Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hi Amy, I hope this works http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalena&lang=pt&m=NG&n=antonio+simas+leal&t=PN Christine On Monday, January 14, 2013 6:22:44 PM UTC+10, Robert Ross wrote: > Hi Chris and Amy, > re: Jose Simas Leal (B. 1907) search on NEPS... > I compute my Gr Gr Grandfather Antonio Faria Costa (d. 9 Jan1884) with > Jose, successfully get a short path chart. Unfortunately, with illogical > entries between their generations. I mean some descendants seem to be born > before their ancestors. Maybe that is why the "Ancestors" and > "Relationships by marriage" searches show up as ERRORs. Good luck with YOUR > search, Bob > On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Chris Macedo > > wrote: > > oops! Amy, follow the address as given by Eric Edgar, I don't think mine > was complete. > christine > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:18:24 AM UTC+10, Chris Macedo wrote: > >> >> Amy, >> The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest >> city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can >> ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied >> for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring >> your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place >> of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of >> birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still >> the procedure. >> My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death >> cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a >> copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth >> certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by >> my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will >> learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, >> sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose >> Macedo. >> Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose >> Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from >> Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in >> Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. >> It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes >> most certainly have the DNA done. >> >> regards, >> Christine Macedo >> >> >> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >> >>> Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with >>> the Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this >>> side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best >>> place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has >>> used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de >>> Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas >>> ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here >>> say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite >>> possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere >>> in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there >>> anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? >>> >>> Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. >>> >>> Amy >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be >>>> able to help me. >>>> >>>> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >>>> unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or >>>> Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I >>>> think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could >>>> be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and >>>> left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I >>>> think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed >>>> from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this >>>> mean?). He lived in Australia for a whi
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
oops! Amy, follow the address as given by Eric Edgar, I don't think mine was complete. christine On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:18:24 AM UTC+10, Chris Macedo wrote: > > Amy, > The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest > city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can > ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied > for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring > your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place > of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of > birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still > the procedure. > My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death > cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a > copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth > certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by > my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will > learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, > sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose > Macedo. > Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose > Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from > Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in > Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. > It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes > most certainly have the DNA done. > > regards, > Christine Macedo > > > On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > >> Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with the >> Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this >> side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best >> place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has >> used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de >> Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas >> ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here >> say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite >> possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere >> in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there >> anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? >> >> Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. >> >> Amy >> >> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be >>> able to help me. >>> >>> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >>> unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or >>> Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I >>> think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could >>> be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and >>> left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I >>> think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed >>> from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this >>> mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver >>> Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose >>> Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de >>> Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. >>> >>> I am seeking any information about his life but particularly >>> information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents >>> or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this >>> information out. >>> >>> Anyone out there that can help me : >>> >>> Thanks >>> Amy >>> >> -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Amy, The University of Minho in Portugal and now the university of Porto seems to have joined with them has a wonderful project where they are mapping ( I don't know the correct term) the ancestry of the Azores. So, go to http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.ptthis will take you to the main website, Choose ilha do Pico (Pico Island) , then Madalena. This will take you into a database that will include persons born in Candelaria. type in Jose Simas Leal. there are so many persons with the same names in the Azores you always also need further info so go down the list of Jose Leal Simas until you find one born in 1907 this is my realitive. If you send me your full email address I will send you the relationship chart. I will try to help you all I can as others helped me when I joined this site. I haven't talked to Kevin Malloy (the historian i mentioned several emails ago) for a few years but if necessary i think I can find him if needed. but the Y- DNA and family finder is the best option at the moment. regards, Christine gandc...@bigpond.com On Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:22:37 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Thanks for your help. Sorry where do I find the database you refer too. I > am very new to this. > > Thank you > Amy > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:18:24 AM UTC+13, Chris Macedo wrote: > >> >> Amy, >> The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest >> city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can >> ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied >> for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring >> your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place >> of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of >> birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still >> the procedure. >> My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death >> cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a >> copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth >> certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by >> my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will >> learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, >> sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose >> Macedo. >> Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose >> Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from >> Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in >> Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. >> It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes >> most certainly have the DNA done. >> >> regards, >> Christine Macedo >> >> >> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >> >>> Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with >>> the Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this >>> side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best >>> place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has >>> used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de >>> Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas >>> ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here >>> say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite >>> possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere >>> in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there >>> anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? >>> >>> Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. >>> >>> Amy >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be >>>> able to help me. >>>> >>>> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >>>> unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or >>>> Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I >>>> think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could >>>> be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Amy, The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still the procedure. My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose Macedo. Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes most certainly have the DNA done. regards, Christine Macedo On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with the > Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this > side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best > place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has > used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de > Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas > ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here > say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite > possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere > in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there > anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? > > Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. > > Amy > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be >> able to help me. >> >> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >> unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or >> Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I >> think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could >> be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and >> left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I >> think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed >> from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this >> mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver >> Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose >> Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de >> Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. >> >> I am seeking any information about his life but particularly >> information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents >> or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this >> information out. >> >> Anyone out there that can help me : >> >> Thanks >> Amy >> > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS site
Robert, I also have a relationship with your ancestors. Your ancestor Roque Faria Costa is in the Madalena/PICO DB and his relationship to my ggrandfather Joao Andrade Macedo is easy to see. The Lajes relatioship is slightly more difficult to pin down but my ancestors are definetly related to your although i need to work more to sort it out. Christine Macedo On Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:15:05 PM UTC+10, Robert Ross wrote: > Carol, > I've had the same problem for a couple of weeks. Exactly the same town, > too. I miss the relationship calculator mostly. It's quite a "longshot", > but I will send four branches of my grandfather's tree that I downloaded as > PDFs before the system went down. Bob Ross bob.r...@gmail.com > > On Nov 14, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Carol Warnock wrote: > > Deb-- > I have been having the same problem for almost two weeks now. I don't > know what the problem is. A cousin of mine, when she saw my post on the > Azores Genealogy site, suggested that maybe they are just updating the NEPS > websire--which I suppose is possible. > I was trying to access Pico and then Lajes do Pico. > > Carol Silva Warnock > Researching Madruga, Silva, Monteiro & Vieira--all Lajes do Pico; Madruga > & Monteiro also on Terceira. > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Deb McCabe > > wrote: > >> I haven't been able to access the NEPS site all week. I keep an error >> message. Are others having problems? >> >> Deb(looking4roots51) >> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation >> directions when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation > directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Hello Amy, Have you got your ggrandfather's death cert. from NZ?. This should give his place of birth. If you don't have it then that is where you should start. My ggrandfather was born in the Azores then he travelled to NZ. I was lucky in that a post doctural History student from Victoria University in NZ was doing part of his post doc research on my ggrandfather. This man went on to become the Librarian in charge of archives for the state of Victoria in Australia. I don't know if he is still there but if you get really stuck you could contact him and see if he can give you a pathway to finding your ancestors. I will give you his name if you email me. Good luck. Christine Macedo On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:43:25 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hi All, > > I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be > able to help me. > > My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is > unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or > Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I > think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could > be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and > left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I > think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed > from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this > mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver > Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose > Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de > Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. > > I am seeking any information about his life but particularly > information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents > or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this > information out. > > Anyone out there that can help me : > > Thanks > Amy > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Family Finder Match
Hi, I have recently had a DNA match with a member of this group. The ancestors we share are Jose Macedo Brum da Silveira b. 1766 Lajes do Pico whose descendants live in America., and his brother Manuel Macedo Brum da Silveira b1763 Lajes do Pico and died in Brazil. Manuel married Ana Maria da Assuncao b. Brazil d. Brazil. Ana Maria is an ancestor of mine through the emigration of her grandfather Estevao Rosa +1721 from Pico to Brazil. The common ancestors of Jose and Manuel must be their parents Manuel de Madruga 1735-1809 and Maria de Brum 1733?? or ancestors of their parents. I thought this would be straight forward but there is conflicting data on the parents of Maria de Brum b 1733??. If anyone has any original documentation on this family I would really appreciate any clarification. Thanks, Christine Lee Macedo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Lopes da Fonseca
Thank you Valdenai, I will work on the decsendants of both Antonio Lopes da Fonseca (from Terceira and Joao Fonseca b. about 1475 in Lagoa, Portugal and see if I can find the connection to Francisco Lopes da Fonseca. As you have them in your descendants of Beatriz Macedo I will see if I can work it out. And thnk you Celeste, it is great the way we all connect up over and over again. It helps when the direct route is not apparent at first. The daughter of Francisco Lopes da Fonseca is Inez Pereira m Francisco Costa Goulart 15.1.1710. at Sao Mateus (ref. UMinho database, Sao Mateus). In the Antipassados de Joao Andrade Macedo (my gg grandfather) she is listed as Ines Pereira Macedo m. Francisco Costa Goulat 15.1.1710 at Sao Mateus (ref. UMinho, Madelena database). My aunt who was brought up by her grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo and was a very very well educated person wrote that this family came from Terceira. Hence I am trying to connect Francisco Lopes da Fonseca back to there and Antonio Lopes da Fonseca but when???. So many of these family conections are eventually to be found via Brazil or Faial. There are enough connections to make me sure I am on the right track, but any input from anyone is very welcome. I guess put very simply I am fishing. Christine Macedo Lee Topic: Francisco Lopes da Fonseca On Aug 4, 1:29 pm, "Gayle Machado" wrote: > Christine, > > I descend from Francisco and Appelonia, but I don't have either of their > earlier lines. I have them originating from Lages and settling in Sao Mateus. > I descend through two of their children- Appelonia (wife of Manuel Furtado > Costa) and Catherina (who married Matheus Machado Ferreira.) If you find an > answer to your question, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know. Good luck > with your search. > > Gayle Machado > > Researching Pico- Candelaria, Sao Mateus, and Sao Joao.-Original > Message- > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Chris Macedo > Sent: Mon 8/2/2010 5:28 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > > Cc: gandc...@bigpond.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca > > Francisco Lopes Fonseca b. S. Mateus,Pico d.1718 > married Apolonia das Candias d.1718 > > I have met a 'roadblock trying to connect these two back to > > Antonio Lopes da Fonseca b. Terceira c.1435 ( very rough date) > m. Margarida de Ornellas da Camara b.? > > parents of Margarida were > Pedro Goncalves de Camara ca. 1460 > Catarina de Ornellas de Saaveidra ca. 1470 > > parents of Pedro > Joao goncalves da Camara ca.1430 > Meccia de Noronha ca 1440 > > parents of Joao > Joao Goncalves Zargo ca. 1380- 1467 > Constanca Rodrigues Almeida de Sa ca. 1394 - 1485 > > I think most of these people were born in Angra do Heroismo. > > they are listed as ancestors of my ancestor Aldina Rosa Do Coracao de > Jesus b. 23 Sept 1822 > S.Mateus, ilha do Pico. Also listed among her ancestors is > > Joao Fonseca b. 1435 Lagos, Algarve, Portugal > married to ??? > > with > Goncolo Annes da Fonseca b. about 1475 Lagos, Portugal > m.Mecia de Andrade Machedo b. about 1487 > > somewhere this family went to Terceira (Angra do Hirismo) > and also ties into my family. > > This is consistant with the informtion I received from my g. > grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo > via my aunt. > > Is there anyone who can trace these people to Francisco Lopes da > Fonseca??. > I would be so grateful. I am hoping that someone might aready have the > information. > > Christine Macedo Lee > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > winmail.dat > 5KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Lopes da Fonseca
Hi I hope I get this in the right place. yesterday I replied but it went under just the heading Azores Google groups Abridged... so i did some thing wrong. Sorry Cheri. Gayle, I think there are computer gliches with these people. they appear in 4 places that I have found in the UMinho database. First, the Salao, Faial and Cedros, Faial databases. Both places have them with the Da i.e Francisco Lopes Da Fonseca, there is no birthplace given in the Salao database. The Cedros Faial database says they were born in Lajes,Pico. The Lajes database does not acknowledge them at all and the Sao Mateus database says they were born there. I have had the same kind of problem tracing Ines Pereira Macedo but am convinced that the Ines given in the Sao Mateus database is her. If you look at the page for Francisco Costa Goulartthen look up his (2nd) wife, Ines Pereira has parents Francisco Lopes Fonseca and Apolonia Candias. If you go to the Madelena database then the parents of Ines Pereira Macedo are not given but her husband and date of marriage to Francisco Costa Goulart is the same as the Ines Pereira in Sao Mateus. I note that you spelled her name Apelonia and I have recently seen that in one of the databases but can't find it now. My posting yesterday is probably relevant to all this so I will try to "snip" it out of it's amonomous place and repost it under this heading but if I don't get it right perhaps ypu could find it in yesterdays postings. Tomorrow morning I start chemotheraphy and may not be well enough to post any more for a while but I will try to look at the postings. On Aug 4, 1:29 pm, "Gayle Machado" wrote: > Christine, > > I descend from Francisco and Appelonia, but I don't have either of their > earlier lines. I have them originating from Lages and settling in Sao Mateus. > I descend through two of their children- Appelonia (wife of Manuel Furtado > Costa) and Catherina (who married Matheus Machado Ferreira.) If you find an > answer to your question, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know. Good luck > with your search. > > Gayle Machado > > Researching Pico- Candelaria, Sao Mateus, and Sao Joao. > > > > -Original Message- > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Chris Macedo > Sent: Mon 8/2/2010 5:28 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > > Cc: gandc...@bigpond.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca > > Francisco Lopes Fonseca b. S. Mateus,Pico d.1718 > married Apolonia das Candias d.1718 > > I have met a 'roadblock trying to connect these two back to > > Antonio Lopes da Fonseca b. Terceira c.1435 ( very rough date) > m. Margarida de Ornellas da Camara b.? > > parents of Margarida were > Pedro Goncalves de Camara ca. 1460 > Catarina de Ornellas de Saaveidra ca. 1470 > > parents of Pedro > Joao goncalves da Camara ca.1430 > Meccia de Noronha ca 1440 > > parents of Joao > Joao Goncalves Zargo ca. 1380- 1467 > Constanca Rodrigues Almeida de Sa ca. 1394 - 1485 > > I think most of these people were born in Angra do Heroismo. > > they are listed as ancestors of my ancestor Aldina Rosa Do Coracao de > Jesus b. 23 Sept 1822 > S.Mateus, ilha do Pico. Also listed among her ancestors is > > Joao Fonseca b. 1435 Lagos, Algarve, Portugal > married to ??? > > with > Goncolo Annes da Fonseca b. about 1475 Lagos, Portugal > m.Mecia de Andrade Machedo b. about 1487 > > somewhere this family went to Terceira (Angra do Hirismo) > and also ties into my family. > > This is consistant with the informtion I received from my g. > grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo > via my aunt. > > Is there anyone who can trace these people to Francisco Lopes da > Fonseca??. > I would be so grateful. I am hoping that someone might aready have the > information. > > Christine Macedo Lee > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > > winmail.dat > 5KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca
Francisco Lopes Fonseca b. S. Mateus,Pico d.1718 married Apolonia das Candias d.1718 I have met a 'roadblock trying to connect these two back to Antonio Lopes da Fonseca b. Terceira c.1435 ( very rough date) m. Margarida de Ornellas da Camara b.? parents of Margarida were Pedro Goncalves de Camara ca. 1460 Catarina de Ornellas de Saaveidra ca. 1470 parents of Pedro Joao goncalves da Camara ca.1430 Meccia de Noronha ca 1440 parents of Joao Joao Goncalves Zargo ca. 1380- 1467 Constanca Rodrigues Almeida de Sa ca. 1394 - 1485 I think most of these people were born in Angra do Heroismo. they are listed as ancestors of my ancestor Aldina Rosa Do Coracao de Jesus b. 23 Sept 1822 S.Mateus, ilha do Pico. Also listed among her ancestors is Joao Fonseca b. 1435 Lagos, Algarve, Portugal married to ??? with Goncolo Annes da Fonseca b. about 1475 Lagos, Portugal m.Mecia de Andrade Machedo b. about 1487 somewhere this family went to Terceira (Angra do Hirismo) and also ties into my family. This is consistant with the informtion I received from my g. grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo via my aunt. Is there anyone who can trace these people to Francisco Lopes da Fonseca??. I would be so grateful. I am hoping that someone might aready have the information. Christine Macedo Lee -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Blood Groups
I can answer your questions generally . The ABO blood groups and the Rh (D) blood groups are not connected. They are the most common of the blood groups tested because they cause the biggest transfusion reactions. Roughly 47% of Caucasians are Group O 41% of Caucasians are Group A 09% " Group B 03% " Group AB The Rh group derive their name from the Rhesus monkey in which they were first found. When we say Rh Negative that is only part of the story. I.e only the D out of CDE are tested for. When you are tokd you are Rh negative you are Rh (D) Negative. This is understood by all persons working with blood groups. Roughly 75% of Caucasians are Rh (D) Positive 25% are Rh (D) Negative There were no Rh Negatives among Asian, Polynesian or Mealaneaian populations but we ALWAYS tested these people in case they were of mixed blood and did not know it. I think from the dim recesses of my mind I remember the Basques having a higher percentage of Rh (D) negatives. Unless a person was D negative we did not test the whole Allele of which there are many combinations e.g cdE/cde. Apart from transfusion treatment the main danger of antibody formation in negative women during pregnancy has been overcome by the ability of doctors now to give an antiserun which blocks the troublesome antigens thus preventing antibody formation and eliminating the dreadful Rh disease of pregnancy we used to see. Wether there is a higher incidence of Rh negatives among Azoreans I do not know. Certainly my own daughter is B Rh Negative. this is very quick and i hope it is of some use. Christine Macedo Lee -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: History of Azores's book
Susana, Where can overseas persons purchase your book online ??. I would very much like to read it. Christine Macedo On Jul 26, 9:20 pm, sgoulart wrote: > I've seen an information of my book in your site. You can check it > below. I' d like very much to have some critics about my > interpretaton of Azores history. > > Sincerely > > Susana Goulart Costa > > http://historiadosacores.t35.comhttp://azores-history.t35.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hell All, Celeste, your file oped o.k for me. thanks. Pam you would have at least some of the same Brazil people as I have. I was lucky and came across a site http://www.jcultura.com.br/gde_fam/ this has given me a wealth of information. I recognised person no 1. on this family tree as an uncle (g.g.x?) that my aunt had told me about when i was a child. since then I have found several definite people on the site. one who would tie in with you is Estevao Rosa b. 1721 S. Mateus m Maria Antonia. It seems they went to Brazil ESTEVA ROSA B. S. MATEUS 1721 | MARIA TERESA DE JESUS (PEREIRA MACEDO) personal communication with Rod Brum de Silva. | ANA MARIA DA ASSUNCAO | FRANCISCO PERIERA DE MACEDO +1888 (info on wikapedia) (1st baron & viscount of Serro Formosa). FRANCISCA ROMANA DE MACEDO 26.1.1796 - 11.8.1869 | MARIA JOSE DE MACEDO COUTO 18.22- 8.12.1889 m JOAO EVANGELISTA DE NEGREIROS SAYAO LOBATO (Vicount Sabara) FRANCISCO DE PAULA DE NEGREIROS SAYAO LOBATO Chief justice of Brazil. this is just some of what i have been able to determine. I also have other info. So you may be able to find some of your line and so might Bob as there are a number of Evangelistas. i know that there are other Azoreans sprinkled in all this lot, e.g MANOEL DE MACEDO MADRUGA b. Pico d.5.6.1810 R.S. | MANOEL DE MACEDO BRUM SILVEIRA b.1760 PICO d.16.11.1816 R.S Unfortunately this site is difficult to navigate and it has taken me ages to piece things together. I have lots more but am out of time now. I hope it is of interest and fills some holes. I just wish I spoke Portugese. regards, christine On Apr 4, 2:56 am, fuji...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Hi Christine, > > Ignes Pereira Macedo and Francisco Costa Goulart are also my 5th great- > grandparents on my grandmother's side. My line is from their daughter > Rita Inacia Macedo who is Catharina sister. Like you, I also can't > find anything about Francisco or Apolonia. > > Francisco Costa Goulart is also on my grandfathers line, when he was > married to Catherina Dias Machado. Their daughter Maria Gularte > married Manuel Costa Medeiros in Candelaria in 1721. > > I'm also interested in the Brazil information. I'm just starting my > Step-Dad's family. His mother Ana Jesus was born in Brazil and moved > with her parents Antonio Silveira Machado and Ana Jesus to > Ribeirinha,Terceira. Ana married Antone Machado Coelho in Ribeirinha > before they immigrated to California. I have very little > information because my dad's mother died when he was a young boy. > > Regards, > > Pam Coelho > fuji...@sbcglobal.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hello Maria Elena, Celeste, Nancy Jean and Bob Thank you all so very much for your information.It will take me a while to digest it. Bob who were your Pico Macedos? I have noticed that the names seem to change in Brazil. could Evangelho have become Evangelista or are they different. Celeste, is anything at all known of the history of the Fonseca family. Could they originally have come from Terceira? My aunt told me the family originally came from Portugal to Terceira. Maybe I will yet get a match to the Macedo DNA my cousin Peter Macedo supplied. Thank you all again. I do just love what this site turns up, and I will follow it up. very best regards to all, christine On Apr 2, 7:29 am, celeste perry wrote: > Hi Chris, > I have an Agueda Ascencao, born June 4, 1696 in Sao Mateus, Pico and > married Aug. 9, 1711 in Sao Mateus,Pico, to Domingos Rosa who is a brother of > Manuel Rosa Pais, born April 15, 1685, in Sao Mateo, Pico who is an ancestor > of my husband's paternal grandfather, Felipe Perreira da Silva, born in Lajes > do Pico Feb. 5, 1887. > Agueda Ascencao is the daughter of Francisco Lopes Fonseca, born Sao > Mateus, Pico, and died there in 1718 (according to the UM site) and Apolonia > Candeias also born in Sao Mateus and died 1718 (according to the UM site). > You might look in Sao Mateus, Pico for your family. > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Chris Macedo wrote: > > From: Chris Macedo > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 6:02 AM > > Hello Nancy Jean, > Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my > g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and > grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira > Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct > line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and > is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of > the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both > died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were > in the Castelo Branco database, > This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family > came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores. I > would love to hear anything you can tell me. > > best regards. > > Christine > > On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste > wrote:> Hi Christine, > > > I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. > > Perhaps there is a connection. > > > > > > > Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764 > > > son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros > > > b.1718 > > > also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748 > > > son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716 > > > Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, > 1-15-1710 > > > Regards, > > > Nancy Jean Baptiste > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700 > > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil > > > From: gandc...@bigpond.com > > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your > > > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao > > > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the > > > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had > relatives in > > > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there. > > > > Christine > > > > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine, > > > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico. > > > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make > dinner for $10 or > > > > less. > > (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) > > > _ > > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > > Hotmail®.http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TX... > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hello Nancy Jean, Yes, I am so pleased to find another cousin, Ines Pereira Macedo is my g.g.g.g.g.grandmother and the others are her children and grandchildren as I guess you know. Catharina Nascimento (Pereira Macedo) is also the daughter of Ines Pereira Macedo and is my direct line but the name has been entered diferently in various databases and is hard to track. The name of Ines's parents appears in a couple of the databases as Francisco Lopes da Fonseca and Apolonia Candias, both died In 1717. they do not appear in the Candelaria database but were in the Castelo Branco database, This is where the Macedo line vanishes and my aunt told me the family came from Portugal but I'm sure there were relatives in the Azores. I would love to hear anything you can tell me. best regards. Christine On Apr 1, 3:04 am, nancy jean baptiste wrote: > Hi Christine, > > I also have a few Macedos married into my in Candelaria, Pico line. Perhaps > there is a connection. > > Jose Rodrigues Medeiros Macedo...b. 8-3-1764 > > son of Rita Inacia Macedo b. 1728 d. 1812 and Jose Rodrigues Medeiros > > b.1718 > > also have a Jose Rodrigues Macedo Siveira b. 9-27-1748 > > son of Rosa Francisca Macedo b.1715 and Jose Rodriguesn Costa b.1716 > > Ines Pereira Macedo b. in Lajes, Pico...married Francisco Costa Goulart, > 1-15-1710 > > Regards, > > Nancy Jean Baptiste > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:51:24 -0700 > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil > > From: gandc...@bigpond.com > > To: Azores@googlegroups.com > > > Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your > > Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao > > Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the > > mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in > > the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there. > > > Christine > > > On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Maria Elena & Christine, > > > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico. > > > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for > > > $10 or > > > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) > > _ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > Hotmail®.http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TX...- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Bob, Thank you, I will use your sites and also keep in mind what you have said about researchers. I will see if I can get any reliable contacts with researchers while I am there. thanks again. christine On Mar 30, 1:02 am, bobcams...@aol.com wrote: > Hi Christine > > I to have been looking for way to find information on family members as my > Evangelho and da Costa members to Brazil and I have had family member born > and > married there but have not had any luck on locating people to help. I was > told some time ago there was few people that do research in Rio de Janeiro > area. I have e-mail this person several times but have had not reply from > them. > This persons address is _dal...@orchidstudium.com_ > (mailto:dal...@orchidstudium.com) and he provided me some information on > church down in Rio, here is > that information; This is a link to the church you look for: > > _http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm_ > (http://www.outeirodagloria.org.br/historia.htm) > > The record books must be at the archdiocesis archives of Rio de Janeiro. > Address: Rua dos Arcos, 54 - Lapa > 20230-060 - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - phone 2240-2669 > Diretor: Côn. Aroldo da Silva Ribeiro > Arquivista: Aloysio de Oliveira Martins Filho > de segunda a quarta-feira de 14:00h às 17:00h. > > _http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/_(http://www.arquidiocese.org.br/) > > Again my problem I had is that no one would reply to me after several > e-mails and writing and like you I do not speak or write Portuguese either. > There > is also a Brazilian Genealogy group, but the down side with the group is they > write everything in Portuguese, if you like I can provide you the > information on there link. > Thanks > > Bob Camacho > Researching the Island of Terceira for > da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera > Researching the Island of Graciousa for > Reis > Researching the Island of Madeira for > Camacho > Researching Brazil for > Evangelho > > **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?red... > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hello, I don't know your name but would love to hear about your Macedos from Pico. Mine were from Candelaria and before that Sao Mateus and Lajes. My family history tells me that they came from the mainland in about 1750 but I'm sure that they already had relatives in the Azores as some of the history goes back much much further there. Christine On Mar 30, 9:01 am, seekg...@aol.com wrote: > Hi Maria Elena & Christine, > I also have MACEDO'S from Pico. > **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores/Mainland to Brazil
Hi Maria, I would be most grateful if you could talk to your daughter in law for me. Also I noticed in one of your previous postings that you had ancestors who went to the N.S.W. goldfields in Australia. My G.Grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo also went to the N.S.W. goldfields after visiting relatives in Brazil. I don't know exactly when, but I could probably find out. He then went to New Zealand and after that to Argentina. He left a son in N.Z. (my grandfather) but took his granddaughter to Argentina along with his daughters. It is this family in Argentina that I am going to visit, before going on to Rio. At least some of the realitives in Brazil were from the Azores ( at least one from Pico that I know of ) and some from Sao Miguel and a descendant was Francisco Pereira Macedo 1806-1888, 1st Viscount of Serro Formosa. His daughter was Maria Jose De Macedo Couto 1822 -1889 (from Sao Miguel I think). Maria married Joao Evangelista de Negreiros Sayao Lobato, Viscount Sabara. Their son was Francisco de Paulo Negrois Sayao Lobato, Cheif Justice of Brazil. There is very little else I know, Does any of this tie in with your daughter in law?. Another ancestor is Nicolau Pereira do Campos Verugiro, died 1859, who was born in Macedo de Cavaleiros in Portugal and became a Brazilian senator. Christine On Mar 30, 12:31 am, Maria Lima wrote: > Hi, Christine, > > I am writing because I noticed your Macedo name and the Azores to Brazil, > connection with my daughter in law. She is from Rio and is a Macedo on the > maternal side. > > I will forward your email to her. Perhaps they might know where you could > research. or hopefully there could be some connection. > > Regards, > > Maria Elena --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores/Mainland to Brazil
I have been able to find some information on ancestors who went from the Azores/Portugal to Brazil but I would be grateful to know if there is a website which specifically deals with this subject. My family history tells me that my g grandfather had several uncles or g.uncles who settled in Brazil and became members of the Brazillian Senate. I will be in Rio de Janeiro in several weeks and will stay one week. I would be most grateful if anyone can tell me which libraries or museums to search there. I don't speak Portugese. thank you, Christine Macedo Lee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Macedo - Machedo
Hi' Kathy, I typed in Joao Macedo, Only, for the reason that I was typing from a list of Inez Pereira Macedo's descentants printed from the UMinho Magdalena site and Joao's listing was there under Macedo but none of his children. I think the Andrade Macedo combination is part of the computer problem but typing in Jose Macedo or Joao Macedo should not bring up a list of Machedo's like it did. I had an email several months ago from a lady in the U.S (who has not replied to my answer to her) she said " I know that Machedo is a varient of Macedo".Consequently I don't like to see this happening. Christine On Oct 24, 2:38 pm, Kathy Cardoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christine > > I just went and looked and still find Joao Andrade Macedo, our 2GG, > listed there as well as his children (without their surnames, of > course.) Are you searching the Madalena page? > > Kathy > * > Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: > http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html > * > > On Oct 23, 2008, at 7:50 PM, George & Christine Lee wrote: > > > > > Are there any UMinho people who read this website??. My Macedo > > ancestors, specifically my ggrandfather Jose b. 1840 and his father > > Joao b.1806 and I dont know how many more Macedos are not coming up > > on the Candelaria/Pico webpage, just a list of Machedos. This is the > > second time my family tree has been choped down. It's happening to > > Macedos on other webpages too e.g the Sao Mateus page. > > > I do not want my family obliterated by a computer. It's scary. > > > Christine Macedo- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re Guill's book
Yes, wow, when I bid for Celest's book several months ago there were 3 books listed on 2nd hand sites but when I went to put an order in they were gone. From memory they were around $350. I am so concious of the fact that that book took 45 years of work for 3 people, to me it is a real masterpeice which only a well trained and qualified historian could have attempted to write. I hope that Guill's familly got a good return for the book, it is a constant referance book for me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
