Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Maria Lima]

Cathy- I LOVE that you always document.  Thank you.  I think we found three 
connections (?)  good to hear fm you

Maria Elena 

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Maria L said, "On Ancestry I had entered names and photos and some people 
> picked up the “leaf hints...” 
> 
> Sometimes, I think they ought to change those little green leaves to red 
> herrings!
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Doreen, it’s true that some people do not document and that there are 
>> errors.  I found this to be true for both  Ancestry and Family search. It’s 
>> frustrating when you research and document and someone enters incorrect info 
>> in your line even when the documentation is right there as a “Source”.  
>> 
>> Yes if names are duplicates, you merge them after careful review.  Names can 
>> also be unnerved if you find it’s not the same person or family.  At times I 
>> call family search library and talk to missionaries who are there to help 
>> answer questions when you are stuck with a situation like you mentioned.  
>> Number is upper right area. 
>> 
>>   But Sometimes I have to remind myself that these names do not belong only 
>> to me but that these people might have descendants scattered in parts of the 
>> world beyond what I thought.  
>> 
>> On Ancestry i  had entered names and photos and some people picked up the 
>> “leaf hints”  and adopted the photos and ancestors.  But they were 
>> incorrect.  I contacted the person and told them how their ancestor was a 
>> different person from a different island, etc.  to my disappointment, the 
>> corrections were not made.  From that time forth, I did not enter more info 
>> on ancestry.  Actually, now my tree in Ancestry is private.   
>> 
>> I do, however, enter all my info on family search.  
>> 
>> There was a person who inserted a child who was born before the parents in 
>> one instance and I contacted them and together we tried to find his 
>> ancestor.  It took time and a call to Salt Lake  but it was corrected.  At 
>> least there’s some place to get help. 
>> 
>> I have also connected with distant cousins who entered other parts of the 
>> family.  Pretty cool!  
>> 
>> I have found duplicates and merged them and therefore added to a family  
>> line.  I document every name that I enter with the link to the source.  Yes, 
>> it is not required, I just feel it is the right thing to do after doing all 
>> the research.
>> 
>> There is a section for disagreement or questioning towards the bottom of 
>> every name.
>> 
>> Yes, I would contact the person who entered incorrect info and I would ask 
>> if they can provide document action as well.  Most people want to do it 
>> right but there will be errors.  Like someone said in another email earlier, 
>> verify everything.  If it’s wrong, write in the section why it’s wrong and 
>> provide correct source.  
>> 
>> I don’t know if this gives you another perspective.  
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Maria Elena Lima
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:50 PM,  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get 
>>> spread. I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new 
>>> direction in my research but will need to be careful. I will verify and 
>>> document.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Rosemarie Capodicci
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
>>> genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases 
>>> like Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's 
>>> verify everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the 
>>> correct dates and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these 
>>> people could care less if the info is correct they just collect names and 
>>> won't respond to you. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rosemarie
>>> 
>>> rcap...@

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Maria Lima]

Doreen, it’s true that some people do not document and that there are errors.  
I found this to be true for both  Ancestry and Family search. It’s frustrating 
when you research and document and someone enters incorrect info in your line 
even when the documentation is right there as a “Source”.  

Yes if names are duplicates, you merge them after careful review.  Names can 
also be unnerved if you find it’s not the same person or family.  At times I 
call family search library and talk to missionaries who are there to help 
answer questions when you are stuck with a situation like you mentioned.  
Number is upper right area. 

  But Sometimes I have to remind myself that these names do not belong only to 
me but that these people might have descendants scattered in parts of the world 
beyond what I thought.  

On Ancestry i  had entered names and photos and some people picked up the “leaf 
hints”  and adopted the photos and ancestors.  But they were incorrect.  I 
contacted the person and told them how their ancestor was a different person 
from a different island, etc.  to my disappointment, the corrections were not 
made.  From that time forth, I did not enter more info on ancestry.  Actually, 
now my tree in Ancestry is private.   

I do, however, enter all my info on family search.  

There was a person who inserted a child who was born before the parents in one 
instance and I contacted them and together we tried to find his ancestor.  It 
took time and a call to Salt Lake  but it was corrected.  At least there’s some 
place to get help. 

I have also connected with distant cousins who entered other parts of the 
family.  Pretty cool!  

I have found duplicates and merged them and therefore added to a family  line.  
I document every name that I enter with the link to the source.  Yes, it is not 
required, I just feel it is the right thing to do after doing all the research. 
   

There is a section for disagreement or questioning towards the bottom of every 
name.

Yes, I would contact the person who entered incorrect info and I would ask if 
they can provide document action as well.  Most people want to do it right but 
there will be errors.  Like someone said in another email earlier, verify 
everything.  If it’s wrong, write in the section why it’s wrong and provide 
correct source.  

I don’t know if this gives you another perspective.  

Best wishes,

Maria Elena Lima


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:50 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get 
> spread. I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new 
> direction in my research but will need to be careful. I will verify and 
> document.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Rosemarie Capodicci
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base
>  
> These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
> genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases like 
> Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's verify 
> everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the correct 
> dates and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these people 
> could care less if the info is correct they just collect names and won't 
> respond to you. 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>  
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:35 AM,  wrote:
> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical 
> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
> errors
> Doreen Caetano
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Cathy Bourgeois]

If I contribute to that site, I always attach the record, but yes, a lot of the 
information is wrong or they have the same children twice with two different 
dates, etc.   But it may give you some hints to verify on your own.

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From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:09 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

You are right, Cheri, no documentation is required and that is the big problem. 
People just put stuff in and if there is a 'clue' about another name to add, 
they just do it without verifying. Just be careful what you add to your tree, 
Doreen!


Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Isn't that their "One World Family Tree?" They tried to merge all their stuff 
together. Anyone can contribute their information and anyone can correct 
information. No documentation required. I won't be submitting my stuff there. 
Rosemarie Capodicci or Gayle Machado may know more since they work (now or in 
the past) at a Family History Center (FHC). Cheri

On Jul 21, 2018 11:35 AM,  wrote:
I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Mary Bordi]

I have seen that all the time on Ancestry. Ive looked on Family Search
because someone claimed the info was well documented but in the little
investigating I’ve done there I don’t see where it’s any better than
Ancestry. (I may be wrong!)

I hate it on Ancestry when I get a new “hint” that looks promising and then
when I look into the source it’s only someone else’s unsourced tree.

It’s great that we have the ability to look up the baptisms, weddings and
obits in the original documents from the Azores and like Doreen I have
found dates in other’s trees to be wrong. I have seen this mostly when I’m
investigating what may be a DNA link. Some of those trees are not well
sourced.

Mary

On Saturday, July 21, 2018,  wrote:

> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found
> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but
> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical
> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their
> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the
> errors
>
> Doreen Caetano
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

You are right, Cheri, no documentation is required and that is the big
problem. People just put stuff in and if there is a 'clue' about another
name to add, they just do it without verifying. Just be careful what you
add to your tree, Doreen!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Isn't that their "One World Family Tree?" They tried to merge all their
> stuff together. Anyone can contribute their information and anyone can
> correct information. No documentation required. I won't be submitting my
> stuff there. Rosemarie Capodicci or Gayle Machado may know more since they
> work (now or in the past) at a Family History Center (FHC). Cheri
>
> On Jul 21, 2018 11:35 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found
>> children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but
>> when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical
>> for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their
>> reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the
>> errors
>>
>> Doreen Caetano
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[doreencaetano]

Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get spread. 
I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new direction in my 
research but will need to be careful. I will verify and document.

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From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:45 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really 
genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases like 
Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's verify 
everything!  Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the correct dates 
and have documentation, I wouldn't do anything. Most of these people could care 
less if the info is correct they just collect names and won't respond to you. 


Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 11:35 AM,  wrote:
I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

[doreencaetano]

I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found 
children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but 
when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for 
this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access their 
reference for the fact they show? Should I make someone there aware of the 
errors
Doreen Caetano

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