Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions
george, I have a copy of family tree Maker 2005, I'd be glad to send it to you if you need it, along with the disk.Let me know. Carl On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:58 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote: I wish i still had that the 2005 and 2008 I lost both my cd when i m oved to RI and when i upgrated to windows 7 i ended up bying the 2010 version and have upgrated to 2011 hate the way it makes the books in order to edit it i save a rtf file, but it messes up all my info it puts names togethers such as examples below ManuelBonifacio SãoMiguel AçoresHe died and much more etc. Now it takes me weeks to check all my notes and info to make a book. I hate both versions. The reason I copy its because i have notes in 2 languages need to translate it. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Ralph Sellars resj...@yahoo.com wrote: Family Tree Maker 2011 A second opinion FIRST IMPRESSION Having read Kathy Cardozas positive review of Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions- Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:13 PM and having been using 13 different Family Tree Maker version 1 to 2005 since 1992 with currently 18,946 individual records I decided to break down and up date my 2005 version to the current version for windows. A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT ! Don't be mislead by the title Family Tree Maker ! This new version is no longer the Family Tree Maker I know. It is a completely different software package. I recognized none of the familiar windows of my previous versions. The old standard Family View is gone. In its place appears to be a totally different view containing some 6 (or more, depending on what you count as a window) different windows crunched on to one screen. Visualize, an index window on the left side, a primary individual window on the right side, an ancestor chart window at the center top, a children's list at the center bottom, with two or three windows between the center top and bottom who's function I have not yet figured out. One says Henry Joan (who I don't recognize), another says Add Parents yet it shows the birth and death of the primary individual shown in the right side window ? and a window titled Marriage which appears to be a repeat that is in the primary individual window! The application that I received I do not consider an upgrade, or version of the Family Tree Maker. It is a completely new and different program that neither looks even similar or works like or similar to the former Family Tree Maker. It may well be a better program but it is misleading to say the least, to label it as what was once known formally as the #1-selling family history software . It will take this individual a long and steep learning curve to be able to use, let alone be comfortable with, this totally new rewritten and different program. For Christmas I received a 130 page history of the French Family 1555-1995 by Eleanor M. Crouch. After two days of attempting to record new information in the new software application I have reverted back to my old 2005 version of Family Tree Maker So if you are considering buying or upgrading to Family Tree Maker by Ancestry.com be aware it is very very different from the Family Tree Maker programs published from about 1992 through 2005 Ralph Sellars --- On *Fri, 11/12/10, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com* wrote: From: Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:13 PM I have used many genealogy programs over the years, both for Macs and for PCs and own several for both platforms. Reunion (Mac) has generally been my program of choice, though, as it is generally a very fine program, thorough, and easy to work with. I am always intrigued by trying out new programs, looking for that perfect one. To that end, I recently purchased FTM for the Mac and have been working with it this last week. This is not a complete review, but is only my first impressions of the program, both pro and con. I hope it will be helpful to you if you are considering purchasing it. First of all, there are two versions of this program . One, for $69 is sold directly from Ancestry http://store.ancestry.com/ProductDetail.aspx?P=P-4845. The other version sells for $99 but includes a Toolkit of 6 PDF books that may or may not be helpful to you. It also includes a 6 month membership to the U.S. collection on Ancestry. Before I purchased mine, I called Ancestry to find out if I could apply that additional 6 months to my current Ancestry subscription and was told Yes. I purchased my copy at Office Max, but it is also sold at Best Buy, Office Depot, Amazon, and Apple stores. After I purchased and registered it, I called Ancestry and they added 6 months to my subscription. That, alone, is worth the additional $30, in my opinion! I first
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions
I wish i still had that the 2005 and 2008 I lost both my cd when i m oved to RI and when i upgrated to windows 7 i ended up bying the 2010 version and have upgrated to 2011 hate the way it makes the books in order to edit it i save a rtf file, but it messes up all my info it puts names togethers such as examples below ManuelBonifacio SãoMiguel AçoresHe died and much more etc. Now it takes me weeks to check all my notes and info to make a book. I hate both versions. The reason I copy its because i have notes in 2 languages need to translate it. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Ralph Sellars resj...@yahoo.com wrote: Family Tree Maker 2011 A second opinion FIRST IMPRESSION Having read Kathy Cardozas positive review of Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions- Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:13 PM and having been using 13 different Family Tree Maker version 1 to 2005 since 1992 with currently 18,946 individual records I decided to break down and up date my 2005 version to the current version for windows. A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT ! Don't be mislead by the title Family Tree Maker ! This new version is no longer the Family Tree Maker I know. It is a completely different software package. I recognized none of the familiar windows of my previous versions. The old standard Family View is gone. In its place appears to be a totally different view containing some 6 (or more, depending on what you count as a window) different windows crunched on to one screen. Visualize, an index window on the left side, a primary individual window on the right side, an ancestor chart window at the center top, a children's list at the center bottom, with two or three windows between the center top and bottom who's function I have not yet figured out. One says Henry Joan (who I don't recognize), another says Add Parents yet it shows the birth and death of the primary individual shown in the right side window ? and a window titled Marriage which appears to be a repeat that is in the primary individual window! The application that I received I do not consider an upgrade, or version of the Family Tree Maker. It is a completely new and different program that neither looks even similar or works like or similar to the former Family Tree Maker. It may well be a better program but it is misleading to say the least, to label it as what was once known formally as the #1-selling family history software . It will take this individual a long and steep learning curve to be able to use, let alone be comfortable with, this totally new rewritten and different program. For Christmas I received a 130 page history of the French Family 1555-1995 by Eleanor M. Crouch. After two days of attempting to record new information in the new software application I have reverted back to my old 2005 version of Family Tree Maker So if you are considering buying or upgrading to Family Tree Maker by Ancestry.com be aware it is very very different from the Family Tree Maker programs published from about 1992 through 2005 Ralph Sellars --- On *Fri, 11/12/10, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com* wrote: From: Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:13 PM I have used many genealogy programs over the years, both for Macs and for PCs and own several for both platforms. Reunion (Mac) has generally been my program of choice, though, as it is generally a very fine program, thorough, and easy to work with. I am always intrigued by trying out new programs, looking for that perfect one. To that end, I recently purchased FTM for the Mac and have been working with it this last week. This is not a complete review, but is only my first impressions of the program, both pro and con. I hope it will be helpful to you if you are considering purchasing it. First of all, there are two versions of this program . One, for $69 is sold directly from Ancestry http://store.ancestry.com/ProductDetail.aspx?P=P-4845. The other version sells for $99 but includes a Toolkit of 6 PDF books that may or may not be helpful to you. It also includes a 6 month membership to the U.S. collection on Ancestry. Before I purchased mine, I called Ancestry to find out if I could apply that additional 6 months to my current Ancestry subscription and was told Yes. I purchased my copy at Office Max, but it is also sold at Best Buy, Office Depot, Amazon, and Apple stores. After I purchased and registered it, I called Ancestry and they added 6 months to my subscription. That, alone, is worth the additional $30, in my opinion! I first prepared a gedcom in Reunion of my 9,000+ individuals and imported it into FTM. That process went very smoothly and quick. As most everyone knows (or should know) gedcom is NOT a perfect process, nor do you get perfect
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions
Great information Kathy, I hope you gave this to Ancestry for improvement feedback! Adair On Nov 12, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Kathy Cardoza wrote: I have used many genealogy programs over the years, both for Macs and for PCs and own several for both platforms. Reunion (Mac) has generally been my program of choice, though, as it is generally a very fine program, thorough, and easy to work with. I am always intrigued by trying out new programs, looking for that perfect one. To that end, I recently purchased FTM for the Mac and have been working with it this last week. This is not a complete review, but is only my first impressions of the program, both pro and con. I hope it will be helpful to you if you are considering purchasing it. First of all, there are two versions of this program . One, for $69 is sold directly from Ancestry http://store.ancestry.com/ ProductDetail.aspx?P=P-4845. The other version sells for $99 but includes a Toolkit of 6 PDF books that may or may not be helpful to you. It also includes a 6 month membership to the U.S. collection on Ancestry. Before I purchased mine, I called Ancestry to find out if I could apply that additional 6 months to my current Ancestry subscription and was told Yes. I purchased my copy at Office Max, but it is also sold at Best Buy, Office Depot, Amazon, and Apple stores. After I purchased and registered it, I called Ancestry and they added 6 months to my subscription. That, alone, is worth the additional $30, in my opinion! I first prepared a gedcom in Reunion of my 9,000+ individuals and imported it into FTM. That process went very smoothly and quick. As most everyone knows (or should know) gedcom is NOT a perfect process, nor do you get perfect results. This was no exception. (Also, because I store my genealogy files in Dropbox and share them with both my computers, I changed the default place FTM wanted to put my file, to my Dropbox.) The program feels pretty Mac-like, in general. One thing I noticed right off, though, was that, after the import, I clicked the button to View the Log. and it opened up Parallels on my Mac to go into the Windows XP System that I run on my Mac! OopsNot very Mac friendly there and bad first impression. :) Gedcom import: Generally, most things were handled very well in the import. Notable exceptions were that many of my Misc. Event tags in Reunion (gedcom tag was EVEN) did not survive the import. Those included events such as Illness, Accident, Surgery, Register to Vote, and Fraternal Society Joined events that I added myself into Reunion and had given the EVEN gedcom tag. When I realized this, I had to mark those individuals in Reunion and add those Facts (as FTM calls them) into FTM one by one. I am still in the process of doing this but am getting close to being finished with it. Notes: I use quite a few Notes in Reunion and have added my own with the gedcom tag of NOTE; Census (where I record the entire household for each census), Probate, and Military as well as the default one for each individual of Misc. Notes. It seems that only one Note was imported for each person so if they had a Military note, for example, you will have to manually add that into FTM as part of your Military Fact for that person. Facts: FTM calls everything a Fact. There is a very large Note field attached to each Fact. I do not know if there is a character limit to this field as there is in Reunion (which is rather small). It is a very large field for adding data so there is plenty of room to add in your Note data from Reunion. When you publish a report such as an Individual Person Report, these Fact Notes don't appear immediately below the Fact data (date and place) but instead are gathered at the end of the report. I didn't like that at first, preferring to have ALL the pertinent data including the Memo/Note, all together with the event data. But, after working with this for a while, I see the merits of having that Note data appear at the end of the report (before Sources, if you choose to include them). You have an uncluttered view of all the Facts (Events) in a person's life, shown as a concise list at the beginning of the report. It makes it easy to view those events but if you want more info on each one, you can refer to the end of the report where that data appears. Sources: FTM has a set of templates included for adding specific source types. I haven't done a lot of these so far so I can't really give you much feedback on it as of yet. At first glance, though, it seems to be somewhat limited for templates. The Source View, though, is very complete. You can click on one of your sources on the left side and immediately see all the source citation detail as well as the links (the people or event it is being used on) and the media attached to it. Very nice! You can also rate
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions
Wow,... thanks you Kathy for the in-depth assessment. I am sure many will benefit from it. Hermano From: kmacard...@mac.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac --- my first impressions Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:13:25 -0800 To: azores@googlegroups.com I have used many genealogy programs over the years, both for Macs and for PCs and own several for both platforms. Reunion (Mac) has generally been my program of choice, though, as it is generally a very fine program, thorough, and easy to work with. I am always intrigued by trying out new programs, looking for that perfect one. To that end, I recently purchased FTM for the Mac and have been working with it this last week. This is not a complete review, but is only my first impressions of the program, both pro and con. I hope it will be helpful to you if you are considering purchasing it. First of all, there are two versions of this program . One, for $69 is sold directly from Ancestry http://store.ancestry.com/ProductDetail.aspx?P=P-4845. The other version sells for $99 but includes a Toolkit of 6 PDF books that may or may not be helpful to you. It also includes a 6 month membership to the U.S. collection on Ancestry. Before I purchased mine, I called Ancestry to find out if I could apply that additional 6 months to my current Ancestry subscription and was told Yes. I purchased my copy at Office Max, but it is also sold at Best Buy, Office Depot, Amazon, and Apple stores. After I purchased and registered it, I called Ancestry and they added 6 months to my subscription. That, alone, is worth the additional $30, in my opinion! I first prepared a gedcom in Reunion of my 9,000+ individuals and imported it into FTM. That process went very smoothly and quick. As most everyone knows (or should know) gedcom is NOT a perfect process, nor do you get perfect results. This was no exception. (Also, because I store my genealogy files in Dropbox and share them with both my computers, I changed the default place FTM wanted to put my file, to my Dropbox.) The program feels pretty Mac-like, in general. One thing I noticed right off, though, was that, after the import, I clicked the button to View the Log. and it opened up Parallels on my Mac to go into the Windows XP System that I run on my Mac! OopsNot very Mac friendly there and bad first impression. :) Gedcom import: Generally, most things were handled very well in the import. Notable exceptions were that many of my Misc. Event tags in Reunion (gedcom tag was EVEN) did not survive the import. Those included events such as Illness, Accident, Surgery, Register to Vote, and Fraternal Society Joined events that I added myself into Reunion and had given the EVEN gedcom tag. When I realized this, I had to mark those individuals in Reunion and add those Facts (as FTM calls them) into FTM one by one. I am still in the process of doing this but am getting close to being finished with it. Notes: I use quite a few Notes in Reunion and have added my own with the gedcom tag of NOTE; Census (where I record the entire household for each census), Probate, and Military as well as the default one for each individual of Misc. Notes. It seems that only one Note was imported for each person so if they had a Military note, for example, you will have to manually add that into FTM as part of your Military Fact for that person. Facts: FTM calls everything a Fact. There is a very large Note field attached to each Fact. I do not know if there is a character limit to this field as there is in Reunion (which is rather small). It is a very large field for adding data so there is plenty of room to add in your Note data from Reunion. When you publish a report such as an Individual Person Report, these Fact Notes don't appear immediately below the Fact data (date and place) but instead are gathered at the end of the report. I didn't like that at first, preferring to have ALL the pertinent data including the Memo/Note, all together with the event data. But, after working with this for a while, I see the merits of having that Note data appear at the end of the report (before Sources, if you choose to include them). You have an uncluttered view of all the Facts (Events) in a person's life, shown as a concise list at the beginning of the report. It makes it easy to view those events but if you want more info on each one, you can refer to the end of the report where that data appears. Sources: FTM has a set of templates included for adding specific source types. I haven't done a lot of these so far so I can't really give you much feedback on it as of yet. At first glance, though, it seems to be somewhat limited for templates. The Source View, though, is very complete. You can click on one of your sources on the left side and immediately see all the source citation detail as well
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for Mac - Dick Eastman's review
Here's what Dick Eastman has to say about the Mac version of Family Tree Maker http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/11/hands-on-family-tree-maker-for-macintosh-version-2010.html or http://tinyurl.com/2vmwy2r Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for MAC
I just found this on the Family Tree Maker site: http://www.familytreemaker.com/Mac/Default.aspx You asked for it and we listened. Announcing Family Tree Maker® Mac. If you’re on a Mac, you’ll soon be able to take advantage of the world’s best-selling genealogy application to create your family tree. Since we have a new Mac, and I use FTM on my Toshiba laptop, may be useful in the future to have on both laptop computers. Can never have it on too many computers, backups, etc. :-) E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
