RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization
www.ancestry.com has a way to list all the various spellings of the person in the record. You do have to select one name that is the preferred name. I've seen in old census records where people were listed with their initials, nicknames, first names, middle names and spelling errors in different census records. This is especially evident in my Southern ancestors in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. Keeping track of all the various spellings helps the ancestry.com computer to search for all those varieties. Posting all the various name spellings has, more than once, helped me find an important additional record for my genealogy research. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:28:07 -0400 Cheri is right about which program you use. When I do a file/data base and standardize names I create a fact recording exactly how the name was written in the record. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Hi Jesse, I guess it depends. Depending on your genealogy program, you might be able to store one as a main name and the other as a nickname and have both names come up. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization
Alternate spellings of names, especially surnames are a pet peave of mine. Rick, I agree with you a 100 percent. In my genealogy program database, I spell surnames as they were spelled during the persons lifetime, and more specifically at the time of the person's death. When requesting a record of a long dead ancestor from one of the Azorean Archives (Horta in my case), it absolutely infuriates me when they send an abstract and use the modern spelling of the surname, when the original record (which I have seen) has the original spelling. I feel like suing them for falsifying documents!! Example:My father's last name was spelled Vasconcellos when he immigrated to this country in 1909 according to the record on the ships's list on the Ellis Island web site. Somewhere along the line, the spelling got updated to Vasconcelos which is the modern spelling.* My theory: *When he went back to Flores to marry my mother in 1928, he was not yet a US citizen, so he had to renew his Portuguese passport. The Portuguese beaurocrat who processed his passport renewal application must have decided to correct the spelling of my father's last name to the modern spelling. I have first and second cousins in both New Bedford and here in California who still spell it the old way (Vasconcellos) because their ancestors immigrated before 1910 and became citizens of the US. (From what I understand, 1910 is about the time double letters were eliminated from the Portuguese language. If anyone, knows the full story and true date, I would be interested in learning it.) A half-brother of my father of my father immigrated to New Bedford in the late 1890's and all his decendants spell the name Vasconcellos. Another example in my family is Corvello/Corvelo My mother's second cousin, Captain Antonio Caetano Corvello immigrated to New Bedford, Mass in the 1890's where he became a whaling Captain. I have cousins who still live on Flores who spell the name Corvelo. I rest my case. This little known fact can be an aid in dating the arrival of your ancestors in the US. Vasconcellos/Vasconcelos, Corvello/Corvelo, Mello/Melo, et infinitum. Goes for first names too: Anna/Ana for one. My mother's maiden name was Anna de Freitas Corvello after she married my father her name became Ana Freitas Vasconcelos. I think I've exhausted that subject. Regards, John Vasconcelos On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:21 PM, rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jesse, It would depend on what you want to do with the data base. If I were doing a tree to show my family then I use actual names as they were spelled at the time. If I were doing a searchable data base (which I am) then I standardize spelling with some exceptions. A good example is the one you give I treat Helena and Elena separately but others like Mello and Melo are all spelled Mello. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Pacheco Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:04 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Hi I was wondering if there was a general consensus on what to do with names with variations/different spellings (this is almost all of them!). For example, I have a Helena in my tree and I also have an Elena. I know these are technically the same name but the spellings have been different. Do these spellings reflect the priest who wrote the records or how the people in question actually wanted their name spelled? If it is all based on the priest I will start adopting standardized spellings for the sake of organization. Just looking for some opinions/information on this! Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List,
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization
Hi Jesse, It would depend on what you want to do with the data base. If I were doing a tree to show my family then I use actual names as they were spelled at the time. If I were doing a searchable data base (which I am) then I standardize spelling with some exceptions. A good example is the one you give I treat Helena and Elena separately but others like Mello and Melo are all spelled Mello. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Pacheco Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 3:04 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Hi I was wondering if there was a general consensus on what to do with names with variations/different spellings (this is almost all of them!). For example, I have a Helena in my tree and I also have an Elena. I know these are technically the same name but the spellings have been different. Do these spellings reflect the priest who wrote the records or how the people in question actually wanted their name spelled? If it is all based on the priest I will start adopting standardized spellings for the sake of organization. Just looking for some opinions/information on this! Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization
Cheri is right about which program you use. When I do a file/data base and standardize names I create a fact recording exactly how the name was written in the record. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Hi Jesse, I guess it depends. Depending on your genealogy program, you might be able to store one as a main name and the other as a nickname and have both names come up. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization
Besides the variations in the spelling, sometimes there are also mistakes. In my program (and possibly in yours) there is also known as and there I put the variation or mistaken name and the year found as such. You can also put it in the notes for that person. That has helped me with verifying or confirming that someone is who I think they are. Original Message - From: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:04:29 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Spelling Standardization Hi I was wondering if there was a general consensus on what to do with names with variations/different spellings (this is almost all of them!). For example, I have a Helena in my tree and I also have an Elena. I know these are technically the same name but the spellings have been different. Do these spellings reflect the priest who wrote the records or how the people in question actually wanted their name spelled? If it is all based on the priest I will start adopting standardized spellings for the sake of organization. Just looking for some opinions/information on this! Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
