Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-29 Thread elle
Hello John,
Forgive me for joining in this conversation -* *am still trying to figure 
out how this group works.  A few years ago you were kind enough to send me 
info - I wonder if you mght be willing to send what you have again. *  *I 
seem to have several blanks.  My grandfather was Francisco da Silva born 15 
Nov 1881 in Mosteiros, Ponta Delgado, San Miguel.  His father was Henrique 
da Silva born appros 1855 and mother was Ana Jacinta de Medeiros (not much 
info on either of them)
Next generation was Francisco da Silva and Ana Rosa (again no info)
 
I seem to remember that we are distantly related.  I would truly appreciate 
any info you can give me.  The only document I have is my grandfather's 
birth cert.  I have ordered the Family Finder and intend to send it in as 
soon as I decide who to test.
 
Thank you,
Ellen Ade
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:35:18 PM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote:

 Dear fellow researchers:

 For whatever it is worth, here is what I have in my files. Please check 
 and verify.

 John Miranda Raposo

 *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisco de Frias 
 *
 * *
 *First Generation*
 * *
 1.* Francisco de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa, São Miguel, 
 Açores and  married *Miquelina Rosa.* . Miquelina was born in Santa Cruz, 
 Lagoa. 
 * *
 *Second Generation*
 * *
   2.* Jose de Frias Bode * was born in Santa Cruz, and married 
 Barbara Maria da Purificação.  
   3.* Barbara Maria da Purificacão* was born in Rosario. 
 * *
 *Third Generation*
 * *
   4.* Francisco de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz and married Ana 
 Maria on 30 Mar 1788 in Santa Cruz. 
   5.* Ana Maria* was born in Rosario.
  
   6.* Joaquim Jose Borges* was born in Ponta Delgada, baptized in São 
 Pedro, Ponta Delgada, and married Antonia Jacinta on 9 Nov 1796 in Santa 
 Cruz. 
   7.* Antónia Jacinta *was born1  on 1 Dec 1776 in Santa Cruz, and 
 was baptized on 8 Dec 1776. 
 * *
 *Fourth Generation*
 * *
   8.* Antonio de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz, and married Maria da 
 Costa.  
   9.* Maria da Costa *was born in Santa Cruz. 
  
 10.* Manuel Rego *2  was born in Rosário , where he married3  Maria 
 de Jesus Pimentel on 31 Aug 1755. 
 NOTES: In the mariage record of his daughter, Anna Maria, he was listed as 
 ausente (absent). 
  
 11.* Maria de Jesus Pimentel * was born in Rosario and died before 
 Mar 1788. 
  
 12.* Francisco Inácio *was born in São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, and 
 married Joaquina Rosa.  
 13.* Joaquina Rosa* was born in Ponta Delgada and was baptized in 
 Matriz de  São Pedro. 
  
 14.* Jerónimo do Rego *was born4  on 5 Feb 1732 in Santa Cruz, was 
 baptized on 9 Feb 1732 in Santa Cruz where he married5  Maria da Estrela 
 on 26 Apr 1762.
  
 CHRISTENING-NOTE: Godparents were Mathias Cabral, child of Mathias Cabral 
 and Maria Paiva, and Joanna Lra wife of Joam Martis. 
 NOTE: The spelling of Ironimo's given name varies in the christening 
 records of his children between Jeronimo and Ironimo. 
  
 15.* Maria da Estrela* was born in Ribeira Grand and died before Nov 
 1796.  
 * *
 *Fifth Generation*
 * *
 20.* Manuel Ferreira* was born in Rosario and married6  Catarina Rego 
 in 1717 in Rosario. 
 21.* Catarina do  Rego *was born in Rosario.
  
 22.* João Pimentel *.João married Josefa de Frias.  
 23.* Josefa de Frias *.
  
 28.* Jose Lopes Oliveira* married7  Maria de Sousa on 23 Nov 1729 in 
 Lagoa. 
 29.* Maria de Sousa*.
  
 30.* Antonio da Costa* married Joana de Medeiros.  
 31.* Joana de Medeiros *. 
 * *
 *Sixth Generation
 *
 *
 *
 40.* Manuel Ferreira Capua * was born in Rosario where he married8  Maria 
 Ferreira Martins on 1 Mar 1677. 
 41.* Maria Ferreira Martins* was born in Rosario. 
  
 42.* Antonio de Frias *was born in Rosario, Lagoa where he married9  
 Isabel 
 do Rego on 6 Nov 1688. 
 43.* Isabel do Rego * was born in Rosario.
  
 56.* Manuel Lopes de Morais* married Maria Feireira.  
 57.* Maria Feireira *.
  
 58.* Manuel do Rego Baldaia* was born10  about Dec 1667 in Santa 
 Cruz, L was baptized on 23 Dec 1667 in Santa Cruz and married11  Maria de 
 Sousa on 25 May 1697 in Lagoa.
  
 NOTE: The christening record lists the year as setenta, but in context 
 with the preceding and following records, it is clearly wrong and should 
 be sessenta. 
  
 59.* Maria de Sousa * was born in Agua de Pau. 
  
 * *
 *Seventh Generation*
 * *
 80.* Manuel Ferreira * was born in Rosario and married Luzia Jorge. 
  81.* Luzia Jorge * was born in Agua de Pau, São Miguel, Açores. 
  
 82.* Manuel Fernandes * was born in Rosario and married12  Ana 
 Martins on 1 Aug 1637 in Rosario. 
 83.* Ana Martins * was born in Rosario.
  
 84.* Valentim de Medeiros * was born in Estrela, Ribeira Grande and 
 died on 17 Aug 1705 in Rosario. He was buried in Ermida de São Pedro, 
 Lagoa. He married13  Barbara Fragoso on 30 Oct 1661 in Rosario. 
 85.* Barbara 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-28 Thread mcfariar
Hi Hermano  Nancy,

How did I get Jose's mother's name?  On his birth record, it shows only 
Anna Maria.  I have only been looking at birth records which shows child, 
parents  grandparents info. that is how I have connected the dots. 
 Through all his brothers  sisters birth record I got Anna Maria de Jesus 
Rosa, but no surname, so thank you for the Pimentel maiden name.  I have 
been searching on the internet through the Azores archives.  I know how to 
read in portuguese, which I learned here in North America.  
I knew that Jose was married to his first wife, but I only found 2 
children, I did not know that there are 4 kids, so thank you for that.
Wow, can you imagine that Barbara had 16 children! 
I also have Costa  Rego in my family tree.  I think that we are cousins in 
more than just one lineage, it is a small island after all.
Jose Rodrigues Pimentel  Josefa de Frias:  I did not have that info, so 
thanks for that.

COSTA = my other ancestors = *Françisco da Costa  **Joanna da Conçeicao 
Andrade* = I have counted up to 7 children, so far.
This couple has shown up twice in my family tree, making my grandparents 
4th cousins.
 *Françisco da Costa** *Born:  March 11, 1761.

Happy Hunting, Maria.

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:28:35 PM UTC-5, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and Nancy
 You are not going to stay incognita are you? :))
 I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus 
 Pimentel. I see that you  have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. 
 Could you please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the 
 grandmothers name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do 
 Rego) and the name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao 
 Rodrigues Pimentel and Josefa de Frias.
 Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I have. What I 
 don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add but confirm 
 with an X.
 Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's maiden name.
 Your not so distant cousin.
 Hermano da Costa Pires
 --
 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:47:48 -0700
 From: mcfa...@rogers.com javascript:
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in 
 Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

 Hi Nancy  Hermano:

 Nancy you were right about the dates.  I double checked.
 I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao**  
 José de Frias*.  Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 
 3, 1824.  Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849.  I am so excited 
 that I am not the only one looking back.  I have no dates:  born, died, 
 married, etc. for Barbara  Jose's parents and grandparents.  *Jose de 
 Frias* parents are:  *Françisco de Frias  **Anna Maria Rego *married* 
 *1788March30, 
  paternal:  *Antonio de Frias  **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do 
 Rego  * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa.  *
 *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges  **Antonia 
 Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: *
 *
 *Françisco Ignacio Rego*  *Joaquina Rosa Maria*;   maternal:  *Geronimo 
 do Rego*  *Maria da Estrella*.

 Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira  Maria de Lima?
 *Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de 
 Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte and Maria de Medeiros his parents*

 Their (Barbara  Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849:

 Francisco, born 1825  *- *Nancy's ancestor*; 20 Sep 1825*
 Francisco, born; 27 sep 1827
 Joaquim, born 1828*; 4 Aug 1828*
 Victor, born 1829 *?*
 Maria, born 1830 *(Maria Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)*
 Marianna 1832;* 6 Aug 1832)*
 *Maria, born 3 Jul 1833*
 *Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834*
 Manuel 1834 *?*
 Marianno 1835*; *I have a Mariana, born 14 Feb183
 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name:  *Manuel José Borges de Frias 
 Bodé*; *17 Nov 1836*
 *Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 1839*
 Margarida 1840 *(Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840*
 Joao 1842 *(Joao Jose de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842*
 Antonia 1847*; 9 Feb 1847*
 Maria 1849*; 29 Dec 1849*
 ** 
 *Jose de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to 
 Margarida Jacinta Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; 
 Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and Joao, 1824.*

 If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a 
 break from looking back.  The research is not easy.
 My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel.  He passed away 13 years 
 ago.  He told me about his parents and grandparents.
 Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure.

 Your very distant cousin,
 Maria.


 On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
 Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
 Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
 Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. 
 The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-28 Thread mcfariar
Hi Hermano

I double checked what I have:

Jose de Frias = (father) Francisco de Frias = (grandparents) *Antonio de 
Frias  Maria da Costa*

Jose de Frias = (mother) Anna Maria   = (grandparents) Manuel do Rego  
Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa

Manuel Rego's parents =* Manuel ?  Catharina do Rego*

Maria de Jesus parents = *Joao PimentelJosefa de Frias*

Maria.

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:28:35 PM UTC-5, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and Nancy
 You are not going to stay incognita are you? :))
 I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus 
 Pimentel. I see that you  have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. 
 Could you please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the 
 grandmothers name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do 
 Rego) and the name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao 
 Rodrigues Pimentel and Josefa de Frias.
 Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I have. What I 
 don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add but confirm 
 with an X.
 Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's maiden name.
 Your not so distant cousin.
 Hermano da Costa Pires
 --
 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:47:48 -0700
 From: mcfa...@rogers.com javascript:
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in 
 Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

 Hi Nancy  Hermano:

 Nancy you were right about the dates.  I double checked.
 I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao**  
 José de Frias*.  Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 
 3, 1824.  Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849.  I am so excited 
 that I am not the only one looking back.  I have no dates:  born, died, 
 married, etc. for Barbara  Jose's parents and grandparents.  *Jose de 
 Frias* parents are:  *Françisco de Frias  **Anna Maria Rego *married* 
 *1788March30, 
  paternal:  *Antonio de Frias  **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do 
 Rego  * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa.  *
 *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges  **Antonia 
 Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: *
 *
 *Françisco Ignacio Rego*  *Joaquina Rosa Maria*;   maternal:  *Geronimo 
 do Rego*  *Maria da Estrella*.

 Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira  Maria de Lima?
 *Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de 
 Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte and Maria de Medeiros his parents*

 Their (Barbara  Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849:

 Francisco, born 1825  *- *Nancy's ancestor*; 20 Sep 1825*
 Francisco, born; 27 sep 1827
 Joaquim, born 1828*; 4 Aug 1828*
 Victor, born 1829 *?*
 Maria, born 1830 *(Maria Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)*
 Marianna 1832;* 6 Aug 1832)*
 *Maria, born 3 Jul 1833*
 *Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834*
 Manuel 1834 *?*
 Marianno 1835*; *I have a Mariana, born 14 Feb183
 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name:  *Manuel José Borges de Frias 
 Bodé*; *17 Nov 1836*
 *Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 1839*
 Margarida 1840 *(Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840*
 Joao 1842 *(Joao Jose de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842*
 Antonia 1847*; 9 Feb 1847*
 Maria 1849*; 29 Dec 1849*
 ** 
 *Jose de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to 
 Margarida Jacinta Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; 
 Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and Joao, 1824.*

 If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a 
 break from looking back.  The research is not easy.
 My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel.  He passed away 13 years 
 ago.  He told me about his parents and grandparents.
 Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure.

 Your very distant cousin,
 Maria.


 On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
 Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
 Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
 Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. 
 The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's 
 parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia 
 do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).
 Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and 
 Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)
 Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have 
 information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, 
 from Agua de Pau).
 Let me know if I can help.
 Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it 
 used to be).
 Would love to exchange information.
 If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.
 Happy New Year and God Bless.
 Hermano
  
 --
 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in 
 Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
 From: nvcou...@gmail.com
 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-27 Thread mcfariar
Hi Nancy  Hermano:

Nancy you were right about the dates.  I double checked.
I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao**  José 
de Frias*.  Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 
1824.  Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849.  I am so excited that 
I am not the only one looking back.  I have no dates:  born, died, married, 
etc. for Barbara  Jose's parents and grandparents.  *Jose de Frias*parents 
are:  
*Françisco de Frias  **Anna Maria Rego *married* *1788March30,  paternal:  
*Antonio de Frias  **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do Rego  * *Anna 
Maria de Jesus Rosa.  *
*Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges  **Antonia 
Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: *
*
*Françisco Ignacio Rego*  *Joaquina Rosa Maria*;   maternal:  *Geronimo do 
Rego*  *Maria da Estrella*.

Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira  Maria de Lima?

Their (Barbara  Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849:

Francisco, born 1825  *- *Nancy's ancestor
Joaquim, born 1828
Victor, born 1829
Maria, born 1830
Marianna 1832
Manuel 1834
Marianno 1835
Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name:  *Manuel José Borges de Frias 
Bodé*
Margarida 1840
Joao 1842
Antonia 1847
Maria 1849

If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break 
from looking back.  The research is not easy.
My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel.  He passed away 13 years 
ago.  He told me about his parents and grandparents.
Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure.

Your very distant cousin,
Maria.


On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
 Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
 Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
 Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. 
 The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's 
 parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia 
 do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).
 Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and 
 Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)
 Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have 
 information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, 
 from Agua de Pau).
 Let me know if I can help.
 Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it 
 used to be).
 Would love to exchange information.
 If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.
 Happy New Year and God Bless.
 Hermano
  
 --
 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in 
 Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
 From: nvcou...@gmail.com javascript:
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:

 Dear mcfariar,

 Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd 
 great-grandmother.  Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 
 2nd great-grandfather.  The only information I have for Barbara is that she 
 was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa.  But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and 
 have given birth in 1825.  Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, 
 and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage.

 Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a 
 niece or a cousin.  

 I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree.  I think 
 it's likely that we are related in some way.  

 Nancy



 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com

 Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I 
 have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I 
 found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: 

 Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of 
 Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora 
 do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa  Maria Joaquina. Materna: 
 Andre Rego  Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. 
 Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. 

 Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. 
 Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years 
 old?* 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-27 Thread Nancy Couto
Thanks, Maria.  I think that makes us third cousins once removed.  I didn't
have the names of Barbara's maternal grandparents or the names and dates of
all the children, so you've given me starting points for a lot of
additional research.  I probably won't have time for any serious research
until the middle of June, but if I turn up anything new about this family,
I'll let you know.

Thanks again, and best wishes,
Nancy




On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:47 AM, mcfar...@rogers.com wrote:

 Hi Nancy  Hermano:

 Nancy you were right about the dates.  I double checked.
 I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao** 
 José de Frias*.  Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct.
 3, 1824.  Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849.  I am so excited
 that I am not the only one looking back.  I have no dates:  born, died,
 married, etc. for Barbara  Jose's parents and grandparents.  *Jose de
 Frias* parents are:  *Françisco de Frias  **Anna Maria Rego *married* 
 *1788March30,
  paternal:  *Antonio de Frias  **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do
 Rego  * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa.  *
 *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges  **Antonia
 Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: *
 *
 *Françisco Ignacio Rego*  *Joaquina Rosa Maria*;   maternal:  *Geronimo
 do Rego*  *Maria da Estrella*.

 Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira  Maria de Lima?

 Their (Barbara  Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849:

 Francisco, born 1825  *- *Nancy's ancestor
 Joaquim, born 1828
 Victor, born 1829
 Maria, born 1830
 Marianna 1832
 Manuel 1834
 Marianno 1835
 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name:  *Manuel José Borges de Frias
 Bodé*
 Margarida 1840
 Joao 1842
 Antonia 1847
 Maria 1849

 If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a
 break from looking back.  The research is not easy.
 My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel.  He passed away 13 years
 ago.  He told me about his parents and grandparents.
 Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure.

 Your very distant cousin,
 Maria.


 On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
 Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
 Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
 Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz.
 The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's
 parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia
 do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).
 Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and
 Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)
 Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have
 information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima,
 from Agua de Pau).
 Let me know if I can help.
 Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it
 used to be).
 Would love to exchange information.
 If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.
 Happy New Year and God Bless.
 Hermano

 --
 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in
 Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
 From: nvcou...@gmail.com
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com


 Dear mcfariar,

 Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd
 great-grandmother.  Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my
 2nd great-grandfather.  The only information I have for Barbara is that she
 was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa.  But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and
 have given birth in 1825.  Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife,
 and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage.

 Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a
 niece or a cousin.

 I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree.  I think
 it's likely that we are related in some way.

 Nancy



 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com

 Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I
 have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I
 found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states:

 Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of
 Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa
 Senhora
 do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa  Maria Joaquina. Materna:
 Andre Rego  Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819.
 Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva.

 Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch.
 Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years
 old?*

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-04-27 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and NancyYou are not going to stay incognita are you? 
:))I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus Pimentel. 
I see that you  have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. Could you 
please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the grandmothers 
name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do Rego) and the 
name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao Rodrigues Pimentel and 
Josefa de Frias.Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I 
have. What I don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add 
but confirm with an X.Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's 
maiden name.Your not so distant cousin.Hermano da Costa PiresDate: Sat, 27 Apr 
2013 04:47:48 -0700
From: mcfar...@rogers.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa 
and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

Hi Nancy  Hermano:
Nancy you were right about the dates.  I double checked.I am the 4th great, 
granddaughter of Barbara Maria da Purificacao  José de Frias.  Barbara's 
birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824.  Barbara had 12 
children between 1825 and 1849.  I am so excited that I am not the only one 
looking back.  I have no dates:  born, died, married, etc. for Barbara  Jose's 
parents and grandparents.  Jose de Frias parents are:  Françisco de Frias  
Anna Maria Rego married 1788March30,  paternal:  Antonio de Frias  Maria da 
Costa; maternal: Manuel do Rego   Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa.  Barbara Maria da 
Purificacao's parents are Joaquim José Borges  Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do 
Nascimento, paternal: 
Françisco Ignacio Rego  Joaquina Rosa Maria;   maternal:  Geronimo do Rego  
Maria da Estrella.
Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira  Maria de Lima?Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de 
Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte 
and Maria de Medeiros his parents
Their (Barbara  Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849:

Francisco, born 1825  - Nancy's ancestor; 20 Sep 1825Francisco, born; 27 sep 
1827Joaquim, born 1828; 4 Aug 1828Victor, born 1829 ?Maria, born 1830 (Maria 
Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)Marianna 1832; 6 Aug 1832)Maria, born 3 Jul 
1833Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834Manuel 1834 ?Marianno 1835; I have a 
Mariana, born 14 Feb183Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name:  Manuel José 
Borges de Frias Bodé; 17 Nov 1836Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 
1839Margarida 1840 (Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840Joao 1842 (Joao Jose 
de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842Antonia 1847; 9 Feb 1847Maria 1849; 29 Dec 1849 Jose 
de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to Margarida Jacinta 
Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and 
Joao, 1824.
If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break 
from looking back.  The research is not easy.My father was born in Rosario, 
Lagoa, S.Miguel.  He passed away 13 years ago.  He told me about his parents 
and grandparents.Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure.
Your very distant cousin,Maria.

On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote:


Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. 
The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents 
are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento 
(from Santa Cruz).
Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina 
Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)
Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have 
information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from 
Agua de Pau).
Let me know if I can help.
Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used 
to be).
Would love to exchange information.
If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.
Happy New Year and God Bless.
Hermano
 
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa 
and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
From: nvcou...@gmail.com
To: azo...@googlegroups.com

Dear mcfariar,

Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd 
great-grandmother.  Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd 
great-grandfather.  The only information I have for Barbara is that she was 
born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa.  But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have 
given birth in 1825.  Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 
sounds about the right time frame for their marriage.


Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece 
or a cousin.  

I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree.  I think it's 
likely that we are related in some way.  


Nancy



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-01-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com

Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I
have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I
found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states:

Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of
Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora
do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa  Maria Joaquina. Materna:
Andre Rego  Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819.
Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva.

Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch.
Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years
old?*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-01-17 Thread Nancy Couto
Dear mcfariar,

Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd
great-grandmother.  Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my
2nd great-grandfather.  The only information I have for Barbara is that she
was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa.  But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and
have given birth in 1825.  Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife,
and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage.

Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a
niece or a cousin.

I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree.  I think
it's likely that we are related in some way.

Nancy



On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com

 Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I
 have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I
 found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states:

 Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of
 Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora
 do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa  Maria Joaquina. Materna:
 Andre Rego  Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819.
 Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva.

 Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch.
 Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years
 old?*

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-01-17 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello Nancy  and mcfariarNancy I think that you are absolutely right!Barbara 
and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 
1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because 
our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) 
and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).Joaquin's parents were Francisco 
Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. 
D.)Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have 
information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from 
Agua de Pau).Let me know if I can help.Nancy I believe that we were in touch 
before (mind is not as clear as it used to be).Would love to exchange 
information.If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.Happy New Year and 
God Bless.Hermano Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa 
and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
From: nvcouto...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Dear mcfariar,

Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd 
great-grandmother.  Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd 
great-grandfather.  The only information I have for Barbara is that she was 
born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa.  But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have 
given birth in 1825.  Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 
sounds about the right time frame for their marriage.


Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece 
or a cousin.  

I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree.  I think it's 
likely that we are related in some way.  


Nancy



On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com

Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I 
have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I 



found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: 


Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of 
Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora 
do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa  Maria Joaquina. Materna: 



 Andre Rego  Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. 
 Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva.



Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. 
 Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years 
old?* 




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel

2013-01-17 Thread Nancy Couto
Dear Hermano,

Thank you so much for the information you sent.  I have been trying without
success to find Barbara's birth record and information about her parents.

We were in touch before, and I think we established that we are third
cousins.  Give me a couple of days to get my information together, and I'll
send you a copy so we can compare notes.

Thanks again, and best wishes,
Nancy



On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hello Nancy  and mcfariar
 Nancy I think that you are absolutely right!
 Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.
 Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz.
 The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's
 parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia
 do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).
 Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and
 Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)
 Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias  and Ana Maria do Rego (I have
 information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima,
 from Agua de Pau).
 Let me know if I can help.
 Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it
 used to be).
 Would love to exchange information.
 If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.
 Happy New Year and God Bless.
 Hermano




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