Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ** New record info on Azores GenWeb: Faial Death Inde...

2017-09-08 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

"Ditto"
Helen S
 
 
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Yes, much thanks to all those contributing their time and hard work to Kathy's 
website.  It truly is appreciated!
 
Marie Pleasant
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software and Genealogy survey

2017-05-18 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Done
 
Helen S.
 
 
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Done.
   Emil

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Ditto!
 
 
 

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Done.  

Maria Elena 

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Done. 





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On Wednesday, May 17,2017 8:15 AM, MaryAnn Santos wrote:





Done!


mas



On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:55PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

I made a little survey about genealogy software.It's only 7 questions. I think 
it takes only 2 or 3 minutes. I'dappreciate it if all of you could help me out.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/7KGD2J8

Thanks Cheri



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "Miz" or "Roiz"

2015-12-15 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Linda
These two Ignacio's are my  husbands G+Grandparents.  I have them as Martins
Helen Salvador
 
 
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Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2015 9:16 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: "Miz" or "Roiz"




Thanks so much for your reply JR.  I can see it that way too.  I will check the 
other records...

...hmm, and I'm back... here's a record written two years later by the same 
priest, Lourenco Gomes:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737_item1/P103.html

In this case, the groom (again named for his father) is listed in the Marriage 
Index as Manuel Martins.  To my eye, the abbreviation used by the priest again 
looks like Miz, accented.  I think it is the same abbreviation as in the first 
record I linked to.

There are several examples of the abbreviation in this second record.  If you 
wouldn't mind having a look at them, I'd be much obliged.

thanks again,

Linda


On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 8:29:16 PM UTC-8, JR wrote:
I would say Roiz because there is short symbol over the Roiz (the z), and that 
is the usual short form for Rodrigues. However, if you spot Mtz with same 
accent you may have a case. I would still go with Roiz because that is what it 
looks like to me, especially the z.


JR

On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 11:01:09 PM UTC-5, linda wrote:

Hi Group,

I would like your opinions on this record, please:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737_item1/P89.html

I think the transcriber of the names on this page for the Terceira Marriage 
Index made an error.  According to the index, the marriage should be for 
Ignacio Rodrigues.  But, I believe it says the groom (and his father) to be 
Ignacio Martins.  The priest's M's (as in the M in "Madre Igregia" second to 
bottom line) could easily be mistaken for R's, hence the error.  

I'd very much appreciate more experienced eyes than mine to double check.

many thanks,

Linda




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help needed

2015-11-25 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Barb,
 Are Antonio Vieira Homem and Beatriz Maria your ancestors.  They are 1st 
cousin to me.  His father Antonio Vieira Homem m. to Maria Delfina is my Great 
Uncle 2x  The next generation Joao Vieira Homem m. to Rosa Marianna or Ignacia 
is my GGgrandfather.  I think we may be cousins??  Did you do your DNA?
  
Helen Vierra Salvador
researching Biscoites
 
 
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From: Barb Davis 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tue, Nov 24, 2015 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help needed



Sorry about that.  The groom is Antonio Vierra, taking Beatriz Maria.  Line 17 
begins with Beatriz Maria, filha de __.  Is that Jose Goncalves 
Rodrigues and Rosa Ignacia?
Pretty sure they are stating they are from the same parish, but could you 
double check it for me?


Thanks again!


Barb

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 11:24:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
It's best to use names and to state if you want the marriage on the left or 
right side of the page. Calling them "bride and groom" or "my 3 
great-grandparents" does not help the reader help you. Calling them "Manuel do 
Rego and Maria de Jesus" is more helpful. And if someone also descends from 
this same couple they will recognize the names.



Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

2015-11-08 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Eric and Dave
I have Jose Martins Cotta and Maria Balbina in my records  Maria.Balbina is 
related to my mother from 2nd to 8th cousins.  Jose and Maria Balbina were 
married Nov. 5, 1869. (1860-1869+006 pg.6 Rec. #10) Sao Pedro, Biscoites.  He 
was 22 yrs old when he married, and she was 19 yrs old. . He was the son of 
Jose Martins Cotta and Maria Ignacia.and Maria Balbina  was the daughter of 
Jose Martins Ourique and Josefa Constancia .

I also have three more children for Jose and Maria Balbina
1 Maria do Rosario b. June 3, 1870, married June 6, 1889 to Pedro de Sousa, of 
Angra. (1889-006 Rec 9 pg. 6)
2 Manoel b. Oct. 7, 1872
3 Emilia b. Sep. 27, 1875

 Helen S
 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta



The 1913 shiplist shows Francisco came to the US in 1906, and is returning to 
his brother Jose Martins Cotta in Sanger, Fresno. Father is Jose Martins Cotta 
in Biscoitos
I have no censuses for 1920 for this Cotta family



This was a very tricky family to sort out. I'm going to post what I have for 
the group to see if anyone relates to these families, has worked on related 
families, or just for a second look at things.


First, there are three Jose Martins Cotta who left Biscoitos, Terceira within a 
few months in 1901. Two of those came to the Tulare, Kings, Fresno area. Two of 
them had brothers named Francisco. 


One of the fathers was Jose Martins Cotta, and one was Manuel Martins Cotta. 


I do not have draft notices that fit the two who appear on the 1910 census in 
Kaweah, Tulare


I have no clear death record for Frank M Cotta.




I'll post a number of records in a few messages


Eric Edgar



Descendants of Jose Martins Cotta
 
 
Generation No. 1
 
1.  JOSE MARTINS2 COTTA  (JOSE MARTIN1)  He married MARIA BALBINA, daughter of 
JOSE OURIQUE and JOSEFA CONSTANCIA.  

Childrenof JOSE COTTA and MARIA BALBINA are:
2.i.JOSE MARTIN3 COTTA, b. 19 Mar 1882,Biscoitos, Terceira, 
Azores; d. 12 Jun 1961, Chino, San Bernardino, California.
  ii.FRANCISCO MARTIN COTTA, b. 21 Nov 1884,Biscoitos, 
Terceira, Azores.
 
 
Generation No. 2
 
2.  JOSE MARTIN3 COTTA (JOSE MARTINS2, JOSE MARTIN1) was born 19 Mar1882 in 
Biscoitos, Terceira, Azores, and died 12 Jun 1961 in Chino, SanBernardino, 
California.  He married MARIA M CONCEIACO 12 Sep 1901 inLowell, Massachucetts, 
daughter of JOSE CONCEICAO and JOSEFA.  

Childrenof JOSE COTTA and MARIA CONCEIACO are:
   i.MARY M4 COTTA, b. 31 Jan 1903,Taunton, Bristol, 
Massachucetts; d. 15 May 1990, Tulare. California; m. SOUZA.
3.   ii.VELMA COTTA, b. 15 Mar 1910,California; d. 30 Jan 1971, 
Tulare. California.
4.  iii.ROSE ALICE COTTA, b. 1913,California; d. 24 Sep 2014, 
Tulare. California.
 
 
Generation No. 3
 
3.  VELMA4 COTTA (JOSE MARTIN3, JOSE MARTINS2, JOSE MARTIN1) was born 15 
Mar1910 in California, and died 30 Jan 1971 in Tulare. California.  She married 
(1) MANUEL M COELHO 1923 in Tulare,California.She married (2) JOE G HUGHES 
1933 in Reno,Nevada.  

Childof VELMA COTTA and MANUEL COELHO is:
   i.EDWARD5 COELHO, b. 1926,California.
 
 
4.  ROSE ALICE4 COTTA (JOSE MARTIN3, JOSE MARTINS2, JOSE MARTIN1) was born 
1913in California, and died 24 Sep 2014 in Tulare. California.  She married 
JOSEPH LEAL, son of LEAL and BORGES.  He was born 08 Feb 1910 in Azores, and 
died28 Dec 1999 in Tulare. California.

Childrenof ROSE COTTA and JOSEPH LEAL are:
   i.DOLORES5 LEAL.
  ii.LUCILLE LEAL.
 iii.IRENE LEAL.
 iv.MARY LEAL.
  v.ALICE LEAL.
 vi.TERESA LEAL.
vii.LAURA LEAL.
   viii.JOSEPH LEAL.
 ix.JAMES LEAL.














On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM, nancy jean baptiste  
wrote:


Congratulations! What a thrill it must be to talk with your cousin! Your 
mother's sisters daughter! Thank you for sharing this mystery as it unfolded. 
For those of us who are your cousins, there's still that mystery of "how/who/ 
when? Do you have a connection to the Azores yet? I know there was talk of 
looking at the passports. You already have your MTDNA...right?


Best regards  for the continued story unfolding I like Belmiraaka, 
Velma..married at 13you have a good story there.


Nancy Jean



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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:43:34 -0700
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How wonderful! So many of us have watched this quest unfold and it is so nice 
to read of your success!


Susan Vargas Murphy 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Dave Worman  wrote:




Success!!!  

Thank you to each and every one of you who have spent time searching on my 
behalf and to e

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

2015-10-29 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Dave
I'm so happy for you.  I remember your first e-mail to me in Jan. 2009 asking 
if I knew a Velma Cotta.  Sorry I couldn't help.  This site is so amazing with 
so many really good researcher. Eric,  wow!.   When you get further along, 
maybe we can find our connection.

Good Luck, 

Helen Salvador
 
 
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From: Dave Worman 
To: Azores 
Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2015 9:23 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta




Success!!!  

Thank you to each and every one of you who have spent time searching on my 
behalf and to each one of you following this thread.  I could not have done it 
without you.  You are an answer to my prayers!  God Bless you!


I have been searching for Velma Cotta, my birth mother, for most of my adult 
life with no results beyond finding out her name and marriage to my birth 
father.   Due to the help from members of this group - she has been identified 
and I have been able to locate and contact my actual, real 1st cousin!  A child 
of Velma's sister!   


The information came in a little bit at a time but then quickly once we were 
pretty sure we were on the right trail.  Understanding the name change from 
Belmira to Velma was really the first clue.  Then census info, newspapers 
articles, tracking the people who might be the right family, finding graves, 
then obituaries of Velma's parents (thank you Sequoia Genealogical Society!) 
and then the obituary of Velma's sister.   I don't have permission to name the 
people who actually found all this but you can find them on this thread :)
They did all the important work as I have no clue.


To you who have been searching, too.  Keep looking and trying and I hope for 
your success!


Thank you,


Dave







 







On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Yeah, that's the spelling. I knew it looked a little off!



Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

2015-10-06 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Liz Migliori 
To: azores 
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2015 8:34 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta



I have forwarded this to my friend who's maiden name was Cotta and she was born 
and raised in Los Banos Ca.   I will forward whatever reply I get

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Dave Worman  wrote:



I am still searching for information on Velma Cotta, born about 1910 probably 
in California.  Divorce 1928 - married again 1933.   In 1933 lived at 230 Ivy 
St., Hanford, CA with Belle and Hercules Lopes.   Have hit a brick wall here 
and am still wondering about her.   Dave


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Handwriting help

2015-10-05 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

The bride is Quiteira Ignacia 
 
 
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Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 7:44 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Handwriting help




I'm still trying to learn to read portuguese, so this is all I can give you.
for your line 17, his wife is Francisca Ignacia
the brides parents are Estevao Lourenco and Maria de Sao Jose
There are no ages given for the bride and groom.


here is a direct link: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832_item1/P49.html

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:37:54 PM UTC-7, Barbara Davis wrote:
Some of the notations in this record are not what I'm accustomed to and I'm not 
quite sure what it says.


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832_item1/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832_JPG/TER-PV-AGUALVA-C-1770-1832_0049.jpg


Line 4:  made first?
Line 16:  ...Jose Coelho, legitmate son
Line 17:  of Manoel Coelho, and his wife... ? ... Ignacia
Line 18-end:  I AM LOST!!!  HELP ME DECIPHER!


Also, some of the records five the age of the bride or groom.  I can't see ages 
in this one, but perhaps I'm just missing them?


Thanks!


Barb 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta

2015-10-05 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Nancy, I agree!
Helen
 
 
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From: nancy jean baptiste 
To: azores group 
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 1:17 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta



This is an exciting mystery!


Nancy Jean



Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:50:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta
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To: azores@googlegroups.com


Here are the parents Massachucetts marriage record. The fact that Mary is one 
year older than Jose shows up in most of their records. That's unique, as 
anyone who's been at this awhile knows. Ages are highly variable


even when you know you have the right people. 


I previously posted their daughter Mary's birth record from Taunton, 1903. 


 I know , different cities, but these were mill workers, so when demand slowed 
, they shut off the mills and people went looking for work elsewhere. My ggg 
grandparents worked in the Lowell Mills  about 1890, but their kids were born a


 few years later in Swansea, thrn a year later, out to California. 


The two marriage records show the registration for marriage, the other the 
recording of the ceremony.




There may be  good clue here that Maria's father is shown as Jose Conceicao, 
that her name listed wasn't just the religious suffix. 


The next step is to get them identified on the passport leaving the Azores.




Eric Edgar



On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:19 PM, nancy jean baptiste  
wrote:


Eric,


Dave and I show as cousins. My great grandmother, Catarina Moreira Cabral was 
from Santa Maria and there are some Coelho's in her line. Not sure how many of 
Dave's other matches have Santa Maria. The only other Coelho I have is my 
paternal great grand father from Sao Jorge had a first wife from Terceira who 
had the surname Coelho...not sure right now if it was her father or mothers 
namethey had 2 children.a Manuel and a Josenever found the first 
wife's death ANYWHEREbut he went to Ma. and remarried my 
Catarinaperhaps, somehow there's a connection.long shot.


Nancy Jean



Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:26:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta
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Eric,

Thank you so much for your perseverance on my behalf. 


Incredible!!   I am certain that Belmira is our Velma.  The 1931 newspaper 
divorce notice would indicate that she is the one!!   


There is so much information that I am overwhelmed right now.   


Thank you,  Dave



On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

Dave, 


 I believe I have good lead, someone not looked at before. 


Belimira Cotta, shown on the 1910 census in Kaweah, Tulare county. This is in 
the Sierra east of Visalia.


Her parents are listed as Joe M and Mary Courter ( That's how Cotta might sound 
to an American from a recently arrived Azorean)


She's born in California ( age shows 2 months) Parents arrived in 1902. 


There is a Massachucetts birth record to match her sister Mary that confirms 
the  Cotta name


. 



The only time the name is seen again is the 1923 Portuguese newspaper marriage 
article, Belmira Cotto to Manuel Coelho


In 1930 , Joe M and Mary Cotta are in Tulare township with a grandson, Edward 
Coelho, born about 1926.


In 1940 , a 15 yr old  Eddie Coelho turns up in the San Bernardino County Boys 
Detention Center. His birthplace is blank, but says he lived in that county in 
1935


It seems it could be another Eddie, except that a Joe M Cotta died in San 
Bernardino county in 1961, suggesting residency or a visit there.


If I have the correct Joe and Mary Cotta, then their buried in the Tulare city 
cemetery. 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta

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Nancy Jean, I am also a cousin (4th & remote) to Dave.
Helen Salvador
 
 
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To: azores group 
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 11:02 am
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta



Marilyn,


Are you a DNA cousin to Dave? I am and you and I are so there's a clue in there 
somehow!


Nancy Jean



Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:11:30 -0600
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Velma Cotta
From: mari...@jmtmlt.com
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Do you have any additional information? Born Northern, Central, Southern 
California? Married names?


On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Dave Worman  wrote:


First, Thank You!! to each one of you who have spent so muchtime trying to help 
me with this search. 
 
I am still searching for information on Velma Cotta, bornabout 1910 probably in 
California. Divorce 1928 - married again 1933.  In 1933 lived at 230 Ivy St., 
Hanford, CA with Belle and HerculesLopes.   Have hit a brick wall here andam 
still wondering about her.
 
And to those of you who have not yet done the DNA testing, pleasetest because 
you may be able to help people with brick walls like me.  Who knows, we might 
be cousins.
 
Dave

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?

2015-08-19 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy


Jessica
Ribeira Seca is located between Fonte Bastardo and Sao Sebastiao on the map.  
Don't know anything about a church there
Helen
 
 
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To: azores 
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 8:04 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?


 
  
Hi everyone,  
  
   
  
  
I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom 
left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira 
but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have 
church books?  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
Jessica  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents

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Jessica,
 
First I want to tell you that I didn't research this family.  It was done by my 
husband's  cousin, Sister Sandra Ann Silva SHF.  I guess she is also your 
cousin too..  I hope this is not too confusing.  I didn't know if you wanted 
any children of these couples, but I included them.  Ignore them if you want.  
You line seems to match up with my husbands.  Have you tested your DNA.  If so 
you may find a Joseph A. Salvador listed as a cousin and you will have a clue 
where the matches are.  
 
1. Manoel de Barcelos bp. May 24, 1698 Santa Barbara, Fonte Bastardo, son of 
(2)Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade and (3) Lucrecia Camella b. Sao Sebastiao  .  
He married Maria de Santa Antonio.
 
2.  Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade b. ? d. Aug. 8, 1706 F.B. son of (4) Manoel 
de Barcelos de Andrade and (5) Catarina Ferreira de Avila.
 
3  Lucrecia Camella b. ? Sao Sebastiao d. Oct. 2, 1734 F.B. dg. of (6) 
Sebastiao da Costa of Sao Sebastiao and (7) Maria Pacheco, F.B.
 
4. Manoel de Barcelos de Andrade
 
5.Catarina Ferreira de Avila
 
6. Sebastiao da Costa b. Sao Sebastiao
 
7 Maria Pacheco b. F.B. d. Jul 10, 1724 F.B.
 
 
Domingos de Andrade and Lucrecia Camella
children
i  Manoel de Barcelos bp. May 24, 1693  married Jan. 8, 1720, FB Maria de Santa 
Antonio b. Jun 17, 1698 F.B.  d. Feb. 17,1736 F.B.
ii Joanna bp.. Sep 13, 1695 
iii Josefa bp. Mar. 23, 1698 FB
iv Antonio bp. Apr 24, 1700 FB
v  Maria da Conceicao bp. Apr. 24, 1700 FB m. Aug. 1, 1714 FB to Joao Vieira
vi Joanna b. Mar 16, 1701 FB
 
Manoel de Barcelos and Maria de Santa Antonio dg. of Joao Toste, Sargento, and 
Angela de Aguiar b. Jul 26, 1692
children
i  Maria de Sao Joseph b. Nov. 2, 1720 m. Manoel Machado Corvelho on Jul 22, 
1748 FB
ii Andre b. Nov. 23, 1722 FB
iii Antonio b. Oct. 15, 1724 FB
iv Manoel b. Oct. 15, 1724 FB
v  Manoel b. Apr 4. 1727 FB
vi Joseph b. Jan 23, 1728 FB
vii Rosa b. Feb. 2, 1730 FB
viii Sebastiao b. Jan 12, 1732
ix  Catarina b. Nov 14, 1733
x Pedro b/ Dec 5, 1735
 
Joao Toste, Sgt. bp Jul 15, 1668 FB son of Nicolao Toste and Maria Gomes of 
Cabo da Praia  m. ? Angela de Aguiar, bp.Jul 26, 1682 d. Apr 8, 1712 FB
Children
i   Nicolas Toste bp. Sep. 16, 1696 FB
ii  Maria de Santa Antonia bp Jun 17, 1698, d. Feb. 17,1736 FB m. Jan.8, 1720 
FB Manoel de Barcelos
iii Josefa Maria b. Oct. 13, 1700 m. Manoel Ferreira of Lages  on Nov. 12, 1725 
FB son of Manoel Ferreira and Ignes Vieira of Lages
iv  Rosa Maria b. Jun 29,1703 d. Dec 27, 1705 FB
v  Joao b. Mar. 29, 1705 FB
vi   Antonio b Apr 25, 1707 FB
vii  Rosa Maria b. Dec 7, 1708 FB
 
 Nicolas Toste b. Sep.10, 1627FB, d. Nov.5, 1686 FB son of Joao Vaz FB and 
Barbara Toste,  He married Maria Gomes, on Nov. 26, 1657.  She was bp. Jun 9, 
1633,and died on Jan 22, 1693 Cabo da Praia,
. she was the dg. of Manoel Goncalves of Cabo da Praia and Apolonia Gomes of 
Cabo da Praia.
 Children of Nicolas and Maria Gomes
I  Maria bp Sep 1,1658 FB
ii  Manoel bp. May 16, 1660 FB
iii  Joseph ? d. 3/20/1669 FB
vi  Joao Toste, Sgt. bp. Jul 15, 1668 FB
v  Joseph bp. Oct. 26,1672
vi   Joseph bp. 1680
vii  Nicolas bp. ? m. Antonio de Aguiar
 

 Jesica, let me know if I can help you.  You may ask me anything.  I didn't 
want to go further because I know these four couples are you ancestors, but I 
wasn't sure if you branched off somewhere.   
 
Helen Vierra Salvador
Fremont, CA

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 2:56 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents


 
Hi Helen,  
   
  
  
Thank you for the clarification on the names. I would LOVE some more 
information!  
  
   
  
  
Maria de Sao Antonio is from the 10th generation of a maternal line that 
reaches my great-grandfather,Julio Goncalves da Costa, in Fonte 
Bastardo.  
  
   
  
  
Any added information about Manuel & Maria would be greatly cherished.  
  
   
  
  
Thanks so much,  
  
   
  
  
Jessica   
   

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:04:45 -0400
From: azores@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents

  
Jessica, 
  
The groom is Manuel de Barcellos son of Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade  and 
Lucrecia Camella.  The bride is  Maria de Sao Antonio dg. of Joao Toste and 
Angela de Aguiar.  Manuel is my husband's 6th great grandfather.   I have more 
info if you would like, 
  
Helen Salvador 
  
Fremont, Ca. 
  
researching Terceira, Santa Maria, Pico, Graciosa and Flores 
  
   his...@aol.com 
  
  
  
-Original Message-  
 From: Jessica Lima   
 To: azores   
 Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 2:55 pm  
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents  
   
   

 
 Jessica 

  
   

 Hello,

 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents

2015-08-18 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Jessica,
The groom is Manuel de Barcellos son of Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade  and 
Lucrecia Camella.  The bride is  Maria de Sao Antonio dg. of Joao Toste and 
Angela de Aguiar.  Manuel is my husband's 6th great grandfather.   I have more 
info if you would like,
Helen Salvador
Fremont, Ca.
researching Terceira, Santa Maria, Pico, Graciosa and Flores
 his...@aol.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Jessica Lima 
To: azores 
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 2:55 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride & Groom's Parents


 
  Jessica

  
   

Hello,

 


Having trouble with the names on the Bride & Groom's in this wedding 
register

 


Fonte do Bastardo, Terceira

Manuel Barcellos & Maria de Santo Antonio (bottom left)

 


 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-C-1699-1756/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-C-1699-1756_item1/P23.html


 


I make out this much.

 


groom's parents are: ___ Aguiar de Andrade and Camilla?

 


bride's parents are: Sargento or Jacinto ___ Toste & Angela de ?

 


Thanks,

 


Jessica

 


 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families who settled in San Joaquin Valley

2015-03-02 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

 
 
 
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From: Annie Carvalho 
To: azores 
Sent: Tue, Feb 24, 2015 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families 
who settled in San Joaquin Valley


 
Eric,   
   
  
  
I want to be sure I understand you.  
  
   
   
Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family?   
   
Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm 
in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho.   
   

   
   
And are you saying that
  
  
Maria deJesus de Freitas and  
  
Maria deJose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did 
the recording?  
  
   
  
  
Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it.   
  
I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents. 
  
  
   
  
  
Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few 
years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband 
whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio 
Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both 
an old photo of the house way back when and then a new photo I took when I 
was in the Azores a few years ago.  
  
   
  
  
A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my 
blog at this link: Our Precious Past  
  
   
  
  
Again, thank you for the information.  
  
Annie  
  
   
  
 
 
  
  
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . wrote:   
   

Annie,  
  
 
 
The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the 
Niles, Alameda, California  
  
   
  
  
The parish church for the freguisia ofBretanha in the concelho of   
 Ponta Delgada, island ofSao Miguel is calledNossa Senhora de 
Ajuda, so the records readAjuda de Bretanha.   
  
   
  
  
   Nossa Senhora de Ajuda means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is 
another freguisia in the neighboring concelho ofRibeira Grande called   
 Fenais de Ajuda, so it's important to know which one to look in.  
 
 
  
 
 
Paternos-  the father's parents,  Materno-the mother's parents 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record, 
marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by 
different priests 
 
  
 
 
The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she 
was recorded  as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person 
 
  
 
 
The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used 
later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's 
, any of the 
 
  
 
 
 grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname) 
added.  
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
Eric Edgar 
 
  
 


 
 
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mellowrote: 
 
  
   

Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at  gmail.com 

(Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each other, 
they were being flagged as spam.  All responses are being placed into 1 message 
on the correct thread.  Thank yous were deleted).

 
 
Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was Tomas, 
and was changed to Thomas. 
 
They were from the island of Pico. 
 
Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho?  
==  
John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford?  
==  
  
Some of these names are very familiar.  
  
I will look at this closely today.   
==   
I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it.   
Did you see it?   
   
I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part.   
   
Thanks for catching it.

Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family.

I will contact him and let him know. 
 
Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place? 
I thought it was a family surname. 
 
I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean Pied de 
Port when I walked the Camino Santiago. 
 
I have a photo. 
 
I'll try to find it and post it.  
  
Eric,  
When you say "paterno" I'm not sure who this is?   
==   
My grandmother is Maria de JES

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880

2014-10-03 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Nancy
I don't know if he has any Sao Miguel ancestors.  I have never research that 
island for any.  As for Joe's,  Salvador da Rocha, their GGrand parents were 
from Piedade, Pico.  The name was Domingos Vieira and Maria Pereira.  Records 
don't go back far enough to find anything about them.
Helen S.
Fremont, CA
 
 
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To: azores 
Sent: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 7:42 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880



Doug, is Salvador Machado da Rocha a descendant of Pedro Esteves Rocha e 
Machado (or da Rocha Machado--I've seen it both ways) who was born in Viana do 
Castelo and came to Sao Miguel by way of Madeira after committing a murder in 
Portugal.  He was given land in Agua d'Alto, fertile land between two volcanos, 
and he became very wealthy.  He is my 15th great-grandfather.  I descend from 
his son Afonso Anes da Rocha Machado, and I know I read somewhere, probably in 
Saudades da Terra, that his other children went to other islands and were 
fruitful and multiplied.  At least one son went to Terceira.


Helen, I have a Family Finder match with Joseph Antone Salvador at the 5th to 
remote cousin level.  This could be the link.  I note that he has Bonito and 
Couto on his list of surnames.  Bonito is the alcunha of my Couto family.  Does 
Joseph have any links to Sao Miguel?


I have to get back to Gaspar Frutuoso and see what I can figure out.  My 
reading knowledge of Portuguese is good enough for vital records and menus, but 
Saudades da Terra is slow going.


Nancy





On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:22 PM,   wrote:


Helen and Anthony,


And there's more.


Francisca married to her 2nd cousin, once removed and their common ancestors 
are Salvador Machado da Rocha, whose first name is the origin for your 
husband's surname! So not only is Francisca your cousin, but so is her husband. 
:-)


One more thing I noticed at a glance. Anthony is related to another list 
member, Doreen Caetano Jungk by some common Canto ancestors from around the 
1800 time frame. And I'm related to Doreen and to your husband.


One could get dizzy from all that.


Actually, I believe Anthony said these are his wife's ancestors.



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880
From: hisalv via Azores Genealogy 
Date: Thu, October 02, 2014 4:23 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

 
 
  
Antonio, After the name after Jose da Rocha Machado is Salvador, his wife is 
Maria da Esperanca. They are my husband's Great Grandparents.
 
 
 
Helen Salvador
 
Fremont, CA
 
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
 From: Anthony Martin 
 To: azores 
 Sent: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:40 am
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880
 
 
 
On the bottom right of record 24 on page 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P9.html
 shows the name Jose de Rocha, but I can't make out what it says immediately 
after the name. Also, entry number 2 in the margin appears to read that she 
died on 11/20/1960, but I can't quite make out the month. On the following page 
it shows that something happened on 06-25-1982, but I can't read the writing to 
make out what it says. I think it says that the birth record was requested on 
that date, but I'm not exactly sure. 

 
 
Would someone be able to help with these records? 
 






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880

2014-10-02 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

I know Doreen is related to Joe, but I didn't realize you were too.  I had 
Joe's YDNA done and family finder but you didn't show as a cousin.  There is 
something wrong with his YDNA.  He didn't have any matches, not even 12 
markers.  FTDNA is retesting his spare sample.  Should know in a couple of 
weeks. Is the Salvador da Rocha  you're talking about, the same as my Salvador 
Machado Galhano m. to Catarina Rosa?
Helen
 
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Sent: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 5:22 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880



Helen and Anthony,


And there's more.


Francisca married to her 2nd cousin, once removed and their common ancestors 
are Salvador Machado da Rocha, whose first name is the origin for your 
husband's surname! So not only is Francisca your cousin, but so is her husband. 
:-)


One more thing I noticed at a glance. Anthony is related to another list 
member, Doreen Caetano Jungk by some common Canto ancestors from around the 
1800 time frame. And I'm related to Doreen and to your husband.


One could get dizzy from all that.


Actually, I believe Anthony said these are his wife's ancestors.



Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com




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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880
From: hisalv via Azores Genealogy 
Date: Thu, October 02, 2014 4:23 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

 
 
  
Antonio, After the name after Jose da Rocha Machado is Salvador, his wife is 
Maria da Esperanca. They are my husband's Great Grandparents.
 
 
 
Helen Salvador
 
Fremont, CA
 
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
 From: Anthony Martin 
 To: azores 
 Sent: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:40 am
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880
 
 
 
On the bottom right of record 24 on page 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P9.html
 shows the name Jose de Rocha, but I can't make out what it says immediately 
after the name. Also, entry number 2 in the margin appears to read that she 
died on 11/20/1960, but I can't quite make out the month. On the following page 
it shows that something happened on 06-25-1982, but I can't read the writing to 
make out what it says. I think it says that the birth record was requested on 
that date, but I'm not exactly sure. 

 
 
Would someone be able to help with these records? 
 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matheu Machado Miranda (born 1683 Ribeirinha, Terceira)

2014-10-02 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Hi Roger
 
Your Matheus Machado Miranda's, brother Manoel Machado Miranda married to 
Margarida de Jesus is my husbands Great+Grandfather.  Their father is Matues 
Machado de Miranda m. to Margrida Alves
which you probably already have.  That's my end of the line. research by Joao 
Ventura, Terceira.

Helen Salvador
Fremont, CA
 
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From: Roger 
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Sent: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 4:16 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matheu Machado Miranda (born 1683 Ribeirinha, 
Terceira)


Trying to find the ancestors of Mathew Machado Miranda born 1683 in Ribeirinha. 
 Would like to know when the first Miranda immigrated to the Azores and from 
where.  I understand there is a set books titled "Genealogias Da Ilha Terceira" 
that might contain the information I am searching for.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880

2014-10-02 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy


Antonio, After the name after Jose da Rocha Machado is Salvador, his wife is 
Maria da Esperanca. They are my husband's Great Grandparents.

Helen Salvador
Fremont, CA
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Anthony Martin 
To: azores 
Sent: Thu, Oct 2, 2014 11:40 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisca Parreira 01/19/1880


On the bottom right of record 24 on page 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P9.html
 shows the name Jose de Rocha, but I can't make out what it says immediately 
after the name. Also, entry number 2 in the margin appears to read that she 
died on 11/20/1960, but I can't quite make out the month. On the following page 
it shows that something happened on 06-25-1982, but I can't read the writing to 
make out what it says. I think it says that the birth record was requested on 
that date, but I'm not exactly sure.


Would someone be able to help with these records?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano Vincent Mendonca, b. 30 April 1890, Flores

2014-07-31 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

LOL That's why I wrote it as it was in the book. Because I wasn't sure.  I 
think its Oct 6, 1881.  I checked another date that was 1875.06.20, so the 
month is in the middle.
 
Manuel Jose de Mendonca 40 yrs, born in Cedros, Santa Cruz das Flores son of 
Jose Vicente da Silveira and Joaquina Maria de Mendonca, m. Oct. 6, 1881 to 
Mariana Claudina de Mendonca 24 yrs dg. of Jose Caetano Martins and Mariana 
Rosa Claudina  They married in the parish of Sao Caetano, Lomba, Lages, Flores

 There was a Jose Vicente da Silveira Junior but he's to young. Maybe a son but 
not Manuel's father.
That's it, couldn,t find the parents marriages
Helen

 
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Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano Vincent Mendonca, b. 30 April 1890, 
Flores


6 Oct 1881 or 10 June 1881?  Can you write out the month?  Numbers are 
confusing. Thanks!!!





On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:10 PM, hisalv via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Cheri, 
Do you need their marriage date.  I found their marriage in Lomba, 1881.10.06.  
He was 40 yrs old.she was 24 yrs old
 
Do you need anything else. Found in the Flores Book
Helen S
Fremiont ca
 
 

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Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 8:46 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano Vincent Mendonca, b. 30 April 1890, 
Flores




OK, got another clue and found the guy in Cedros.  So do any of you Cedros or 
Lomba researchers have these people in your tree?


Manuel Jose de Mendonça, born in Cedros and Marianna Claudina de Mendonça, born 
in Lomba, they married in Lomba and had a kid in 1890 in Cedros.  Groom son of 
José Vicente da Silveira and Joaquina Maria de Mendonça and bride daughter of 
José Caetano Martins and Mariana Claudina.





Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano Vincent Mendonca, b. 30 April 1890, Flores

2014-07-31 Thread hisalv via Azores Genealogy

Cheri, 
Do you need their marriage date.  I found their marriage in Lomba, 1881.10.06.  
He was 40 yrs old.she was 24 yrs old
 
Do you need anything else. Found in the Flores Book
Helen S
Fremiont ca
 
 
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From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 8:46 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano Vincent Mendonca, b. 30 April 1890, 
Flores


OK, got another clue and found the guy in Cedros.  So do any of you Cedros or 
Lomba researchers have these people in your tree?


Manuel Jose de Mendonça, born in Cedros and Marianna Claudina de Mendonça, born 
in Lomba, they married in Lomba and had a kid in 1890 in Cedros.  Groom son of 
José Vicente da Silveira and Joaquina Maria de Mendonça and bride daughter of 
José Caetano Martins and Mariana Claudina.





Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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