Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on differences in format on records CCA

2014-07-03 Thread João Ventura
Hello all,

Just a word of caution here. Formally, the use of Dom/Dona is indeed a 
royal prvilege, a bit like the English Sir.  However, somewhere in the 
19th century it became costumary to call every woman a Dona, after they 
became older (respect for elders, yada yada...).

So just because you see a Dona being used, that doesn't mean much outside 
the context of the time. A Dona in the early 1700s would certainly be of 
noble blood. But not in the late 1800s.

João Ventura
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On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:26:21 UTC+2, apor...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Isabella;  Thank you for your response and explanations to my 
 questions.  Apparently, I have some female ancestors who were highly 
 respected….  

 I did not know there were strict rules set forth for the structure of the 
 baptism records.  As you say, the priest must have simply forgot to enter 
 the surname of the father in some instances.  Odd.

 I understand the use of “devotional” names, I just thought it odd that a 
 few of the mothers and/or godmothers would have their surnames listed and 
 others would not.

 I guess this priest was simply erratic in his recordings of baptisms.

 Thank you for your insights and explanations, Sam in NC

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on differences in format on records CCA

2014-07-03 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Joao;  Thanks for this insight.  I’ll have to check the ages of the women being 
referred to as “Dona”.  I think one of them is consistently referred to in that 
manner in the various documents I’ve found her in.  Will have to look again.  
Again, thanks, Sam in SC






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on differences in format on records CCA

2014-07-03 Thread Isabella Baltar
Sure João, if you carefully read my post, I mentioned until XVIII
century.

Isabella Baltar
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On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:20 AM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 Just a word of caution here. Formally, the use of Dom/Dona is indeed a
 royal prvilege, a bit like the English Sir.  However, somewhere in the
 19th century it became costumary to call every woman a Dona, after they
 became older (respect for elders, yada yada...).

 So just because you see a Dona being used, that doesn't mean much
 outside the context of the time. A Dona in the early 1700s would
 certainly be of noble blood. But not in the late 1800s.

 João Ventura
 http://tombo.pt/en

 On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 23:26:21 UTC+2, apor...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Isabella;  Thank you for your response and explanations to my
 questions.  Apparently, I have some female ancestors who were highly
 respected….

 I did not know there were strict rules set forth for the structure of the
 baptism records.  As you say, the priest must have simply forgot to enter
 the surname of the father in some instances.  Odd.

 I understand the use of “devotional” names, I just thought it odd that a
 few of the mothers and/or godmothers would have their surnames listed and
 others would not.

 I guess this priest was simply erratic in his recordings of baptisms.

 Thank you for your insights and explanations, Sam in NC

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PORTUGAL AND AZORES:

TERCEIRA: Ferreira Drummond, Valadão, Velho, Jacques, Vieira

*SPAIN: *Casasola Palermo, Peres Dias, Zurita Vilche, Jimenez Peres
BRAZIL:

PARAÍBA / PERNAMBUCO: Balthar/Rego Barros/Teixeira de Vasconcellos/Xavier
Monteiro da Franca

CEARÁ: Barretto/Paschoa Loreto/Mello/Cavalcante

RIO DE JANEIRO:  Casasola Perez, Zurita Vilche

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on differences in format on records CCA

2014-07-02 Thread aportugee via Azores Genealogy
Isabella;  Thank you for your response and explanations to my questions.  
Apparently, I have some female ancestors who were highly respected….  


I did not know there were strict rules set forth for the structure of the 
baptism records.  As you say, the priest must have simply forgot to enter the 
surname of the father in some instances.  Odd.


I understand the use of “devotional” names, I just thought it odd that a few of 
the mothers and/or godmothers would have their surnames listed and others would 
not.


I guess this priest was simply erratic in his recordings of baptisms.


Thank you for your insights and explanations, Sam in NC






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