Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships sailing between islands and mainland

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Leonor,

The ship manifests that exist are the Passaportes that are housed on the
CCA. Use Tombo.pt to access them: https://tombo.pt/d/acores

I'm not sure people had to register if they were sailing from a Portuguese
area to another though.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


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> Hello,
> I know that my father sailed to the mainland at least once to visit his
> family. Are there any ship manifests for ships sailing between São Miguel
> and the mainland?
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships sailing between islands and mainland

[Leonor Bertoni]

Hello,
I know that my father sailed to the mainland at least once to visit his 
family. Are there any ship manifests for ships sailing between São Miguel 
and the mainland?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[bsei2816]

Cheri and Eric:

I am aware of the 1883-1894 gap, which of course includes the year I am 
most interested in (1889).  Which is why I was surprised to see one of 
Eric's attachments labeled "PD passports 1888x.jpg".  1888 is also in that 
gap.

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> Bill S,
> Sao Miguel has a lot of gaps. What's interesting though are the years you 
> mention contain part of the mass migration to Hawaii. In the 1980s, when 
> Bob De Mello had that Hawaii book made (extraction of HI bound passengers), 
> someone had access to those passaportes. I wonder if they were ever 
> returned. Sad.
> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[Cheri Mello]

Yep, and I mostly search the year between 1883-1913 for some reason.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> Cheri,
>
> It looks like they only followed the format for Ponta Delgada passports
> from
> 1875-1883 .
> Nothing but destination country until 1913, when they started listing city
> destination as well.
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Maybe it depends on the time period.  This one doesn't have the name of
>> the ship at all, and it's the Peninsular, as I have it coming in on the
>> American end:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P74.html
>>
>> I know I've looked up a few Sao Miguel people.  Maybe I have bad luck or
>> they are all in the time period where Sao Miguel didn't list the ship.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[luiznoia .]

Cheri,

It looks like they only followed the format for Ponta Delgada passports from
1875-1883 .
Nothing but destination country until 1913, when they started listing city
destination as well.


Eric




On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Maybe it depends on the time period.  This one doesn't have the name of
> the ship at all, and it's the Peninsular, as I have it coming in on the
> American end:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P74.html
>
> I know I've looked up a few Sao Miguel people.  Maybe I have bad luck or
> they are all in the time period where Sao Miguel didn't list the ship.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[Cheri Mello]

Bill S,
Sao Miguel has a lot of gaps. What's interesting though are the years you
mention contain part of the mass migration to Hawaii. In the 1980s, when
Bob De Mello had that Hawaii book made (extraction of HI bound passengers),
someone had access to those passaportes. I wonder if they were ever
returned. Sad.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

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Eric,

Is that really a PD passport log from 1888?  I really want to see 1889 but 
the CCA index is missing between 1883 and 1894.

Bill Seidler 

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:31:58 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote:

> On the Ponta Delgada passport lists at the right there is usually a 
> heading 
>
> *Embarcacao-* meaning the Vessel
>
> under it is 
>
> *Qualidade*- what type of ship,  * Vapo*r-steamship
>
> *Nome*- name of ship
>
> *Nagao*. abbreviation, navegação- to what country the ship belongs
>
>
> On the 1880 passport you'll see the ship names *Luna* and  *Acor*. 
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:07 AM, > 
> wrote:
>
>> what did a passport look like in those days?
>>
>> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:48:54 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Passaportes leaving Sao Miguel don't have the ship name.  Or not for all 
>>> time periods.  They seem not to have it for the time periods I search!
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[Cheri Mello]

Eric,

Maybe it depends on the time period.  This one doesn't have the name of the
ship at all, and it's the Peninsular, as I have it coming in on the
American end:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P74.html

I know I've looked up a few Sao Miguel people.  Maybe I have bad luck or
they are all in the time period where Sao Miguel didn't list the ship.




Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[luiznoia .]

On the Horta passports it usually simply lists;

Nome de Navio - name of ship


Eric Edgar

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:45 AM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> On the Ponta Delgada passport lists at the right there is usually a
> heading
>
> *Embarcacao-* meaning the Vessel
>
> under it is
>
> *Qualidade*- what type of ship,  * Vapo*r-steamship
>
> *Nome*- name of ship
>
> *Nagao*. abbreviation, navegação- to what country the ship belongs
>
>
> On the 1880 passport you'll see the ship names *Luna* and  *Acor*.
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:07 AM,  wrote:
>
>> what did a passport look like in those days?
>>
>> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:48:54 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Passaportes leaving Sao Miguel don't have the ship name.  Or not for all
>>> time periods.  They seem not to have it for the time periods I search!
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

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what did a passport look like in those days?

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:48:54 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Passaportes leaving Sao Miguel don't have the ship name.  Or not for all 
> time periods.  They seem not to have it for the time periods I search!
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

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Passaportes leaving Sao Miguel don't have the ship name.  Or not for all
time periods.  They seem not to have it for the time periods I search!

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

[luiznoia .]

Doug Holmes has the great Portuguese Passenger Ship Master List
 http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html 

There re some links to transcribed lists.

The CCA passports pages have the shiplist names at the right side of the
second page. This is a great resource for checking against a shiplist

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx

It is not searchable, but like a calander, each page in order, sections
broken down by years.



Eric Edgar


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> Not wanting to sound cheap or a free loader :-)
> Are there any sites that has free ship lists that you can see the list of
> passengers?
> I had Ancestry and they had it but then they changed and I told them to
> take a hike.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships lists

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Not wanting to sound cheap or a free loader :-)
Are there any sites that has free ship lists that you can see the list of 
passengers?
I had Ancestry and they had it but then they changed and I told them to 
take a hike.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

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Thanks! I found some possiblities
~Barbara
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  Barbara,

   

  Go here and look.  There are over 1000 entries for the ship Azor.  

   

  
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bostonpl&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_db&_F0005959=Azor&dbOnly=_F0005959%7C_F0005959_x&uidh=612

   

  “E”

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

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Eric,

I did check the passports and found this one: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 . He is the last one on the list. 

~Barbara
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  Barbara, 

  The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the passports 
from that end for him.

  Eric Edgar


  On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
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  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it 
is though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[E. Sharp]

Barbara,

 

Go here and look.  There are over 1000 entries for the ship Azor.  

 

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bostonpl 

 
&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_db&_F0005959=Azor&dbOnly=_F0005959%7C_F0005959_x&uidh=612

 

“E”

Barbara.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I was looking for Antonio Victorino and his brother Joseph (or Vitorino Jose)

Where did you find it on Ancestry.com? I have had no luck finding the Ship Azor 
(or Asor or Acor)

~Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: "E" Sharp 
  To: azores 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  I found the ship Azor on Ancestry with passengers listed.  What is the name 
you are looking for?


  "E"


  On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

Barbara, 

The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the 
passports from that end for him.

Eric Edgar


On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

  Cheri,

  Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

  ~Barbara  
- Original Message - 
From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
    Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


Barbara,

In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good 
it is though.
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

["E" Sharp]

I found the ship Azor on Ancestry with passengers listed.  What is the name
you are looking for?

"E"

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> Barbara,
>
> The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the
> passports from that end for him.
>
> Eric Edgar
>  On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg" 
> wrote:
>
>>  Cheri,
>>
>> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
>> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
>> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
>> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
>> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
>> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
>> keep researching.
>>
>> ~Barbara
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> *From:* Cheri Mello 
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>>
>>   Barbara,
>>
>> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
>> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
>> 1890-1954).
>>
>> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
>> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
>> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
>> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
>> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
>> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
>> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
>> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
>> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
>> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
>> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
>> library to check for the details on these ports.
>>
>> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
>> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
>> is though.
>> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>>
>> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
>> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
>> has a subscription.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[luiznoia .]

Barbara,

The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the
passports from that end for him.

Eric Edgar
 On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg" 
wrote:

>  Cheri,
>
> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
> keep researching.
>
> ~Barbara
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>
>   Barbara,
>
> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1890-1954).
>
> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
> library to check for the details on these ports.
>
> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
> is though.
> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>
> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
> has a subscription.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

["E" Sharp]

Have you tried this website:  He might have come on a whaler but it did not
find a ship Asor but maybe you can search by his name.

http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/library/special-collections/whaling-archives/

"E"

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bamecklenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Cheri,
>
> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
> keep researching.
>
> ~Barbara
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>
>   Barbara,
>
> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1890-1954).
>
> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
> library to check for the details on these ports.
>
> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
> is though.
> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>
> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
> has a subscription.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

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Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by haven't 
been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I looked at 
the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1820-1890 
(Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of the 
chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, published 
1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists and what's 
missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts covering 22 
Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive roll number.  
That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) 
are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, 
MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New 
Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; 
Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to 
your public library to check for the details on these ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it is 
though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port though.  
If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a 
subscription.



  Cheri Mello
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Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Cheri Mello]

Barbara,

In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
1890-1954).

In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of the
chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
library to check for the details on these ports.

You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
is though.
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml

You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port though.
If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a
subscription.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

I have looked at the passports and found my gr gr gr grandfather, Antonio 
Victorino in Horta in March 7, 1859. I am now trying to find his arrival in 
America. It looks like the ship is Asor and he arrived in (I think) Boston from 
family records. But supposedly his brother Joseph (VItorino Jose) arrived with 
him and I can't find him. So do you know if there is a passenger list for the 
ship Asor landing in America in 1859? This is the url for the passport I found: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 Antonio Victorino is the last entry on the page.

Thanks for any help! 

Barbara
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  Barbara,


  The 3 ports for the Azores are Ponta Delgada (on Sao Miguel), Angra, and 
Horta.  Only Ponta Delgada and Horta are online.  Ponta Delgada doesn't go back 
to 1859.  I don't know about Angra.  You can access the passaportes here: 
http://tombo.pt/d/acores



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Cheri Mello]

Barbara,

The 3 ports for the Azores are Ponta Delgada (on Sao Miguel), Angra, and
Horta.  Only Ponta Delgada and Horta are online.  Ponta Delgada doesn't go
back to 1859.  I don't know about Angra.  You can access the passaportes
here: http://tombo.pt/d/acores

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Is there a list somewhere of the ships from the Azores to America in 1859? And 
if so is there a list of passengers on the ships?

Barbara
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  Al,


  Outbound or inbound?


  Outbound:  I believe Horta is the nearest port to Flores.  Your ancestor 
probably registered in Horta (although, if he wanted to get to America on the 
next boat, he could have made his way over to Angra on Terceira or Ponta 
Delgada on Sao Miguel).  Horta is not online at the CCA.  You'd have to hire 
Joao Ventura, the archivist to get it for you (heroi99 at yahoo.com).


  Inbound:  You'll have to check the port of New Bedford as well as the port of 
New York (the ship may have sailed to New York first and your ancestor may be 
counted there.  Then the boat when on to New Bedford where he got off.  Or the 
captain may have had the New York people counted in New York and the New 
Bedford people counted in New Bedford).  I'm not sure what lists exist for 1884 
in America.  The port in New York was called Castle Garden in 1884: 
http://www.castlegarden.org/  As for New Bedford, Michael Tepper's American 
Passegner Arrival Records, list this in Table 1 (at the back of Chapter 3):  
New Bedford, Ma:  Originals 1823-1899; Copies or Abstracts: 1826-1852 (gaps); 
State Dept. Transcripts: 1822, 1825-1827, 1830-1831.  There's a footnote: The 
Archives has an unmicrofilmed card index for New Bedford, 1875-1899.  Tepper's 
book was written in 1993, so something may have been done with that index by 
now.  By Archives, Tepper means the National Archive and Record Administration 
(NARA).  



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Cheri Mello]

Al,

Outbound or inbound?

Outbound:  I believe Horta is the nearest port to Flores.  Your ancestor
probably registered in Horta (although, if he wanted to get to America on
the next boat, he could have made his way over to Angra on Terceira or
Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel).  Horta is not online at the CCA.  You'd have
to hire Joao Ventura, the archivist to get it for you (heroi99 at yahoo.com
).

Inbound:  You'll have to check the port of New Bedford as well as the port
of New York (the ship may have sailed to New York first and your ancestor
may be counted there.  Then the boat when on to New Bedford where he got
off.  Or the captain may have had the New York people counted in New York
and the New Bedford people counted in New Bedford).  I'm not sure what
lists exist for 1884 in America.  The port in New York was called Castle
Garden in 1884: http://www.castlegarden.org/  As for New Bedford, Michael
Tepper's American Passegner Arrival Records, list this in Table 1 (at the
back of Chapter 3):  New Bedford, Ma:  Originals 1823-1899; Copies or
Abstracts: 1826-1852 (gaps); State Dept. Transcripts: 1822, 1825-1827,
1830-1831.  There's a footnote: The Archives has an unmicrofilmed card
index for New Bedford, 1875-1899.  Tepper's book was written in 1993, so
something may have been done with that index by now.  By Archives, Tepper
means the National Archive and Record Administration (NARA).

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Bigal429 via Azores Genealogy]

II Found that My Grandfather emigrated from Flores to New  Bedford in 1884 
on the Bk Veronica. Is there a Web site that I can see him  listed on that 
manafest?
 
Al Sequeira 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

[Carolyn M]

"E"
I have checked Ancestry.com, but I might have missed something in their 
card catalog.  I am not very familiar with that.  His name was Vitorino de 
Jesus Reixelo.  I have a photocopy of his passport, but I would really like 
to find him on a ship's manifest.

Thank you,
Carolyn

On Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:35:09 PM UTC-4, E Sharp wrote:
>
> Joao V. knows of these record from the mainland to Brazil.I believe 
> this is the website I used for my grandmother.
>
>
> http://www.cepese.pt/portal/investigacao/bases-de-ados/emigracao/res_pesq_titulares
>  
> 
>
> Also, my 4th great-grandfather's brother's son went from mainland Portugal 
> to Brazil (back and forth a few time..went to and found his fortune in 
> Brazil and eventually returned to Lisbon to live...and I found a few of his 
> records on Ancestry.  Have you tried them?  If you don't have Ancestry, 
> give me the names and I will look them up for you.  
>
> "E"
> ​
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

["E" Sharp]

Joao V. knows of these record from the mainland to Brazil.I believe
this is the website I used for my grandmother.

http://www.cepese.pt/portal/investigacao/bases-de-ados/emigracao/res_pesq_titulares


Also, my 4th great-grandfather's brother's son went from mainland Portugal
to Brazil (back and forth a few time..went to and found his fortune in
Brazil and eventually returned to Lisbon to live...and I found a few of his
records on Ancestry.  Have you tried them?  If you don't have Ancestry,
give me the names and I will look them up for you.

"E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

[Cheri Mello]

Carolyn M,

Only a few people on this list research the mainland.  Most people here
research the Azores.  So if no one answers, it's because no one knows.

I'd check the Tombo.pt site.  Joao C. Ventura crawls various Portuguese
genealogy sites that have databases.  Here is what he has for Porto:
http://tombo.pt/en/d/porto

You are a Gmail user.  You never see your own posts, so it's hard to tell.

Good luck,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships manifest from Porto, Portugal to Brazil around October 1911

[Carolyn M]

I would like to know if anyone knows of any online records of ships 
manifests leaving Porto, Portugal to Brazil?

My great-uncle left Porto bound for Brazil on or around October 1911, but I 
don't know the name of the ship.

I also posted this to the Portuguese Genealogy Board, but I'm not sure it 
ever got through.  This is my first post, and I want to thank you all for 
being here!

Any information regarding the manifest would be greatly appreciated.

Carolyn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Cheri Mello]

Candice K,

Horta would be the nearest port.  They are not online yet. :(


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Candice Kiss]

>From where might residents of Flores departed in 1898 or 1899?  Are 
Passaportes books available for Flores?

Thank you very much.


Candice

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:07:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

> Antonio R,
>
> Yes, emigration out of the Azores are the Passaportes book.  The port of 
> Ponta Delgada, on Sao Miguel island is online at the CCA site:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/
>
> The direct URL to the Passaportes is: 
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx
>
> Pick Ponta Delgada from the drop down menu, then OK, then find the record 
> group that contains 1915.
>
> Good luck and happy hunting,
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Antonio Roque]

Thank you Cheri

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:07:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Antonio R,
>
> Yes, emigration out of the Azores are the Passaportes book.  The port of 
> Ponta Delgada, on Sao Miguel island is online at the CCA site:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/
>
> The direct URL to the Passaportes is: 
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx
>
> Pick Ponta Delgada from the drop down menu, then OK, then find the record 
> group that contains 1915.
>
> Good luck and happy hunting,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[pico]

Lisa,Look for Pico passengers departing from Horta.Those from Terceira and S.Jorge, as well as Graciosa, depart from Angra.Neither is online yet.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
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This brings up a question.  I looked but did not locate the following information in relation to the ships leaving the Azores for the United States.What port would you depart from if you were immigrating fromTerceira?Sao Jorge?Pico?That way I can figure out if I can find my people in the Passaportes book on the CCA site.Thanks!Lisa Caetano HarleySouthern Cal 




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[lisahbskt]

This brings up a question.  I looked but did not locate the following 
information in relation to the ships leaving the Azores for the United States.

What port would you depart from if you were immigrating from

Terceira?

Sao Jorge?

Pico?

That way I can figure out if I can find my people in the Passaportes book on 
the CCA site.

Thanks!

Lisa Caetano Harley
Southern Cal
looking forward to meeting those attending the Conference next month.




Antonio Roque  Mar 15 12:51PM -0700   

  Is there a place to look for the ships that left S. Miguel in 1915 and 
 where they were destined to?

 

Cheri Mello  Mar 15 02:07PM -0700   

  Antonio R,
  
 Yes, emigration out of the Azores are the Passaportes book.  The port of
 Ponta Delgada, on Sao Miguel island is online at the CCA site:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/
  
 The direct URL to the Passaportes is:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx
  
 Pick Ponta Delgada from the drop down menu, then OK, then find the record
 group that contains 1915.
  
 Good luck and happy hunting,
 Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

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Antonio R,

Yes, emigration out of the Azores are the Passaportes book.  The port of
Ponta Delgada, on Sao Miguel island is online at the CCA site:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/

The direct URL to the Passaportes is:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx

Pick Ponta Delgada from the drop down menu, then OK, then find the record
group that contains 1915.

Good luck and happy hunting,
Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Antonio Roque]

Is there a place to look for the ships that left S. Miguel in 1915 and 
where they were destined to?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] "Ships of Our Ancestors"

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> Hermano,

Thanks for the link. The pics are really nice and what's even better is
that they give you the museum that has the original and you can write to
them and get copies most of the time.

Rosemarie C.


> Rosemarie,Thanks for sharing.If anyone is interested in previewing the
> book try the link below.Hermano
>  
> http://books.google.com/books?id=rX6itGfBamUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=steamship+aurania+1897+Feb+12&source=gbs_similarbooks_s&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
> > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:50:45 -0700
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] "Ships of Our Ancestors"
>> From: rcap...@redshift.com
>> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> The book, "Ships of Our Ancestors" by Michael J. Anuta sold originally
>> for
>> $35. is on sale this weekend only for $19.95 at genealogical.com
>>
>> This is a great book if you are at all interested in the steamships of
>> the
>> 1800's and early 1900. It has pictures and a little bio of each ship.
>>
>> Rosemarie C.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] "Ships of Our Ancestors"

[Hermano C. Pires]

Rosemarie,Thanks for sharing.If anyone is interested in previewing the book try 
the link below.Hermano
 
http://books.google.com/books?id=rX6itGfBamUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=steamship+aurania+1897+Feb+12&source=gbs_similarbooks_s&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
 > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:50:45 -0700
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] "Ships of Our Ancestors"
> From: rcap...@redshift.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> Dear Listers,
> 
> The book, "Ships of Our Ancestors" by Michael J. Anuta sold originally for
> $35. is on sale this weekend only for $19.95 at genealogical.com
> 
> This is a great book if you are at all interested in the steamships of the
> 1800's and early 1900. It has pictures and a little bio of each ship.
> 
> Rosemarie C.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] "Ships of Our Ancestors"

[rcapodc]

Dear Listers,

The book, "Ships of Our Ancestors" by Michael J. Anuta sold originally for
$35. is on sale this weekend only for $19.95 at genealogical.com

This is a great book if you are at all interested in the steamships of the
1800's and early 1900. It has pictures and a little bio of each ship.

Rosemarie C.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Shirley Allegre]

Who are you looking for?  I can probably help here.

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


  Jacki, 

  The date on the file card of June 8 1882, is incorrect. The ship SS Monarch 
arrived in Hawaii 2 Jul 1882, 57 days out of Sao Miguel . It would have left 
port the first week of May, and been rounding South America at that time.  The 
manifest might not be available, but the Oakland FHC has the films of the 
Portuguese Consulate registering immigrants at Honolulu


   1, On shelf   
Call  Film 1017125   
Author  Portugal. Consulado Geral (Honolulu)   
Title  Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913   
Series  Language: Text in Portuguese.   
Subject  1. Hawaii - Emigration and immigration 2. Portugal - 
Emigration and immigration 3. Portugal, Funchal - Emigration and immigration 4. 
Portugal, Angra do Heroísmo - Emigration and immigration 5. Portugal, Horta - 
Emigration and immigration 6. Portugal, Ponta Delgada - Emigration and 
immigration 7. Portuguese - Hawaii   
Summary  Livro de matrícula de cidadãos portugueses em Hawaii. 
Registration of Portuguese citizens arriving in Hawaii. Lists include some 
personal information about each of the persons registered.   
Notes  1017125 - - - - - - - - - - - Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913
   
   1321135 Item 17 * - - - - Two pages omitted in error from above film  


  -- Eric Edgar




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Jacki G]

Definitely will Shirley. I'll make a note in my task list to let you know.
 
Jacki
 
Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:59 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists


Jacki:  If you find any info about ships that arrived in San Francisco from
Hawaii in 1892, would you PLEASE let me know what you find.
My paternal grandfather, Joao "John" Cambra or Camara, or Roble, or Rebello,
said that he immigrated in 1892.
Thanks
Shirley

- Original Message - 
From: Ray Souza <mailto:rayrso...@yahoo.com>  
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

JackiHave you tried the Portuguese Historical and Genealogical Society
of Hawaii ?  Their phone  no. is 1-808-841-5044 (mon-wed-fri only ..after 12
pm...remember the 3 hour difference) address 810 North Vineyard Blvd. R.
11...Honolulu ,Hawaii 96817..Hope this helpsRay Souza

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Jacki G.  wrote:




From: Jacki G. 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:12 PM


Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing
from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892?
 
I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I
couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives
site.
 
In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and
Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the
Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia
bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information.
They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao
Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled
in Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933.
The information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a
hand written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any
documents or source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for
them. Although there were only birthdates and places for 7.
 
I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is
strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930
census.
 
Thanks in advance
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Shirley Allegre]

Jacki:  If you find any info about ships that arrived in San Francisco from 
Hawaii in 1892, would you PLEASE let me know what you find.
My paternal grandfather, Joao "John" Cambra or Camara, or Roble, or Rebello, 
said that he immigrated in 1892.
Thanks
Shirley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Souza 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists


JackiHave you tried the Portuguese Historical and Genealogical 
Society of Hawaii ?  Their phone  no. is 1-808-841-5044 (mon-wed-fri only 
..after 12 pm...remember the 3 hour difference) address 810 North Vineyard 
Blvd. R. 11...Honolulu ,Hawaii 96817..Hope this helpsRay Souza

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Jacki G.  wrote:


  From: Jacki G. 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:12 PM


  Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships 
sailing from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892?

  I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. 
I couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives site.

  In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and 
Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the 
Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia 
bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information.  
They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao 
Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled in 
Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933. The 
information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a hand 
written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any documents or 
source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for them. Although 
there were only birthdates and places for 7.

  I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which 
is strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 
census.

  Thanks in advance

  Thank you

  Jacki
  Pittsburg, California, USA
  Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, 
Furtado, Rapoza
  Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Jacki G]

 
Thank you Cheri and Ray. I will definitely try both of those.
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ray Souza
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:10 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists


JackiHave you tried the Portuguese Historical and Genealogical Society
of Hawaii ?  Their phone  no. is 1-808-841-5044 (mon-wed-fri only ..after 12
pm...remember the 3 hour difference) address 810 North Vineyard Blvd. R.
11...Honolulu ,Hawaii 96817..Hope this helpsRay Souza

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Jacki G.  wrote:




From: Jacki G. 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:12 PM


Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing
from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892?
 
I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I
couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives
site.
 
In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and
Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the
Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia
bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information.
They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao
Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled
in Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933.
The information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a
hand written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any
documents or source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for
them. Although there were only birthdates and places for 7.
 
I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is
strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930
census.
 
Thanks in advance
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Ray Souza]

JackiHave you tried the Portuguese Historical and Genealogical Society of 
Hawaii ?  Their phone  no. is 1-808-841-5044 (mon-wed-fri only ..after 12 
pm...remember the 3 hour difference) address 810 North Vineyard Blvd. R. 
11...Honolulu ,Hawaii 96817..Hope this helpsRay Souza

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:12 PM



Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing from 
Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892?
 
I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I 
couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives site.
 
In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and Joaquina 
Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the Hansa in 
1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia bound for San 
Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information.  They had one 
child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao Miguel. They had 
six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled in Oakland and 
stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933. The information 
that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a hand written 
collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any documents or source 
information. There was a total of 11 children listed for them. Although there 
were only birthdates and places for 7.
 
I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is 
strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 
census.
 
Thanks in advance
 


Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo, Furtado, 
Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Cheri Mello]

Jacki,

Go poke around on Mel's Portuguese Hawaiian Web site:
www.yourislandroutes.com

I think in 1892, you are dealing with the Kingdom of Hawaii. There was a
short period of time where Hawaii was an independent nation, and then became
a U.S. territory before becoming a state around 1959.  I'd have to look up
my HI history.  But being part of the Kingdom may limit your sources.

Mel has some stuff for the Kingdom of Hawaii.  If she doesn't see this
message, go to her site at www.yourislandroutes.com and email her directly.
Sometimes she gets a little busy, so give her a couple of days to answer
you.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Passenger Lists

[Jacki G.]

Does anyone know where or if I can find passenger lists for ships sailing
from Hawaii to San Francsico in 1892?
 
I've looked on Ancestry and the only ones I could find start in 1893. I
couldn't find anything for ships leaving Hawaii on the Hawaiian Archives
site.
 
In particular, I am looking for my 2nd great grandparents, Manuel and
Joaquina Rosa Pereira (sometimes went by Perry) who arrived in Hawaii on the
Hansa in 1882 and suposedly left there on Aug 17, 1892 on the SS Australia
bound for San Francisco. I am trying to verify this as correct information.
They had one child (Maria 2) with them when they arrived in Hawaii from Sao
Miguel. They had six children with them when they left Hawaii. They settled
in Oakland and stayed there until they both died a few months apart in 1933.
The information that I have which was passed down by a cousin are just a
hand written collection of names and dates. There are no copies of any
documents or source information. There was a total of 11 children listed for
them. Although there were only birthdates and places for 7.
 
I have not been able to find them on any of the census' either. Which is
strange because they should be in Oakland for the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930
census.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi:  I am just now reading your correspondence.  This is what I found:

From:  IMMIGRATION FROM AZORES TO HAWAII 1879-1883.   (Author Bob de Mello)
Page 144   bottom of page.

FERNANDES, Luis,age 39
Father:  Jose de Medieros Fernandes
Mother:  Antonia Jacinta
>From F. (Faja) de Cima
WIFE;
Rose de Jesus,   age 25
CHILDREN
Manual 4,  Jose 6 months
#347 Monarch

From:  CONSULADO GERAL DE PORTUGAL EM HAWAII

#895   Luiz Fernandes ,  age 39
from?  Ponta Delgada
Married with:  
Rosa de Jesus,  age 25
CHILDREN
Manuel 4
Jose  6 months


Jacki:  I see that you live in California.  So do I.  What is your phone 
number?  I can call you.

Also, we could meet at the State Library in Sacramento sometime after it stops 
raining.  

Shirley in CA


  - Original Message - 
  From: Iris Bilodeau 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Aloha again Jacki G.

I don't know which island the ships landed.  My guess would be Oahu 
first then some were taken to other islands.  Two sets of my great-grandparents 
eventually landed on Maui. But my Oliveira great grandparents went to Kauai 
before Maui.  Have you tried contacting The Portuguese Genealogical & 
Historical Society of Hawaii?
810 North Vineyard Blvd., Rm 11
Honolulu, Hawaii,  96817
808 841-5044 or Doris at 808-455-2142.
It's only $10 a year dues to be a member.

Here is what it says about the Steamship Monarch in "The Portuguese in 
Hawaii" by John Henry Felix, Ph.D.  (out of print)
#7.  Steamship Monarch (British) arrived Sept 15, 1882, 57 days out 
from St. Michael (Sao Miguel), Azores, with 202 men, 197 women, 458 children.

Mele Kalikimaka,
Iris


--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


  From: Jacki G. 
      Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:38 PM


  Mahalo Iris

  That does help. It gives me an approximate year of birth for Luiz and 
Jose. I haven't been able yet to find Luiz on any census and I didn't know that 
Jose existed before two days ago. 

  Do you know if that would that be the island of Ohau where they 
arrived? 

  Thank you

  Jacki
  Pittsburg, California, USA
  Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
  Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel




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  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2.18 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:

#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 
1882 from Sao Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.

Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


  From: Jacki G. 
      Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM


  Iris,

  If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up 
Luiz and Roza Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I 
found an index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been 
unable to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great 
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more 
info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the 
info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 
with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was 
born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 

  Thank you

  Jacki
  Pittsburg, California, USA
  Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, 
Azevedo
  Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel




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  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called 
"Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Kno

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G]

Eric,
 
Thank you. That definitely makes more sense.
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:43 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Jacki, 
 
This where the family is from. When you order films at the FHC this the
place to look for. In Faja Cima the church records are for Nossa Senhora da
Olveira.
 
A concelho is like a county, a group of towns. 
 
A fregusia is the town .  Faja means fan but refers to the fan shaped area
built up by eroding soil. This gives a flat place to farm and/or build
houses. It's commonly seen as a place
 
 name all over the Azores. ( Faja Grande, Fajazinha,Faja do Joao Dias, Faja
dos Cubres)
 
So it would be the top  or upper faja. Faja de Cima, is next to Faja de
Baixo, the lower, bottom, or at the base.
 
 
 Here is a map from Doug Holmes Portuguese Geneaolgy Master list site. You
can look through the postings there to see if others are researching this
family also.

http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/ponta-delgada.html
 
Eric

 
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jacki G.  wrote:


Eric,
 
Do you or does anyone else know what this means?
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
It translates as Clientele from above Faja
 
Would that be where he worked? 
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM 

To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Jacki, 
 
Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is
at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain.
Hope some others 
 
offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
 
Luiz Fernandes
 
for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes  mother-Antonia Jacinta
 

age of applicant - 39 years
 
Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
Occupation- Campones- peasant
 
persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6
months
 
number of people traveling-4
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau  wrote:



Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:



From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM 


Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:



From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G]

Iris,
 
Thank you, that was really nice of you. 
 
I have been trying to find Luiz on a census but no luck so far. I don't know
how long they stayed there before moving onto California.  He could have
only been on either 1890 or 1900 because he and his son Manuel (my g
grandfather) were dead by the time the 1910 census happened. I found Roza
and Manuels wife and daughters in 1910 in Oakland, CA. I know that Manuel
was killed 8/16/09 in a quarry explosion but I have no idea so far what
happened to Luiz and when.
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Jacki,
I called Doris Naumu and she said all the ships that sailed Portuguese to
Hawaii landed first on Oahu.  They had to be "cleared" before they were let
on shore.  Smaller boats took on immigrants to other islands.
Iris
Nevada City, CA
searching Sao Miguel, Cabral, Oliveira

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Jacki G.  wrote:



From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:14 PM


Eric,
 
Do you or does anyone else know what this means?
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
It translates as Clientele from above Faja
 
Would that be where he worked? 
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Jacki, 
 
Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is
at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain.
Hope some others 
 
offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
 
Luiz Fernandes
 
for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes  mother-Antonia Jacinta
 

age of applicant - 39 years
 
Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
Occupation- Campones- peasant
 
persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6
months
 
number of people traveling-4
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=irisca...@yahoo.com> > wrote:



Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com> >
wrote:



From: Jacki G. http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ja...@cdmmarketing.com> >
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> 
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM 


Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

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[mailto:azores@googlegroups.com
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Behalf Of Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
<http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote:



From: Cheri Mello http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfsche...@gmail.com&g

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Iris Bilodeau]

Jacki,
I called Doris Naumu and she said all the ships that sailed Portuguese to 
Hawaii landed first on Oahu.  They had to be "cleared" before they were let on 
shore.  Smaller boats took on immigrants to other islands.
Iris
Nevada City, CA
searching Sao Miguel, Cabral, Oliveira

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:14 PM



Eric,
 
Do you or does anyone else know what this means?
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
It translates as Clientele from above Faja
 
Would that be where he worked? 
 


 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Jacki, 
 
Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is at 
line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain. Hope 
some others 
 
offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
 
Luiz Fernandes
 
for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes  mother-Antonia Jacinta
 

age of applicant - 39 years
 
Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
Occupation- Campones- peasant
 
persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6 
months
 
number of people traveling-4
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau  wrote:






Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao 
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM 






Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza 
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index 
card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find 
the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather 
Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about 
them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from 
one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her 
husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 
1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 


Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii







Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to 
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you 
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:


From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for 
Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes 
can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[eric edgar]

Jacki,

This where the family is from. When you order films at the FHC this the
place to look for. In Faja Cima the church records are for Nossa Senhora da
Olveira.

A concelho is like a county, a group of towns.

A fregusia is the town .  Faja means fan but refers to the fan shaped area
built up by eroding soil. This gives a flat place to farm and/or build
houses. It's commonly seen as a place

 name all over the Azores. ( Faja Grande, Fajazinha,Faja do Joao Dias, Faja
dos Cubres)

So it would be the top  or upper faja. Faja de Cima, is next to Faja de
Baixo, the lower, bottom, or at the base.


 Here is a map from Doug Holmes Portuguese Geneaolgy Master list site. You
can look through the postings there to see if others are researching this
family also.

http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/ponta-delgada.html

Eric


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jacki G.  wrote:

>  Eric,
>
> Do you or does anyone else know what this means?
>
> *Freguesia-*FC for Faja de Cima
>
> It translates as Clientele from above Faja
>
> Would that be where he worked?
>
>
> Jacki
> Pittsburg, California, USA
> Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
> Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
>
>
>  --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *eric edgar
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM
>
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
>
>   Jacki,
>
> Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is
> at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain.
> Hope some others
>
> offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
>
> Luiz Fernandes
>
> *for parents- father* - Jose Mattos Fernandes  *mother*-Antonia Jacinta
>
>
> *age of applicant* - 39 years
>
> *Concelho*- PD for Ponta Degada
>
> *Freguesia-*FC for Faja de Cima
>
> *Occupation*- Campones- peasant
>
> *persons traveling with*- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose ,
> 6 months
>
> *number of people traveling*-4
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau wrote:
>
>>   Aloha Jacki,
>> This is what I have on page 220:
>>
>> #204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from
>> Sao Miguel.
>> With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
>> Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
>>
>> Hope this helps Jacki.
>> Iris Cabral Bilodeau.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G. * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jacki G. 
>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM
>>
>>
>>  Iris,
>>
>> If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
>> Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
>> index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
>> to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
>> grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
>> more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
>> and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
>> and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
>> her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz.
>>
>>  Thank you
>>
>> Jacki
>> Pittsburg, California, USA
>> Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
>> Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Iris Bilodeau
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
>>
>>Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants
>> to Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names
>> you want me to look up, let me know.
>> Iris Cabral Bilodeau
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Cheri Mello 
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM
>>
>> Jacki,
>>
>> Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
>> for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.
>>
>> Can you s

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Cheri Mello]

Jacki,

We don't translate the word fregueisa because it comes out weird. So we just
say village.  Someone has probably abbreviated Faja de Cima as FC.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G.]

Eric,
 
Do you or does anyone else know what this means?
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
It translates as Clientele from above Faja
 
Would that be where he worked? 
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Jacki, 
 
Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is
at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain.
Hope some others 
 
offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
 
Luiz Fernandes
 
for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes  mother-Antonia Jacinta
 

age of applicant - 39 years
 
Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
Occupation- Campones- peasant
 
persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6
months
 
number of people traveling-4
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau  wrote:



Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:



From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM 


Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

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From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G.]

Wow Eric!
 
Thank you so much!  I would never have been able to find that on my own. If
not for any other reason, I don't speak/read portuguese. (Yet anyway. I'm
working to fix that) I don't have to tell you how incredible it feels when
these discoveries are made. Also thank you for the info for the FHC in
Oakland. I should be able to have the FHC in Concord order it so I don't
have to drive so far. If not, it'll be a road trip to Oak.
 
Thank you Again
 
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10.42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii


Jacki, 
 
Here is the passport out of Ponta Delgada for this family. Luiz Fernades is
at line 347. This what I get from it. Lots of abbreviations, not certain.
Hope some others 
 
offer their thoughts. It's the parents names I'm unsure of.
 
Luiz Fernandes
 
for parents- father - Jose Mattos Fernandes  mother-Antonia Jacinta
 

age of applicant - 39 years
 
Concelho- PD for Ponta Degada
 
Freguesia-FC for Faja de Cima
 
Occupation- Campones- peasant
 
persons traveling with- Rosa de Jesus, 25 years , Manuel 4 years, Jose , 6
months
 
number of people traveling-4
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Iris Bilodeau  wrote:



Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:



From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM 


Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:



From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[eric edgar]

>Jacki,
>>
>
The date on the file card of June 8 1882, is incorrect. The ship SS Monarch
arrived in Hawaii 2 Jul 1882, 57 days out of Sao Miguel . It would have left
port the first week of May, and been

rounding South America at that time.  The manifest might not be available,
but the Oakland FHC has the films of the Portuguese Consulate registering
immigrants at Honolulu


   1, On shelf Call Film 1017125 Author Portugal. Consulado Geral
(Honolulu)
Title Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913 Series Language: Text in
Portuguese.
Subject 1. Hawaii - Emigration and
immigration2.
Portugal
- Emigration and
immigration3.
Portugal,
Funchal - Emigration and
immigration4.
Portugal,
Angra do Heroísmo - Emigration and
immigration5.
Portugal,
Horta - Emigration and
immigration6.
Portugal,
Ponta Delgada - Emigration and
immigration7.
Portuguese
- 
Hawaii
Summary Livro de matrícula de cidadãos portugueses em Hawaii.
Registration of Portuguese citizens arriving in Hawaii. Lists include some
personal information about each of the persons registered. Notes 1017125
- - - - - - - - - - - Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913  1321135 Item 17 *
- - - - Two pages omitted in error from above film

>-- Eric Edgar
>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Iris Bilodeau]

Aloha again Jacki G.
 
I don't know which island the ships landed.  My guess would be Oahu first then 
some were taken to other islands.  Two sets of my great-grandparents eventually 
landed on Maui. But my Oliveira great grandparents went to Kauai before Maui.  
Have you tried contacting The Portuguese Genealogical & Historical Society of 
Hawaii?
810 North Vineyard Blvd., Rm 11
Honolulu, Hawaii,  96817
808 841-5044 or Doris at 808-455-2142.
It's only $10 a year dues to be a member.
 
Here is what it says about the Steamship Monarch in "The Portuguese in Hawaii" 
by John Henry Felix, Ph.D.  (out of print)
#7.  Steamship Monarch (British) arrived Sept 15, 1882, 57 days out from St. 
Michael (Sao Miguel), Azores, with 202 men, 197 women, 458 children.

Mele Kalikimaka,
Iris
 

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:38 PM



Mahalo Iris
 
That does help. It gives me an approximate year of birth for Luiz and Jose. I 
haven't been able yet to find Luiz on any census and I didn't know that Jose 
existed before two days ago. 
 
Do you know if that would that be the island of Ohau where they arrived? 
 


Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2.18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii







Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao 
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM



Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza 
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index 
card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find 
the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather 
Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about 
them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from 
one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her 
husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 
1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 


Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii







Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to 
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you 
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:


From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for 
Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes 
can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G.]

Mahalo Iris
 
That does help. It gives me an approximate year of birth for Luiz and Jose.
I haven't been able yet to find Luiz on any census and I didn't know that
Jose existed before two days ago. 
 
Do you know if that would that be the island of Ohau where they arrived? 
 
Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2.18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:



From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM


Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 

Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:



From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Jacki G.]

Cheri,
 
He actually immigrated in 1906. He arrived in Boston on 8/6/1906 headed for
Martinez, CA.  So, yes, he was here for the 1910 census. He would have been
in the Martinez area for both 1910 and 1920. Which is about 15 miles west of
where he was in the 1930 census. In 1920 he would have still been living
with his parents. He didn't marry until 1925. His parents names were Manuel
and Mary/Maria Medeiros and he had a brother named Manuel and two sisters,
Mary/Maria and Lizzy (Alice). Lizzy was born in Martinez. The others were
all born in the Azores.
 
Thank you for clarifying his citizenship status
 
Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perriera, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1.23 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records


Jacki,

I ran it through Ancestry with no problem.  They have him indexed as
Medeiros.

The census says he immigrated in 1910 and he has filed his papers to become
a citizen.

Where was Jose in 1920 and was he in America for the 1910 census (census day
was Apr. 15th 1910)?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Iris Bilodeau]

Aloha Jacki,
This is what I have on page 220:
 
#204 Fernandes, Luiz age 40.  Arrived Hawaii on the Monarch in 1882 from Sao 
Miguel.
With wife Roza de Jesus age 25.
Children: Manoel (no age) and Jose 4months.
 
Hope this helps Jacki.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau.

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, Jacki G.  wrote:


From: Jacki G. 
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:19 AM



Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza 
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an index 
card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable to find 
the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great grandfather 
Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find more info about 
them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert and the info from 
one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880 and 1885 with her 
husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and her son was born Aug 
1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 


Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii







Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to 
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you 
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Cheri Mello  wrote:


From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for 
Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes 
can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Jacki G.]

Iris,
 
If you have time, I would greatly appreciate you looking up Luiz and Roza
Fernandes and their son Manuel and possibly another son Jose. I found an
index card for them in June of 1882 on the SS Monarch but have been unable
to find the actual manifest. I am pretty sure that this is my g great
grandfather Manuel Fernandes and his parents and brother. If I could find
more info about them, I could be more sure. According to Roza's death cert
and the info from one of the census' she immigrated somewhere between 1880
and 1885 with her husband and at least one son. She was born Jan 1859 and
her son was born Aug 1878. I don't know any dates for Luiz. 
 
Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Perreira, Azevedo
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Iris Bilodeau
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8.14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii



Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

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From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Cheri Mello]

Jacki,

I ran it through Ancestry with no problem.  They have him indexed as
Medeiros.

The census says he immigrated in 1910 and he has filed his papers to become
a citizen.

Where was Jose in 1920 and was he in America for the 1910 census (census day
was Apr. 15th 1910)?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Jacki G.]

Cheri,
 
Well that would make sense. They are listed as "illegible" when you search
for them but here are the details:
 
Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930.
State: California
County: CONTRA COSTA
Browse Description: TWP. 16
Enumeration District: 7-56
Description: TWP. 16 AND BAY POINT, NICHOLS, AND CLYDE VILLAGES
Sheet Number: 3A
 
They are house # 50
 
Josef Medeiros (his name was really Jose)
Mary Medeiros
Lorraine Medeiros
 
Thank you
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
 
 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8.55 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

[Iris Bilodeau]

Speaking of Ships Records, I have a book called "Portuguese Immigrants to 
Hawaii".  Compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr.  1993.  If anyone has names you 
want me to look up, let me know.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau

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From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 8:54 PM


Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na) for 
Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of eyes 
can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Cheri Mello]

Jacki,

Pd. is not a code for that column.  It's PA (Pa) for Papers filed, NA (Na)
for Naturalized, and AL (Al) for Alien.

Can you say where you found your ancestor on the 1930 so another pair of
eyes can take a look?

You didn't have to be a citizen to have Social Security.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Jacki G.]

The 1930 census says what looks like Pd. I am assuming that that may mean
"pending". I was able to find the manifest of the ship that he arrived on
last night and there is  a notation on it with a date of April 1938. Another
researcher told me that was made by the immigration dept. My mother keeps
saying that she thought is was in the late twenties but I called my aunt
last night and she said she thought she was around 12 when he became a
citizen and she was born in 1927. That would be right in line with the 1938
notation. She also said they had to go to San Francisco for it. There is a
regional center in San Bruno which is about 15 miles south so I guess I will
start there. The strange thing though, is, I have a copy of his application
for a Soc Sec. number. He did that in Dec 1936. How would he have gotten a
number if he wasn't a citizen yet? Maybe they didn't actually issue it until
1938?
 
Thanks for the help
Jacki

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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5.35 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records



Hi Jacki,

 

First check the 1930 US Census to see if he was a Citizen. If he was then
depending on where he lived the court that had jurisdiction at the time
would have the records. Many immigrants did not apply for citizenship until
the late 1930's when social security was started. At that time you had to be
a US citizen to get social security.  

 

Citizen ship records could be in a state district court such as records for
Attleboro, MA up till the 1940's were kept at the Taunton district Court and
then transferred to the State Archives in Boston. Later records in the
1950's were done in Federal courts and are now in the Federal Archives in
Waltham MA.

 

 

Rick

 

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores   for,
Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jacki G.
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:18 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

First, thank you all for the ideas. 

 

Rick,

 

How would I go about finding his petition?  My mother says she thinks it was
somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that he was
living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time. The family
had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since his and my
grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers how it was
obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I started my
research unfortunately.

 

Jacki

Pittsburg, California, USA

Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes

 

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On Behalf Of rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5.29 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

 

Hi Jacki 

 

If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization
would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US.  

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores   for,
Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

Jacki,

You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island
arrivals.  More info on how to do that can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
(Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.")

Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial
yet.  Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a
researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving
the Azores.   A list of researchers for hire can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[rfrancispimentel]

Hi Jacki,

 

First check the 1930 US Census to see if he was a Citizen. If he was
then depending on where he lived the court that had jurisdiction at the
time would have the records. Many immigrants did not apply for
citizenship until the late 1930's when social security was started. At
that time you had to be a US citizen to get social security.  

 

Citizen ship records could be in a state district court such as records
for Attleboro, MA up till the 1940's were kept at the Taunton district
Court and then transferred to the State Archives in Boston. Later
records in the 1950's were done in Federal courts and are now in the
Federal Archives in Waltham MA.

 

 

Rick

 

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacki G.
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:18 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

First, thank you all for the ideas. 

 

Rick,

 

How would I go about finding his petition?  My mother says she thinks it
was somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that
he was living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time.
The family had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since
his and my grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers
how it was obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I
started my research unfortunately.

 

Jacki

Pittsburg, California, USA

Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes

 

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rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5.29 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

 

Hi Jacki 

 

If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization
would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US.  

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

Jacki,

You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island
arrivals.  More info on how to do that can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
(Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.")

Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from
Faial yet.  Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider
hiring a researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships
lists leaving the Azores.   A list of researchers for hire can be found
here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researcher
s

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Jacki G.]

First, thank you all for the ideas. 
 
Rick,
 
How would I go about finding his petition?  My mother says she thinks it was
somewhere around 1926 but she's not sure. The only absolute was that he was
living in California in the San Francisco Bay Area at the time. The family
had his birth certificate from Faial at one point, but since his and my
grandmother's deaths, no one knows where it went or remembers how it was
obtained. I have never seen it as it was lost long before I started my
research unfortunately.
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Family names: Medeiros, Machado, Pacheco, Perreira, Fernandes

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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records



 

 

Hi Jacki 

 

If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization
would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US.  

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores   for,
Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores+ow...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

Jacki,

You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island
arrivals.  More info on how to do that can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
(Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.")

Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial
yet.  Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a
researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving
the Azores.   A list of researchers for hire can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[rfrancispimentel]

 

 

Hi Jacki 

 

If your grandfather was Naturalized then his Petition for Naturalization
would provide a wealth of information as to his arrival in the US.  

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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[mailto:azores+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:20 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

 

Jacki,

You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island
arrivals.  More info on how to do that can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
(Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.")

Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from
Faial yet.  Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider
hiring a researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships
lists leaving the Azores.   A list of researchers for hire can be found
here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researcher
s

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Genealogy]

Hi Jacki,
You might want to look at arrivals from Providence, R.I. My family, 
paternal and maternal, arrived from Terceira in Providence, also took 
the train to Gustine, CA.

Joaquin Mendonça


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[Cheri Mello]

Jacki,

You will need to check the Boston arrivals as well as the Ellis Island
arrivals.  More info on how to do that can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
(Scroll down to "Passenger Arrival Lists.")

Records from the Azores are starting to come online, but nothing from Faial
yet.  Once you exhaust your U.S. sources, you might consider hiring a
researcher to look at the port of Horta, Faial, in their ships lists leaving
the Azores.   A list of researchers for hire can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html#researchers

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records

[Jacki]

Hi,  I am new to the group. I am hoping that someone can point me in
the right direction. My grandfather, Jose A. Medeiros (1898-1979) came
to the US from Faial when he was about 7. I only know that they came
into the Boston area and then traveled by train to the west coast. How
do I, or where can I, find the ship that they came on?

Ultimately, I am trying to find out what village they were from on
Faial.

Jacki

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