Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leal on Pico
Tomas Yes i have done a DNA on 23andme. Im not sure how to upload the GEDmatch. Maybe you could let me know how to do that. Thank you so much the help. Karen Leal Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2019, at 1:29 AM, Tomas Leal wrote: > > On Pico, you will find Leals in Ribeirinha, but the birth records likely say > Piedade because the priest did the record-keeping in Piedade. Ribeirinha > because its own town separate from Piedade in the 1950s. > > There are also Leals from Ribeirahs (Santa Cruz and Santa Barbara). > > There may be Leals in São Mateus, also. > > After a lifetime of thinking my Leal family originated on Faial, I discovered > I have several genetic matches with descendants of Leals from Pico. I haven't > made the connection yet, as it is most likely about 6 generations ago. > > Have you submitted your DNA for analysis? Uploaded to GEDmatch? If you have, > mine is there and we might find some matches. Could be interesting. My number > is F196772. > > Tomás Leal > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Leal on Pico
Cheri Thank you for giving me some direction. I felt stuck. Karen Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Repost for Karen LeFord, karenleford at gmail.com > > << I am searching fir the surname Leal or Lial on the island of Pico.>> > > Response: > Over there, it's Leal. You'll need a village (freguesia) to be able to > research the records there. Here's 30+ pages of resources of where you can > look that may reveal your village/freguesia: > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/ > > Happy hunting, > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores
Bill Thank so much . I am over the moon珞珞珞. I appreciate this. Karen LeFord Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:17 AM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: > > This marriage did not take place in the Azores. It was on Madeira, parish of > Espirito Santo, Vila da Calheta, concelho of Calheta on 10 Feb 1890. > > > groom: Manuel Gonçalves Morte, 26 years old, single, farm worker, natural of > Prazeres in this same concelho where he was baptized; son of Manuel Gonçalves > Morte and Maria Rodrigues, farm workers, natural of the same parish of > Prazeres. > bride: Filomena Sardinha Cunha, 20 years old, single, farm worker, natural > of this parish of Calheta where she was baptized; daughter of Francisco > Sardinha and Maria Gonçalves Cunha, farm workers and naturals of this parish > of Calheta. > witnesses: João Francisco d' Ornellas and Vicente Julio Bitencourt Pimenta? > > Hope this helps > Bill Seidler > >> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 8:32:56 PM UTC-7, Karen LeFord wrote: >> Cheri or whom ever might be able to translate this document would be so >> wonderful. I have tried using my goodle translator on my phone which helps >> but I would liket to be able to identify who were present at this marriage >> and how they relate to one another, dates or ages etc and how could I locate >> this parish while I am there. >> thank you >> Karen LeFord >> >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 6:24 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >>> There's a Madeira Google Group as well: >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/madeira-genealogy >>> >>> The Madeira Islands are a different archipelago than the Azores Islands. >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:16 PM Karen LeFord wrote: >>>> >>>> Cheri >>>> Thanks for your response. Morte was my mothers maiden name which she hated >>>> because of the translation. I did find that Morte on Documents on a >>>> Madiera web site. With Grandpa Morte baptism. I will post that asap maybe >>>> someone could translate the entire doc. >>>> Thank you >>>> Karen LeFord >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Karen, >>>>> >>>>> You need a name, date, and specific place. Not just the island. >>>>> Everything in the Azores is organized on the town (freguesia) level. >>>>> >>>>> The Madeira Islands, of which there are two (Madeira and Porto Santo) is >>>>> a different archipelago than the Azores Islands, of which there are 9 >>>>> (Santa Maria, Sao Miguel, Terceira, Graciosa, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, >>>>> Flores, and Corvo). >>>>> >>>>> I'm not clear on who you are researching or what time period (date). You >>>>> are researching someone on Madeira, but going to the Azores. Morte means >>>>> death. That's not a surname that's used over there, unless it's some >>>>> kinda of strange nickname. >>>>> Cheri >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> -- >> Karen LeFord > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello 1909-2003 Azores
Cheri Thanks for your response. Morte was my mothers maiden name which she hated because of the translation. I did find that Morte on Documents on a Madiera web site. With Grandpa Morte baptism. I will post that asap maybe someone could translate the entire doc. Thank you Karen LeFord Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Karen, > > You need a name, date, and specific place. Not just the island. Everything in > the Azores is organized on the town (freguesia) level. > > The Madeira Islands, of which there are two (Madeira and Porto Santo) is a > different archipelago than the Azores Islands, of which there are 9 (Santa > Maria, Sao Miguel, Terceira, Graciosa, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores, and > Corvo). > > I'm not clear on who you are researching or what time period (date). You are > researching someone on Madeira, but going to the Azores. Morte means death. > That's not a surname that's used over there, unless it's some kinda of > strange nickname. > Cheri > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Mello-1909-2003 Azores
Hello Looking for connections to family in the Azores. Very new to this shared email. All 4 of my grandparents come from different Islands in the Azores. Surnames: Morte, Silva, Leal (Lial), Perry, Carvalho, Cunha are some. There was a Irene Lorraine Mello who married my great Uncle Frank Morte, which appears they married before coming to California. Trying to track the Morte name. I did find some documents in Portuguese showing them on Madeira my grandfather Peter Morte baptism. I would like find a location of that. As i will be visiting the Azores in June 2019. Any help appreciated Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Debbie, > > The records are the spelling rules before 1911. The translators use the > modern spellings. So that is why you see the discrepancies. > > The number one: um, hum, and hu (with the tilde over the u) is one that > confuses the translator. Many others exist too. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:33 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca >> wrote: >> Hi, >> I find it helpful to just type your partial translation into google >> translate: >> >> Manoel son of Pedro do Conde Sodre and of [Agada Mejeo?] Of Dona Barbara de >> Mello Parochiano of [?] Living on the Victory Road on the 10th of September, >> one thousand seven hundred and twenty eight, and [foy?] Parochial of Our >> Lady of Guadalupe on the [...] month and year in ... >> >> Simple, but helpful most of the time. It has me looking harder for the >> spelling of what you are unsure of because it doesn’t recognize those >> either. >> >> Debbie >> >> >>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy >>> wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right) >> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P154.html >>> >>> Partial translation: >>> Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara de >>> Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os dez >>> de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa >>> Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... >>> >>> The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes de >>> Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words before >>> her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. >>> >>> I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from >>> the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the >>> Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the >>> da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Bill Boyd >>> Sacramento, California >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
