Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
This is what it looks like to me: 10 May 1631 Manoel Gonsalves (Miguel Gonsalves X Anna Francisca) SPOUSE Barbara Rois/Rodrigues (Gaspar _, dec. X Maria Andre?) Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Cesar Pimentel To: Abridged recipients ; Cesar Pimentel Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:35 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! Hello friends, As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro. Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte. As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , I decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to get a more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here they lived in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover church. So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira Grande and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and Barbara, who are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last names to see if they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek. The link with the marriage registration is as follows http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out the last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that record? Tank You a Lot Cesar Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] A help, in RR´s Book
Hello friends, Me again , again calling for help for those who have or can access to Rodrigo Rodrigues book. This time I ask for help to anyone who can help me on the couple Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte, who lived in Maia. Manoel died in Maia on 02/10/1698. They had at least one son, Manuel Carreiro da Costa , who was married to Izabel da Costa. Thank you very much any help. Cesar Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Cheri, Already resigned to it. I sent an email to the administrators of files asking about eventual disappearance of the Mayan books, or alternatively , if there are some others who have not yet been displayed and after a restoration process. I imagine that , to follow this line in my genealogy , only I discovered some ancient Mayan work of genealogists. Thank you very much. Cesar Rodrigues Pimentel cesarpimentel@hotmail.com Looking at Barbara da Ponte's death record in Maia , where she lived , and was married to Manoel da Costa. Death occurred approximately in 1700. De: azores@googlegroups.com em nome de Cheri Mello Enviado: sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 13:02 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! Cesar, It doesn't exist. Baptisms begin in 1665. Marriages begin in 1674, and deaths in 1673. It appears that there could have been other books since the years of 1665 and 1674-1673 are 9 years apart. Wikipedia (in English) gives more history than the Portuguese version of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande) [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/SMG_RBGMaia.JPG/235px-SMG_RBGMaia.JPG]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande)> Maia (Ribeira Grande) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande)> en.wikipedia.org Maia is a civil parish in the municipality of Ribeira Grande in the Portuguese archipelago of the Azores. The population in 2011 was 1,900, in an area of 21.97 km² ... It sounds as if the church goes back to the late 1400s. Almost 150 years before the records. This description from Guido de Monterey's "Santa Maria e Sao Miguel: As Duas Ilhas do Oriente" (page 191) seems to be similar to what Wikipedia says: Anterior a 1522. Sofreu obras no decurso dos séculos XVII e XVIII. Todavia, a maior e mais flagrante reconstrução deu-se no final do século XVIII. Apresentou-se pronta no ano de 1812. Templo de consideráveis dimensões, corpo principal de tres naves. Capela-mor plena de graciosidade. Altar-mor extasiante pela valia da sua talha, ora dourada, ora pintada a azul. Igreja ataviada e augusta, centro do total arrebatamento. I did not find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro married to Isabel da Costa in any volume of Rodrigo Rodrigues either. I'm guess the Maia books were missing during Rodrigo Rodrigues' lifetime too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
JR, Tanks a lot. Cesar De: azores@googlegroups.com em nome de JR Enviado: sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 18:28 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! One thing to remember for pre-1800 obito records, is that they are often not accurate and can be off by more than 10 years. The church did not consider the age at death that important and so the priests wrote, "mais ou menos." That is, more or less. In my experience, the correct age at death is seldom correct for the pre-1800 records. However, it still very useful to determine an approximate baptismal date. JR On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Cesar, It doesn't exist. Baptisms begin in 1665. Marriages begin in 1674, and deaths in 1673. It appears that there could have been other books since the years of 1665 and 1674-1673 are 9 years apart. Wikipedia (in English) gives more history than the Portuguese version of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande) [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/SMG_RBGMaia.JPG/235px-SMG_RBGMaia.JPG]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande)> Maia (Ribeira Grande) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande)> en.wikipedia.org Maia is a civil parish in the municipality of Ribeira Grande in the Portuguese archipelago of the Azores. The population in 2011 was 1,900, in an area of 21.97 km² ... It sounds as if the church goes back to the late 1400s. Almost 150 years before the records. This description from Guido de Monterey's "Santa Maria e Sao Miguel: As Duas Ilhas do Oriente" (page 191) seems to be similar to what Wikipedia says: Anterior a 1522. Sofreu obras no decurso dos séculos XVII e XVIII. Todavia, a maior e mais flagrante reconstrução deu-se no final do século XVIII. Apresentou-se pronta no ano de 1812. Templo de consideráveis dimensões, corpo principal de tres naves. Capela-mor plena de graciosidade. Altar-mor extasiante pela valia da sua talha, ora dourada, ora pintada a azul. Igreja ataviada e augusta, centro do total arrebatamento. I did not find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro married to Isabel da Costa in any volume of Rodrigo Rodrigues either. I'm guess the Maia books were missing during Rodrigo Rodrigues' lifetime too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
One thing to remember for pre-1800 obito records, is that they are often not accurate and can be off by more than 10 years. The church did not consider the age at death that important and so the priests wrote, "mais ou menos." That is, more or less. In my experience, the correct age at death is seldom correct for the pre-1800 records. However, it still very useful to determine an approximate baptismal date. JR On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Cesar, > > It doesn't exist. Baptisms begin in 1665. Marriages begin in 1674, and > deaths in 1673. It appears that there could have been other books since the > years of 1665 and 1674-1673 are 9 years apart. Wikipedia (in English) gives > more history than the Portuguese version of Wikipedia: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande) > > It sounds as if the church goes back to the late 1400s. Almost 150 years > before the records. > > This description from Guido de Monterey's "Santa Maria e Sao Miguel: As > Duas Ilhas do Oriente" (page 191) seems to be similar to what Wikipedia > says: > > Anterior a 1522. Sofreu obras no decurso dos séculos XVII e XVIII. > Todavia, a maior e mais flagrante reconstrução deu-se no final do século > XVIII. Apresentou-se pronta no ano de 1812. Templo de consideráveis > dimensões, corpo principal de tres naves. Capela-mor plena de graciosidade. > Altar-mor extasiante pela valia da sua talha, ora dourada, ora pintada a > azul. Igreja ataviada e augusta, centro do total arrebatamento. > > > I did not find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro married to Isabel da Costa > in any volume of Rodrigo Rodrigues either. I'm guess the Maia books were > missing during Rodrigo Rodrigues' lifetime too. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Cesar, It doesn't exist. Baptisms begin in 1665. Marriages begin in 1674, and deaths in 1673. It appears that there could have been other books since the years of 1665 and 1674-1673 are 9 years apart. Wikipedia (in English) gives more history than the Portuguese version of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_(Ribeira_Grande) It sounds as if the church goes back to the late 1400s. Almost 150 years before the records. This description from Guido de Monterey's "Santa Maria e Sao Miguel: As Duas Ilhas do Oriente" (page 191) seems to be similar to what Wikipedia says: Anterior a 1522. Sofreu obras no decurso dos séculos XVII e XVIII. Todavia, a maior e mais flagrante reconstrução deu-se no final do século XVIII. Apresentou-se pronta no ano de 1812. Templo de consideráveis dimensões, corpo principal de tres naves. Capela-mor plena de graciosidade. Altar-mor extasiante pela valia da sua talha, ora dourada, ora pintada a azul. Igreja ataviada e augusta, centro do total arrebatamento. I did not find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro married to Isabel da Costa in any volume of Rodrigo Rodrigues either. I'm guess the Maia books were missing during Rodrigo Rodrigues' lifetime too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Hello Elizeu, Yes, this marriage certificate is really it. I had, what I seek about my Manoel is a certificate of baptism. In his death certificate , it seems, it is written that he died at age 79, that in 02/23/1732 , then he was born in 1653, approximately. They lived in Maya and Maya birth records do not reach that time , at least there are no books in the church for this time , so I'm trying to Ribeira Seca , and Matriz da Estrela to see if meeting . Tanks a lot Cesar Pimentel De: azores@googlegroups.com em nome de Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Enviado: sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 07:07 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! Hi! Please try to read the marriage of 29.5.1679 at Maia, Ribeira Grande. I think you will find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro... Eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cesar Pimentel Enviada: 17 de junho de 2016 02:35 Para: Abridged recipients ; Cesar Pimentel Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! Hello friends, As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro. Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte. As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , I decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to get a more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here they lived in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover church. So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira Grande and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and Barbara, who are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last names to see if they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek. The link with the marriage registration is as follows http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out the last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that record? Tank You a Lot Cesar Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Hi! Please try to read the marriage of 29.5.1679 at Maia, Ribeira Grande. I think you will find your Manuel da Costa Carreiro… Eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cesar Pimentel Enviada: 17 de junho de 2016 02:35 Para: Abridged recipients ; Cesar Pimentel Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help! Hello friends, As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro. Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte. As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , I decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to get a more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here they lived in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover church. So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira Grande and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and Barbara, who are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last names to see if they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek. The link with the marriage registration is as follows http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out the last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that record? Tank You a Lot Cesar Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Cesar, Groom: Manuel Goncalves (abbreviated as Glz) Bride: Barbara Rodrigues (?) (abbreviation looks like "roiz" to me). Either way, it is not your couple. I thought someone posted that the couple you seek are what we call the end of the line ancestors. I don't know how it is said in Portuguese. End of the line ancestors means that there are no more records to use. We have to end the line there. And move on to another line to trace. Or I'm remembering someone else with an end of the line ancestor. I thought it was discussed previously. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Manuel Glz (Goncalves) and Barbara Roiz (Rodrigues ) On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Cesar Pimentel < cesarpimentel@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello friends, > > > As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro. > > > Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte. > > > As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , > I decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to > get a more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here > they lived in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover > church. > > > So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira > Grande and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and > Barbara, who are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last > names to see if they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek. > > > The link with the marriage registration is as follows > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html > > > The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out > the last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that > record? > > > Tank You a Lot > > > Cesar Pimentel > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] A help!
Hello friends, As I preached here, I'm looking for my ancestor Manoel da Costa Carreiro. Manoel was the son of Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte. As I can not find the baptismal certificate of Manoel da Costa Carreiro , I decided to see if there was the marriage certificate of his parents, to get a more precise idea of both frequesia that should do the search, here they lived in Maia, but at the time of his birth, he had not Moreover church. So I was the star of the Matriz da Estrela, because it is in Ribeira Grande and has older records , and found a marriage between a Manuel and Barbara, who are the names that I seek , but I can not really read the last names to see if they are the Manoel da Costa and Barbara da Ponte I seek. The link with the marriage registration is as follows http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1627-1654_item1/P36.html The record is the last on the right. Does anyone could help me figure out the last names of Manuel and Barbara who married and contained in that record? Tank You a Lot Cesar Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.