Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Got my mtDNA Results
Cheri: Thanks. We are leaving for a cruise. I won't be returning until late on 4/26. We can always talk after that. Joe On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I get back home from the conference in Salt Lake, I will contact you. Cheri On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: This may be a question for Cheri to answer for me. I got my mtDNA full sequence results today. A bit overwhelming for me to try to interpret them. There were 17 possible matches listed for me for the HVR1, HVR2, Coding Region, one of whom is a lady from Italy who is an exact match, one has a genetic distance of 2, and the fifteen people have a genetic distance of 3. Looks like I'm part of Haplogroup 18. Can someone help me interpret this? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/Jv7_cDYxTlM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Got my mtDNA Results
This may be a question for Cheri to answer for me. I got my mtDNA full sequence results today. A bit overwhelming for me to try to interpret them. There were 17 possible matches listed for me for the HVR1, HVR2, Coding Region, one of whom is a lady from Italy who is an exact match, one has a genetic distance of 2, and the fifteen people have a genetic distance of 3. Looks like I'm part of Haplogroup 18. Can someone help me interpret this? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)
He was from Sao Miguel. On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, aportu...@yahoo.com wrote: Joseph, Please, which island are your Francisco Furtados from? My 4th great grandfather Francisco Furtado married to Maria Jacintha is from Pedro Miguel, Faial or I should say, their son, Francisco Furtado was born there. I show a birth date for him of 12 March 1786 (I do not have proof of this date yet.) Thanks for your time, Sam in Mazatlán, MX Sent from Windows Mail From: Joseph Costa Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Shirley Allegre There two couples but they are distinct. 1)Francisco Furtado (my 2nd great grandfather) x Maria Jacinta -- married 15 Dec 1856. 2) Francisco Furtado (my 4th great grandfather and the grandfather of the 1st one) x Maria Jacinta (this is the couple that Shirley is talking about) -- he was born in 1776 and she in 1778. They married each other on Nov 29, 1796. The only child I have listed is Manuel (my 3rd great grandfather). I haven't found their other children. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/dLtJN3U5x20/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)
There two couples but they are distinct. 1)Francisco Furtado (my 2nd great grandfather) x Maria Jacinta -- married 15 Dec 1856. 2) Francisco Furtado (my 4th great grandfather and the grandfather of the 1st one) x Maria Jacinta (this is the couple that Shirley is talking about) -- he was born in 1776 and she in 1778. They married each other on Nov 29, 1796. The only child I have listed is Manuel (my 3rd great grandfather). I haven't found their other children. On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's what I have. So it seems there are two couples by the same name of Francisco Furtado with Maria Jacinta, about the same period. I gave Joseph the line I have, but now that you have raised it, he is going to have to verify which couple is his ancestor. JR On Monday, March 31, 2014 5:30:01 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote: Does anyone know if Francisco Furtado X Maria Jacinta had a daughter MEGUELINA DE JESUS ROSA that married a JOSE ANTONIO DE MEDEIROS in Ribeira Quente, on 17 July 1843 Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862) Hi all. I’m looking to see if anyone has any information on my great grandmother’s ancestry. Here is her information: Júlia da Encarnaçao b. 22 Mar 1862 at Ribeira Quente to Francisco Furtado and Maria Jacinta; m. Jose da Costa 24 Jan 1889, Matriz (Note: I have Jose’s ancestry. I’m just looking for Julia’s). Thanks for any help you can offer! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/dLtJN3U5x20/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)
p.s. the couple from the 1700s were both born and married at Ponta Garça - NS de Piedade. On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's what I have. So it seems there are two couples by the same name of Francisco Furtado with Maria Jacinta, about the same period. I gave Joseph the line I have, but now that you have raised it, he is going to have to verify which couple is his ancestor. JR On Monday, March 31, 2014 5:30:01 PM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote: Does anyone know if Francisco Furtado X Maria Jacinta had a daughter MEGUELINA DE JESUS ROSA that married a JOSE ANTONIO DE MEDEIROS in Ribeira Quente, on 17 July 1843 Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862) Hi all. I’m looking to see if anyone has any information on my great grandmother’s ancestry. Here is her information: Júlia da Encarnaçao b. 22 Mar 1862 at Ribeira Quente to Francisco Furtado and Maria Jacinta; m. Jose da Costa 24 Jan 1889, Matriz (Note: I have Jose’s ancestry. I’m just looking for Julia’s). Thanks for any help you can offer! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/dLtJN3U5x20/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)
You rock, JR! On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:57 AM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: I have that line. Will send when I get home later. I received from Richard M. Years ago. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/dLtJN3U5x20/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDA MTdna sale
Ok. So, a couple of weeks ago, I ordered three tests: 1) the Family Finder, 2) Y-DNA37 markers, and 3) mt-DNA Plus. Does anyone think there is any value to my doing one of these discounted upgrades they are offering? On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:13:32 AM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote: Family Tree DNA is having a sale on its mtDNA (Maternal line) $139. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio da Costa Piquete lineage
Thanks Dan. I sent you an email privately. Did you get it? I would like
to purchase a copy of this book if possible. Otherwise, I will try to find
it at a library.
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:14:01 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote:
I tried posting this twice but I guess we've reached the limit in your
original thread, Joseph. What I was trying to communicate to you was that
after we finished working on Joam, I turned to some other research. While
looking for another individual named Costa, I came across the name above.
My question to you was whether you had access to one of the essential tools
for anyone researching Sao Miguel and Santa Maria. It is a book entitled
*Genealogias
de S.Miguel e Santa Maria, written by Rodrigo Rodrigues. *As I mentioned
above, I came across your 6GGF's name in a genealogy dating back to the
early days of Sao Miguel. The reference to your ancestor is in a section
entitled Da Descendancia de Francisco Anes, Da Praia. I you can gain access
to the book, the reference can be found in {v1,c8,p173.} This a big
discovery!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)
Hi all. I’m looking to see if anyone has any information on my great grandmother’s ancestry. Here is her information: Júlia da Encarnaçao b. 22 Mar 1862 at Ribeira Quente to Francisco Furtado and Maria Jacinta; m. Jose da Costa 24 Jan 1889, Matriz (Note: I have Jose’s ancestry. I’m just looking for Julia’s). Thanks for any help you can offer! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Dano: Yes, this is very exciting. I can't wait to see the packet that Shirley is going to mail me. I truly appreciate everyone's help! I actually found Joam yesterday. Sorry, I think that it keeps getting lost in this thread. Here is his birth record from Matriz, Jul 16, 1748: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, I'm happy that we could provide you with at least one branch of your family tree (Jacome Raposo dating back to circa 1525). Antonio Jacome Raposo is Josefa's father, and, from there the puzzle was complete. I was in the process of printing the report when I happened to see that Shirley had already done so. It took a little while but we eventually all got on the same page (thanks to Margaret). BTW, I also found Matheus' and Josefa's marriage - 19-Jul-1736 (PG) + the first four of the couple's children, also from PG - Jozeph -1737, Anna -1739, Anna-1742, Antonia-1746 and, of course, the nearly unreadable Nicolau (in 1751). Unfortunately, Joam wasn't among them in Ponta Garca. I will try Arcanjo Sao Miguel next. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52:34 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate this! On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.net wrote: Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it to you. I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM and where. At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June 1748in SM-VFDC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say you have on the Antonio Jacome Raposo family going way back in time. As far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, Joam born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. He is who I originally started this thread about. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Dano: Also, regarding the children of Matheus and Jozefa, I do not have have some of the children that you mention. Could you post a listing of all of them and their full dates of birth/location of birth? On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Dano: Yes, this is very exciting. I can't wait to see the packet that Shirley is going to mail me. I truly appreciate everyone's help! I actually found Joam yesterday. Sorry, I think that it keeps getting lost in this thread. Here is his birth record from Matriz, Jul 16, 1748: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, I'm happy that we could provide you with at least one branch of your family tree (Jacome Raposo dating back to circa 1525). Antonio Jacome Raposo is Josefa's father, and, from there the puzzle was complete. I was in the process of printing the report when I happened to see that Shirley had already done so. It took a little while but we eventually all got on the same page (thanks to Margaret). BTW, I also found Matheus' and Josefa's marriage - 19-Jul-1736 (PG) + the first four of the couple's children, also from PG - Jozeph -1737, Anna -1739, Anna-1742, Antonia-1746 and, of course, the nearly unreadable Nicolau (in 1751). Unfortunately, Joam wasn't among them in Ponta Garca. I will try Arcanjo Sao Miguel next. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52:34 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate this! On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.net wrote: Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it to you. I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM and where. At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June 1748in SM-VFDC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say you have on the Antonio Jacome Raposo family going way back in time. As far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, Joam born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. He is who I originally started this thread about. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
And I think we determined that Nicolau does not belong to Matheus and Jozefa. The father of Nicolau is Matias, not Matheus, and the mother is another Jozefa. I believe that in the thread above, you said that the Nicolau descends from another family member. On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Dano: Also, regarding the children of Matheus and Jozefa, I do not have have some of the children that you mention. Could you post a listing of all of them and their full dates of birth/location of birth? On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Dano: Yes, this is very exciting. I can't wait to see the packet that Shirley is going to mail me. I truly appreciate everyone's help! I actually found Joam yesterday. Sorry, I think that it keeps getting lost in this thread. Here is his birth record from Matriz, Jul 16, 1748: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, I'm happy that we could provide you with at least one branch of your family tree (Jacome Raposo dating back to circa 1525). Antonio Jacome Raposo is Josefa's father, and, from there the puzzle was complete. I was in the process of printing the report when I happened to see that Shirley had already done so. It took a little while but we eventually all got on the same page (thanks to Margaret). BTW, I also found Matheus' and Josefa's marriage - 19-Jul-1736 (PG) + the first four of the couple's children, also from PG - Jozeph -1737, Anna -1739, Anna-1742, Antonia-1746 and, of course, the nearly unreadable Nicolau (in 1751). Unfortunately, Joam wasn't among them in Ponta Garca. I will try Arcanjo Sao Miguel next. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52:34 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate this! On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.net wrote: Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it to you. I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM and where. At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June 1748in SM-VFDC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say you have on the Antonio Jacome Raposo family going way back in time. As far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, Joam born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. He is who I originally started this thread about. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
HI. I’ve posted this a few times already, but I think it keeps getting lost in the thread: I found Joam! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:28:53 AM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Actually, you shouldn't discount the 1751 record, Joseph. Not only does it mention Matheus da Costa Josefa Pacheco, several of the experts that posted to this thread agreed that the child's name was most likely Nicolau; the birth also falls into the birth cycle of this couple (every 2 to 3 years); and, there is a Nicolau a couple of generations later, by one of the descendants of this same couple. Therefore, there are several reasons to accept the premise that the birth record was that of that person. Now, there is a way to disprove the theory - plenty of time has elapsed since his birth, just look for his marriage, or, death record :) Second: I'm still trying to find Joam - his marriage record didn't add any additional clues - other than he was, indeed, the son of Matheus and Josefa. Another problem is that we're running out of time for birthing w/ this couple (20 yrs), there's only about 4 more yrs. Joam was definitely born in Vila Franca, and, although, the marriage record says that he was native to Arcanjo Sao Miguel, some of Josefa's family were members of Sao Pedro - that may indicate that Mateus and Josefa may have lived in that part of VFdC for a time. What with the name variations, and, the different residences, there was a lot going on w/ this couple... Part III: Regarding the new data on the earlier chidren, I'm in the process of transitioning to a new computer system, and, some of my old workhorse software isn't recognized with the new stuff. Normally, I would just send a gedcom to a email address, However, that would require that there is a Genealogy Program that can accept that data. If you have a genealogy software program that accepts that gedcom, most do), I can send you a gedcom via email. Sorry for length of this posting. On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:54:53 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: And I think we determined that Nicolau does not belong to Matheus and Jozefa. The father of Nicolau is Matias, not Matheus, and the mother is another Jozefa. I believe that in the thread above, you said that the Nicolau descends from another family member. On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Dano: Also, regarding the children of Matheus and Jozefa, I do not have have some of the children that you mention. Could you post a listing of all of them and their full dates of birth/location of birth? On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Dano: Yes, this is very exciting. I can't wait to see the packet that Shirley is going to mail me. I truly appreciate everyone's help! I actually found Joam yesterday. Sorry, I think that it keeps getting lost in this thread. Here is his birth record from Matriz, Jul 16, 1748: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.html On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:05 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, I'm happy that we could provide you with at least one branch of your family tree (Jacome Raposo dating back to circa 1525). Antonio Jacome Raposo is Josefa's father, and, from there the puzzle was complete. I was in the process of printing the report when I happened to see that Shirley had already done so. It took a little while but we eventually all got on the same page (thanks to Margaret). BTW, I also found Matheus' and Josefa's marriage - 19-Jul-1736 (PG) + the first four of the couple's children, also from PG - Jozeph -1737, Anna -1739, Anna-1742, Antonia-1746 and, of course, the nearly unreadable Nicolau (in 1751). Unfortunately, Joam wasn't among them in Ponta Garca. I will try Arcanjo Sao Miguel next. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:52:34 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate this! On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre shi...@digitalpath.net wrote: Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it to you. I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM and where. At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June 1748in SM-VFDC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Hi. I actually found him this afternoon: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.htmlz Thank you for your offer to help! On Mar 24, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, perhaps we've been working from the wrong perspective on this problem. Do you have info on Joam that you can share with us? If not, whomever the ancestor that you've traced furthest back w/ most info. Several of us in this group have been researching Ponta Garca VFdC for a long time - one of us must have the person you're looking for. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say you have on the Antonio Jacome Rapiso family going way back in time. As far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, Joam born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. He is who I originally started this thread about. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Cheri: I submitted my DNA sample, and they are now in receipt of it. I am having them do Family Finder, Y-DNA37, and mt-DNA Plus. It will be fun to see if we are all interconnected. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Date of Death -- Manuel Jacinto da Costa
Looking for a date of death and death record for my 2nd great grandfather Manuel Jacinto da Costa. Here is his info: Manuel Jacinto da Costa, b. 04 Oct 1842, VFDC-Matriz (son of Francisco Jose (Feitor) da Costa and Maria de Jesus); m. Filomena Augusta/de Conceicao/do Coracao de Jesus 19 Feb 1860, VFDC, Sao Pedro; -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Medeiros
Hi all. I’m looking to see if anyone has information on my Francisco de Medeiros and his ancestors. Here is his info: Francisco de Medeiros b. 21 Jan 1841 to Miguel de Medeiros and Theresa de Jesus, VFDC-Matriz; m. Maria Jose 18 Jan 1864, VFDC-Matriz. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Thanks Shirley. I emailed you my mailing address. I appreciate this! On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Joe: I had printed out the ancestry of JOSEFA. It is nine (9) pages long. If you will send me your snail mail address, I will send it to you. I did a RELATIONSHIP SEARCH for Antonio Jacome Raposo and Cheri Mello, my PAF program says that they are 3rd cousins, 9 times removed. Their common ancestors are: Bras Lopes X Rimigia da Sentra. I don't have any info on Matheus X Josefa. I still need their DOM and where. At least I can find the DOB for your grgrandfather Joam on 16 June 1748in SM-VFDC. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! Shirley: I would love to see all of the information that you say you have on the Antonio Jacome Raposo family going way back in time. As far as Matheus and Josefa are concerned, I have all of their information already. I have figured that out with others in this group over the past few days. Today: I also found their son, my fourth great-grandfather, Joam born on June 16, 1748 in VFSM. He is who I originally started this thread about. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Ok. I will take a further look. If anyone comes across the birth record of Matheus' son, Joam (my 4th great grandfather, and the person I started this thread about), please let me know. I have been unable to locate it. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: The record is for Margarida and it states the godparents are Marcos da Costa son of Antonio da Costa Piquete and Barbara da Costa and Jozepha Pacheca mulher de Matheus da Costa residents of PG. Marcos da Costa was not yet married (1739, PG) but he is the brother of Matheus da Costa. So you can see they are all related to the family of Antonio da Costa Piquete and Barbara da Costa. Hope this helps. JR On Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:00:07 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: The PG 1736 marriage record does state the father is Antonio Rapozo. As I already said in my private message I also understand. My ancestor Joao da Roia married as Joao da Costa, yet every other record stated his name was Joao da Roia. He never used Costa again. I had a hard time finding him. But his father was clearly Antonio da Roia. Anyway check this record which lists Matheus da Costa and spouse Josepha Pacheco as godparents living in Ponta Garca. This would be right after they married. JR http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1719-1739_item1/P199.html On Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Understandably so, Joseph. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.comwrote: I just am having great difficulty believing that the marriage record you have for Matheus Correia and Josefa Rezendes is actually my ancestors' marriage record. I still think that their marriage record is lost. On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, my ancestry membership is now expired. I'm not sure I understand your note regarding the marriage record for Joao which reades he was wed on July 7-1783. The record states his parents were both deceased and so they were. Matheus died Sep 1st 1773 and Josefa died May 21st, 1788. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: Margaret and JR: Here is Joam da Costa's marriage record (my 4th great grandfather). He would be Antonio da Costa de Araujo's brother. Note that both parents (Matheus and Josefa) were dead at the time of this wedding: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
JR, what program do you use to document your information? I like how it organizes the information. Right now, I only use ancestry.com to document my pedigree.. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:46:10 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his name from a grandparent with the name Costa. Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If so, this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four to six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors *may* be among the missing marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very difficult to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily fixed now. Here are children of said couple: *Descendants of Matheus da Costa* *Generation No. 1* *1.* MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade, and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECO Abt. 1750. She was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSEFA PACHECO: Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: i.ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. ii.ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. iii.JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, pi...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
I am looking for this marriage, JR. Do you have the link to the record? Are you sure it's not for Matias and Josefa de Canto? Those are not my ancestors. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:06 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, pi...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of your Joao da Costa? I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am To: azo...@googlegroups.com Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email toazores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, pi...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of your Joao da Costa? I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am To: azo...@googlegroups.com Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
I think that may have been lost in the thread below. I found Matheus' birth record, as well as the birth record of his brother, Andre, which states the parents names. I have posted all of these records in the thread.. On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:34 PM, p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com wrote: But Joseph, how did you learn the parents of Mateus da Costa without first finding his marriage record? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 8:09 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/LdiTyK1-8r0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Margaret and JR. I don’t think that the Matheus and Josefa you document below are my ancestors. It might help if I invite you to my tree, where I have all of the documentation I found for my line of ancestors. Are you both on ancestry.com? I can invite you if you give me your email addresses. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:19:07 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph and JR, I am a direct descendent of Antonio Jacome Raposo and Maria Pacheco Moniz through their daughter Antonia Francisca. JR you helped me with this line. Thank you. This is to say that I have Josefa on my tree and I have her marriage record. She married Matheus in 1736, same year of my ancestor Antonia Francisca.. Both the bride and groom are using different surnames. He, Correia and she Rezendes. It is very bad to read but you will be able to see clearly Josefa Francisca NOTE the surname used is de Rezende fa de Antonio Jacome Raposo. Here's the link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P138.html Cheers, Margaret On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his name from a grandparent with the name Costa. Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If so, this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four to six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors *may* be among the missing marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very difficult to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily fixed now. Here are children of said couple: *Descendants of Matheus da Costa* *Generation No. 1* *1.* MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade, and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECO Abt. 1750. She was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSEFA PACHECO: Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: i.ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. ii.ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. iii.JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Hi JR. I don't know when my Mateus and Josefa were married. That is the problem. I think you may be correct in that the marriage record is missing, because I have searched all of Ponta Garca and VFSM (knowing that Josefa was born there. I don't believe it is the one that you found. My Josefa (Josefa da Pacheca or Pachequa) was born in Apr 1714 in VFSM (I have her birth record posted below) and died in May 1788 in VFSM (I have her death record posted below). My Matheus was born in 1705 in Ponta Garca -- I have his birth record posted below. He died in 1773 in VFSM -- I have have his birth record posted below, which states the name of his parents (Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa). I know that both Matheus and Josefa died before their son Joam (my 4th great grandfather) was married in July 1788. His marriage record to Luzia do Espirito Santo states that both of his parents were deceased at the time. On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:46 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his name from a grandparent with the name Costa. Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If so, this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four to six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors may be among the missing marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very difficult to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily fixed now. Here are children of said couple: Descendants of Matheus da Costa Generation No. 1 1. MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade, and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECOAbt. 1750. She was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSEFA PACHECO: Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: i.ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. ii.ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. iii.JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Margaret and JR: Here is Joam da Costa’s marriage record (my 4th great grandfather). He would be Antonio da Costa de Araujo’s brother. Note that both parents (Matheus and Josefa) were dead at the time of this wedding: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
JR. For the children of Matheus and Josefa, I believe the daughter you have listed as “Jacinta do Espirito Santo” is actually Anna Jacinta do Espirito Santo”. I have her in my tree. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:46:10 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: I am getting confused. No doubt, this is Matheus son of someone named Costa. However there are others, not to mention that Mateus may fetch his name from a grandparent with the name Costa. Do I have this right, is your Mateus and Josefa married circa 1750? If so, this Matheus of 1705 is not likely your ancestor. There are about four to six marriages missing in Ponta Garca, all circa 1745-1751, more or less. There is no doubt they are missing because other records specify that these people were married in PG. They include mine and some of Cheri Melo and Shirley A. I think your missing ancestors *may* be among the missing marriages. On the other hand, I reread the baptism of Andre and notice that Josefa is native of VFSM, so that makes it likely they married in her vila of VFSM. By the way, Canto is name that is hard to come by. There are only a few that I know of. Most turn out to be Couto. This is what I have. There may be some errors, as they were very difficult to read with a small reader at the LDS. But they can be easily fixed now. Here are children of said couple: *Descendants of Matheus da Costa* *Generation No. 1* *1.* MATHEUS DA1 COSTA was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade, and died Bef. 21 May 1777. He married JOSEFA PACHECO Abt. 1750. She was born Abt. 1725 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSEFA PACHECO: Date born 2: Abt. 1725, Vila Franca, Matriz Children of MATHEUS COSTA and JOSEFA PACHECO are: i.ANTONIA FRANCISCA DOS ANJOS2, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. ANDRE DA CAMARA PACHECO, 22 May 1777, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. ii.ANTONIO DA COSTA DE ARAUJO, b. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; m. MARGARIDA FRANCISCA, 20 Jun 1779, Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; b. Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz. iii.JACINTA DO ESPIRITO SANTO, b. Vila Franca, Matriz; m. JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO, 21 Mar 1776, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 25 Mar 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; d. Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade. More About JOSE PACHECO CAMILHO: Baptised: 01 Apr 1738, Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:09:36 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Here is the marriage record from May 1701 of Matheus' parents, Antonio da Costa and Barbara da Costa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P41.html I got their names from Matheus' birth record in 1705, which I posted previously. On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:24 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but how did you determine the parents of Mateus da Costa? Do you have the marriage and notice of the parents? JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:06:59 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: Are you looking for the marriage of Mateus and Josefa? If so, according to my records they married circa 1750, in either Ponta Garca or VFSM. I have three children listed for this couple living in Ponta Garca. JR On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:47:21 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, pi...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
I just am having great difficulty believing that the marriage record you have for Matheus Correia and Josefa Rezendes is actually my ancestors' marriage record. I still think that their marriage record is lost. On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, my ancestry membership is now expired. I'm not sure I understand your note regarding the marriage record for Joao which reades he was wed on July 7-1783. The record states his parents were both deceased and so they were. Matheus died Sep 1st 1773 and Josefa died May 21st, 1788. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: Margaret and JR: Here is Joam da Costa's marriage record (my 4th great grandfather). He would be Antonio da Costa de Araujo's brother. Note that both parents (Matheus and Josefa) were dead at the time of this wedding: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam. On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:38 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hello Joseph, I couldn't resist your challenge. What is clear is the ao ending. That leaves one with a lot fewer choices for names. Expanding on that, it is pretty clear there is an l before the al and that now gives you lao and once you see that, you can see the u before the l and before the u you see a large C and there is nothing left to choose but Niculao and I am going with that. Moving over to the parents, the father is Mathias, not Matheus. So it's Matias da Costa and Josefa. But her second name is maybe Parobo and I don't recognize that as a real name. So for another reason, you must find another example from another child and hope it's more clear. As for Isabella's comment about legitimo I looked over the following baptisms from this priest and he isn't using that word on any of them. But what is lacking in your record is the phrase e de sua mulher (and of his wife) which is not in all the records, but in many of them. The ones where that phrase is lacking might mean those couples are not married, but there are so many that I doubt it. You would have to study all these couples and find or not find their marriages to see whether this priest is simply not consistent. You will see on page 0026 the baptism of a child named Agostinho and the father is another Niculao. Good luck! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 5:12 am To: azores@googlegroups.com I don't read neither Joam, nor legitimate. This is a very decorative penmanship and needs further study on this specific handwriting. I quiclkly went back and forth on some pages to check on the scriber writing and the way he writes Joam is very different from that one, the word legitimate as well is not present after his name. Joseph, I suggest you to research that book and try to find a similar pattern for that name, if you think this record is from your family. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Friday, March 21, 2014 6:55:25 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks. I showed this to Joao Ventura and he doesn't think that it's a birth record for Joam, but rather Nicolao (or Nicolau). On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:14:56 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, This is indeed difficult to read, but not impossible. Joam's name is mentioned at the beginning legitimate (abbrv) son of Mathias da Costa native of this freguesia of Sam Miguel of Villa Franca do Campo nasceo (was born) on the 4th day of the month of September 1751, and, was baptized in this same church of Sam Miguel, matriz of the aforementioned Villa, parish of his parents on the sixth day of the current month and year by me, Maoel de Medeiros , Curate of this matriz. Godfather was Mathias de Andrade, single, parishioner of this Matriz, and witnesses Pedro Corea, and Miguel Pereyra, and for the record I dated this day, month and as above. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Thanks Isabella. I have since determined that this is not my ancestor.I'm till trying to find my Joam's birth record. On Mar 22, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I don't read neither Joam, nor legitimate. This is a very decorative penmanship and needs further study on this specific handwriting. I quiclkly went back and forth on some pages to check on the scriber writing and the way he writes Joam is very different from that one, the word legitimate as well is not present after his name. Joseph, I suggest you to research that book and try to find a similar pattern for that name, if you think this record is from your family. Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Friday, March 21, 2014 6:55:25 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Thanks. I showed this to Joao Ventura and he doesn't think that it's a birth record for Joam, but rather Nicolao (or Nicolau). On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:14:56 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, This is indeed difficult to read, but not impossible. Joam's name is mentioned at the beginning legitimate (abbrv) son of Mathias da Costa native of this freguesia of Sam Miguel of Villa Franca do Campo nasceo (was born) on the 4th day of the month of September 1751, and, was baptized in this same church of Sam Miguel, matriz of the aforementioned Villa, parish of his parents on the sixth day of the current month and year by me, Maoel de Medeiros , Curate of this matriz. Godfather was Mathias de Andrade, single, parishioner of this Matriz, and witnesses Pedro Corea, and Miguel Pereyra, and for the record I dated this day, month and as above. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
In addition to not being able to find Joam's birth record, I'm having great difficulty locating the marriage record of Matheus da Costa and Josefa da Pacheca. Josefa was born in 1714 at Matriz: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Here is her death record from 1788: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of your Joao da Costa? I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
SInce I posted this, I have done further research. My ancestor is definitely Matheus da Costa and his wife was definitely Jozefa de Pacheca. Here is Matheus birth record from Sep 16, 1705 at Ponta Garca: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1703-1720_item1/P29.html Here is his death record from Matriz in 1773: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Also, here is the birth record of his son Andre (Joam's brother) in 1753: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P72.html On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:07 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Joseph, How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a? I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on further research. Do you think this is simply the wrong ancestors and not a sibling of your Joao da Costa? I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:16 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Thank you Doug. I do see what you mean, and I now think that this does say Niculao, which means that this is not my ancestor. Still can't find my Joam. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/xqzNkH3jpaM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Thanks. I showed this to Joao Ventura and he doesn't think that it's a birth record for Joam, but rather Nicolao (or Nicolau). On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:14:56 PM UTC-4, Dano wrote: Joseph, This is indeed difficult to read, but not impossible. Joam's name is mentioned at the beginning legitimate (abbrv) son of Mathias da Costa native of this freguesia of Sam Miguel of Villa Franca do Campo nasceo (was born) on the 4th day of the month of September 1751, and, was baptized in this same church of Sam Miguel, matriz of the aforementioned Villa, parish of his parents on the sixth day of the current month and year by me, Maoel de Medeiros , Curate of this matriz. Godfather was Mathias de Andrade, single, parishioner of this Matriz, and witnesses Pedro Corea, and Miguel Pereyra, and for the record I dated this day, month and as above. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Names on Birth Record
Thanks Pam. I suppose it's possible that he is one of my great grandfathers, Matheus da Costa, which is how the name appears on the marriage record of his son Joam da Costa. Was it common for a boy to take a surname given by his mother? Matheus' wife was Josefa Pacheco (in some records it's Pachequa or Pacheca). She was born in 1714. I'm trying to find their marriage record so that I can verify the names of Matheus' parents. Matheus' death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Josefa's birth record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Josefa's death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html Their son, Joao's (Joam's) marriage record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:23:48 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: Marcos Ferreira and Barbara da Costa On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi all. I need some help deciphering the names on this birth record from 1705. It’s the “Mathias” in the middle of the left hand page. Can anyone make out the names of the parents? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P158.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Names on Birth Record
Hi all. I need some help deciphering the names on this birth record from 1705. It’s the “Mathias” in the middle of the left hand page. Can anyone make out the names of the parents? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P158.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Italian Genealogical Searches
Hi all. As I've said before, I'm 100% Portuguese (Azorean descent). However, I have half-sisters who are half Italian. Does anyone know if there is a similar Google Group for Italian ancestry and if there is someone who can help search for and translate Italian ancestry records? thanks for any help you can offer. Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Italian Genealogical Searches
Thanks Mike! I appreciate it. On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:12:26 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: Sorry I should have put it as PIE Italian Genealogy Search for it that way from the groups home page. On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:58:57 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi all. As I've said before, I'm 100% Portuguese (Azorean descent). However, I have half-sisters who are half Italian. Does anyone know if there is a similar Google Group for Italian ancestry and if there is someone who can help search for and translate Italian ancestry records? thanks for any help you can offer. Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Joe Matias found Francisco’s birth record for me (Thanks, Joe!): http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P127.html On Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:38:14 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Now I’m on a search for Manuel’s father Francisco Jose (Feitor) da Costa. Thank you for the marriage record. In the margin of the record, I believe it says that Francisco was 25 and Maria de Jesus was 18. This would mean that he would have been born around 1791. I searched through all of the Matriz birth records from 1786 through 1799 and I couldn’t find him. I also looked in Sao Pedro. Will keep hunting.. On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Now I’m on a search for Manuel’s father Francisco Jose (Feitor) da Costa. Thank you for the marriage record. In the margin of the record, I believe it says that Francisco was 25 and Maria de Jesus was 18. This would mean that he would have been born around 1791. I searched through all of the Matriz birth records from 1786 through 1799 and I couldn’t find him. I also looked in Sao Pedro. Will keep hunting.. On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Looks like they were married in a leap year. Feb. 29th! Thank you again! On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, The record for the twins states the parents were wed in S. Pedro. And that's where I found them. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860_item1/P102.html Regards, On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the birth record of Jose da Costa from Dec 1864 (two separate links, as it's on two pages) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P402.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P403.html Here is the birth record of his twin sisters, Jacinta and Maria from August 1869: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869_item1/P349.html On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
OMGthank you!!! I missed that completely. On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, The record for the twins states the parents were wed in S. Pedro. And that's where I found them. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860_item1/P102.html Regards, On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the birth record of Jose da Costa from Dec 1864 (two separate links, as it's on two pages) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P402.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P403.html Here is the birth record of his twin sisters, Jacinta and Maria from August 1869: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869_item1/P349.html On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Nevermind. That was silly of me. it's actually February 19! On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph, The record for the twins states the parents were wed in S. Pedro. And that's where I found them. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-C-1830-1860_item1/P102.html Regards, On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jwcosta0...@gmail.com'); wrote: Here is the birth record of Jose da Costa from Dec 1864 (two separate links, as it's on two pages) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P402.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P403.html Here is the birth record of his twin sisters, Jacinta and Maria from August 1869: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869_item1/P349.html On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was jus -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/buTYB5fYt0s/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Actually, the birth record lists Manuel Jacinto On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:27:06 AM UTC-4, mnk wrote: I took a look at the birth of Jose and it list Manoel Jose as the father. I don't know if you've already tried this, but Try looking for Manoel Jose the groom with Filomena as the bride. Mnk -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Thank you! This is very helpful! I will poast the birth record links. Yes, Feitor is a name that I have often seen attached to my Costa name, presumably to distinguish us from other Costas, as it is such a common name. If I'm not mistaken, it means foreman. Maybe someone along the way was a foreman? On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Record of Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (around 1863)
Here is the birth record of Jose da Costa from Dec 1864 (two separate links, as it's on two pages) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P402.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1860-1864_item1/P403.html Here is the birth record of his twin sisters, Jacinta and Maria from August 1869: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1865-1869_item1/P349.html On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Joseph, The information you entered was very limited, it would be nice if you could post the 1864 and the 1869 birth record links. However I took a peak at the indices and did find a birth record for a child by the name of Antonio born to Manuel da Costa and Filomena Augusta da Conceicao which leads me to believe this may be your couple. Does the surname Feitor mean anything to you? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1885-1889_item1/P79.html I did not find their marriage record under Costa or Feitor. It is possible the bride may have been from a different place where the marriage took place. Did find Manuel's parents marriage record I in 1816. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html Check it out, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:14 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Well, I have a couple of suggestions. You may have to the nearby villages, such as Ribeira das Tainhas and Agua de Pau, Agua de Alto. They are adjacent to Vila Franca. Have you checked that Manuel da Costa may go by another name. Filomena is much rarer in pre-1900's, but sometimes may actually be Maria Filomena. In the period between about 1860 forward, grandparents were listed in marriages and baptisms. What do those documents say? JR On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:28:47 AM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: Hi everyone. I'm loving the new indices that Matriz, VFDC uploaded for births, marriages and deaths! Along those lines, I've been searching for the marriage record of my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao (also known as Filomena Augusta). According to the birth record of their son Jose (first born of that name) from December 1864 at Matriz VFDC, the two of them were natives of Matriz and were married there (it says that). I also have the birth records of their twin daughters, Maria and Jacinta from 1869. I have searched high and low for their marriage record at Matriz before the indices came out. Now that the indices have been uploaded their marriage doesn't appear in it at all for any year. There is a Manuel da Costa and Filomena da Conceicao in the 1890's, but it can't be them. I also searched Sao Pedro.no luck there either. Any thoughts on how I should approach this? Is it possible that it was just a civil ceremony? Wouldn't that have been frowned upon back then? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Maia
Ok. hoping someone can point me in the right direction. On my dad's side of the family, my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco de Medeiros (a native of SM, Vila Franco do Campo) married Maria Jose, a native of Maia, Portugal. She was born in approximately 1842. I have the names of her parents from their marriage certificate. They were married in SM, VFDC. Anyone know how I can initiate a search for her birth record from Maia? Is there an online database similar to the Azores database? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family
Thank you, Rick. Which of the tests do you recommend? Which one did most people in this group do? I see the range in price is quite significant. On Monday, February 24, 2014 5:00:06 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Hello Joseph,* *This link will take you to the Azores DNA Project of Family Tree DNA. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Azores/ http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Azores/ On the blue bar you will see “Join Request” click on that and the next page use option “B” Order a test to join this project. If you have any questions you can contact any of the group administrators.* *Rick* *Family Tree DNA Co-AdministratorAzores DNA Project* *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com javascript: * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com javascript: * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com javascript: * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Costa *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:34 AM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family Cheryl: How do I get the DNA test? Did you get my message about my great granmother? On Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:07:12 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Joe, Although I don't have that family in my line (yet), a bunch of us in the group have ancestors from Vila Franca (I descend from the Furtado Lourenco line). Have you considered doing a DNA test? It helps find cousins and gives you a breakdown of your ancestry. I bet you would match with a lot of us on here! On Feb 23, 2014 11:22 AM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Joe Costa. I live in Norfolk, MA. I’m new to this group. For a number of years, like the rest of you, I have been researching my Azorean genealogy. I understand that some people on here may trace back to the Sousa (Batata) family of Vila Franca. Jose de Sousa (Batata) (1844-1914) was my 1st great grandfather on my mom’s side. Her maiden name was Souza. I would love to touch base with anyone who has more information on this family and to see how we all tie together. My tree (Costa/Murray Family) is on ancestry.com. You can contact me there (user name: jwcosta1) or leave a posting for me here. Best, Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family
Hi Cheryl. My great grandmother was Maria da Gloria (Furtado) Medeiros Silva (she was married twice). She was born (1881 in Ribeirha Grande on Sao Miguel (?sp) and died in 1969 in Plymouth, MA. I know that she has some Lawrences in her family. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:07:12 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Joe, Although I don't have that family in my line (yet), a bunch of us in the group have ancestors from Vila Franca (I descend from the Furtado Lourenco line). Have you considered doing a DNA test? It helps find cousins and gives you a breakdown of your ancestry. I bet you would match with a lot of us on here! On Feb 23, 2014 11:22 AM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Joe Costa. I live in Norfolk, MA. I’m new to this group. For a number of years, like the rest of you, I have been researching my Azorean genealogy. I understand that some people on here may trace back to the Sousa (Batata) family of Vila Franca. Jose de Sousa (Batata) (1844-1914) was my 1st great grandfather on my mom’s side. Her maiden name was Souza. I would love to touch base with anyone who has more information on this family and to see how we all tie together. My tree (Costa/Murray Family) is on ancestry.com. You can contact me there (user name: jwcosta1) or leave a posting for me here. Best, Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family
Cheryl: How do I get the DNA test? Did you get my message about my great granmother? On Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:07:12 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Joe, Although I don't have that family in my line (yet), a bunch of us in the group have ancestors from Vila Franca (I descend from the Furtado Lourenco line). Have you considered doing a DNA test? It helps find cousins and gives you a breakdown of your ancestry. I bet you would match with a lot of us on here! On Feb 23, 2014 11:22 AM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Good morning everyone. My name is Joe Costa. I live in Norfolk, MA. I’m new to this group. For a number of years, like the rest of you, I have been researching my Azorean genealogy. I understand that some people on here may trace back to the Sousa (Batata) family of Vila Franca. Jose de Sousa (Batata) (1844-1914) was my 1st great grandfather on my mom’s side. Her maiden name was Souza. I would love to touch base with anyone who has more information on this family and to see how we all tie together. My tree (Costa/Murray Family) is on ancestry.com. You can contact me there (user name: jwcosta1) or leave a posting for me here. Best, Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) Family
Good morning everyone. My name is Joe Costa. I live in Norfolk, MA. I’m new to this group. For a number of years, like the rest of you, I have been researching my Azorean genealogy. I understand that some people on here may trace back to the Sousa (Batata) family of Vila Franca. Jose de Sousa (Batata) (1844-1914) was my 1st great grandfather on my mom’s side. Her maiden name was Souza. I would love to touch base with anyone who has more information on this family and to see how we all tie together. My tree (Costa/Murray Family) is on ancestry.com. You can contact me there (user name: jwcosta1) or leave a posting for me here. Best, Joe -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa (Batata) family -- Vila Franca do Campo
Hi all. I am new to this group, although I've been doing geneaolgy research on my family for about 20 years now, on and off. I'm starting up again. Specifically, I've begun research the Sousa Batata family from Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel. I'm wondering if anyone else has this name in their tree. My grandfather was Jayme de Sousa Batata (1884 - 1950). He immigrated to Plymouth, MA in 1907. My great grandfather was Jose De Sousa Batata (1844 -1914). He also immigrated to Plymouth, MA. He was a stone cutter (cabouqueiro). My 2nd great grandfather was Francisco de Sousa Batata, and his father was Henrique de Sousa Batata. I don't have a lot of information on them.I'm working on it. If anyone is related or has any information, let me know. Regards, Joe Costa Norfolk, MA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
