastiao, d'esta ilha Terceira 

Translation:

Manuel de Sousa do Rigo
43 years [old], property owner
native of the village of S[ao]
Sebastiao, of this island of Terceira

This Manuel de Sousa is going to Rio de Janeiro [it says "Idem" beneath 
"Rio de Janeiro" in the destination column], and he's too old to be your 
Manuel.


Page 8 #55:
 
Manoel de Sousa Bor-
ges, casado, proprietario, 
natural da freguesia das
L?, d'esta ilha, de
71 annos.

Manoel de Sousa Borges,
married, property owner
native of the village of 
L?,  of this island,
71 years [old].

This Manuel Sousa is going to Rio de Janeiro, and he's 71, so he's not your 
Manuel either.

You did great in identifying a list of potential Manuel de Sousas, and 
you'll be able to go through the pages more quickly by scanning for US 
destinations, then narrowing the candidates down to those who are closer in 
age to your target Manuel de Sousa.

If you post a few more possible candidates, I'll be happy to have a look at 
them and help you to narrow the list.

best of luck in your research,

Linda


On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 8:51:02 AM UTC-8, Steve Stevens wrote:
>
> I know I sound screwed up, blame it on the drugs (have bronchitis and 
> taking cough syrup with codeine) but the information I have, even coming 
> from relatives, is screwed up. First of all my name, my grand parents 
> changed their name from Soza to Stevens 27 Feb 1924 believing that my great 
> grand father was actually an Estevez vice Soza. I have no idea how they got 
> there except a great uncle also mentioned it to a family member before he 
> died. So I never had a chance to be "right."
>
> The DNA test was a y-46 DNA test at Ancestry.com. Dyslexia runs in the 
> family. The test results which I have attached show Haplogroup R1b "The 
> Artisans" they say. You may use the data if you wish I have no intention 
> right now of paying for another subscription, just updated to Ancestry 
> World and have found that to be a waste for me.
>
> Searching the Passport site you provided, I looked through 1884 and 1885 
> as this seems to be the most often recorded years for his immigration and 
> found some that caught my eye, but need translation if you will:
>
> p.8 #55
> p.20 #181, 182
> p.52 #152
> p.53 #158
> p.59 #223
> p.75 #14
> p.101 #266
> p.102 #273
> p.104 #285
>
> Working my way through the whole book. Too bad someone didn't index this. 
> I would if I could read it better.
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Cheri Mello]

Why would a woman that pregnant get on the boat if he was born off the
coast of Faial? If she went into labor and they were off the coast, why
didn't they turn back and drop the expectant parents off on Faial? The
could have caught the next boat. Giving birth and getting seasick at the
same time?!?! No thank you, I'd catch the next boat if I was that pregnant!

If the story is true, I have no idea where Azorean births at sea would be
recorded in 1838-1841. There was no official vital service record keeping.
The records of that time period are mainly the Catholic Church. If he was
born on a boat, they'd have to take the baby to a church to be baptized,
which would be a Catholic Church in Australia.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:58 AM Pamela Hand  wrote:

> Hi Anthony
> Some of the Silver family researchers here in Australia believe that your
> Joseph Da Silva was born at sea around 1838 to 1841 off the coast of Faial,
> one of the western islands of the Azores. It is also suggested that records
> for births at sea are kept in Lisbon.
> Maybe Cheri or one of the group may know where these birth/baptism records
> for births at sea would be recorded and how to access them. I am guessing
> there would not be a lot of births at sea between 1838 and 1841, and
> therefore could be a starting point for you to find your ancestors.
> Hopefully someone can help.
> Pam
>
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Anthony Silver 
> wrote:
>
>> Thankyou Cheri.
>> hmm, that's something to really think about.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Cheri Mello 
>> *Sent:* Friday, 17 January 2020 3:04 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary
>>
>> Anthony S,
>>
>> You have to find out which island. It's just the way it is organized
>> there. That's how they do their records. I don't know how it works in
>> Australia, but I'm sure if I wrote to the main Australian government and
>> said I want the birth certificate of my long lost cousin who went to
>> Australia, they couldn't help me. I'm sure I'd need a location for them to
>> pull a record for me. You need a location in the Azores.
>>
>> All occupations existed in the 1860s. Laborers, farmers, fisherman,
>> servants, merchants, teachers, etc. No tech jobs, no electricians, no
>> plumbers, as those things just didn't exist.
>>
>> I believe schooling was very limited and was only for the well to do.
>> Schooling for the common people didn't start happening until sometime in
>> the 1900s.
>>
>> You need to find every possible record that your immigrant ancestor may
>> have left in Australia. You need at least an island. If you have exhausted
>> that, then you will need to turn to DNA and you will need to test the
>> oldest family members you can find and you will have to test multiple
>> family members in order to get enough of your immigrant's DNA to figure out
>> the puzzle.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Pamela Hand]

Hi Anthony
Some of the Silver family researchers here in Australia believe that your
Joseph Da Silva was born at sea around 1838 to 1841 off the coast of Faial,
one of the western islands of the Azores. It is also suggested that records
for births at sea are kept in Lisbon.
Maybe Cheri or one of the group may know where these birth/baptism records
for births at sea would be recorded and how to access them. I am guessing
there would not be a lot of births at sea between 1838 and 1841, and
therefore could be a starting point for you to find your ancestors.
Hopefully someone can help.
Pam

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Anthony Silver 
wrote:

> Thankyou Cheri.
> hmm, that's something to really think about.
>
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Cheri Mello 
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 January 2020 3:04 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary
>
> Anthony S,
>
> You have to find out which island. It's just the way it is organized
> there. That's how they do their records. I don't know how it works in
> Australia, but I'm sure if I wrote to the main Australian government and
> said I want the birth certificate of my long lost cousin who went to
> Australia, they couldn't help me. I'm sure I'd need a location for them to
> pull a record for me. You need a location in the Azores.
>
> All occupations existed in the 1860s. Laborers, farmers, fisherman,
> servants, merchants, teachers, etc. No tech jobs, no electricians, no
> plumbers, as those things just didn't exist.
>
> I believe schooling was very limited and was only for the well to do.
> Schooling for the common people didn't start happening until sometime in
> the 1900s.
>
> You need to find every possible record that your immigrant ancestor may
> have left in Australia. You need at least an island. If you have exhausted
> that, then you will need to turn to DNA and you will need to test the
> oldest family members you can find and you will have to test multiple
> family members in order to get enough of your immigrant's DNA to figure out
> the puzzle.
>
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
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