Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[MaryAnn Santos]

John,

That's a fascinating bit of personal history about speaking/learning
Portuguese. Thank you for sharing!

MaryAnn

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM, John Vasconcelos 
wrote:

> My experience with the Portuguese Language is not typical of most
> Potuguese-Americans. I was born on a farm (literally in the farmhouse) in
> the Central Valley of California, son of Azorean immigrants from the Island
> of Flores. My father had immigrated in 1908 and my mother in 1928 about 5
> years before I was born. Our everyday language was Portuguese so, in
> effect, Portuguese was my first language. My nearest playmate was a girl a
> few months older who lived about a quarter mile away whose father was
> Portuguese-American. I started picking up a little English with her but
> spoke little when I started school.
> By the time I finished high school, I spoke little Portuguese, My parents
> spoke to me in Portuguese, I replied in English or "Portuglish". Then, a
> family of cousins immigrated from Flores. For the first time in years I had
> to speak Portuguese and it re-ignited my interest in the Portuguese
> Language. including the acquired ability to read and write simple letters.
> Then after finishing grad school, I was offered a position in Brazil by an
> International Environmental Engineering firm. That was my introduction to
> Brazilian Portuguese. It was difficult at first but I eventually I got it
> aided by the fact that I met and married a "Brasileira".
> I now speak Portuguese with an undefined accent. When I am in Portugal,
> people ask what part of Brazil I'm from and when in Brazil, they may ask
> where I'm from. Early on,  a Brazilian friend identified my accent as being
> an "Island" accent.
> John Vasconcelos
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:45 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
>
>> In preparation for my first trip to Azores and Lisbon in 1994 I took a
>> semester of intensive elementary Brazilian Portuguese at NYU. I didn't
>> realize there would be a big difference between the languages of Brazil and
>> Portugal but there are.
>>
>> For one, the use of second person singular você but not tu is used in
>> Brazil whereas both are used in Portugal with specific rules about when to
>> use the familiar tu and when to use você. Also, pronunciation is very
>> different. For example the word for aunt - tia - is pronounced "chia" in
>> Brazil - not so in Portugal. On my first trip to Portugal everyone thought
>> I was Brazilian - I didn't know how to conjugate verbs using tu so I just
>> added an "ess" to the end of the verb for você. Instead of saying você
>> quere (do you want) I'd say tu queres (but only to someone I was very
>> familiar with) - it sometimes worked but irregular verbs in Portuguese are
>> a real challenge. I certainly made a lot of mistakes!
>>
>> Two years later I learned about a month-long culture and language summer
>> program for "estrangeiros" at the University of Lisbon. Here's the link.
>>
>> http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/clcp/verao/cursos.html
>>
>> It wasn't that expensive and I was able to get funding from Instituto
>> Camões. Here's the link.
>>
>> (www.instituto-camoes.pt/activity/o-que-fazemos/aprender-
>> portugues/bolsas-de-estudo)
>>
>> If you can spend a month in Lisbon in July I would highly recommend this
>> program.
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In
>>> Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce
>>> the leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[Kelly]

Wow John! Very interesting. I often wished my father learned from his
father so he could teach me Portuguese! Unfortunately his father passed
when he was only 12 yrs old.

On Sep 20, 2017 6:42 PM, "John Vasconcelos"  wrote:

My experience with the Portuguese Language is not typical of most
Potuguese-Americans. I was born on a farm (literally in the farmhouse) in
the Central Valley of California, son of Azorean immigrants from the Island
of Flores. My father had immigrated in 1908 and my mother in 1928 about 5
years before I was born. Our everyday language was Portuguese so, in
effect, Portuguese was my first language. My nearest playmate was a girl a
few months older who lived about a quarter mile away whose father was
Portuguese-American. I started picking up a little English with her but
spoke little when I started school.
By the time I finished high school, I spoke little Portuguese, My parents
spoke to me in Portuguese, I replied in English or "Portuglish". Then, a
family of cousins immigrated from Flores. For the first time in years I had
to speak Portuguese and it re-ignited my interest in the Portuguese
Language. including the acquired ability to read and write simple letters.
Then after finishing grad school, I was offered a position in Brazil by an
International Environmental Engineering firm. That was my introduction to
Brazilian Portuguese. It was difficult at first but I eventually I got it
aided by the fact that I met and married a "Brasileira".
I now speak Portuguese with an undefined accent. When I am in Portugal,
people ask what part of Brazil I'm from and when in Brazil, they may ask
where I'm from. Early on,  a Brazilian friend identified my accent as being
an "Island" accent.
John Vasconcelos


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:45 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> In preparation for my first trip to Azores and Lisbon in 1994 I took a
> semester of intensive elementary Brazilian Portuguese at NYU. I didn't
> realize there would be a big difference between the languages of Brazil and
> Portugal but there are.
>
> For one, the use of second person singular você but not tu is used in
> Brazil whereas both are used in Portugal with specific rules about when to
> use the familiar tu and when to use você. Also, pronunciation is very
> different. For example the word for aunt - tia - is pronounced "chia" in
> Brazil - not so in Portugal. On my first trip to Portugal everyone thought
> I was Brazilian - I didn't know how to conjugate verbs using tu so I just
> added an "ess" to the end of the verb for você. Instead of saying você
> quere (do you want) I'd say tu queres (but only to someone I was very
> familiar with) - it sometimes worked but irregular verbs in Portuguese are
> a real challenge. I certainly made a lot of mistakes!
>
> Two years later I learned about a month-long culture and language summer
> program for "estrangeiros" at the University of Lisbon. Here's the link.
>
> http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/clcp/verao/cursos.html
>
> It wasn't that expensive and I was able to get funding from Instituto
> Camões. Here's the link.
>
> (www.instituto-camoes.pt/activity/o-que-fazemos/aprender-
> portugues/bolsas-de-estudo)
>
> If you can spend a month in Lisbon in July I would highly recommend this
> program.
>
> MaryAnn
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In
>> Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce
>> the leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[John Vasconcelos]

My experience with the Portuguese Language is not typical of most
Potuguese-Americans. I was born on a farm (literally in the farmhouse) in
the Central Valley of California, son of Azorean immigrants from the Island
of Flores. My father had immigrated in 1908 and my mother in 1928 about 5
years before I was born. Our everyday language was Portuguese so, in
effect, Portuguese was my first language. My nearest playmate was a girl a
few months older who lived about a quarter mile away whose father was
Portuguese-American. I started picking up a little English with her but
spoke little when I started school.
By the time I finished high school, I spoke little Portuguese, My parents
spoke to me in Portuguese, I replied in English or "Portuglish". Then, a
family of cousins immigrated from Flores. For the first time in years I had
to speak Portuguese and it re-ignited my interest in the Portuguese
Language. including the acquired ability to read and write simple letters.
Then after finishing grad school, I was offered a position in Brazil by an
International Environmental Engineering firm. That was my introduction to
Brazilian Portuguese. It was difficult at first but I eventually I got it
aided by the fact that I met and married a "Brasileira".
I now speak Portuguese with an undefined accent. When I am in Portugal,
people ask what part of Brazil I'm from and when in Brazil, they may ask
where I'm from. Early on,  a Brazilian friend identified my accent as being
an "Island" accent.
John Vasconcelos


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:45 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> In preparation for my first trip to Azores and Lisbon in 1994 I took a
> semester of intensive elementary Brazilian Portuguese at NYU. I didn't
> realize there would be a big difference between the languages of Brazil and
> Portugal but there are.
>
> For one, the use of second person singular você but not tu is used in
> Brazil whereas both are used in Portugal with specific rules about when to
> use the familiar tu and when to use você. Also, pronunciation is very
> different. For example the word for aunt - tia - is pronounced "chia" in
> Brazil - not so in Portugal. On my first trip to Portugal everyone thought
> I was Brazilian - I didn't know how to conjugate verbs using tu so I just
> added an "ess" to the end of the verb for você. Instead of saying você
> quere (do you want) I'd say tu queres (but only to someone I was very
> familiar with) - it sometimes worked but irregular verbs in Portuguese are
> a real challenge. I certainly made a lot of mistakes!
>
> Two years later I learned about a month-long culture and language summer
> program for "estrangeiros" at the University of Lisbon. Here's the link.
>
> http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/clcp/verao/cursos.html
>
> It wasn't that expensive and I was able to get funding from Instituto
> Camões. Here's the link.
>
> (www.instituto-camoes.pt/activity/o-que-fazemos/
> aprender-portugues/bolsas-de-estudo)
>
> If you can spend a month in Lisbon in July I would highly recommend this
> program.
>
> MaryAnn
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In
>> Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce
>> the leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[E. Sharp]

I hate to say this...but I have been all over Portugal, 2 Azores islands and 
Brazil, Croatia and Italy, among others and spoke only English and somehow we 
understood each other everywhere. The only place we had a little problem was 
the small Croatian island in the Adriatic my family originally came from but a 
cousin from Sweden who was originally from the island accompanied us the week 
we were there.  I did take a few months of Portuguese from a really nice woman 
from the Azores and had a lot of fun.  I even cooked a Portuguese soup a recipe 
a friend shared with me to share with other classmates and learned to sing A 
Dias da Rosa. Such fun

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[carabela via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you everyone for your suggestions and information. My cousin is excited 
to get started trying to learn the language of our ancestors. I knew if I 
brought the question to the group I would get some good suggestions and I sure 
did! I love this group! Thanks for your help! Have a great day!
Sherry



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In preparation for my first trip to Azores and Lisbon in 1994 I took a semester 
of intensive elementary Brazilian Portuguese at NYU. I didn't realize there 
would be a big difference between the languages of Brazil and Portugal but 
there are.


For one, the use of second person singular você but not tu is used in Brazil 
whereas both are used in Portugal with specific rules about when to use the 
familiar tu and when to use você. Also, pronunciation is very different. For 
example the word for aunt - tia - is pronounced "chia" in Brazil - not so in 
Portugal. On my first trip to Portugal everyone thought I was Brazilian - I 
didn't know how to conjugate verbs using tu so I just added an "ess" to the end 
of the verb for você. Instead of saying você quere (do you want) I'd say tu 
queres (but only to someone I was very familiar with) - it sometimes worked but 
irregular verbs in Portuguese are a real challenge. I certainly made a lot of 
mistakes!


Two years later I learned about a month-long culture and language summer 
program for "estrangeiros" at the University of Lisbon. Here's the link.


http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/clcp/verao/cursos.html



It wasn't that expensive and I was able to get funding from Instituto Camões. 
Here's the link.


(www.instituto-camoes.pt/activity/o-que-fazemos/aprender-portugues/bolsas-de-estudo)



If you can spend a month in Lisbon in July I would highly recommend this 
program.


MaryAnn





On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In 
Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce the 
leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[MaryAnn Santos]

In preparation for my first trip to Azores and Lisbon in 1994 I took a
semester of intensive elementary Brazilian Portuguese at NYU. I didn't
realize there would be a big difference between the languages of Brazil and
Portugal but there are.

For one, the use of second person singular você but not tu is used in
Brazil whereas both are used in Portugal with specific rules about when to
use the familiar tu and when to use você. Also, pronunciation is very
different. For example the word for aunt - tia - is pronounced "chia" in
Brazil - not so in Portugal. On my first trip to Portugal everyone thought
I was Brazilian - I didn't know how to conjugate verbs using tu so I just
added an "ess" to the end of the verb for você. Instead of saying você
quere (do you want) I'd say tu queres (but only to someone I was very
familiar with) - it sometimes worked but irregular verbs in Portuguese are
a real challenge. I certainly made a lot of mistakes!

Two years later I learned about a month-long culture and language summer
program for "estrangeiros" at the University of Lisbon. Here's the link.

http://www.fcsh.unl.pt/clcp/verao/cursos.html

It wasn't that expensive and I was able to get funding from Instituto
Camões. Here's the link.

(
www.instituto-camoes.pt/activity/o-que-fazemos/aprender-portugues/bolsas-de-estudo
)

If you can spend a month in Lisbon in July I would highly recommend this
program.

MaryAnn


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> Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In
> Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce
> the leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

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Good morning is "Bom dia." In European Portuguese, it's "Bom dia." In
Brazilian, it's "Bom G-ah." You say "G" then "ah." That's how you pronounce
the leading "D" in Brazilian Portuguese. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[Kelly]

I did a search and found an app with the Portugal flag. Hopefully I can
reset. They seem similar.

On Sep 18, 2017 11:15 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Yep, the busuu.com home page shows the Brazilian flag, not the Portuguese
> flag. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

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Yep, the busuu.com home page shows the Brazilian flag, not the Portuguese
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[momma Goodwin]

I didn't realize there were different Portuguese dialects or what you call it. 
I've been using the Portuguese they offer on Busuu.com. Don't tell I've been 
learning the wrong Portuguese! Oy vey!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

You are welcome! One thing that is good about Maria is that you are definitely 
hearing an Azorean accent! 

Susan 

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 7:40 PM, 'Cheryl Barnhurst' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Susan! 
> Sherry 
> 
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>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have taken lessons from Maria Oliveira who is from Sao Jorge She has 
>> CDs you can order;
>> 
>> http://www.marialanguages.com
>> 
>> I'd highly recommend checking what she has to offer!
>> 
>> Susan Vargas Murphy 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean 
>>> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers 
>>> sound different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The 
>>> closest is European/Continental Portuguese.
>>> 
>>> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's 
>>> closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at 
>>> any time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've 
>>> been doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me 
>>> compared to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old 
>>> talk to maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over 
>>> analyze things. But I do see some progress in myself.
>>> 
>>> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both 
>>> and pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as 
>>> learners and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit 
>>> for you. Just try them out.
>>> Cheri
>>> 
 On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" 
  wrote:
 My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn 
 to speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" 
 , but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their 
 children the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of 
 words from doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. 
 See if anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other 
 than going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area 
 that speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for 
 any suggestions? Thanks so much!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

['Cheryl Barnhurst' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Susan! 
Sherry 

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have taken lessons from Maria Oliveira who is from Sao Jorge She has 
> CDs you can order;
> 
> http://www.marialanguages.com
> 
> I'd highly recommend checking what she has to offer!
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean 
>> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers sound 
>> different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The closest is 
>> European/Continental Portuguese.
>> 
>> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's 
>> closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at any 
>> time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've been 
>> doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me compared 
>> to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old talk to 
>> maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over analyze 
>> things. But I do see some progress in myself.
>> 
>> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both and 
>> pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as learners 
>> and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit for you. 
>> Just try them out.
>> Cheri
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn to 
>>> speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" , 
>>> but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their children 
>>> the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of words from 
>>> doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. See if 
>>> anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other than 
>>> going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area that 
>>> speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any 
>>> suggestions? Thanks so much!
>>> Sherry
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[Cheri Mello]

I used "Living Language Continental Portuguese" years ago (on cassette). I
seem to to do better with PracticePortuguese.com. I did learn from the
cassettes. I seemed to learn more from PracticePortuguese.com. BUT, that's
the way I learn (and yes, the Practice Portuguese guys hear from me). So
try them all and pick the one that "grabs" you. That is the one that will
fit your learning style and where you will learn the most. Cheri
On Sep 17, 2017 6:39 PM, "Liz Migliori"  wrote:

> I agree. Have used her cassettes years ago. Great workbooks and all
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I have taken lessons from Maria Oliveira who is from Sao Jorge She has
> CDs you can order;
>
> http://www.marialanguages.com
>
> I'd highly recommend checking what she has to offer!
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean
> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers
> sound different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The
> closest is European/Continental Portuguese.
>
> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com .
> It is continental/European. That's closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's
> $12 a month and you can cancel at any time. I do their Learning Studio.
> There's a variety of activities. I've been doing it 10 months. Rosemarie
> Capodicci noticed a difference in me compared to a year ago. Personally, I
> feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old talk to maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not
> fluent and I over think and over analyze things. But I do see some progress
> in myself.
>
> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both
> and pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as
> learners and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit
> for you. Just try them out.
> Cheri
> On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn
>> to speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies"
>> , but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their
>> children the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of
>> words from doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and.
>> See if anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other
>> than going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area
>> that speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any
>> suggestions? Thanks so much!
>> Sherry
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[Liz Migliori]

I agree. Have used her cassettes years ago. Great workbooks and all

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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:30 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have taken lessons from Maria Oliveira who is from Sao Jorge She has 
> CDs you can order;
> 
> http://www.marialanguages.com
> 
> I'd highly recommend checking what she has to offer!
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean 
>> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers sound 
>> different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The closest is 
>> European/Continental Portuguese.
>> 
>> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's 
>> closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at any 
>> time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've been 
>> doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me compared 
>> to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old talk to 
>> maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over analyze 
>> things. But I do see some progress in myself.
>> 
>> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both and 
>> pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as learners 
>> and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit for you. 
>> Just try them out.
>> Cheri
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn to 
>>> speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" , 
>>> but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their children 
>>> the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of words from 
>>> doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. See if 
>>> anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other than 
>>> going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area that 
>>> speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any 
>>> suggestions? Thanks so much!
>>> Sherry
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

I have taken lessons from Maria Oliveira who is from Sao Jorge She has CDs 
you can order;

http://www.marialanguages.com

I'd highly recommend checking what she has to offer!

Susan Vargas Murphy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean 
> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers sound 
> different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The closest is 
> European/Continental Portuguese.
> 
> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's 
> closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at any 
> time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've been 
> doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me compared 
> to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old talk to 
> maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over analyze 
> things. But I do see some progress in myself.
> 
> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both and 
> pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as learners 
> and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit for you. Just 
> try them out.
> Cheri
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" 
>>  wrote:
>> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn to 
>> speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" , 
>> but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their children 
>> the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of words from 
>> doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. See if 
>> anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other than 
>> going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area that 
>> speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any 
>> suggestions? Thanks so much!
>> Sherry
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

['Cheryl Barnhurst' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Cheri! I knew posting to the group was a good idea! Thanks so much! 
I'll pass you suggestion along to my cousin. You are always such a great help! 
Take care,
Sherry


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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean 
> Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers sound 
> different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The closest is 
> European/Continental Portuguese.
> 
> I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's 
> closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at any 
> time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've been 
> doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me compared 
> to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old talk to 
> maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over analyze 
> things. But I do see some progress in myself.
> 
> Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both and 
> pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as learners 
> and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit for you. Just 
> try them out.
> Cheri
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" 
>>  wrote:
>> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn to 
>> speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" , 
>> but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their children 
>> the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of words from 
>> doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. See if 
>> anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other than 
>> going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area that 
>> speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any 
>> suggestions? Thanks so much!
>> Sherry
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

[Cheri Mello]

You want Continental or European Portuguese. I would say that Azorean
Portuguese has some type of accent. Kinda like in America, New Yorkers
sound different than New England, the deep south, the Midwest, etc. The
closest is European/Continental Portuguese.

I signed up for PracticePortuguese.com. It is continental/European. That's
closer to Azorean than Brazilian. It's $12 a month and you can cancel at
any time. I do their Learning Studio. There's a variety of activities. I've
been doing it 10 months. Rosemarie Capodicci noticed a difference in me
compared to a year ago. Personally, I feel like I've gone from a 2 yr old
talk to maybe a 3 or 4 yr old. I'm not fluent and I over think and over
analyze things. But I do see some progress in myself.

Sam Koester uses something different. She'll chime in here. I'd try both
and pick the one that fits your learning style. We are all different as
learners and students, so what makes sense to me may not be the best fit
for you. Just try them out.
Cheri
On Sep 17, 2017 4:37 PM, "'Sherry' via Azores Genealogy" <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn
> to speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies"
> , but it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their
> children the language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of
> words from doing research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and.
> See if anyone I knew could tell us how she could learn the language other
> than going to live in the Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area
> that speaks the language. I thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any
> suggestions? Thanks so much!
> Sherry
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Learning to speak Portuguese

['Sherry' via Azores Genealogy]

My cousin contacted me yesterday, asking if I knew away for her to learn to 
speak Portuguese (Azores version). She found a "Portuguese for Dummies" , but 
it is the Brazilian Portuguese. Her parents never taught their children the 
language, just like my Mom. I've learned to read a lot of words from doing 
research but I can't speak it. She asked me to check and. See if anyone I knew 
could tell us how she could learn the language other than going to live in the 
Azores. She doesn't know of anyone in her area that speaks the language. I 
thought I'd ask this very helpful group for any suggestions? Thanks so much!
Sherry

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