Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1643-1667_item1/P21.html

I think this is birth record of Maria de Benavides.

Ubirajara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

Thanks a lot, Margaret!

Ubirajara Jales de Lira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

Thanks a lot, JR.

Ubirajara Jales de Lira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[Margaret Vicente]

For all its worth I've taken a look at the first marriage record and
confirm this couple (Manuel de Oliveira and Maria de Benevides to be
getting married for the first time. For some reason the Priest Joao
Ferreira omitted listing the parents on all entries on this page.

One other important point to note is that the priest does not state either
one to be a widow or widower. To verify this to be true have a look at the
top left hand side page.  It reads Manuel Goncalves (VIUVO) with Barbara
Carvalha (VIUVA); widower/widow.

Unfortunately the one way where you might be able to trace the parents,
brother or sister is through their children's baptisms in the hopes that
the priest will name them as such on the respective records.

Margaret


On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:20 PM, JR  wrote:

> Mel Vieira filho de Joao Glz e sua mulher Lusia Vra. com Ma. de Benevides
> filha de de Amaro Tarouca e de Ursula (sic Ursua) Furtada todos moradores
> nesta dita freguesia de SP
>
> It may be them, but maybe you should look for obito of Joao Gonsalves just
> before the second marriage of Maria Benevides, usually 1-3 months after
> death of first spouse.
>
> JR
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 3:32:58 PM UTC-4, Ubirajara Jales de Lira
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P83.html
>>
>> Thanks, JR!
>>
>> I think this is the first marriage. The first record from down to up, on
>> the left side. Does anybody can tell me the parents names?
>>
>> Ubirajara Jales de Lira
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[JR]

Mel Vieira filho de Joao Glz e sua mulher Lusia Vra. com Ma. de Benevides 
filha de de Amaro Tarouca e de Ursula (sic Ursua) Furtada todos moradores 
nesta dita freguesia de SP

It may be them, but maybe you should look for obito of Joao Gonsalves just 
before the second marriage of Maria Benevides, usually 1-3 months after 
death of first spouse.

JR

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 3:32:58 PM UTC-4, Ubirajara Jales de Lira wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P83.html
>  
>
> Thanks, JR! 
>
> I think this is the first marriage. The first record from down to up, on 
> the left side. Does anybody can tell me the parents names? 
>
> Ubirajara Jales de Lira 
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P83.html

Thanks, JR!

I think this is the first marriage. The first record from down to up, on the 
left side. Does anybody can tell me the parents names?

Ubirajara Jales de Lira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names???

[JR]

No parents. My experience is if there are no parents in the record it's 
because:

1) priest made error and left out names;
2) they are widow/s
3) it is period in which parents not listed, usually pre-1650 period or 
earlier.

In this case looks like they are widows. It is not absolutely certain, but 
very probable.

JR

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 12:08:45 PM UTC-4, Ubirajara Jales de Lira 
wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717_item1/P22.html
>  
>
> Hi guys! 
>
> Me and others 3 genetic cousins (mtFullSequence) are searching our common 
> ancestors. I think I found marriage record of the ancestors of one of them. 
> It's the second record from down to up, on the right side. It looks like 
> the priest didn't write their parents names. Does anybody get see parents 
> names? Marriage record of Manoel de Oliveira and Maria de Benavides. 
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>
> Ubirajara Jales de Lira 
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: parents names

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Also meant to ask if her name becomes Rosa Maria?

I do hope this is attached to the one question Rosa Nov 19, 1738

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1723-1745/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1723-1745_item1/P187.html
>
> Hi
> Middle right side Rosa, daughter of Antonio da Rosa and ??? (I don't see a
> mothers name)  Nov 19, 1738
> Does it show the last name of Santa anywhere?
>
> Liz
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: parents names

[bsei2816]

Below is what I see, which does not include the name Santa.

Roza, born 19 Nov 1738.

Father: Antonio da Roza, natural of this parish of Santa Barbara
Mother: Maria Pereira (P.ra) natural of Santissima Trinidade parish of 
Capelo

Baptized on 24 Nov 1738, 

Godparents: Captain Joao Silveira married to Izabel da Roza; and Anna 
Pereira? (P.ra?) daughter of Francisco Fernandes (Frz) and Maria Pereira 
(P.ra)

All are natives of this parish (Santa Barbara) except Anna Pereira and her 
parents who are native of Santissima Trinidae, Capelo.

Witness: Antonio Pereira, son of Joao Pereira and Barbara Pereira, 
parishioners of this parish of Santa Barbara.

Bill

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents names

[JR]

Feb 6- 1823, Mae de Deus, Povoacao, casou-Francisco de Mello, filho de 
Matias Furtado e Joanna de Medeiros, com Quiteria Maria filha de Antonio 
Borges e Maria Vieira naturaes e fraguesia desta igreja; witnesses are 
Antonio Lopes and Jose Vieira

JR

On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:19:50 AM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>
> The link below is the casamentos record for my 4th great grandparents 
> Francisco de Mello & Quiteria Maria de Jesus.What I need assistance with 
> are the parents names. Here is what I see: Francisco de Mello filho Matias 
>  (at first I thought is was Duarte) & Joanna de Medeiros; Quiteria 
> Maria filha Antonio Borges & Maria Vieira
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1822-1840_item1/P6.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul G.
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents Names??

[kgarry]

Hello,

Thank you for your replies.  Joao Borges baptism record is located at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1890-1900/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1890-1900_item1/P172.html
  
and Evangelina's baptism record is located at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1890-1900/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1890-1900_item1/P189.html
 in 
the bottom right and continues onto the next page.

Thanks
Krystal

On Friday, January 3, 2014 10:27:08 PM UTC-5, kgarry wrote:

 Hello,

 I am looking at a Baptism record from 1895 for Evangelina Moniz Pacheco 
 from Furnas and it looks like there are names other than her parents name 
 on the record. Do you know if her grandparents (specifically on her mothers 
 side) would also be listed on the record??

 Thanks
 Krystal


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Parents Names??

[Cheri Mello]

Krystal,

Your original question asked about the maternal grandparents of
Evangelina.  It is on the 2nd page of the link you provided and is on line
11: http://goo.gl/ybTyw2

Manuel de __ Pereira and Angelica de Jesus (de Jesus is on line 12).
Hopefully someone can read that other name.  I'm not at home and don't have
my reading glasses with me, so this is the best I can do at the moment.

Don't know what you can read and not read from Joao Borges, so I don't know
what to tell you on that one.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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