Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hello John, Forgive me for joining in this conversation -* *am still trying to figure out how this group works. A few years ago you were kind enough to send me info - I wonder if you mght be willing to send what you have again. * *I seem to have several blanks. My grandfather was Francisco da Silva born 15 Nov 1881 in Mosteiros, Ponta Delgado, San Miguel. His father was Henrique da Silva born appros 1855 and mother was Ana Jacinta de Medeiros (not much info on either of them) Next generation was Francisco da Silva and Ana Rosa (again no info) I seem to remember that we are distantly related. I would truly appreciate any info you can give me. The only document I have is my grandfather's birth cert. I have ordered the Family Finder and intend to send it in as soon as I decide who to test. Thank you, Ellen Ade On Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:35:18 PM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote: Dear fellow researchers: For whatever it is worth, here is what I have in my files. Please check and verify. John Miranda Raposo *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisco de Frias * * * *First Generation* * * 1.* Francisco de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores and married *Miquelina Rosa.* . Miquelina was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. * * *Second Generation* * * 2.* Jose de Frias Bode * was born in Santa Cruz, and married Barbara Maria da Purificação. 3.* Barbara Maria da Purificacão* was born in Rosario. * * *Third Generation* * * 4.* Francisco de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz and married Ana Maria on 30 Mar 1788 in Santa Cruz. 5.* Ana Maria* was born in Rosario. 6.* Joaquim Jose Borges* was born in Ponta Delgada, baptized in São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, and married Antonia Jacinta on 9 Nov 1796 in Santa Cruz. 7.* Antónia Jacinta *was born1 on 1 Dec 1776 in Santa Cruz, and was baptized on 8 Dec 1776. * * *Fourth Generation* * * 8.* Antonio de Frias * was born in Santa Cruz, and married Maria da Costa. 9.* Maria da Costa *was born in Santa Cruz. 10.* Manuel Rego *2 was born in Rosário , where he married3 Maria de Jesus Pimentel on 31 Aug 1755. NOTES: In the mariage record of his daughter, Anna Maria, he was listed as ausente (absent). 11.* Maria de Jesus Pimentel * was born in Rosario and died before Mar 1788. 12.* Francisco Inácio *was born in São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, and married Joaquina Rosa. 13.* Joaquina Rosa* was born in Ponta Delgada and was baptized in Matriz de São Pedro. 14.* Jerónimo do Rego *was born4 on 5 Feb 1732 in Santa Cruz, was baptized on 9 Feb 1732 in Santa Cruz where he married5 Maria da Estrela on 26 Apr 1762. CHRISTENING-NOTE: Godparents were Mathias Cabral, child of Mathias Cabral and Maria Paiva, and Joanna Lra wife of Joam Martis. NOTE: The spelling of Ironimo's given name varies in the christening records of his children between Jeronimo and Ironimo. 15.* Maria da Estrela* was born in Ribeira Grand and died before Nov 1796. * * *Fifth Generation* * * 20.* Manuel Ferreira* was born in Rosario and married6 Catarina Rego in 1717 in Rosario. 21.* Catarina do Rego *was born in Rosario. 22.* João Pimentel *.João married Josefa de Frias. 23.* Josefa de Frias *. 28.* Jose Lopes Oliveira* married7 Maria de Sousa on 23 Nov 1729 in Lagoa. 29.* Maria de Sousa*. 30.* Antonio da Costa* married Joana de Medeiros. 31.* Joana de Medeiros *. * * *Sixth Generation * * * 40.* Manuel Ferreira Capua * was born in Rosario where he married8 Maria Ferreira Martins on 1 Mar 1677. 41.* Maria Ferreira Martins* was born in Rosario. 42.* Antonio de Frias *was born in Rosario, Lagoa where he married9 Isabel do Rego on 6 Nov 1688. 43.* Isabel do Rego * was born in Rosario. 56.* Manuel Lopes de Morais* married Maria Feireira. 57.* Maria Feireira *. 58.* Manuel do Rego Baldaia* was born10 about Dec 1667 in Santa Cruz, L was baptized on 23 Dec 1667 in Santa Cruz and married11 Maria de Sousa on 25 May 1697 in Lagoa. NOTE: The christening record lists the year as setenta, but in context with the preceding and following records, it is clearly wrong and should be sessenta. 59.* Maria de Sousa * was born in Agua de Pau. * * *Seventh Generation* * * 80.* Manuel Ferreira * was born in Rosario and married Luzia Jorge. 81.* Luzia Jorge * was born in Agua de Pau, São Miguel, Açores. 82.* Manuel Fernandes * was born in Rosario and married12 Ana Martins on 1 Aug 1637 in Rosario. 83.* Ana Martins * was born in Rosario. 84.* Valentim de Medeiros * was born in Estrela, Ribeira Grande and died on 17 Aug 1705 in Rosario. He was buried in Ermida de São Pedro, Lagoa. He married13 Barbara Fragoso on 30 Oct 1661 in Rosario. 85.* Barbara
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hi Hermano Nancy, How did I get Jose's mother's name? On his birth record, it shows only Anna Maria. I have only been looking at birth records which shows child, parents grandparents info. that is how I have connected the dots. Through all his brothers sisters birth record I got Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa, but no surname, so thank you for the Pimentel maiden name. I have been searching on the internet through the Azores archives. I know how to read in portuguese, which I learned here in North America. I knew that Jose was married to his first wife, but I only found 2 children, I did not know that there are 4 kids, so thank you for that. Wow, can you imagine that Barbara had 16 children! I also have Costa Rego in my family tree. I think that we are cousins in more than just one lineage, it is a small island after all. Jose Rodrigues Pimentel Josefa de Frias: I did not have that info, so thanks for that. COSTA = my other ancestors = *Françisco da Costa **Joanna da Conçeicao Andrade* = I have counted up to 7 children, so far. This couple has shown up twice in my family tree, making my grandparents 4th cousins. *Françisco da Costa** *Born: March 11, 1761. Happy Hunting, Maria. On Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:28:35 PM UTC-5, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and Nancy You are not going to stay incognita are you? :)) I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus Pimentel. I see that you have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. Could you please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the grandmothers name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do Rego) and the name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao Rodrigues Pimentel and Josefa de Frias. Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I have. What I don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add but confirm with an X. Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's maiden name. Your not so distant cousin. Hermano da Costa Pires -- Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:47:48 -0700 From: mcfa...@rogers.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel Hi Nancy Hermano: Nancy you were right about the dates. I double checked. I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao** José de Frias*. Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824. Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849. I am so excited that I am not the only one looking back. I have no dates: born, died, married, etc. for Barbara Jose's parents and grandparents. *Jose de Frias* parents are: *Françisco de Frias **Anna Maria Rego *married* *1788March30, paternal: *Antonio de Frias **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do Rego * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. * *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges **Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: * * *Françisco Ignacio Rego* *Joaquina Rosa Maria*; maternal: *Geronimo do Rego* *Maria da Estrella*. Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira Maria de Lima? *Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte and Maria de Medeiros his parents* Their (Barbara Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849: Francisco, born 1825 *- *Nancy's ancestor*; 20 Sep 1825* Francisco, born; 27 sep 1827 Joaquim, born 1828*; 4 Aug 1828* Victor, born 1829 *?* Maria, born 1830 *(Maria Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)* Marianna 1832;* 6 Aug 1832)* *Maria, born 3 Jul 1833* *Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834* Manuel 1834 *?* Marianno 1835*; *I have a Mariana, born 14 Feb183 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name: *Manuel José Borges de Frias Bodé*; *17 Nov 1836* *Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 1839* Margarida 1840 *(Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840* Joao 1842 *(Joao Jose de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842* Antonia 1847*; 9 Feb 1847* Maria 1849*; 29 Dec 1849* ** *Jose de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to Margarida Jacinta Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and Joao, 1824.* If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break from looking back. The research is not easy. My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel. He passed away 13 years ago. He told me about his parents and grandparents. Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure. Your very distant cousin, Maria. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hi Hermano I double checked what I have: Jose de Frias = (father) Francisco de Frias = (grandparents) *Antonio de Frias Maria da Costa* Jose de Frias = (mother) Anna Maria = (grandparents) Manuel do Rego Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa Manuel Rego's parents =* Manuel ? Catharina do Rego* Maria de Jesus parents = *Joao PimentelJosefa de Frias* Maria. On Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:28:35 PM UTC-5, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and Nancy You are not going to stay incognita are you? :)) I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus Pimentel. I see that you have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. Could you please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the grandmothers name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do Rego) and the name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao Rodrigues Pimentel and Josefa de Frias. Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I have. What I don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add but confirm with an X. Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's maiden name. Your not so distant cousin. Hermano da Costa Pires -- Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:47:48 -0700 From: mcfa...@rogers.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel Hi Nancy Hermano: Nancy you were right about the dates. I double checked. I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao** José de Frias*. Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824. Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849. I am so excited that I am not the only one looking back. I have no dates: born, died, married, etc. for Barbara Jose's parents and grandparents. *Jose de Frias* parents are: *Françisco de Frias **Anna Maria Rego *married* *1788March30, paternal: *Antonio de Frias **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do Rego * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. * *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges **Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: * * *Françisco Ignacio Rego* *Joaquina Rosa Maria*; maternal: *Geronimo do Rego* *Maria da Estrella*. Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira Maria de Lima? *Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte and Maria de Medeiros his parents* Their (Barbara Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849: Francisco, born 1825 *- *Nancy's ancestor*; 20 Sep 1825* Francisco, born; 27 sep 1827 Joaquim, born 1828*; 4 Aug 1828* Victor, born 1829 *?* Maria, born 1830 *(Maria Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)* Marianna 1832;* 6 Aug 1832)* *Maria, born 3 Jul 1833* *Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834* Manuel 1834 *?* Marianno 1835*; *I have a Mariana, born 14 Feb183 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name: *Manuel José Borges de Frias Bodé*; *17 Nov 1836* *Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 1839* Margarida 1840 *(Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840* Joao 1842 *(Joao Jose de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842* Antonia 1847*; 9 Feb 1847* Maria 1849*; 29 Dec 1849* ** *Jose de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to Margarida Jacinta Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and Joao, 1824.* If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break from looking back. The research is not easy. My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel. He passed away 13 years ago. He told me about his parents and grandparents. Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure. Your very distant cousin, Maria. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz). Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.) Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau). Let me know if I can help. Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be). Would love to exchange information. If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano -- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel From: nvcou...@gmail.com
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hi Nancy Hermano: Nancy you were right about the dates. I double checked. I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao** José de Frias*. Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824. Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849. I am so excited that I am not the only one looking back. I have no dates: born, died, married, etc. for Barbara Jose's parents and grandparents. *Jose de Frias*parents are: *Françisco de Frias **Anna Maria Rego *married* *1788March30, paternal: *Antonio de Frias **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do Rego * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. * *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges **Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: * * *Françisco Ignacio Rego* *Joaquina Rosa Maria*; maternal: *Geronimo do Rego* *Maria da Estrella*. Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira Maria de Lima? Their (Barbara Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849: Francisco, born 1825 *- *Nancy's ancestor Joaquim, born 1828 Victor, born 1829 Maria, born 1830 Marianna 1832 Manuel 1834 Marianno 1835 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name: *Manuel José Borges de Frias Bodé* Margarida 1840 Joao 1842 Antonia 1847 Maria 1849 If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break from looking back. The research is not easy. My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel. He passed away 13 years ago. He told me about his parents and grandparents. Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure. Your very distant cousin, Maria. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz). Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.) Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau). Let me know if I can help. Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be). Would love to exchange information. If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano -- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel From: nvcou...@gmail.com javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Dear mcfariar, Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd great-grandmother. Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd great-grandfather. The only information I have for Barbara is that she was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have given birth in 1825. Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage. Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece or a cousin. I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree. I think it's likely that we are related in some way. Nancy On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa Maria Joaquina. Materna: Andre Rego Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years old?* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Thanks, Maria. I think that makes us third cousins once removed. I didn't have the names of Barbara's maternal grandparents or the names and dates of all the children, so you've given me starting points for a lot of additional research. I probably won't have time for any serious research until the middle of June, but if I turn up anything new about this family, I'll let you know. Thanks again, and best wishes, Nancy On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:47 AM, mcfar...@rogers.com wrote: Hi Nancy Hermano: Nancy you were right about the dates. I double checked. I am the 4th great, granddaughter of *Barbara Maria da Purificacao** José de Frias*. Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824. Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849. I am so excited that I am not the only one looking back. I have no dates: born, died, married, etc. for Barbara Jose's parents and grandparents. *Jose de Frias* parents are: *Françisco de Frias **Anna Maria Rego *married* *1788March30, paternal: *Antonio de Frias **Maria da Costa; *maternal: *Manuel do Rego * *Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. * *Barbara Maria da Purificacao*'s parents are *Joaquim José Borges **Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, *paternal: * * *Françisco Ignacio Rego* *Joaquina Rosa Maria*; maternal: *Geronimo do Rego* *Maria da Estrella*. Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira Maria de Lima? Their (Barbara Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849: Francisco, born 1825 *- *Nancy's ancestor Joaquim, born 1828 Victor, born 1829 Maria, born 1830 Marianna 1832 Manuel 1834 Marianno 1835 Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name: *Manuel José Borges de Frias Bodé* Margarida 1840 Joao 1842 Antonia 1847 Maria 1849 If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break from looking back. The research is not easy. My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel. He passed away 13 years ago. He told me about his parents and grandparents. Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure. Your very distant cousin, Maria. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz). Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.) Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau). Let me know if I can help. Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be). Would love to exchange information. If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano -- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel From: nvcou...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Dear mcfariar, Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd great-grandmother. Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd great-grandfather. The only information I have for Barbara is that she was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have given birth in 1825. Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage. Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece or a cousin. I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree. I think it's likely that we are related in some way. Nancy On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa Maria Joaquina. Materna: Andre Rego Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years old?* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to Azores+un...@** googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hello mcfariar - Maria :) and NancyYou are not going to stay incognita are you? :))I have for Jose's grand parents Manuel do Rego and Maria de Jesus Pimentel. I see that you have Manue do Rego and Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. Could you please confirm that and if possbile tell me where you got the grandmothers name. Just checked the wedding registry for Manuel (Manuel do Rego) and the name of his spouse is Maria de Pimentel daughter of Joao Rodrigues Pimentel and Josefa de Frias.Also in your post below I have added in green and old what I have. What I don't have I have marked with ? and what I haven nothing to add but confirm with an X.Nancy who are your da Cota Regos? That was my mother's maiden name.Your not so distant cousin.Hermano da Costa PiresDate: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:47:48 -0700 From: mcfar...@rogers.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel Hi Nancy Hermano: Nancy you were right about the dates. I double checked.I am the 4th great, granddaughter of Barbara Maria da Purificacao José de Frias. Barbara's birthday is January 29, 1806, and married Oct. 3, 1824. Barbara had 12 children between 1825 and 1849. I am so excited that I am not the only one looking back. I have no dates: born, died, married, etc. for Barbara Jose's parents and grandparents. Jose de Frias parents are: Françisco de Frias Anna Maria Rego married 1788March30, paternal: Antonio de Frias Maria da Costa; maternal: Manuel do Rego Anna Maria de Jesus Rosa. Barbara Maria da Purificacao's parents are Joaquim José Borges Antonia Jacinta Conceicao do Nascimento, paternal: Françisco Ignacio Rego Joaquina Rosa Maria; maternal: Geronimo do Rego Maria da Estrella. Who exactly is Mateus Oliveira Maria de Lima?Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima are the grandparents of Antonio de Frias via Manuel de Oliveira da ponte and Maria de Medeiros his parents Their (Barbara Jose) 12 children between 1825 and 1849: Francisco, born 1825 - Nancy's ancestor; 20 Sep 1825Francisco, born; 27 sep 1827Joaquim, born 1828; 4 Aug 1828Victor, born 1829 ?Maria, born 1830 (Maria Isabel ?); 3 Jul 1830)Marianna 1832; 6 Aug 1832)Maria, born 3 Jul 1833Senhorinha dos Anjos, born abt 1834Manuel 1834 ?Marianno 1835; I have a Mariana, born 14 Feb183Manuel 1836 - my ancestor - his full name: Manuel José Borges de Frias Bodé; 17 Nov 1836Victorino Jose Borges de Frias, born 6 Mar 1839Margarida 1840 (Margarida Isabel do Carmo); 3 Sep 1840Joao 1842 (Joao Jose de Frias Bode); 28 Jul 1842Antonia 1847; 9 Feb 1847Maria 1849; 29 Dec 1849 Jose de Frias (Jose de Frias Bode) had been previously married to Margarida Jacinta Carvalho o 31 Jul 1815 and they had: Antonio, 1816; Manuel, 1818; Ana, 1821 and Joao, 1824. If you do not hear from me any time soon that's because I am taking a break from looking back. The research is not easy.My father was born in Rosario, Lagoa, S.Miguel. He passed away 13 years ago. He told me about his parents and grandparents.Bodé?, we might be flemish, I am not sure. Your very distant cousin,Maria. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:43:11 PM UTC-6, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz). Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.) Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau). Let me know if I can help. Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be). Would love to exchange information. If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel From: nvcou...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Dear mcfariar, Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd great-grandmother. Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd great-grandfather. The only information I have for Barbara is that she was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have given birth in 1825. Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage. Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece or a cousin. I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree. I think it's likely that we are related in some way. Nancy On
[AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa Maria Joaquina. Materna: Andre Rego Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years old?* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Dear mcfariar, Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd great-grandmother. Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd great-grandfather. The only information I have for Barbara is that she was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have given birth in 1825. Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage. Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece or a cousin. I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree. I think it's likely that we are related in some way. Nancy On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa Maria Joaquina. Materna: Andre Rego Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years old?* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Hello Nancy and mcfariarNancy I think that you are absolutely right!Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also.Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz).Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.)Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau).Let me know if I can help.Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be).Would love to exchange information.If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy.Happy New Year and God Bless.Hermano Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel From: nvcouto...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Dear mcfariar, Barbara da Purificacao, who married Jose de Frias Bode, is my 3rd great-grandmother. Their son Francisco Joaquim, born 27 Sep 1825, is my 2nd great-grandfather. The only information I have for Barbara is that she was born in Santa Cruz, Lagoa. But she couldn't have been born in 1819 and have given birth in 1825. Barbara was Jose de Frias Bode's second wife, and 1824 sounds about the right time frame for their marriage. Is it possible that the record you found was for someone else, possibly a niece or a cousin. I also have da Costa and Rego in that branch of my family tree. I think it's likely that we are related in some way. Nancy On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for mcfariar at rogers.com Hi, I google my ancestor: Jose de Frias Bode and found you guys, well I have some information to share. I have been doing my own research and I found Barbara da Purificaçao birth certificate, which states: Barbara, daughter of Francisco da Costa from the church of S. Pedro of Ponta Delgada, and his wife Jacinta de Jesus from the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa. Paternal: Antonio da Costa Maria Joaquina. Materna: Andre Rego Anna Rego. Born: May 3, 1819 . Baptized May 23, 1819. Godfather: Jose Jacinto de Silva. Their son,* Manuel José Frias Bodé, continues to my side of the branch. Are you sure that they married in 1824, which would make Barbara 5 years old?* -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Frias Bode, Costa, Rego, early 1800s in Lagoa and Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel
Dear Hermano, Thank you so much for the information you sent. I have been trying without success to find Barbara's birth record and information about her parents. We were in touch before, and I think we established that we are third cousins. Give me a couple of days to get my information together, and I'll send you a copy so we can compare notes. Thanks again, and best wishes, Nancy On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello Nancy and mcfariar Nancy I think that you are absolutely right! Barbara and Jose are my 3rd G-G also. Barbara was born on 29 Jan 1806 and baptised 4 Feb 1806 in Santa Cruz. The Barbara refered to is certainly someone else because our Barbara's parents are: Joaquim Jose Borges (from S. Pedro Ponta Delgada) and Antonia do Nasimento (from Santa Cruz). Joaquin's parents were Francisco Ignacio (from S. Pedro, P. D.) and Joaquina Rosa (from S. Sebastiao, P. D.) Jose's parents were Francisco de Frias and Ana Maria do Rego (I have information for the to about 1716, Mateus de Oliveira and Maria de Lima, from Agua de Pau). Let me know if I can help. Nancy I believe that we were in touch before (mind is not as clear as it used to be). Would love to exchange information. If you prefer feel free to use my e-mail addy. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.