Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC books

[Marilyn Thompson]

What was the name of the book you found the additional information in? The
book might be found in another library also.

Great that you found photos of your family members.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 8:24 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sounds really interesting and it was definitely worth the trip for you to
> find that photo and other tidbits of information. Thank you for reporting
> back to us!!
>
> Susan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, themom8682 via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> The UPEC books (all in Portuguese of course) contained the records of the
> business of the organization.  There were some pages in the books that
> folded out with copies of the "death" records showing what was paid out and
> to whom.  I have a close friend who has a great great grandfather that was
> president of the UPEC for a time so there were many many references to him
> in the books.
>
> I did find a small gem in a book about the Festas in California.  There is
> a 1-4 page history of each of the festas from different areas all over
> California.  I learned that my 3g uncle founded the festa in Sausalito AND
> there was a photo of him in the book!  Also, there was a photo from the
> Yreka area festa of some cousins through another 3g uncle.
>
> Lisa
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
> To: azores 
> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 10:15 am
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC books
>
> Hi!
> I would be interested to hear what you find as I live in Sacramento. I
> have memories of going to going to a few conventions with my mom of the
> SPRSI and I just have a hunch that there would be little of genealogical
> value in “Sessions of the Supreme Council of UPEC” but am interested to
> hear what you find. The real value of the membership books are that they
> often give the island of origin information and some family relationships
> in the beneficiaries listed in their rolls.
> Happy hunting!
> Susan Vargas Murphy
> PS….I have not been to that library for years but if I am remembering
> correctly, I did look at original books for marriages in Alameda County
> ….which was very cool.
>
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, themom8682 via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroupse.com> wrote:
>
> Researching at the  State Library in Sacramento, CA this morning.  If
> anyone is interested, they have four volumes of books with the Sessions of
> the Supreme Council of UPEC:  San Leandro, 1887-1898; Santa Cruz,
> 1899-1903; San Rafael, 1904-1907; and San Jose, 1924-1927.  There are no
> indexes so you would need to know which book to look in and really scour it
> for your person.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC books

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you Lisa I will check into it


On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 8:04 PM, themom8682 via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The book about the festas is *The Holy Ghost Festas:  A Historic
> Perspective of the Portuguese in California*, Tony P. Goulart, published
> by Portuguese Chamber of Commerce of San Jose in 2003.  I checked World Cat
> and it is available in many libraries in California and a few other random
> libraries across the country.  On World Cat it looks like you can search
> within the book but when I tried to search the names and places that I know
> are in the book, "no matches" returned.
>
> Lisa
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marilyn Thompson 
> To: Cheri Mello 
> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2016 10:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC books
>
> What was the name of the book you found the additional information in? The
> book might be found in another library also.
>
> Great that you found photos of your family members.
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 8:24 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds really interesting and it was definitely worth the trip for you to
>> find that photo and other tidbits of information. Thank you for reporting
>> back to us!!
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2016, at 1:37 PM, themom8682 via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> The UPEC books (all in Portuguese of course) contained the records of the
>> business of the organization.  There were some pages in the books that
>> folded out with copies of the "death" records showing what was paid out and
>> to whom.  I have a close friend who has a great great grandfather that was
>> president of the UPEC for a time so there were many many references to him
>> in the books.
>>
>> I did find a small gem in a book about the Festas in California.  There
>> is a 1-4 page history of each of the festas from different areas all over
>> California.  I learned that my 3g uncle founded the festa in Sausalito AND
>> there was a photo of him in the book!  Also, there was a photo from the
>> Yreka area festa of some cousins through another 3g uncle.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>> To: azores 
>> Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 10:15 am
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] UPEC books
>>
>> Hi!
>> I would be interested to hear what you find as I live in Sacramento. I
>> have memories of going to going to a few conventions with my mom of the
>> SPRSI and I just have a hunch that there would be little of genealogical
>> value in “Sessions of the Supreme Council of UPEC” but am interested to
>> hear what you find. The real value of the membership books are that they
>> often give the island of origin information and some family relationships
>> in the beneficiaries listed in their rolls.
>> Happy hunting!
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>> PS….I have not been to that library for years but if I am remembering
>> correctly, I did look at original books for marriages in Alameda County
>> ….which was very cool.
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, themom8682 via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroupse.com> wrote:
>>
>> Researching at the  State Library in Sacramento, CA this morning.  If
>> anyone is interested, they have four volumes of books with the Sessions of
>> the Supreme Council of UPEC:  San Leandro, 1887-1898; Santa Cruz,
>> 1899-1903; San Rafael, 1904-1907; and San Jose, 1924-1927.  There are no
>> indexes so you would need to know which book to look in and really scour it
>> for your person.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Movie - The Epic Journey of Portuguese Jesuits of the 17th Century

[Marilyn Thompson]

Is this movie done in English or Portuguese?


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:47 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Martin Scorsese premiered this movie at Vatican City and Pope Francis Nov.
> 29 and it will be released in selected theaters in the U. S. December 23,
> and nationwide Jan 6. 2017.  It tells the story of 2 Portuguese Jesuit
> missionaries in 17th century Japan.
>
> My dear, dear, Jesuit friend,Father Martin SCU, deceased, would have loved
> this movie and I will honor his memory and can't wait to see it.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Movie - The Epic Journey of Portuguese Jesuits of the 17th Century

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks I found a trailer for it. Not my type of movie

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I believe it is called "Silence" and is done in the English language with
> American actors. Cheri
> On Dec 12, 2016 2:47 PM, E" Sharp"  wrote:
>
>> Martin Scorsese premiered this movie at Vatican City and Pope Francis
>> Nov. 29 and it will be released in selected theaters in the U. S. December
>> 23, and nationwide Jan 6. 2017.  It tells the story of 2 Portuguese Jesuit
>> missionaries in 17th century Japan.
>>
>> My dear, dear, Jesuit friend,Father Martin SCU, deceased, would have
>> loved this movie and I will honor his memory and can't wait to see it.
>>
>> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestral Quest version 15 (genealogy software)

[Marilyn Thompson]

The Ancestral Quest version 15 has some additional features. I saw a
demonstration on it. I have not loaded this newest version, but will do it
probably tomorrow.


On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 11:37 AM, 'abbykats' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Those were the only 2 I knew of as well.  But open to view or try new ones.
>
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:16 AM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>
> Dick Eastman wrote about the new release of Ancestral Quest by Incline
> Software. If you are in the market for a new genealogy software, Ancestral
> Quest has a free version (called Basics). It works on both PC and Macs.
> You can read more about it here:
> https://goo.gl/AV6U1Y
>
> (The other 2 free ones that I am aware of are Legacy Family Tree (standard
> is free) and RootsMagic (Essentials is free).
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread

[Marilyn Thompson]

Merry Christmas and a Happy successful search for your ancestors


On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Feliz Natal (Merry Christmas) and Prospero Ano Novo (Happy New Year)!
>
> If you would like to send greetings to the list, use this thread ONLY.
> Just hit reply to this thread and respond. Do NOT start a new thread.
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> Please post your greetings by 11:59 pm YOUR TIME on Dec. 25th. If it's
> 12:01 your time on Dec. 26th, you are too late.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes

[Marilyn Thompson]

1/2 image


On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yeah, well, they said it's my problem with my browser and I'm pretty sure
> it's not. They say it displays fine on their end with IE.
>
> It drives me crazy when there's a technical problem and IT people say,
> "Well just use _." (Fill in with the browser of your choice). FTDNA
> likes to say "Use Chrome." The CCA likes to say "Use IE." Cmon now, we
> can't be bouncing around like that. It needs to display correctly on ALL
> browsers or someone's not doing their job in quality control. And if it's
> one image, that should mean the error is on their end. But you can't tell
> them that.
>
> Let's see what others are seeing and I'll report it back to them.  Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *I am using EDGE and I get the half image. All other images are normal
>> they may have a corrupt file on their server.*
>>
>> *rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:18 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes
>>
>>
>>
>> I was using the Ponta Delgada Passaportes last night. As I went through
>> image 120, 121, etc, I came to image 130. Only half the image loaded. I
>> tried the image after. It completely loaded. Since I was on Firefox, I
>> tried Chrome. It didn't load there. I emailed the CCA and they said to use
>> Internet Explorer (on one image??) I have a newer computer and they don't
>> have IE anymore. They have Edge. I had the same display program. What do
>> you guys see? Any idea of how to get that one image to display?
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>> PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/P130.html
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Shipping of new kits is really behind

[Marilyn Thompson]

Are they possibly behind in logging in completed kits?


On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> I asked FTDNA how far behind they were on shipping kits (last I heard it
> was 2 days). Now it is more. They said they are working on orders placed on
> Dec. 20th and they have other people from other departments in shipping
> working on making the kits (2 vials, 2 swabs, instruction sheet - you get
> the idea). They are 7 days behind. So it may take a kit 2 weeks or longer
> to get to you depending on where you live.
>
> By looking at the Azores DNA project, they have sold in excess of 46,000
> NEW kits! Wow, we will be getting lots of new matches in the new year! In
> addition to that, people have ordered other types of testing too, which is
> not in my 46,000 count. Wow, sounds like some of us will be have a Happy
> Genealogical New Year!
>
> Please consider DNA testing if you have not yet done so. It's another tool
> we can use in our genealogy toolbox!
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Smithsonian article: Did Ellis Island Officials Really Change the Names of Immigrants?

[Marilyn Thompson]

This is a link to a very interesting article about Immigrants that came
through Ellis Island.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/ask-smithsonian-did-ellis-island-officials-really-change-names-immigrants-180961544/?__prclt=3teObe4U

Marilyn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[Marilyn Thompson]

I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data
base. What is the time period you are talking about?
Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the
island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
   son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to
Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23 Jan
1828 Ribeira Seca

Marilyn


On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares  wrote:

> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh dear
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Cheri Mello 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
>> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
>> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
>> converted to Word.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Nancy
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>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Victor Soares 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>>
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean!
>>
>>
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>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead
>> me somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it
>> and eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her
>> husband, Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will
>> enjoy reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, 
>> *Society
>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
>> ,
>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
>> Machado
>> 
>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
>> common ancestors)
>>
>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
>> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
>> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>>
>>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[Marilyn Thompson]

Mine are probably just the same name but different persons from the other
end of the island

Marilyn

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa
> Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte
> Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to
>
> Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna
> Maciel Alvares.
>
>
> Nancy Jean
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Marilyn Thompson 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
> *To:* Cheri Mello
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data
> base. What is the time period you are talking about?
> Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the
> island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
> Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
> Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
>son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to
> Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
> and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
> The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
> direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23
> Jan 1828 Ribeira Seca
>
> Marilyn
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
>> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
>> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh dear
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Cheri Mello 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
>>> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
>>> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
>>> converted to Word.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Victor Soares 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>>
>>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
>>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
>>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
>>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
>>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
>>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
>>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
>>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy Jean!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

[Marilyn Thompson]

I did not really think mine would have been at that end of the island.
OH Well

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Marilyn, mine is from Norte Grande and he was still married to the same
> wife when he died at age 86. That's the trouble with Portuguese research,
> so many with the same names it's just gets so crazy!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Mine are probably just the same name but different persons from the other
>> end of the island
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa
>>> Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte
>>> Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to
>>>
>>> Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna
>>> Maciel Alvares.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy Jean
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Marilyn Thompson 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
>>> *To:* Cheri Mello
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>>
>>> I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my
>>> data base. What is the time period you are talking about?
>>> Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of
>>> the island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
>>> Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
>>> Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
>>>son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo
>>> to Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
>>> and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
>>> The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
>>> direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23
>>> Jan 1828 Ribeira Seca
>>>
>>> Marilyn
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
>>>> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
>>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf
>>>>> of Cheri Mello 
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>>>> society and culture
>>>>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator.
>>>>> It says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the
>>>>> ability to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it
>>>>> can be converted to Word.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>>>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nancy
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf
>>>>> of Victor Soares 
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>>>> society and culture
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviation on Marriage Record

[Marilyn Thompson]

Could the Gil/l be another spelling for Guill?


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Jeremy, I agree with Cheri, the name is Gil and it's certainly a surname
> although James Guill's book The Azores Island, a History, spells it with
> two 'L's'. I think that the wife is dead because he says 'sua mulher, da
> funta (with an 'a') Maria ...
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:18 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Darn! I must be loosing my mind! Thanks for the heads up Rosemarie!
>>
>> It is: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>> SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1745-1781_item1/P149.html
>> Left entry.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jeremy B-C*
>> *Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Terceira, Faial, Graciosa*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

[Marilyn Thompson]

So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the
language to get dual citizenship?
That is my limiting factor.

Marilyn Thompson

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
wrote:

> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
> application.
>
> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
> Phil Lopes
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

[Marilyn Thompson]

David how recent was this that you and your son applied?
My grandmother was born on Sao Jorge and came to the US. She married in
California, her 2 children were born there as was I a granddaughter.


On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:03 PM, David Perry 
wrote:

> Phil, my son used my citizenship paper trail and my confirmation of
> citizenship to secure his.  When he went to the NY Consulate before I
> applied, he was given very little encouragement and was told he needed to
> learn the language even though his grandfather was born in the Azores.
> After I got my citizenship through the San Francisco Consulate with no
> requirements except the paper trail, he took that information to the same
> consulate and was greeted with open arms with no language requirement and
> had his citizenship in just a few weeks.
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:26 PM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> David,
> I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your
> citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did?
> Thanks.
>
> *Phil Lopes*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
> wrote:
>
> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
> application.
>
> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
> Phil Lopes
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage Users - Request for Gedcom help

[Marilyn Thompson]

This is what I found on My Heritage

You can export a GEDCOM file of your family tree on your family site on
MyHeritage.com.

1. Log in to your family site.

2. Move your mouse cursor over ‘Family tree’ and click on ‘Manage
Trees’.




3. On the page that opens, click on ‘Export to GEDCOM’ on the right
side next to the name of the tree you would like to export.



4.   On the next page you can choose whether to include photos to the
GEDCOM file. Then click 'Begin the export'.

5.   You will then receive an email with the link to download your
GEDCOM file.



On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I have a DNA project member who keeps her tree on My Heritage. I don't use
> My Heritage. I told her to do an Internet search for: my heritage gedcom
> and to make a Gedcom.
>
> She sent me a screen shot from her cell phone that said to click on the
> link to download it. I told her to click the link and save it to her
> desktop.
>
> Then she sends me another message about IMPORTING her tree to MyHeritage.
> We need EXPORTING.
>
> Anyone know how to make a Gedcom from MyHeritage? I need step by step
> directions with screen shots. In either Portuguese or English, it doesn't
> matter.
>
> Thanks! Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage Users - Request for Gedcom help

[Marilyn Thompson]

I will try my My Heritage file and see if I can download it.


On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I *think* she got that far as she emailed me a link, but I can't click on
> the link to download her file. I'm not a MyHeritage member.
>
> I'll send along this information. But I think she's on Marilyn's Step 5.
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what I found on My Heritage
>>
>> You can export a GEDCOM file of your family tree on your family site on
>> MyHeritage.com.
>>
>> 1. Log in to your family site.
>>
>> 2. Move your mouse cursor over ‘Family tree’ and click on ‘Manage
>> Trees’.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. On the page that opens, click on ‘Export to GEDCOM’ on the right
>> side next to the name of the tree you would like to export.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.   On the next page you can choose whether to include photos to the
>> GEDCOM file. Then click 'Begin the export'.
>>
>> 5.   You will then receive an email with the link to download your
>> GEDCOM file.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a DNA project member who keeps her tree on My Heritage. I don't
>>> use My Heritage. I told her to do an Internet search for: my heritage
>>> gedcom and to make a Gedcom.
>>>
>>> She sent me a screen shot from her cell phone that said to click on the
>>> link to download it. I told her to click the link and save it to her
>>> desktop.
>>>
>>> Then she sends me another message about IMPORTING her tree to
>>> MyHeritage. We need EXPORTING.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to make a Gedcom from MyHeritage? I need step by step
>>> directions with screen shots. In either Portuguese or English, it doesn't
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> Thanks! Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

[Marilyn Thompson]

Jeremy

Do you know the date this map was made? I am curious because it includes an
area of Sao Jorge the was supposed to have fallen off into the ocean.

Thanks
Marilyn

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:43 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> CEMETERY MAP FINDER:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/interactive-mappin
> g
>
> *NEW Detailed CENTRAL ISLAND MAP CLICK HERE
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

[Marilyn Thompson]

You may be able to look on Google Earth to find the street before you go. I
remember Joao showing us his home on the island using it. Just a thought.

I hope you have a great trip and find what you want to.

Marilyn

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> I think you have made some great decisions and are making wonderful
> progress!  Sorry to scare you off of SATA but I have a feeling that the
> flight that you take from Terceira to Graciosa might be with SATA? I really
> am no expert at all, but I want to reassure you, if it is, that those inter
> island flights on SATA were very good!  The long flights to and from the US
> were the ones that with which we have had all the problems.
>
> Really good idea to just try to have quality time on Graciosa!  I took a
> look at some of your records and just wanted to make sure you saw that they
> give the actual street on which your grandfather was born. Caminho das
> Fontes!  Maybe you will get even more clues in these records but this is a
> wonderful bit of information. You can certainly find that street and know
> you are walking in the footsteps of your ancestors!!
>
> Very excited for you!
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Mar 1, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Ken Waters  wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Thanks so much for the replies and suggestions.  I combined all my
> comments and updates into one e-mail in order to avoid posting too many
> individual posts on the list.
>
> Given the comments I saw on SATA it sounds like using TAP as proposed may
> be a good choice. I think I'd like to pass on getting the "I survived SATA"
> t-shirt (and the experience).  :-)
>
> As I mentioned I found $82 Lisbon-Terceira.  I found Lisbon-Graciosa
> (changing in Terceira) for $144.  I like the idea of taking one of the
> ferries but from what I saw online and comments found it seems the service
> can be irregular.  Indeed, online it looked like service was only once a
> week, particularly during the off-season and I couldn't even find a
> schedule.  Given all that I feel it might be safer to look at the
> Lisbon-Graciosa flights.  Perhaps a longer stay could involve the ferry (I
> love the idea of taking a boat for the scenic aspect) but not this time.
>
> I took seriously the comments about strategy regarding one versus multiple
> islands.  I'm pretty locked into no more than 4 days maximum and so I think
> I'd like to take the tack of doing one island well and that one should be
> the one where I might have the biggest bang in terms of family searching.
> That will allow enough time to thoroughly soak up the culture as well as
> search for my possible da Silva relations in person and in records.
>
> I did take a look at AirBNB and was pleased to find a couple of facilities
> that look very promising and at very reasonable rates.  I think I will
> attempt to use one of them for the stay.
>
> Now, shifting to the da Silva line, I want to thank those who sent
> promising notes about da Silva/Silva connections in Graciosa:  Leonard, Sue
> Q, and Don.  I would like to follow up with each of you.  I plan on doing
> some more pre-trip legwork (including CCA research) to give me a better
> chance of success on the island.  Along those lines, I started building a
> website (http://www.familytreeaz.com/Working/daSilva_Graciosa/) to help
> me keep track of my da Silva family and the records found.  I've still got
> 4 more that I need to find (please disregard those placeholder links for
> now) and add to the website but do have 4 on there now.  I included both my
> digital image excerpts of each record as well as the link to the specific
> page to facilitate better analysis (including others on the same page).  I
> hope to have the missing 4 up there by this evening. Much thanks to Edna
> Epps for finding these records that would have probably taken me 10x the
> time to find.  Here is the family group that I'm referring to:
>
> PARENTS
>
> Manuel da Silva, born 9 Oct 1806, Santa Cruz
> Louisa Candida, born 23 Jan 1799, Santa Cruz
> MARRIAGE: 9 Sept 1827, Santa Cruz
>
> CHILDREN
>
> Maria da Silva, born 21 June 1828, Santa Cruz
> Francisco da Silva, born 24 Aug 1831, Guadalupe
> Manuel da Silva, born 10 Oct 1837, Guadalupe
> Rita da Silva, born 20 Feb 1841, Guadalupe
> Joao da Silva, born 6 Dec 1845, Guadalupe --> migrated to Yreka CA
>
>
> Joao da Silva is my great-grandfather.   Don Vasconcelos, if you are
> agreeable I might like to look up your relative there, particularly if you
> think she might be able to have some information that might help.  Do you
> know if she speaks any English?  As I gain more information going through
> these records including, hopefully, tie-ins to others who have Silva/da
> Silva's in Graciosa I will post them to the list.
>
> Again, thanks All for the great comments and suggestions!
>
> Ken
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

[Marilyn Thompson]

I asked the date of the map because I was told that the area that my great
grandparents came from had fallen into the ocean. They were from Salto
Verde. I see Faja do Salto Verde on the Northern coastline. It is just west
of the second longitude line from the lower end of the island.

I know when we were there in 2001 a fellow was telling us that to hike
there was very difficult because the trail was very narrow and steep. We
did not do the hike. I also do not have any idea when that was supposed to
have happened.



On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Mary the one I uploaded is less then half the quality of the big ones I
> have scanned... That one was shrunk for space. I just sent you an email
> with the good scan of SJ.
>
> I have had these a while, but just got permission to use them like this
> because copyright has not been renewed.
> ,
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Civil Registry- Ordering

[Marilyn Thompson]

Doesn't Civil Registration start with the year 1911? I know when we were on
the islands that was the date we had to get from the Civil Registration
offices.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:33 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
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> If it is 1908 it is likely on line and you can look it up yourself.
>
> JMR
>
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 2:21 PM, Joseph Mendonca <
> jemendonca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> My attempt ran into a couple of issues:
> Required fields
> 1. Individuals date of birth must be 1917 or greater, I needed 1908
> 2. Must know parents names, which is one thing I'm trying to obtain.
>
> Oh well.
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, I have dual citizenship and have my Portuguese ID card.  I wasn't
> sure if you could order documents which are not your immediate family.
> I'll give it try.  Just have to figure out how to navigate that site.  I
> ordered my son's birth certificate via the internet in the early 2000's
> with the help of the Portuguese Consulate in New Bedford.
>
> Thanks Cheri, see you in Salt Lake!
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I *think* this is it:
> https://www.portaldocidadao.pt /web/instituto-dos-registos-e-
> do-notariado/registo-civil-cer tidao-de-nascimento
> 
>
> Not sure of the years it covers. Also, I seem to remember that you need to
> be a Portuguese citizen to obtain a record.
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
> How does one go about ordering records from the Portuguese Civil Registry?
> Online or snail mail?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Groupon deal for $20 off Family Finder at Family Tree DNA

[Marilyn Thompson]

When I clicked on your link it went to FTDNA. I put in the word Groupon and
it did not reduce the price. Did I need to do something different?
Marilyn


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> There's a Groupon for $20 off of Family Finder (so $59 instead of $79 USD
> - add $12.95 S&H). This deal is with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).
>
> You have to go through Groupon and not the FTDNA website. And it would be
> for NEW kits (you won't be able to add on Family Finder to someone you have
> Y-DNA tested, for example).
>
> Here's the link (I clicked through Groupon and got to the nitty-gritty):
> https://goo.gl/yxwnBk
>
> The Groupon page says expires in 2 days. No time was stated. So it expires
> some time on Thursday.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Groupon deal for $20 off Family Finder at Family Tree DNA

[Marilyn Thompson]

I went to Groupon and just ordered it for my daughter. They are emailing
the gift purchase to her. I said that today was the last day.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Correction: The previous link I provide does not take off the $20
> discount. Therefore, go to www.Groupon.com and search for Family Tree DNA
> to get your discount.  Cheri
>
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> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
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>
>> There's a Groupon for $20 off of Family Finder (so $59 instead of $79 USD
>> - add $12.95 S&H). This deal is with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).
>>
>> You have to go through Groupon and not the FTDNA website. And it would be
>> for NEW kits (you won't be able to add on Family Finder to someone you have
>> Y-DNA tested, for example).
>>
>> Here's the link (I clicked through Groupon and got to the nitty-gritty):
>> https://goo.gl/yxwnBk
>>
>> The Groupon page says expires in 2 days. No time was stated. So it
>> expires some time on Thursday.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Groupon deal for $20 off Family Finder at Family Tree DNA

[Marilyn Thompson]

I just went back to the page and what I saw was a banner for something else
across the top. I did not see an end date.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> When I accessed Groupon, it says "ends in 2 days" which would be Thursday.
> It may be ending at different times in different areas. I don't know how
> Groupon works.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> I went to Groupon and just ordered it for my daughter. They are emailing
>> the gift purchase to her. I said that today was the last day.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Correction: The previous link I provide does not take off the $20
>>> discount. Therefore, go to www.Groupon.com and search for Family Tree
>>> DNA to get your discount.  Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a Groupon for $20 off of Family Finder (so $59 instead of $79
>>>> USD - add $12.95 S&H). This deal is with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).
>>>>
>>>> You have to go through Groupon and not the FTDNA website. And it would
>>>> be for NEW kits (you won't be able to add on Family Finder to someone you
>>>> have Y-DNA tested, for example).
>>>>
>>>> Here's the link (I clicked through Groupon and got to the nitty-gritty):
>>>> https://goo.gl/yxwnBk
>>>>
>>>> The Groupon page says expires in 2 days. No time was stated. So it
>>>> expires some time on Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Returning Home to Azores from US

[Marilyn Thompson]

Jeremy

I did not see what your relationship is to the person you are seeking a
copy of their passport.

I did a google search asking "How to obtain a copy of a US Passport issued
in 1930?" the following link says they are protected by the Privacy Act of
1974.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/services/obtain-copies-of-passport-records.html

It gives the full requirements and procedures.

Hope this helps

Just a thought - did you check Ancestry to make sure the passport was not
obtained before 1925? It looks like Ancestry records for passports only go
to 1925

Marilyn

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:30 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> Coming in late on this but I was helping someone and found their relative
> listed on Ancestry listed under Report of Deaths of American Citizens
> Abroad, 1835-1974.  No picture though.  She was not born in the country.
> It says her certificate of naturalization was left in this country.  She
> died in her home country. It gave her U. S. passport number and when it was
> issued and says it was returned to a family member.
>
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you, I have only read about 5 pages so far. I am anxious to read the
rest of it.

Thank you for sharing


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Very interesting. I think this same type of inheritance still occurs.
>
>
> Nancy Jean
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY
> 3/20/2017
>
> Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.
>
> The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early
> 1700s but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I
> am fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I
> suppose many of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my
> ancestors moved to (Norte Grande).
>
> And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.
>
> Mary
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts
>> (demographics) of a study that I have.
>>
>> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the
>> statistical information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has
>> Ribeira Seca ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
>> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>>
>> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>>
>> 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%
>> 20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1
>>
>> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time
>> 3/20/2016*
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
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> Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.
>
> The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early
> 1700s but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I
> am fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I
> suppose many of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my
> ancestors moved to (Norte Grande).
>
> And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.
>
> Mary
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts
>> (demographics) of a study that I have.
>>
>> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the
>> statistical information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has
>> Ribeira Seca ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
>> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>>
>> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>>
>> 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%
>> 20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1
>>
>> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time
>> 3/20/2016*
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>> Thank you,
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Blue and Red dots

[Marilyn Thompson]

My guess would be someone looking at the record book was marking/counting
people. Maybe their own family members. I do not remember seeing those
kinds of marks when we used the books looking for records.

Another possibility, when the records were digitized; those that needed to
be redone because they blurry were marked. Then the second mark was there
way of knowing that it had been redone.

Those are my guesses, unless someone actually put the marks of the page
answers it will only be guesses.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> Does anyone know the significance of the blue and red dots next to some of
> the marriages?
>
> Example:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1803-1822_item1/P58.html
>
> The dots next to Jose Machado Mendonca ... top right marriage ... in the
> left margin.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

[Marilyn Thompson]

Happy Easter! May we remember what we are celebrating this season.


On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Happy Easter to all!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Happy Easter and Feliz Pascoa to all!
>>
>> If you would like to send your Easter greetings, hit reply and respond to
>> this thread ONLY. Do NOT start your own Easter thread.
>>
>> You may send your Easter greetings on Saturday and Sunday. If it's Monday
>> in your time zone, you are too late. The Easter greeting thread will be
>> done by then.
>> Thanks, Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dealing with multiple names

[Marilyn Thompson]

I enter their full name with an AKA nickname in all cases.

I can see the problem with Portuguese names as to how to handle the "da".
Should it be included as part of the surname or what?


On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:21 PM, 'abbykats' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Cher,
> I have done both 1 and 2 in case 1, but have also added in the notes the
> information.  I myself would do the same for those who were immigrants and
> non-immigrants.
>
> Barb
>
> *Jafra Consultant and*
> *Member of the Azores-Gen Project*
> *Researching:  Graciosa, Azores, Portugal*
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:17 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>
> When entering a name into your genealogy program, how do you deal with
> multiple names?
>
> Case 1 (immigrant)
> Say your ancestor is Joao da Silva, but the vast majority of records in
> America call him John and your family called him John. What do you enter
> into your genealogy program?
>
> 1) Joao da Silva
> 2) Joao "John" da Silva
> 3) Joao da Silva and I also have my program make a 2nd name from him in
> the Nickname, AKA, or Name Variation field (event, tag, etc).
> 4) Other
>
> Case 2 (non-immigrant)
> What do you do for non-immigrant names? Say the ancestor was John Dewey
> Smith but he went by Dewey his whole life?
> 1) John Dewey Smith
> 2) John Dewey "Dewey" Smith
> 3) John Dewey Smith and I also have my program make a 2nd name from him in
> the Nickname, AKA, or Name Variation field (event, tag, etc).
> 4) Other
>
> Family Tree DNA is revising the trees according to Gedcom standard, but
> they were curious as to what people do in practice.
> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES - S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you John for this wonderful and informative article. I wish I had
someone important enough to have such a rich history of their lives.

Call me green with envy

Marilyn

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> John,
>
> Wonderful article and so complete.  I will take me a while to digest it.
>
> May I email you privately as you may have the answer for my question with
> having all this background on the family?
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Margaret,
>>
>> This is from an article I wrote many years ago.
>>
>> Yankee Azoreans
>>
>>
>> John Miranda Raposo
>>
>>
>> This is not a work about the thousands of immigrants who have come to New
>> England from the nine islands of the Azores. Rather, this work is primarily
>> concerned with the descendants of Thomas Hickling, a Boston Yankee who
>> settled on São Miguel and became the patriarch of a large clan on both
>> sides of the Atlantic.
>>
>> Thomas Hickling was born in Boston on 21-2-1744 into the prosperous
>> merchant family of  William Hickling of Nottingham, England and Sarah
>> Townsend Sale. At the age of eighteen, his father arranged an
>> apprenticeship for him with the prosperous Green brothers and in 1764 he
>> married their sister, Sarah Emily Green, fifteen years his senior, in
>> Boston's old Trinity Church.[1]
>>  There
>> is some speculation that it was a marriage of convenience, arranged either
>> for social or economic reasons, or both. In any event Hickling fulfilled
>> his marital duty becoming the father of two children by his first wife.
>> Catherine Green Hickling was born in Salem in 1768 and William Green
>> Hickling was born in 1765. Their father soon left his family and located to
>> the Caribbean where he traded in molasses which he shipped back to his
>> father's distillery in Boston.[2]
>>  He must
>> have been an enterprising sort, for he perceived the commercial
>> possibilities in the Azores because in 1769 be was living in Ponta Delgada.
>> Thomas Hickling never returned to America and never lived anywhere else.
>>
>> He became one of the principal developers of the orange trade, the export
>> of oranges to England, which became the basis for the colossal fortunes of
>> many of São Miguel's socially prominent families and paid for the
>> construction of many a *palácio*, those grand manor houses with their
>> lovely English and French gardens still seen throughout the island. In 1820
>> Hickling exported nearly 5,700 crates or oranges and 2,000 crates of lemons
>> from Ponta Delgada. But the firm of his sons-in-law Ivens & Burnett
>> exported over 11,000 crates.[3]
>>  At the
>> height of the *orange age *93% of the oranges produced in São Miguel
>> were exported.  But the Hicklings and many other "gentlemen farmers"
>> were brought to financial ruin at the end of the century when the orange
>> trade came to an end, victim of a blight that first attacked the orange
>> groves in 1834, again in 1860 and finally destroyed the remaining groves at
>> the end of the century. The financial ruin resulted in a reduced standard
>> of living for these "gentlemen farmers", many of whom could no longer
>> afford the upkeep on their  lovely homes and gardens. Many can still be
>> seen in the suburbs surrounding Ponta Delgada and Lagoa,  their
>> dilapidated state a silent witness to both the greatness and the misery of
>> the age.[4]
>> 
>>
>> News traveled slowly and it must have been months before Hickling learned
>> that Sarah Green, the wife he had last seen twelve years earlier, had died
>> in Boston in May of 1774. He could not have mourned her death very much for
>> not long after, in February 1778,  the young widower married Suzanne
>> Sarah Falder of Philadelphia, fifteen years his junior. It must have been
>> love at first sight since the young Sarah just happened to be passing
>> through Ponta Delgada in the company of her father, Thomas Falder. Between
>> the time of their marriage and 1808 they produced 16 children, all born in
>> São Miguel, including two sets of twins.[5]
>>  Thus,
>> came into being the first generation of Yankee Azoreans.
>>
>> Throughout his lifetime on São Miguel, the Protestant Hickling was very
>> ecumenical; whenever a Protestant minister was unavailable at the frequent
>> arrivals of new Hicklings, he had them baptized in the Catholic Church.
>> [6] 
>>
>> In 1776 Thomas Hickling was appointed American Vice Consul in Ponta
>> Delgada, a post he held until his death some fi

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA Project News email

[Marilyn Thompson]

No I did not get your email or the Mother's Day email. They must be doing
something wrong

Marilyn

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I don't remember one and also checked my trash and don't see one.
>
> Susan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Did any existing FTDNA customers get the email that I sent through the
> FTDNA system regarding the DNA Project? It basically reminded people to
> upload their Gedcom, the project was growing, the conference in Salt Lake.
> And maybe a couple of other things.
>
> FTDNA said it went out. The few people I've asked said they didn't get it.
> So I need more than a few to tell me that they didn't get it.  Thanks! Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDna email

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Received my FTDNA email at 7:29


On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Finally, the email came through! Hopefully everyone received it and will
> follow the directions for getting their GEDCOMs up and available for
> matching with others in the Azores Project. Good luck...
>
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Marilyn Thompson]

I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records

   1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
   Add
   2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
   Add
   3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
   Add
   4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
   Add
   5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
   Add
   6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
   Add
   7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
   Add
   8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
   Add
   9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de
   Lobos, Funchal)
   Add
   10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
   Add
   11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
   Add
   12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
   Add
   13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
   Add
   14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
   Add
   15. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
   Add
   16. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
   Add
   17. Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz,
   Funchal)
   Add
   18. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz,
   Funchal)
   Add
   19. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
   Add
   20. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
   Add
   21. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
   Add
   22. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
   Add
   23. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)
   Add
   24. Registros paroquiais, 1589-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Maria Madalena (Madalena do Mar, Funchal)
   Add
   25. Registros paroquiais, 1590-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Caniçal, Funchal)
   Add
   26. Registros paroquiais, 1591-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Vicente (São Vicente, Funchal)
   Add
   27. Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Piedade (Canhas, Funchal)
   Add
   28. Registros paroquiais, 1592-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São Brás (Arco da Calheta, Funchal)
   Add
   29. Registros paroquiais, 1596-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito da Calheta,
   Funchal)
   Add
   30. Registros paroquiais, 1598-1911
   
   Author: Igreja Católica. São B

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

[Marilyn Thompson]

If you click on each link then scroll down a little you will see a camera.
Click on that and the digital images for that time period will come up.

I have no idea if all of the records for Madeira are there or not. It looks
like many are.  Family History Library link below:


https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=133722&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Portugal%2C%20Madeira%20(ilha)%22&subjectsOpen=332081-50

Hope this helps

Marilyn




2017-05-16 13:41 GMT-06:00 Marilyn Thompson :

> I just pulled up the catalog. This is the listing for Church Records
>
>1. Registros paroquiais, 1538-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/39378>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Assunção (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>2. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/16673>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Bento (Ribeira Brava, Funchal)
>Add
>3. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/16770>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Salvador (Santa Cruz, Funchal)
>Add
>4. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125244>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo Antão (Caniço, Funchal)
>Add
>5. Registros paroquiais, 1539-1914
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/124739>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Espírito Santo (Calheta, Funchal)
>Add
>6. Registros paroquiais, 1542-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125588>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Natividade (Faial, Funchal)
>Add
>7. Registros paroquiais, 1557-1950
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/126460>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santo António (Santo António, Funchal)
>Add
>8. Registros paroquiais, 1560-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/39752>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Gaula, Funchal)
>Add
>9. Registros paroquiais, 1562-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125402>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Graça (Estreito de Câmara de
>Lobos, Funchal)
>Add
>10. Registros paroquiais, 1565-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/39957>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Luz (Ponta do Sol, Funchal)
>Add
>11. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/17173>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Gonçalo (São Gonçalo, Funchal)
>Add
>12. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/40007>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Pedro (Funchal, Funchal)
>Add
>13. Registros paroquiais, 1568-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/126386>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Ana (Santana, Funchal)
>Add
>14. Registros paroquiais, 1570-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125069>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Sebastião (Câmara de Lobos, Funchal)
>Add
>15. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1910
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/62825>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santa Beatriz (Água de Pena, Funchal)
>Add
>16. Registros paroquiais, 1571-1959
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125775>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>Add
>17. Registros paroquiais, 1572-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/39216>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Conceição (Porto Moniz,
>Funchal)
>Add
>18. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/16090>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe (Porto da Cruz,
>Funchal)
>Add
>19. Registros paroquiais, 1577-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/39796>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Senhor Bom Jesus (Ponta Delgada, Funchal)
>Add
>20. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/17043>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Martinho (São Martinho, Funchal)
>Add
>21. Registros paroquiais, 1579-1941
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/126126>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São João Batista (Fajã da Ovelha, Funchal)
>Add
>22. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/37757>
>Author: Igreja Católica. São Roque (São Roque, Funchal)
>Add
>23. Registros paroquiais, 1587-1911
><https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/125990>
>Author: Igreja Católica. Santíssima Trindade (Tábua, Funchal)
&g

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports for São Jorge

[Marilyn Thompson]

My grandmother was from Sao Jorge. Her passport was issued from Sao Miguel.

I have no explanation why, but that is where hers was from. It was issued
in the early 1900s.

Marilyn

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Good luck!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rosemarie.  I started in Horta because the husband was from Fayal
>> and looked in 1882 and 1883 but didn't find him
>>
>> Then I remembered his wife was fm st Jorge so maybe that's where I'll
>> find them and learn what parishes they were from
>>
>> This is for my friend whose family comes from the Azores.   It turns out
>> one side of her family is from the Azores.
>>
>> Thanks😀😀
>>
>> Maria Elena
>>
>> On May 19, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>> They generally went to Terceira but I have found them in Horta also. I
>> would start with the Angra, Terceira passports and if you don't find them
>> there look in Horta's. Remember that some men just took a little boat out
>> to the steamer or sailboat to avoid being drafted into the service so they
>> didn't get a passport! Also if they were whalers, I've not seen them listed
>> anywhere either.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Maria Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does someone know where people from São Jorge went to get their
>>> passports?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Military flights to Lajes Air For e in Terceira

[Marilyn Thompson]

Sounds interesting. Do you have to be ex military to be able to do that?


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> I'm trying to get a military flight there and it's on a space available
> basis when the plane is flying there.
>
>  just wondering if someone on the list has used it and what their
> experience has been in terms of the "waiting List" going and returning to
> Dover.
>
>
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> The air field at Lajes is shared by both military and civilian flights.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone been able to use the military flights to Lajes Air Field in
>> Terceira?  They leave from New Jersey.  Were traveling on east coast and
>> called to see if we could get on a flight but have to wait 72 hrs  till
>> they get the schedule.  Since we're already out this way, we hoped we
>> could.  We were already planning to visit the Azores  for our 50th
>> anniversary while we can still be "healthy" enough to do it.  Not sure if
>> it will pan out.
>>
>> If we can get there, I'll let you know our experience in case someone
>> else is interested in doing this.
>>
>> Best to all,
>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Military flights to Lajes Air For e in Terceira

[Marilyn Thompson]

I had not heard of civilians taking military flights either that is why I
was asking.


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *One of the benefits of being retired from the military is that you and
> your dependents can travel Space-A. In other words if there is still empty
> seats after the active duty members are boarded the they will fill the
> aircraft with retirees. Civilians/non retirees are not eligible. *
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Friday, June 9, 2017 1:07 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Military flights to Lajes Air For e in
> Terceira
>
>
>
> I have never heard of civilians taking military flights. Sorry!
>
> On Jun 9, 2017 8:25 AM, "Marilyn Thompson"  wrote:
>
> Sounds interesting. Do you have to be ex military to be able to do that?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to get a military flight there and it's on a space available
> basis when the plane is flying there.
>
>
>
>  just wondering if someone on the list has used it and what their
> experience has been in terms of the "waiting List" going and returning to
> Dover.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Maria Elena
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> The air field at Lajes is shared by both military and civilian flights.
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone been able to use the military flights to Lajes Air Field in
> Terceira?  They leave from New Jersey.  Were traveling on east coast and
> called to see if we could get on a flight but have to wait 72 hrs  till
> they get the schedule.  Since we're already out this way, we hoped we
> could.  We were already planning to visit the Azores  for our 50th
> anniversary while we can still be "healthy" enough to do it.  Not sure if
> it will pan out.
>
> If we can get there, I'll let you know our experience in case someone else
> is interested in doing this.
>
> Best to all,
> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogical Conference and Research Trip, Aug. 29-Sept 1

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I am hoping to get to the conference. It will depend on my husbands health
at the time.

Marilyn Thompson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: *****Sao Jorge Marriage Index online

[Marilyn Thompson]

WOW that is quite the project. I am anxious to do some looking and finding.

Thank you to all who have helped in any way

Marilyn

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:23 PM, 'Doris Mello' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Great Job!
>
> Dee
>
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> I would like to give a special thank you to Louie Avila & Rosemarie
> Capodicci - the 'tireless machines' without whom this could never have been.
>
> Also  Mike Souza, Racquel Anderson,Linda Meneses, Kathy Cardoza for all of
> their hard work and devotion to this... this was truly a great
> collaboration, and we all learned so much.  It was a terrific opportunity,
> and I personally have grown so much at my ability to read the records, and
> also more knowledgeable of all the obscure names (both given and sur) on
> the island!!!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have ancestors from
that area.

Marilyn

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> I would think there would be interest in that.
>
> Kathy
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~
>
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
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> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca, Sao
> Jorge be of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.
>
> Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Marilyn,
> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before. This is
> just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas Historicas*
> for Calheta.
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have ancestors
>> from that area.
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>>
>>> I would think there would be interest in that.
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>> ~~~
>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>>
>>> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca, Sao
>>> Jorge be of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.
>>>
>>> Suzanne
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge- North East end slide off into the ocean

[Marilyn Thompson]

I remember being told about an area that slide off into the ocean. I do not
remember the time frame. At this moment I can not remember the name of the
area.

I believe some of my grandfather's family was from there.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Marilyn

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge- North East end slide off into the ocean

[Marilyn Thompson]

OK I found the name it was "Salte Verde, Sao Jorge"


On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> I remember being told about an area that slide off into the ocean. I do
> not remember the time frame. At this moment I can not remember the name of
> the area.
>
> I believe some of my grandfather's family was from there.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone?
>
> Marilyn
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Marilyn Thompson]

Just need to add to the clarification. I just chatted with an agent at
Family Search.

I wanted to share the information I received:

When FamilySearch acquires a collection to put online, the record owner of
the collection, such as a government agency, specifies the restriction
setting on the collection. There are some records that can only be viewed
at a Family History Center regardless of LDS or Non-Member account status.

My question to the FamilySearch Agent: So the government restricted the
online to members only?

Agents answer: yes, they only gave permission to the LDS Church to view
online, which extends to LDS membership. However, by contract, our
non-member patrons may view the same images online at a computer at a
Family History Center. Our goal is to provide free access to records to as
many as possible and still abide by the contracts set forth by records
holders. We realize it isn't a perfect system, but it gives millions access
to free records rather than the expense of traveling to the Family History
Library or other repositories

So it is the Azores Government that has put the restriction in place.

Marilyn Thompson



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Thanks for the clarification Joao.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *João Ventura
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:23 AM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued
>
>
>
> Indeed...
>
>
>
> Just to clarify:
>
>
>
> 1. Microfilms will no longer be orderable on a FHC - last day is August
> 31st (9 days from now). Presumably, they won't throw them away, at least
> maybe until the reader breaks down.
>
> 2. Current access on the Internet will not change. It will remain exactly
> as it is either via CCA or tombo.pt.
>
>
>
> What we're talking here is only that in some books in CCA, the quality is
> so low that to read the smudges you need to see the microfilm. Maybe they
> will eventually upgrade those books to a higher resolution in CCA. We can
> certainly ask them.
>
>
>
> However, if you're a Mormon, there's another way to view the microfilms
> online. Take for instance the Vila Franca do Campo microfilms:
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/382500 . If you scroll down
> and click on the 'camera' icon, you'll be able to see them online at the
> full resolution. And to clarify. It's not just a FamilySearch account -
> it's an LDS church member FamilySearch account - those have higher
> privileges inside the system allowing them to do temple ordinances. There's
> no way to get an account of this type without becoming a Mormon. If you
> have a FamilySearch account, or you're a FamilySearch indexer, you still
> are locked out of most Portuguese images.
>
>
>
> João Ventura
>
> http://tombo.pt/en
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

Ok Rosemarie I did not read all of your last post until just now. Where can
I find this list that you mentioned?  There is another list in *Notas
Historicas* for Calheta.



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> I thought you might have. Looking forward to seeing you Monday night if
> all goes well!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Marilyn,
>>> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before. This
>>> is just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas
>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have ancestors
>>>> from that area.
>>>>
>>>> Marilyn
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would think there would be interest in that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathy
>>>>> ~~~
>>>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca, Sao
>>>>> Jorge be of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Microfilms discontinued

[Marilyn Thompson]

Yes you should they mentioned that they have a bug in that part of the
system that they are trying to get corrected.

Marilyn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

I do have people in that area, but have not worked on that area for a  long
time. Maybe when I figure out who I should be looking for I could have you
look them up for me in the future.

Thanks for the information and the offer.

Marilyn T

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> The only place you can view that list is in the book, *Notas Historicas *and
> as far as I know it's not online anywhere. It may be at BYU? It's not at
> FHL. Do you have Calheta, Sao Jorge people that you are missing? If you
> give me some names, I can look them up in the index and see if they show up
> on the list. It is a long list!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok Rosemarie I did not read all of your last post until just now. Where
>> can I find this list that you mentioned?  There is another list in *Notas
>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought you might have. Looking forward to seeing you Monday night if
>>> all goes well!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>> rcap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marilyn,
>>>>> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before. This
>>>>> is just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas
>>>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have
>>>>>> ancestors from that area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marilyn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would think there would be interest in that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca,
>>>>>>> Sao Jorge be of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

These 2 links look exactly the same. Is it possible you put the same one
twice or is it just me? I am glad for the links.

Marilyn

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:48 AM,  wrote:

> I have Notas Historicas bookmarked.   Here are the links for  V1  and V2:
>
>
> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>
> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>
> B/c  I don't really read Portuguese, I couldn't tell you if this is the
> whole book or not.
>
> Suzanne
>
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> The only place you can view that list is in the book, *Notas Historicas *and
>> as far as I know it's not online anywhere. It may be at BYU? It's not at
>> FHL. Do you have Calheta, Sao Jorge people that you are missing? If you
>> give me some names, I can look them up in the index and see if they show up
>> on the list. It is a long list!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok Rosemarie I did not read all of your last post until just now. Where
>>> can I find this list that you mentioned?  There is another list in *Notas
>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought you might have. Looking forward to seeing you Monday night if
>>>> all goes well!
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>> rca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marilyn,
>>>>>> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before.
>>>>>> This is just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas
>>>>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have
>>>>>>> ancestors from that area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marilyn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would think there would be interest in that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca,
>>>>>>>> Sao Jorge be of interest to the forum?   It is in a word doc   format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks for the other link. I thought maybe it was just me.

I appreciate the information and am sure I will be using it in the future

Marilyn T

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Sme  wrote:

> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen.cfm
>
> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>
>
> It didn't paste over correctly.
>
> Here they are.
>
> Suzanne
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 6:48 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I have Notas Historicas bookmarked.   Here are the links for  V1  and V2:
>>
>>
>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>>
>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>>
>> B/c  I don't really read Portuguese, I couldn't tell you if this is the
>> whole book or not.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>>
>>> The only place you can view that list is in the book, *Notas Historicas
>>> *and as far as I know it's not online anywhere. It may be at BYU? It's
>>> not at FHL. Do you have Calheta, Sao Jorge people that you are missing? If
>>> you give me some names, I can look them up in the index and see if they
>>> show up on the list. It is a long list!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok Rosemarie I did not read all of your last post until just now. Where
>>>> can I find this list that you mentioned?  There is another list in *Notas
>>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought you might have. Looking forward to seeing you Monday night
>>>>> if all goes well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>>> rca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marilyn,
>>>>>>> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before.
>>>>>>> This is just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas
>>>>>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Marilyn Thompson >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I would like to have access to that victims list. I have
>>>>>>>> ancestors from that area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marilyn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kathy Cardoza 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would think there would be interest in that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kathy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>>>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Sme  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would the victims of the 9 July 1757 earthquake for Ribeira Seca,
>>>>&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Earthquake death list

[Marilyn Thompson]

Is this the book we are talking about:

Notas históricas: estudos sobre o Concelho da Calheta (S. Jorge)
[image: Front Cover]
Manuel de Azevedo da Cunha
<https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Manuel+de+Azevedo+da+Cunha%22>
, Artur Teodoro de Matos
<https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Artur+Teodoro+de+Matos%22>
Universidade dos Açores, 1981 - Calheta (Azores)
<https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=subject:%22Calheta+(Azores)%22&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0>
 - 1064 pages
<https://books.google.com/books?id=0hcXAQAAMAAJ&sitesec=reviews>

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:38 PM,  wrote:

> LusaWeb has notas historical caldera on the web site. I believe you can
> see the data in either English or Portuguese. I have read parts of the
> English version, If you do not understand Portuguese, it can become a hard
> read. I.e., Norte Pequeno become small north, Dias becomes days, etc.
> However, I could not find the index of the victims from Calheta earthquake
> that Rosemarie mention in a previous email. The closet hardcopy of the book
> to me is at U of C, Berkeley, the next closet is U of Indiana, the balance
> is the east coast according to worldcat.
>
> Joaquin Mndonca
>
> *From:* Marilyn Thompson 
> *Sent:* ‎Wednesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎23‎, ‎2017 ‎10‎:‎31‎ ‎AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Thanks for the other link. I thought maybe it was just me.
>
> I appreciate the information and am sure I will be using it in the future
>
> Marilyn T
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Sme  wrote:
>
>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen.cfm
>>
>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>>
>>
>> It didn't paste over correctly.
>>
>> Here they are.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 6:48 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> I have Notas Historicas bookmarked.   Here are the links for  V1  and V2:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>>>
>>> http://www.portugueseancestry.com/genresources/sjgen1.cfm
>>>
>>> B/c  I don't really read Portuguese, I couldn't tell you if this is the
>>> whole book or not.
>>>
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The only place you can view that list is in the book, *Notas
>>>> Historicas *and as far as I know it's not online anywhere. It may be
>>>> at BYU? It's not at FHL. Do you have Calheta, Sao Jorge people that you are
>>>> missing? If you give me some names, I can look them up in the index and see
>>>> if they show up on the list. It is a long list!
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok Rosemarie I did not read all of your last post until just now.
>>>>> Where can I find this list that you mentioned?  There is another list
>>>>> in *Notas Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>> rca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you might have. Looking forward to seeing you Monday night
>>>>>> if all goes well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>>>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Rosemarie I did miss seeing it. Now downloaded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci <
>>>>>>> rca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marilyn,
>>>>>>>> I saved it to my desktop. Here it is if you didn't see it before.
>>>>>>>> This is just Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge. There is another list in *Notas
>>>>>>>> Historicas* for Calheta.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gedmatch

[Marilyn Thompson]

*GEDCOM *(an acronym standing for Genealogical Data Communication) is of
exchanging genealogical data between different genealogy software.

*Gedmatch* is a site that you can compare your DNA to others who may have
tested their DNA at another company. You will need to upload your raw data
from the company you tested with to their site. You will also want to add
your GEDCOM [your family tree] to the site so others can see your ancestors
to compare to their ancestors to find where you match.

With Gedmatch you will find additional people that match you. It helps you
expand your matching results beyond the one company you tested with.

I hope this helps

Marilyn T

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:55 AM, David Leitz  wrote:

> Probably a dumb question, but what do Gedcom & Gedmatch stand for?
>
> Linda
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I have an appointment this morning and then the hospice thing, so I'll
>> answer later after lunch.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Military Records

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you for letting those of us who did not make it to the conference
know about this site.

Marilyn T

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> One thing new that we did learn in Salt Lake City, at the Conference, was
> that the Portuguese Military Records are being digitized and put online at
> this site:
> https://ahm-germil.exercito.pt/welcome
> At present the records only cover 1900--2000 but they are putting more on
> everyday so keep checking! Happy Hunting.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with brides name and those of her parents - Sao Jorge

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P91.html
 bottom left

In the body of the text it looks like Clara [ 6 full lines from the bottom
on the right hand side] but the margin looks like Roza. It was indexed as
Roza. I have her parents as Dionisio de Souza ___ and Ignes Teixeira _
*both_* defuncto.

Index says 11 May 1782

What else am I missing?

Thank you in advance
Marilyn T

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Another marriage Sao Jorge

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722_item1/P118.html

The index has this listed 2 times. I can not find his name on either page.

Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   118
1696-1722Calheta

Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   119
1696-1722Calheta


Obviously I am looking for the brides name. I have Maria Pereira from a
child's baptism record.


Thank you


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Corrections to Sao Jorge marriage index

[Marilyn Thompson]

Does anyone know who corrections should go to for the Sao Jorge marriage
index?

Index names the bride as *Roza* dos Anjos and it should be *Clara* dos Anjos


Manuel Goncalves Fagundes  Clara dos Anjos   11 May 1782  911764-1803
 Ribeira Seca


Thank you for this great finding tool


Marilyn T

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Corrections to Sao Jorge marriage index

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks I thought there had to be a way to do that. It is done

Marilyn T

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> Marilyn
>
> This is posted on the Sao Jorge Marriage Index page:
>
> To report an improperly transcribed entry please feel free to fill out the
>  *Report a Correction to The Sao Jorge Index*
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surveymonkey.com%2Fr%2FHNDQFB7&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnsy-DWVkI1OWd-94j28J_K3qesw>form
> as many times as you like (one time for each entry in question).
>
> That should do it for you.  :)
>
> Kathy
>
>
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know who corrections should go to for the Sao Jorge marriage
> index?
>
> Index names the bride as *Roza* dos Anjos and it should be *Clara* dos
> Anjos
>
>
> Manuel Goncalves Fagundes  Clara dos Anjos   11 May 1782  911764-1803
>Ribeira Seca
>
>
> Thank you for this great finding tool
>
>
> Marilyn T
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Extra set of eyes on baptism

[Marilyn Thompson]

WOW Suzanne I can't even tell for sure there is writing at the bottom of
the page let alone read it.

Marilyn T

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Sme  wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1716-1728/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1716-1728_item1/P36.html
>
> bottom right.   The year is 1718.
>
> Morning everyone.
>
> I need another set of eyes on this very faint baptismal.  I think her name
> is Teresa (Theresa).  I can't make out the parents or the date of birth.
> I think she was baptized on the 22nd.
>
> And I can't make out the godparents.   Any help on this would be greatly
> appreciated.  I hate to leave blank spaces in an index.
>
> Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furnas, Sao Miguel-Baptismal record help

[Marilyn Thompson]

Ursula is what I see. I used my paleography book for a reference

Marilyn T

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> I need some help with the name of the maternal grandmother- *???* Candida.
>
>
> *Left-side top, 8th line down:*
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PV-FURNAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P7.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] LIST OF PORTUGUESE NAMES

[Marilyn Thompson]

Try this link:[sorry I don't know how to make them little]
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ps-services-us-east-1-914248642252/s3/research-wiki-elasticsearch-prod-s3bucket/images/e/e7/Basic-Portuguese-Paleography-3.pdf

It will take you into the paleography abbreviations and name lists

Marilyn T

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Surnames (last names) can be found in the Guill book (out of print). I
> believe some given names are in the back of paleography on the Azores
> GenWeb. Someone else will have to provide the links as my computer has gone
> back to the manufacturer for a warranty repair and the information is on my
> computer. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Flights NY JFK to Ponta Delgada or Lisbon May 2018 Delta Airlines

[Marilyn Thompson]

That is great information. I did not see it. My daughter lives just south
of Atlanta so I could visit her and either going or coming or both.

We will see what the future will bring

Marilyn T

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> I saw that and it looks good if it all works out. I remember in 1966 my
> great aunts and uncles went to visit the Azores and they flew in to JFK and
> my husband and I went out to the airport and visited with them during their
> 6 hour layover!! Don't know if there will be that much of a layover for the
> West Coast people or not!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 12:28 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> FYIif you are going to Azores next year, Delta is instituting new
>> flights to Lisbon or Ponta Delgada stating May 2018 from JFK. 5 days a week
>> except Tuesdays and Thursdays .   The reverse route does not take place on
>> Mondays and Wednesdays.  They will have daily connections between Atlanta
>> and Lisbon.  Which should make connections easier for those of us on the
>> west coastI hope.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Jersey Marriage Records

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks for the link. I do not know of anyone but I have it bookmarks for
future possibilities

Marilyn T

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Maria Sousa 
wrote:

> Wow, this is great!  I found MYSELF!
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> This is a major win for genealogists as NJ has always been near
>> impossible to get any records:
>> INTRODUCING THE NEW JERSEY
>> MARRIAGE INDEX, 1901-2016
>>
>> Hello again, from your favorite open records activists at Reclaim The
>> Records
>> !
>> Do you remember how at the end of our last newsletter
>> 
>>  we
>> promised you *116 years* of brand new records, coming soon to a computer
>> near you? Well, we might have made a tiny mistake, because we stink at
>> math. It's only *115 years*. And here they are!
>>
>> [image: New Jersey Marriage Index]
>>
>> Introducing the *NEW JERSEY MARRIAGE INDEX, 1901-2016*!
>> 
>>  These
>> records are now totally digital, and totally free -- *forever!* Now you
>> can research anyone who got married in the Garden State right from your
>> home, still in your pajamas.
>>
>> We've posted these images
>> 
>>  at
>> our favorite online library, the Internet Archive (archive.org). You can
>> skip right to any year you want and flip through all the images, or you can
>> download the records to your hard drive as JPG's, PDF's, and/or other
>> formats. Each file is listed *year-by-year* (or occasionally by a year
>> range), and then the marriages are listed *alphabetically by surname*.
>> If you have any people you are tracing from NJ during these years go
>> searching!!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
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>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Museu da Emigração Açoriana (Azorean Imigration Museum) - Ribeira Grande

[Marilyn Thompson]

I can read or at least pick out record information, but I can not tell
which island this is about. Can someone help me out? please


Marilyn T

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Maria Sousa 
wrote:

> I am sorry to hear that it was taken down.  I had even emailed them
> looking for a record in 1969 which they sent me.  I can understand the
> privacy issues.  On the record I requested, everyone is still living.   At
> the time, they told me they hadn't reached 1969 yet..  They were at 1964 or
> 65.
>
> I also have some that I downloaded that were personal, but was going back
> to the site to make family connections.  Oh well, I am happy I have the
> records I kept.
>
> Thank you for the information and thank you Eliseu for the offer, but
> there is no one in particular that I need.
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:38 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What I can do about is to go there and ask for information on specific
>> records you may send me.
>>
>> eliseu
>>
>>
>>
>> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
>> de *Cheri Mello
>> *Enviada:* quarta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2017 05:15
>> *Para:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Museu da Emigração Açoriana
>> (Azorean Imigration Museum) - Ribeira Grande
>>
>>
>>
>> All of their records have been taken down. Eliseu knows the most about
>> that web site. Mel Lassalle downloaded some of the actual passaporte paper
>> work that included photos. She did this for her immediate ancestors. I
>> don't know how recent the information was. Something like the mid-1900s
>> (1940s, 1950s somewhere around there if I remember correctly).
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Baptisms

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you to Suzanne and to Kathy for making this index available to us.

Marilyn Thompson

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> I have updated the indexes for the Ribeira Seca Baptisms on the Azores
> GenWeb site to 1728 so if you’re researching this freguesia, you might want
> to check it out. Please thank Suzanne Edvalson for all her work on this
> project and that she is generously sharing it with the rest of us.
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-
> villages/sao-jorge/ribeira-seca-baptisms-1623/
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software Programs

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https://www.ancquest.com/index.htm

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On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>
> Everyone should have a genealogy software program on their computer where
> they maintain their tree. These programs give you complete control and have
> many features not available on the online tree "programs" which are more
> for display purposes. Anything that you change in your personal program can
> be uploaded to the online sites.
>
> Here's a couple of genealogy programs with current sales.
>
> RootsMagic for $30 USD (bundle of stuff):
> www.rootsmagic.com/holidayoffer
>
> Also, Heredis (I forget about this one as there's no user group in my area)
> https://shop.heredis.com/
>
> As always, there's Legacy Family Tree and their Standard Edition is free:
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one only)

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Merry Christmas and a Happy Successful Research Year along with everything
else.
Marilyn

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 8:03 AM, carabela via Azores Genealogy <
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> Merry Christmas & happy, healthy New Year to you all! I hope everyone has
> a wonderful day!
> Sherry
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> -Original Message-
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> To: azores 
> Sent: Mon, Dec 25, 2017 6:56 am
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this
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> Merry Christmas dear friends and cousins!
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Dec 24, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Bernadette Loebs  wrote:
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> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
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> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use
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>
> Feliz Natal e Feliz Ano Novo!
>
> Nancy Jean Baptista
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Research Assistance needed in Eden Township, Alameda Co, California

[Marilyn Thompson]

Cheri

Send me in a private message what it is you are looking for and I will see
what I can do for you.

Marilyn T

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The years I want aren't on Ancestry. For either newspaper. I don't if that
> means they weren't digitized or they don't exist. :(
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 8:33 PM, IslandRoutes 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't have access but they are probably in either the Oakland Tribune
>> or the Hayward Daily Review.  My bet is the Oakland Tribune which was more
>> widely used in the 1940s.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 7:23:57 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a DNA person who needs help making a tree.
>>>
>>> I figured part of it out, but I'm stuck in Eden Township in Alameda
>>> County in California.
>>>
>>> Can anyone look up obituaries for me in 1948 and 1949? I can email all
>>> the details.
>>> Thanks, Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Please help me verify Parents

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P175.html


Record #35 Isabel  birth date 2 May 1867  baptism: 2 June 1867

father: Jose Antonio Goncalves   mother: Marianna Jose

Paternal: Manoel Gonsalves Fagundes & Clara dos Anjos

Maternal: Maria Victorina single

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html

Marriage record #15 This is the marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and
Mariana Jose 18 Dec 1862.

It looks like the parents match up. Can someone help me with the additional
names?  I see what looks like Manoel Teixeira and Maria Victorina. Is that
correct?

Thank you for your help.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help me verify Parents

[Marilyn Thompson]

Is there anything in the marriage that gives any clue as to the age of the
bride and groom?



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> It looks like in the marriage, the bride is the legitimate daughter of
> Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina. Yet in the baptism they say the mom
> (bride) is the illegitimate daughter. Something is weird. Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P175.html
>>
>>
>> Record #35 Isabel  birth date 2 May 1867  baptism: 2 June 1867
>>
>> father: Jose Antonio Goncalves   mother: Marianna Jose
>>
>> Paternal: Manoel Gonsalves Fagundes & Clara dos Anjos
>>
>> Maternal: Maria Victorina single
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html
>>
>> Marriage record #15 This is the marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and
>> Mariana Jose 18 Dec 1862.
>>
>> It looks like the parents match up. Can someone help me with the
>> additional names?  I see what looks like Manoel Teixeira and Maria
>> Victorina. Is that correct?
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help

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 goo.gl/nNMJc3  left side of the page. It is very light and hard to see.

Groom: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes
Bride: Clara dos Anjos

Date I am not sure of: September 1792 not sure on the day.

I can see dates in three different places in this record. Any and all
additional information that is included would be great.

Thank you for your help.

Marilyn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help me verify Parents

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you Cheri that is what I was reading too

Thank you Rosemarie for the ages. He had to have lied about his age
according to the baptismal record I found for him. Her age is correct.



On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> ​Marilyn, line 7--elle idade 58 annos, line 11--ella 22 annos. ​
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there anything in the marriage that gives any clue as to the age of
>> the bride and groom?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like in the marriage, the bride is the legitimate daughter of
>>> Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina. Yet in the baptism they say the mom
>>> (bride) is the illegitimate daughter. Something is weird. Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>>> TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P175.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Record #35 Isabel  birth date 2 May 1867  baptism: 2 June 1867
>>>>
>>>> father: Jose Antonio Goncalves   mother: Marianna Jose
>>>>
>>>> Paternal: Manoel Gonsalves Fagundes & Clara dos Anjos
>>>>
>>>> Maternal: Maria Victorina single
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>>> TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html
>>>>
>>>> Marriage record #15 This is the marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and
>>>> Mariana Jose 18 Dec 1862.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the parents match up. Can someone help me with the
>>>> additional names?  I see what looks like Manoel Teixeira and Maria
>>>> Victorina. Is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please help me verify Parents

[Marilyn Thompson]

Sorry for all of the requests. I have found some dates that may indicate I
have wrong information in my tree. So I am trying to make sure of my paper
trail. I really appreciate the help.
With that said I have another marriage record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves. I
can tell it is him as his parents are named. Not sure after that.

It looks like he married___  _ widow of Jose Silveira
_ marriage date: 8 October 1829?  Any additional information is
appreciated

goo.gl/8C7ur2left side of the page

Marilyn

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> Thank you Cheri that is what I was reading too
>
> Thank you Rosemarie for the ages. He had to have lied about his age
> according to the baptismal record I found for him. Her age is correct.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:55 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> ​Marilyn, line 7--elle idade 58 annos, line 11--ella 22 annos. ​
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anything in the marriage that gives any clue as to the age of
>>> the bride and groom?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like in the marriage, the bride is the legitimate daughter of
>>>> Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina. Yet in the baptism they say the mom
>>>> (bride) is the illegitimate daughter. Something is weird. Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>>>> TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P175.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Record #35 Isabel  birth date 2 May 1867  baptism: 2 June 1867
>>>>>
>>>>> father: Jose Antonio Goncalves   mother: Marianna Jose
>>>>>
>>>>> Paternal: Manoel Gonsalves Fagundes & Clara dos Anjos
>>>>>
>>>>> Maternal: Maria Victorina single
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>>>> TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Marriage record #15 This is the marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and
>>>>> Mariana Jose 18 Dec 1862.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the parents match up. Can someone help me with the
>>>>> additional names?  I see what looks like Manoel Teixeira and Maria
>>>>> Victorina. Is that correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your help.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you so much for all of your help.

I did not find a translation for JR's word spelling. I did look up groom in
my dictionary and was given the word cavalariço and it does also mean
bride. So maybe the word in the document is similar in mean both groom and
bride


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I knew novia & novio for bride and groom. I don't understand how "o
> contrehente" and "o contrehente" is bride and groom when it's the same
> word. The bride should at least have an "a" there. Is that the correct
> spelling? I can't get it to translate. Thanks.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM, JR  wrote:
>
>> Those are baptism dates. One says o contrehente (groom) was baptised Sept
>> 10- 1792, the other, o contrehente (bride) was baptised July 18- 1805.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:56:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> 23 Sept 1827. I'm on the 15th line. About 4th line from the bottom is 10
>>> Sept 1792 and then 18 July 1805.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what's going on with that record. Hopefully someone who is
>>> fluent can help.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> goo.gl/nNMJc3  left side of the page. It is very light and hard to see.
>>>>
>>>> Groom: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes
>>>> Bride: Clara dos Anjos
>>>>
>>>> Date I am not sure of: September 1792 not sure on the day.
>>>>
>>>> I can see dates in three different places in this record. Any and all
>>>> additional information that is included would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Marilyn
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help

[Marilyn Thompson]

More questions: What is the last word on the first line?  Do both father
and son have the same name? [Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes?]

What is the brides name? I originally thought this was the marriage of  Manuel
Gonsalves Fagundes and Clara dos  Anjos. Now I am thinking it is the
marriage of their son to _

Am I totally off base?


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> Thank you so much for all of your help.
>
> I did not find a translation for JR's word spelling. I did look up groom
> in my dictionary and was given the word cavalariço and it does also mean
> bride. So maybe the word in the document is similar in mean both groom and
> bride
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I knew novia & novio for bride and groom. I don't understand how "o
>> contrehente" and "o contrehente" is bride and groom when it's the same
>> word. The bride should at least have an "a" there. Is that the correct
>> spelling? I can't get it to translate. Thanks.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> Those are baptism dates. One says o contrehente (groom) was baptised
>>> Sept 10- 1792, the other, o contrehente (bride) was baptised July 18- 1805.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:56:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 23 Sept 1827. I'm on the 15th line. About 4th line from the bottom is
>>>> 10 Sept 1792 and then 18 July 1805.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what's going on with that record. Hopefully someone who is
>>>> fluent can help.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> goo.gl/nNMJc3  left side of the page. It is very light and hard to
>>>>> see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Groom: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes
>>>>> Bride: Clara dos Anjos
>>>>>
>>>>> Date I am not sure of: September 1792 not sure on the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see dates in three different places in this record. Any and all
>>>>> additional information that is included would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marilyn
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you Margaret. That was the conclusion I had come to also. I had
figured out the brides name and that of her mother. The bride's father's
name was only ?s.

I have not done Azores record for a long time. Thank you again for your
help

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Margaret Vicente <
margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It says:
>
> 1. - Manuel Gonsalves/Gonçalves Fagundes son of another Manuel Gonçalves
> Fagundes and of his mother Clara dos Anjos.
>
> 2. - Bride: Ana Umbelina, daughter of Francisco de Sousa Aguiar and of his
> wife Maria de Sao Jose
>
> Yes, it is the marriage of their son.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> More questions: What is the last word on the first line?  Do both father
>> and son have the same name? [Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes?]
>>
>> What is the brides name? I originally thought this was the marriage of  
>> Manuel
>> Gonsalves Fagundes and Clara dos  Anjos. Now I am thinking it is the
>> marriage of their son to _
>>
>> Am I totally off base?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you so much for all of your help.
>>>
>>> I did not find a translation for JR's word spelling. I did look up groom
>>> in my dictionary and was given the word cavalariço and it does also mean
>>> bride. So maybe the word in the document is similar in mean both groom and
>>> bride
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I knew novia & novio for bride and groom. I don't understand how "o
>>>> contrehente" and "o contrehente" is bride and groom when it's the same
>>>> word. The bride should at least have an "a" there. Is that the correct
>>>> spelling? I can't get it to translate. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM, JR  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Those are baptism dates. One says o contrehente (groom) was baptised
>>>>> Sept 10- 1792, the other, o contrehente (bride) was baptised July 18- 
>>>>> 1805.
>>>>>
>>>>> JR
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:56:57 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 23 Sept 1827. I'm on the 15th line. About 4th line from the bottom is
>>>>>> 10 Sept 1792 and then 18 July 1805.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what's going on with that record. Hopefully someone who
>>>>>> is fluent can help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> goo.gl/nNMJc3  left side of the page. It is very light and hard to
>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Groom: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundes
>>>>>>> Bride: Clara dos Anjos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date I am not sure of: September 1792 not sure on the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can see dates in three different places in this record. Any and
>>>>>>> all additional information that is included would be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marilyn
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[AZORES-Genealogy] I need help with another marriage, Please and Thank you

[Marilyn Thompson]

This one is for Dionisio de Sousa Machado and Ines Teixeira. I have the
date as 20 Feb 1757 from the Sao Jorge marriage index [Thank you whoever
made this index].

I see what looks like a date   2 November but I do not see a year.

Are the parents listed? and which parish are they from?

goo.gl/jzmV3ubottom right side

Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptismal record

[Marilyn Thompson]

If you are referring to the right page: It looks like it says his name and
his wife, Rosa Jactha

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Scott A,
>
> Can you sent the link from the CCA site where your found this? I can't
> enlarge it. It just looks like a book with lines. Also let us know which
> record. Either number (if numbered) or left, bottom right, etc. Maybe
> someone else can enlarge it and see.
>
> It sounds like you are trying to say "jornaleiro" for a journeyman. But I
> can't see the document. Maybe someone else can. Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Scott Edward Anderson <
> greenskep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have my great-grandfather's baptismal record here and I'm trying to
>> interpret what it was after his father's name, Manuel Rodrigues
>> Casquilha...the next word looks like "jornalismo" or something like
>> that...can anyone make it out?
>>
>> Muito obrigado,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Urzelina, Sao Jorge Confession Rolls

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you Kathy. I have never tried to use those records. I hope to use
them soon


On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:02 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Thanks, Kathy!
>
>
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>> I have uploaded some new info and links to Urzelina, Sao Jorge Confession
>> Rolls. http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages
>> /sao-jorge/confession-rolls.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Kathy Cardoza
>>
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>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Weird name of the bride, maybe?

[Marilyn Thompson]

No link attached


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:

> Left page, second obit for Mathias Benavides
>
> 6 line fm bottom-
>
>  can someone make out the name of his wife?  Norosa ??
>
>
> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Webpage

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Thanks I have bookmarked it so I can look at it in the future


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> Beautiful!
>
> Thank you all for this invaluable resource.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searchable Azores church records on MyHeritage?

[Marilyn Thompson]

 If I remember right, the restrictions are put on by the owners of the
records. The LDS church has been granted permission for its members to view
the records. Thus the need for an LDS login.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:32 AM Aaron Pereira 
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> Hello,
> I’m at FHC a few times a week and its still the same.  In order to access
> the Azorean records from FHC, you have to be a member of the LDS.  Like
> others have mentioned, I usually will ask a member to login using their
> account.  I posted a screen shot of the message received when trying to
> access the records as a non-member.  Its doesn’t hurt to keep checking
> though.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Four Island Death Index 1911-1956

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:37 PM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
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> How amazing!! Thank you!
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
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> There has been a new resource added to the Azores GenWeb. It is a death
> index, covering the islands of Corvo, Faial, Flores, and Pico for the years
> 1911-1956. It’s a searchable database index, allowing researchers to search
> by any field or combination of fields ….. date, name, council, and island.
> Check it out here:
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>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Calheta Sao Jorge Death Index

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you so much for putting this online and available to all of us
searching Sao Jorge.

Marilyn T


On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:06 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Good Morning all,
> The Death Index for the Concelho of Calheta Sao Jorge is now up on the
> saojorgegenealogy.org site. We are working on the Councelho of Velas, Sao
> Jorge but it is not yet ready. Remember, the only villages on this index
> are: Calheta, Norte Pequeno, Ribeira Seca, Santo Antao and Topo. Remember
> also, sometimes the Priests put in the de, da before the names and
> sometimes they didn't so you may have to try different combinations of
> names. As with the Marriage Indexes of Sao Jorge and Terceira, the modern
> spellings were used.
> Happy Hunting,
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA uncovers an unknown line

[Marilyn Thompson]

It is amazing what we can learn using DNA.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:37 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Thanks, Cheri, an interesting story.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:25 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)
>>
>> Melody Lassalle (Mel) wrote an article about her 4-great grandfather. His
>> wife died at 51. She never knew he went on to remarry and had another
>> family until a DNA match came along. You can read more about it here:
>> https://goo.gl/fWKyex
>> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) interview on Houston Television

[Marilyn Thompson]

I agree with Rosemarie, this is the best explanation of the differences in
sibling dna.

Thanks for share this Cheri

Marilyn T

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wrote:

> Very good! I like his explanation of the deck of cards being shuffled to
> explain the difference in siblings dna.
>
> Rosemarie
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
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> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 8:50 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)
>>
>> Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is interviewed on Houston
>> TV, presenting the results of host, Deborah Duncan:
>> https://goo.gl/zDM9wL
>> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) interview on Houston Television

[Marilyn Thompson]

I think that comes from people doing medical genetic matching. Like a donor
match, that one is done as blood tests.

No pokes for us genealogists, just swabs or spit

Marilyn T

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The host of the news clip said something about DNA samples being swabs or
> blood...I don't know why she said that. She did a swab test. FTDNA, My
> Heritage, and Living DNA do swabs. Only AncestryDNA and 23 and Me do
> saliva. No one in the genealogy DNA industry uses blood. I don't know why
> some people still think that!
>
>
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:51 AM Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Rosemarie, this is the best explanation of the differences
>> in sibling dna.
>>
>> Thanks for share this Cheri
>>
>> Marilyn T
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 10:18 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very good! I like his explanation of the deck of cards being shuffled to
>>> explain the difference in siblings dna.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 8:50 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes)
>>>>
>>>> Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is interviewed on Houston
>>>> TV, presenting the results of host, Deborah Duncan:
>>>> https://goo.gl/zDM9wL
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Verde - Sao Jorge Records

[Marilyn Thompson]

Does anyone know where the Salt Verde Records would be located?

I have a map that shows Salt Verde on the North side of Sao Jorge toward
the Santa Antao end of the island

Marilyn Thompson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Verde - Sao Jorge Records

[Marilyn Thompson]

Sorry I did it from a faulty memory and did not take the time to pull out
the map. Back to you question. Where would the records be? Would they have
been in Salto Verde?

My understanding is the area no longer exists that it fell off the island.
Is that correct or was I misinformed?

Marilyn T



On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:10 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Ok it was missing a letter. Salto is the Portuguese word. Thanks
>
> On Nov 29, 2018 4:21 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri, salt is a Portuguese word because the letter “o” is mute to the
>> untrained ear.  It may sound like salT but it is salTo.  The place is Fajã
>> do Salto Verde.  It’s on the North side, Topo.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>>
>> Could it be Poço Verde? There is an area of Topo with that name. (A
>> street or road by that name in the postal code index.)
>>
>> Look for it here:
>>
>> https://www.geopostcodes.com/Topo_Nossa_Senhora_do_Rosario
>>
>> At any rate, aren’t the earlier records for Santo Antao under Topo? I’d
>> look there.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> On Thursday, November 29, 2018, Marilyn Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know where the Salt Verde Records would be located?
>>>
>>> I have a map that shows Salt Verde on the North side of Sao Jorge toward
>>> the Santa Antao end of the island
>>>
>>> Marilyn Thompson
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Heritage DNA Transfers Extended Until Sunday, December 16th, 2018

[Marilyn Thompson]

I had to try 2 times to get the download to go through. I am sure it has to
do with the number of people transferring data. The second time it only
took about 3 minutes and then it popped up that it was done.

Sure glad it was extended until the 16th of December.
Marilyn T

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:44 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I am responding to the My Heritage thread since the deadline is now Dec.
> 16th.
>
> Gordon S,
> Amazon DNA? Did you mean AncestryDNA? Ancestry DNA tests about half the
> markers of FTDNA and My Heritage (FTDNA and My Heritage uses the same chip
> of about 700,000 markers). So your match results for FTDNA and MyHeritage
> would be similar (based on the company database). If you want more matches,
> especially distant (3rd, 4th, 5th cousins), you need to test on FTDNA's
> chip or My Heritage's chip (both are the same). Both are on sale now.
>
> FTM (Family Tree Maker) and Legacy Family Tree are genealogy computer
> programs. That's a different topic for a different thread.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 9:29 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>>
>> Thanks to Ally Chacon for sharing. Information taken from My Heritage's
>> blog below:
>> ===
>>
>> Free DNA Uploads — Deadline Extended!
>>
>>- By Esther ·
>>- December 1, 2018
>>-  · DNA 
>>
>> Ever since MyHeritage began offering DNA services, we have provided our
>> users the ability to upload their DNA data for free . These users then
>> received DNA Matches and ethnicity estimates on MyHeritage for free, a
>> unique benefit not offered by any of the other major companies.
>>
>> We have just extended our deadline for free DNA uploads to December 16,
>> 2018. As of this date, our policy regarding DNA uploads will change. DNA
>> Matching will remain free for uploaded DNA data, but unlocking additional
>> DNA features will require an extra payment for DNA results uploaded after
>> this date.
>>
>> Upload your DNA data for free
>> 
>>
>> All DNA data that was uploaded to MyHeritage in the past, and all DNA
>> data that is uploaded now and prior to December 16, 2018, will continue to
>> enjoy full access to all DNA features for free. These uploads will be
>> grandfathered in and will remain free.
>>
>> Viewing family trees of your DNA Matches or accessing the 9 billion
>> historical records that are found on MyHeritage is optional and requires a
>> paid subscription plan. Some advanced features in the DNA Match review will
>> also require a subscription, such as viewing matches and ethnicities that
>> you share with your DNA Matches.
>>
>> You can upload DNA data from Ancestry, Family Tree DNA’s Family Finder
>> test, 23andMe (any versions including v5) or Living DNA. Instructions for
>> exporting your data and uploading it to MyHeritage are provided on our
>> upload page.
>>
>> Don’t delay uploading your DNA data to MyHeritage now
>> ,
>> while all DNA features are free (and they will remain free for you).
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Putting Azores plus the island in your surname field on ftdna

[Marilyn Thompson]

I signed into my FTDNA account and added Azores and Sao Jorge to see who I
might find. It was interesting that I only had a total of 5 matches show up.

With that being said does the program recognize a difference between Azores
and Acores? I know I have many more matches that extend to the islands.
I have not gone back it yet and just put Azores. I am guessing that will
make a big difference
Marilyn T

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> Hi Cheri;  Just wanted to say that I am seldom able to find the connection
> on dna matches and have been very frustrated by that fact.  I so far, went
> to one of the profiles I manage on FTDNA and put Azores in the surname
> field and my islands in the location field.  Presto, I found a match and
> was able to locate our connection!  Pretty exciting
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Putting Azores plus the island in your surname field on ftdna

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks that was the anticipated answer


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:11 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> No, you have to type in Azores and Acores. A "z" is a different letter
> than a "c" in their computer programming world. Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:55 PM Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> I signed into my FTDNA account and added Azores and Sao Jorge to see who
>> I might find. It was interesting that I only had a total of 5 matches show
>> up.
>>
>> With that being said does the program recognize a difference between
>> Azores and Acores? I know I have many more matches that extend to the
>> islands.
>> I have not gone back it yet and just put Azores. I am guessing that will
>> make a big difference
>> Marilyn T
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:28 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cheri;  Just wanted to say that I am seldom able to find the
>>> connection on dna matches and have been very frustrated by that fact.  I so
>>> far, went to one of the profiles I manage on FTDNA and put Azores in the
>>> surname field and my islands in the location field.  Presto, I found a
>>> match and was able to locate our connection!  Pretty exciting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Accessing newer birth, marriage, death records (1912- forward) in Pico and Faial

[Marilyn Thompson]

I went to the Civil Registry on Sao Jorge years ago. I wanted some birth
and death records. They would not search, but I had at least about dates.
We were able to find all the records I wanted. The cost was not too much.

Marilyn

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 9:46 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
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> Deb,
>
> Report back about how it worked to do it yourself.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:00 PM 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Angela, thank you.
>>
>> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!*
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2019, 8:18:31 PM PDT, Ângela Loura <
>> angelalo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Deb,
>>
>> You can go to the local office and ask for the copies. I think the fee
>> for each document is 20 euros.
>>
>> 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu no
>> dia sábado, 27/04/2019 à(s) 01:51:
>>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> I don't want to hire someone.  I am wondering if I can go to the
>> appropriate office and request a copy of records for my great grandparents,
>> for example, who died after 1911.
>>
>> Deb
>>
>>
>> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!ri*
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2019, 5:34:23 PM PDT, Cheri Mello <
>> gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> A list of researchers for hire can be found here:
>> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/researchers-available-for.html
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> (Also posted on Faial Genealogy - Genealogica Faial Facebook page)
>>
>> Does anyone know if a person can gain access to newer birth, marriage,
>> and/or death records (from 1912-present) for relatives in the Azores who
>> have passed? My family is primarily from Faial, then Pico. We will be
>> visiting those islands and Sao Miguel. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Topo Marriage

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1756-1795_item1/P132.html
  top left

I used the SJ marriage index to find this marriage. It is for Antonio Jose
Machado and Maria Silveira. Is there any parent information so that I can
be sure it is the right couple? It is the right time frame for the couple I
am seeking.

Thank you
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note

[Marilyn Thompson]

Right page
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P65.html


This is what I have date of marriage: 11 Aug 1804 in Topo
 Antonio Luiz son of Manuel Luiz Pereira and Isabel ___  Topo

Angela Marianna daughter of Manuel Silveira ___ and Anna Maria Do
Rozario   Ribeira Seca

I can see that it looks like dates in the margin, but do not know what they
are for

Thanks you for your help

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you to all that gives me another generation and birthdates. Hooray!!

Marilyn

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> My apologies, gave you the opposite record.  Here’s their birthdates. Re
> An.to Luiz com Angella Marianna.  Born: His May 12 1782, Hers Mar 28 1783.
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *July 1, 2019 8:01 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note
>
>
>
> Duh, yes, Angela got it. Should have compared the "P" to Parish in the
> line below. It is one funny looking G though!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:59 PM Ângela Loura  wrote:
>
> Isabel d'Oliveira
>
> Manuel Silveira Gregório
>
>
>
> Marilyn Thompson  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/07/2019
> à(s) 23:54:
>
> Right page
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P65.html
>
>
>
>
> This is what I have date of marriage: 11 Aug 1804 in Topo
>
>  Antonio Luiz son of Manuel Luiz Pereira and Isabel ___  Topo
>
> Angela Marianna daughter of Manuel Silveira ___ and Anna Maria Do
> Rozario   Ribeira Seca
>
> I can see that it looks like dates in the margin, but do not know what
> they are for
>
> Thanks you for your help
>
> Marilyn T
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note

[Marilyn Thompson]

I looked up the baptism for Angela and her father is listed as Manuel
Silveira Gregorio

Thanks again Margaret

Marilyn

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:58 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

> Thank you to all that gives me another generation and birthdates. Hooray!!
>
> Marilyn
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:27 PM Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
>> My apologies, gave you the opposite record.  Here’s their birthdates. Re
>> An.to Luiz com Angella Marianna.  Born: His May 12 1782, Hers Mar 28 1783.
>>
>>
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Cheri Mello 
>> *Sent: *July 1, 2019 8:01 PM
>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note
>>
>>
>>
>> Duh, yes, Angela got it. Should have compared the "P" to Parish in the
>> line below. It is one funny looking G though!
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:59 PM Ângela Loura 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Isabel d'Oliveira
>>
>> Manuel Silveira Gregório
>>
>>
>>
>> Marilyn Thompson  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/07/2019
>> à(s) 23:54:
>>
>> Right page
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P65.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is what I have date of marriage: 11 Aug 1804 in Topo
>>
>>  Antonio Luiz son of Manuel Luiz Pereira and Isabel ___  Topo
>>
>> Angela Marianna daughter of Manuel Silveira ___ and Anna Maria Do
>> Rozario   Ribeira Seca
>>
>> I can see that it looks like dates in the margin, but do not know what
>> they are for
>>
>> Thanks you for your help
>>
>> Marilyn T
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note

[Marilyn Thompson]

I am just starting to do research on them. I just found their names a
marriage record for my relative, Maria Victorina.

Do you have move information for them that you would share?

Marilyn T

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:47 PM 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Manuel Silveira Gregório and Angela Mariana are my ancestors
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
> My apologies, gave you the opposite record.  Here’s their birthdates. Re
> An.to Luiz com Angella Marianna.  Born: His May 12 1782, Hers Mar 28 1783.
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *July 1, 2019 8:01 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topo marriage side note
>
>
>
> Duh, yes, Angela got it. Should have compared the "P" to Parish in the
> line below. It is one funny looking G though!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 4:59 PM Ângela Loura  wrote:
>
> Isabel d'Oliveira
>
> Manuel Silveira Gregório
>
>
>
> Marilyn Thompson  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/07/2019
> à(s) 23:54:
>
> Right page
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P65.html
>
>
>
>
> This is what I have date of marriage: 11 Aug 1804 in Topo
>
>  Antonio Luiz son of Manuel Luiz Pereira and Isabel ___  Topo
>
> Angela Marianna daughter of Manuel Silveira ___ and Anna Maria Do
> Rozario   Ribeira Seca
>
> I can see that it looks like dates in the margin, but do not know what
> they are for
>
> Thanks you for your help
>
> Marilyn T
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[AZORES-Genealogy]

[Marilyn Thompson]

Bottom Right  and extends to the next page- Margarida
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792_item1/P64.html


Margarida Rosa filha Antonio Machado de Aguiar and _(is the
mother listed?)
I don’t know if this is the right one or not
Her marriage has what looked like 13 Oct 1790 as her birthdate in the
margin.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P174.html



Manuel Teixeira Nunes birth date 8 Oct 1790?   not sure where

Thank you

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Topo baptimos help reading

[Marilyn Thompson]

left side middle: Manuel

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1780-1793/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1780-1793_item1/P97.html


Manuel filho Martin___ Jose de Soares and Izabel Silveira Topo born 8
October 1790

What is the margin note?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Bride and Groom Parents

[Marilyn Thompson]

I am not good at reading the bleed thru records. I have determined that
this is the correct couple: Manuel Teixeira Nunes and Maria Vitorina. 16
Dec 1839 ( from the index) Are the parents names given? What about the
brides age (date of birth)?

Right hand page

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1828-1853/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1828-1853_item1/P90.html

Thank you
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Margarida Rosa

[Marilyn Thompson]

 Margarida's birthday was listed on her marriage as 13 October 1790. I need
someone to look at this one and tell me if this is the right one.

Bottom right corner.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792_item1/P64.html


On their marriage it has his birthday at 8 Oct 1790, but I am not finding
it.
Here is a link to their marriage. Top left
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P174.html


I have looked in both Topo and Ribeira Seca for both of them
Thank you

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