RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2015-12-17 Thread E. Sharp
Andrew,

 

I have contacted you off list about this family.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2015-12-17 Thread Andrew Jones


"E", are you still active on this group?   

 

I'm also doing research on my family, and I am certain that you are 
discussing my great grandparents.   Manuel Duarte Mello (d. April 12, 19XX) 
was married to Francisca Costa Mello.  Francisca had a sister "Mary 
Resendes", which would corroborate the info you have.   I actually have old 
photographs of Manuel/Francisca and children, and another of Francisca & 
Mary that were given to me by my grandmother to her death.   According to 
my grandmother, Manuel and Francisca hailed from Salga, Sao Miguel. 
 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Elaine Sharp
I want to thank everyone for their help on this.  With your input, I managed
to fill in quite a few blanks and find the exact date of death for Manuel
Duarte Mello, Sr. on Ancestry using the NB directories.  I managed to find
the death of Francisca within a 2 year span and have ordered their obits
from the New Bedford Library and also requested a couple of the children's
birth records.  If this does not give me an exact place in Sao Miguel, I
will then try to get their marriage application from NB Vitals.  Still
scratching my head as to why they changed their surname from Duarte to Mello
ca 1920?

 

Thank you all so much for your help and I will keep you posted.

 

"E"


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread "E" Sharp

Not sure if I hit send on my previous reply.  Thank you, Judi, for the
birthdates and ship info.  I shall check out the Vega on Ancestry but
it seems he used the Duarte name until ca 1920 then changed it to
Mello?  Where do they come up with these interchangeable surnames?
Drives me crazy.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Judi Phillips

Hi "E",

I found a record on Ancestry for Manuel de Mello arriving in Boston on SS Vega 
3/12/92, age 21.  No way of knowing if this is him because there is no village, 
only Sao Miguel, and no parents or friends listed.  Says destination is New 
Bedford.  There isn't much for him on Ancestry, only a lot of census, but a lot 
with the same name.

I found a birth record for George Duarte in NB for June 12, 1905, and Marie 
Duarte born in Fairhaven Mar 2, 1910. These are from NEGHS.  Both list Manuel 
Duarte and Francisca Victoria as parents.

Ginny was correct, I picked up the recording date for their marriage instead of 
the actual date of Feb. 3, 1894.  Sorry about that.  Good thing I'm not the 
only one looking.

Keep the faith.  I've been looking for 2 years for my grandparents immigration 
records.  Some day I'll get lucky.

 

Judi

 
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> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS 
> help
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:01:15 -0800
> 
> 
> Need to learn the keyboardit should be NOW instead of
> not.duh
> 
> "I will not (NOW) try and find ship's manifest under Manuel Duarte and
> Francisco Victoria but so far I have had no luck on Ancestry."
> 
> Thanks, "E"
> 
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Elaine Sharp

Need to learn the keyboardit should be NOW instead of
not.duh

"I will not (NOW) try and find ship's manifest under Manuel Duarte and
Francisco Victoria but so far I have had no luck on Ancestry."

Thanks, "E"


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread "E" Sharp

Thank you, Ginger.  Since I know this Father Neves was at St. John's
Church in New Bedford, I shall write them for a copy of their marriage
record. Now I have this family one more generation back.  Anyone on
the list have them listed in any of their genealogy records from Sao
Miguel?

1.  Jose Duarte/Maria Jacintha (do you think her father was a DeMello
since her son used this name?)
   2.  Manuel Duarte de Mello b. abt. 1872-1874/Francisca Victoria b.
abt. 1864-1877

I will not try and find ship's manifest under Manuel Duarte and
Francisco Victoria but so far I have had no luck on Ancestry.

Thanks, "E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Ginger

P.S.

No offense Judi, but the date the marriage was recorded is 5 Feb
1894.   The marriage actually took place on 3 Feb 1894.   I didn't
want Elaine to have any confusion regarding the date.

Ginger

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread "E" Sharp

Judi and Nancy and Elly,

Thank you for the lookups.  Judi, looks like you have found their
marriage record as their first child of record was born in 1896- in
1900 census, they had 3 children born and 2 living so it is possible a
first child was born before 1896.  Thank you so much.  Did you find
this on Ancestry?  Did it happen to list where they were living?   I
know my own grandfather lived in NB married in Fall River.  I still
haven't figured out why.  Does anyone else have an answer to this?

Here are the rest of the children, born before 1910, (I think this is
what NEHGS goes to) from census record info:

George Mello b. abt. 1905
Adelina (Lola) Mello b. abt. 1908
Marie Mello b. 1909

In 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 censuses, the family of Manuel Duarte
deMello always lived in Fairhaven.  In the 1900 and 1910 census, he
used the surname Duarte, 1920 they started using Mello. Manuel Sr.
must have died between the 1920/1930 censuses as in 1930, his wife,
Francesca Mello is listed as a widow.  I am surprised the sons Manuel
Duarte Mello Jr. b. 7/20/1898 and Antone b. Jun 9, 1896 are not listed
but I know in those days some births were not recorded or recorded 2
or 3 years later.

Thank you, too, Elly.  NEHGS is a New England Genealogy subscription
program which lists birth, death, marriages to 1910, I believe they
are in the process of updating it to 1915.

Again, thank you all so much for your help on this.

"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Ginger

Hi Elaine,

I hope this helps.

I found a Marriage for Manuel Duarte and Francisca Victoria, 3 Feb
1894, in New Bedford.

They were both residents of New Bedford and were married by A. G.
Neves, Priest.

They were both from St. Michael, Azores.

His parents names were listed as, Jose Duarte and Maria Jacintha.

Her parents names were listed as, Jose da Costa and Victoria Amaral.

None of the others I found were even close to this.  I had no luck at
all using de Mello or Mello.

Ginger

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Judi Phillips

"E"

I looked further into the Fall River marriage I sent you.  I don't think that 
one is correct.

I found a marriage on Feb 5 1894 for Manuel Duarte and Francisca Victoria, both 
age 20, in New Bedford. A lot of times they didn't use their last names on 
these records.

Parents: Jose Duarte and Maria Jacintha, and Jose da Costa and Victoria de 
Amaral.  Place of birth St. Michaels, no village.  No luck with children under 
Duarte, but  I'll keep looking.

Judi
 
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:14:59 -0800
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help
> From: bellema...@gmail.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> I am researching Manuel Duarte De Mello b. abt. 1872 Sao Miguel. His
> wife is listed as Francisca Vittoria(sp?) b. abt. 1877 Sao Miguel. I
> believe they married in the US and would appreciate if someone who has
> NEHGS could look up a marriage ca 1893. Their first son Antone Mello
> was born June 9, 1896, Manuel Duarte Mello, Jr. b. July 20, 1898, Gill
> Mello b. abt. 1904. They were all born in Fairhaven/New Bedford area.
> I would like a lookup of their birth records to see how parents names
> are listed and birthplace of parents - they did have several other
> children whose names I have (trying not to be too greedy). I am
> trying to find out exactly where in Sao Miguel they came from. The
> parents are listed as coming to US 1891 but I cannot find the ship
> they came over on. Manuel Sr. also went by Manuel Duarte. I found
> the WWI Draft Regis. for Manuel Duarte Mello Jr. but the one who I
> think is the father has the wrong birthdate and address. I have found
> them on all census records. I believe Francisca had a sister Maria
> Vittoria who married an Antone Resendes(sp?) and it looks like they
> had no children.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> "E"
> 
> > 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread Judi Phillips

Hi E,

I found a marriage in Fall River for Manuel de Mello and Francisca Tavares Aug 
12, 1894, he age 22, she age 19.  His parents were Jose and Helena Mello, her's 
Manuel & Francisca C. Frazaeo(?).  They were from Sao Miguel.  I also found a 
birth for Manuel in New Bedford 1898, but the film can not be read.  I have a 
Jose Correa de Mello and Helena Chaves de Mello in my tree.  My Helena was born 
1858 in either Capelas or Santo Antonio.  If they are the same, I have a lot of 
info on Helena's side.  Haven't looked up Jose's yet.  

I can look up the rest of the children if you want.  Let me know.

 

 

Judi

 

> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:14:59 -0800
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help
> From: bellema...@gmail.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> I am researching Manuel Duarte De Mello b. abt. 1872 Sao Miguel. His
> wife is listed as Francisca Vittoria(sp?) b. abt. 1877 Sao Miguel. I
> believe they married in the US and would appreciate if someone who has
> NEHGS could look up a marriage ca 1893. Their first son Antone Mello
> was born June 9, 1896, Manuel Duarte Mello, Jr. b. July 20, 1898, Gill
> Mello b. abt. 1904. They were all born in Fairhaven/New Bedford area.
> I would like a lookup of their birth records to see how parents names
> are listed and birthplace of parents - they did have several other
> children whose names I have (trying not to be too greedy). I am
> trying to find out exactly where in Sao Miguel they came from. The
> parents are listed as coming to US 1891 but I cannot find the ship
> they came over on. Manuel Sr. also went by Manuel Duarte. I found
> the WWI Draft Regis. for Manuel Duarte Mello Jr. but the one who I
> think is the father has the wrong birthdate and address. I have found
> them on all census records. I believe Francisca had a sister Maria
> Vittoria who married an Antone Resendes(sp?) and it looks like they
> had no children.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> "E"
> 
> > 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help

2009-02-19 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Greetings "E",

I was unable to see any of this family in NEGHS...There are alot of Manuel 
Mellos and some Antone Mellosnone with the right dates or mothers 
names.4 Manuels born in 1898 but not the right parents..you mention 
other childrens namesI'd be glad to look for them.

Nancy
 
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:14:59 -0800
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Duarte DeMello - Fairhaven MA - NEHGS help
> From: bellema...@gmail.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> I am researching Manuel Duarte De Mello b. abt. 1872 Sao Miguel. His
> wife is listed as Francisca Vittoria(sp?) b. abt. 1877 Sao Miguel. I
> believe they married in the US and would appreciate if someone who has
> NEHGS could look up a marriage ca 1893. Their first son Antone Mello
> was born June 9, 1896, Manuel Duarte Mello, Jr. b. July 20, 1898, Gill
> Mello b. abt. 1904. They were all born in Fairhaven/New Bedford area.
> I would like a lookup of their birth records to see how parents names
> are listed and birthplace of parents - they did have several other
> children whose names I have (trying not to be too greedy). I am
> trying to find out exactly where in Sao Miguel they came from. The
> parents are listed as coming to US 1891 but I cannot find the ship
> they came over on. Manuel Sr. also went by Manuel Duarte. I found
> the WWI Draft Regis. for Manuel Duarte Mello Jr. but the one who I
> think is the father has the wrong birthdate and address. I have found
> them on all census records. I believe Francisca had a sister Maria
> Vittoria who married an Antone Resendes(sp?) and it looks like they
> had no children.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> "E"
> 
> > 

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