RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, Sam, for the offer to help me. My version of FTM (16) does not have "Publish" on it. Right now, I am dealing with a health issue so my mind is not focused on my computer. Thanks again, Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Mon, 8/8/16, 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" Date: Monday, August 8, 2016, 5:18 PM #yiv8310618127 #yiv8310618127 -- _filtered #yiv8310618127 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8310618127 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv8310618127 #yiv8310618127 p.yiv8310618127MsoNormal, #yiv8310618127 li.yiv8310618127MsoNormal, #yiv8310618127 div.yiv8310618127MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;} #yiv8310618127 a:link, #yiv8310618127 span.yiv8310618127MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv8310618127 a:visited, #yiv8310618127 span.yiv8310618127MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv8310618127 .yiv8310618127MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv8310618127 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv8310618127 div.yiv8310618127WordSection1 {} #yiv8310618127 If it doesn’t work, let me know where you run in to trouble. Maybe, I’ll be able to help. Good luck. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 10:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo Thank you, Sam. I use FTM 16 and will give your suggestion a try. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 8:11 PM Celeste; Not sure what version of FTM you have but; on mine here is how to do it. 1. Open FTM 2. Click on “people” at the top of the page 3. Go to the person you want to make the family group sheet for 4. Click on “Publish” at the top of the page 5. Under “Publication Types” scroll down until “Relationships Report” is highlighted. 6. Double click on “Family Group Sheet” On the right you can check various boxes depending on what you want included. Once you have the report the way you want it go to the upper right hand corner and click on the far right icon (share). Choose “export as pdf” When the window pops up fill in whatever you want or fill in nothing and click on “ok”. In the window that opens make sure the top address field says This PC > Desktop; then in the bottom address bar name your file or just leave what is automatically filled in, just be sure you will remember what it is called and click on “Save” . Next: 1. Open your email program and fill in who the email is going to and the subject. 2. At the top of the page on the left, hopefully, it says “insert”. Click on it. 3. There should be a paperclip icon or perhaps on your email program maybe it says “attachment” or some abbreviation of attachment. Click on it. It should open a window. Make sure at the top of that window it shows the word “desktop”. If it does not, scroll on the left until you see “Desktop” and highlight it. 3. Scroll down until you see the name of the pdf you just created. 4. Click on it. 5. The pdf title should now show in the lower address bar. 6. Click on “open”. Your pdf file should now be attached to your email. Just click “send” and you’ve done it. Hope this helps, Sam Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To u
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
If it doesn’t work, let me know where you run in to trouble. Maybe, I’ll be able to help. Good luck. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thank you, Sam. I use FTM 16 and will give your suggestion a try. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, 'Sam Koester' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 8:11 PM Celeste; Not sure what version of FTM you have but; on mine here is how to do it. 1. Open FTM 2. Click on “people” at the top of the page 3. Go to the person you want to make the family group sheet for 4. Click on “Publish” at the top of the page 5. Under “Publication Types” scroll down until “Relationships Report” is highlighted. 6. Double click on “Family Group Sheet” On the right you can check various boxes depending on what you want included. Once you have the report the way you want it go to the upper right hand corner and click on the far right icon (share). Choose “export as pdf” When the window pops up fill in whatever you want or fill in nothing and click on “ok”. In the window that opens make sure the top address field says This PC > Desktop; then in the bottom address bar name your file or just leave what is automatically filled in, just be sure you will remember what it is called and click on “Save” . Next: 1. Open your email program and fill in who the email is going to and the subject. 2. At the top of the page on the left, hopefully, it says “insert”. Click on it. 3. There should be a paperclip icon or perhaps on your email program maybe it says “attachment” or some abbreviation of attachment. Click on it. It should open a window. Make sure at the top of that window it shows the word “desktop”. If it does not, scroll on the left until you see “Desktop” and highlight it. 3. Scroll down until you see the name of the pdf you just created. 4. Click on it. 5. The pdf title should now show in the lower address bar. 6. Click on “open”. Your pdf file should now be attached to your email. Just click “send” and you’ve done it. Hope this helps, Sam Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Júlio, Descendo de José Botelho filho de Manuel Botelho e Mariana Jacinta. Essa é a linha dos Botelhos da minha mãe. Manoel César Furtado Em sábado, 6 de agosto de 2016 18:12:06 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu: > > José Tavares Pimentel Coentro dever ter casado a Primeira Vez com Maria da > Esperança Silva a 10 Feb 1817 na beira Seca e mais tarde deve ter casado a > Segunda Vez talvez no Rosário da Lagoa com Maria Joaquina que nasceu como > diz no registo de Batismo de sua Filha Jacinta Libânia > > Alias batizarem duas com o mesmo nome > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P22.html >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html >> >> > *1. Maria Joaquina [58879]*, daughter of *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] and > *Mariana > Jacinta* [49434], was born about 1813 in Rosário, Lagoa. > > Maria married *José Tavares de Pimentel COENTRO* [58857] 1 [MRIN: 28050], > son of *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COENTRO* [58883] 1 and *Ana de São Pedro > TAVARES* [58884],1 in 1840 in Lagoa. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *Jacinta* [58885] was born on 23 Mar 1842 in Santa Bárbara, > Ribeira Grande, was christened on 9 Apr 1842 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira > Grande, and died before 1843. > ii. *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] was born on 22 Jul 1843 in Santa > Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. > Second Generation (Parents) > -- > > *2. Manuel BOTELHO [49433]*, son of *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] and *Mariana > Francisca* [49423], was born on 3 May 1788 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > Manuel married *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in > Rosário, Lagoa. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *José BOTELHO* [49437] > > 1ii. *Maria Joaquina* [58879] > > *3. Mariana Jacinta [49434]*, daughter of *Narciso José* [49435] and *Antónia > da Trindade* [49436], was born on 6 Apr 1794 in Rosário, Lagoa. > Mariana married *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in > Rosário, Lagoa. > > Third Generation (Grandparents) > -- > > *4. Martinho BOTELHO [49422]*, son of *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] and *Antónia > de MEDEIROS* [49426], was born on 19 Feb 1762 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada > and died on 8 Dec 1792 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 30. > > Martinho married *Mariana Francisca* [49423] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 > in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *Barbara Jacinta* [49421] > > 2ii. *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] > > *5. Mariana Francisca [49423]* was born on 27 Jun 1764 in Agua de Pau and > died on 15 Jan 1820 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 55. > > Mariana married *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 in > São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *6. Narciso José [49435]* . > > Narciso married *Antónia da Trindade* [49436] [MRIN: 23369]. > > *The child from this marriage was:* > > 3 i. *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] > > *7. Antónia da Trindade [49436]* . > > Antónia married *Narciso José* [49435] [MRIN: 23369]. > > Fourth Generation (Great-Grand > > *8. Manuel BOTELHO [57246]*, son of *Alvaro do COUTO* [57247] 1 and *Barbara > De SOUSA* [57248], was born on 3 Dec 1701 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada and > died on 16 Dec 1774 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 73. > > Manuel married *Luisa da CUNHA* [57245] [MRIN: 27249], daughter of *Manuel > de Sousa TAVARES* [57224] and *Isabel da CUNHA* [57223], on 20 Mar 1725 > in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > Manuel next married *Antónia de MEDEIROS* [49426] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug > 1758 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *The child from this marriage was:* > > 4 i. *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] > > *9. Antónia de MEDEIROS [49426]* was born on 24 Nov 1722 in Agua de Pau > and died on 1 Jan 1799 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 76. > > Antónia married *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 1758 in > São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > > > >> >>> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste; Not sure what version of FTM you have but; on mine here is how to do it. 1. Open FTM 2. Click on “people” at the top of the page 3. Go to the person you want to make the family group sheet for 4. Click on “Publish” at the top of the page 5. Under “Publication Types” scroll down until “Relationships Report” is highlighted. 6. Double click on “Family Group Sheet” On the right you can check various boxes depending on what you want included. Once you have the report the way you want it go to the upper right hand corner and click on the far right icon (share). Choose “export as pdf” When the window pops up fill in whatever you want or fill in nothing and click on “ok”. In the window that opens make sure the top address field says This PC > Desktop; then in the bottom address bar name your file or just leave what is automatically filled in, just be sure you will remember what it is called and click on “Save” . Next: 1. Open your email program and fill in who the email is going to and the subject. 2. At the top of the page on the left, hopefully, it says “insert”. Click on it. 3. There should be a paperclip icon or perhaps on your email program maybe it says “attachment” or some abbreviation of attachment. Click on it. It should open a window. Make sure at the top of that window it shows the word “desktop”. If it does not, scroll on the left until you see “Desktop” and highlight it. 3. Scroll down until you see the name of the pdf you just created. 4. Click on it. 5. The pdf title should now show in the lower address bar. 6. Click on “open”. Your pdf file should now be attached to your email. Just click “send” and you’ve done it. Hope this helps, Sam Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, again, Cheri. I will give it a try. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 2:05 PM Celeste, Someone who is a FTM user will have to tell you. In most genealogy programs there is REPORT(s) that you click on (to make a report) and then one of the choices should be Family Group Sheet. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
wrote to me a while ago was that >> is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the >> margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form >> that was filled out by someone at the church. >> > >> > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the >> church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin >> and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's >> allows us to make that trip soon. >> > >> > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a >> lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name >> Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to >> finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the >> family she thught was hers. >> > >> > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. >> > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: >> > >> > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo >> > To: "Azores Genealogy" >> > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM >> > >> > Hi Celeste, >> > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande >> > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 >> > >> > I'm guessing >> > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that >> > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 >> > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they >> > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but >> > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and >> > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the >> > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a >> > couple years (when they had their next kid). >> > >> > Where did the >> > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? >> > >> > Also, you >> > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose >> > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim >> > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and >> > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless >> > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a >> > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add >> > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one >> > was from the other one. >> > >> > Cheri >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or >> > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and >> > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. >> > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join >> > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> > membership." >> > >> > --- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >> > from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste, Someone who is a FTM user will have to tell you. In most genealogy programs there is REPORT(s) that you click on (to make a report) and then one of the choices should be Family Group Sheet. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Once again, Cheri, my limited skill with a computer makes doing what you suggest impossible for me. I use FTM and have yahoo mail. Maybe someone can talk me through the process to get it into an attachment for the email. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:43 PM 1) Do you have a family group sheet for Joao Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libianna that you can make your genealogy program spit out and attach to the email? 2) Joao or his parents are from Agua de Pau. Maybe they had to go there for some reason in the 1880s and your Maria was baptized there instead. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, Cheri, for the possible lead. In 2009 when I spent a week at the archives in Ponta Delgada, I look in Agua do Pau and all the villages that surround Lomba da Santa Barbara thinking the same thing you mention. I did not find any lead I could follow. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:43 PM 1) Do you have a family group sheet for Joao Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libianna that you can make your genealogy program spit out and attach to the email? 2) Joao or his parents are from Agua de Pau. Maybe they had to go there for some reason in the 1880s and your Maria was baptized there instead. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
The oral info. I received from her daughter before she died was that her mother, Maria Christo, was born May 22, 1885, in Lomba da Santa Barbara. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 9:13 PM All the information was oral and from her daughter. She told me that her mother was born May, 1885. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:54 PM Was her birthdate in May of 1885/6 and was she born in S.Barbara or Agua de Pau? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: Hi Celeste, I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa Barbara of Ribeira Grande. Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and passports. Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages..He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, RI. The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were looking for the wrong parents. The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who arrived with Serafim in 1904. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- ------ On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
The marriage took place at St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI on Nov. 27, 1909. I am interested to know if there are any "margin notes" that list where Maria Christo was baptized. It is my understanding that the information I have from the church is what was filled out in a "form" and not necessarily what note may have been made by the priest to tell where she was baptized. Thank you for your interest in my hung. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Liz Migliori wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 9:09 PM Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -------------------- > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, Julio for the information. What I am trying to do is find Maria Christo's baptism record to confirm her being a biological member of this family. Thanks for your input. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Júlio wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 10:05 AM Hi Celeste this is a fast search that I do. and find this information: Ancestors of Maria de Cristo MORAIS First Generation 1. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266], daughter of João Morais da COSTA [58855] and Jacinta Libânia [58856], was born on 22 May 1885 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande and died on 7 Sep 1970 in California at age 85. Second Generation (Parents) 2. João Morais da COSTA [58855], son of Francisco Morais da COSTA [58853] and Ana de Jesus [58854], was born on 5 Oct 1849 in Agua de Pau and died on 13 Apr 1899 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande at age 49. João married Jacinta Libânia [58856] [MRIN: 28037] on 10 Nov 1867 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. Marriage Notes: Assento 11 Children from this marriage were: i. Serafim MORAIS [36272] was born in 1880. ii. Ana de Jesus MORAIS [36267] was born in 1882. 1 iii. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266] sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu:Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > ---------- ---------- > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Yes, Cheri, that is my hope; to find her birth/baptism record that connects her to her biological family. I have received info. from Margaret Vicente that says she was the daughter of Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais. This is all new to me. Margaret also says that she arrived in the US in 1904 with Serafim (whom I thought was her brother) and she is listed as a niece on the manifest. Another thing I did not consider. Margaret says there is more than one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara (Sao Miguel) and that they are cousins. My head is spinning and I will need the time to try to figure out this new information. I was not sure when Maria Cristo arrived in the US; I know and have a copy of the record that she married Filippe P. Da Silva at St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI on Nov. 27, 1909. Book 6, page 45. She said she was 22 years of age; born May 22, 1909, and that here parents were John Moraes and Jacintha Tavares. If there anyone who can clarify any of this new information, your input is greatly appreciated. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 10:57 AM I thought Celeste was after the actual baptism of Maria Cristo. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
I thought Celeste was after the actual baptism of Maria Cristo. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Here is the birth of jacinta Libânia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu: > > Celeste > > I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do > you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao > Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I > did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have > any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to > RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his > Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him > for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that > was filled out by someone at the church. > > > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the > church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin > and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's > allows us to make that trip soon. > > > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a > lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name > Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to > finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the > family she thught was hers. > > > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > > > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > > > Hi Celeste, > > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > > > I'm guessing > > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > > > Where did the > > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > > > Also, you > > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > > was from the other one. > > > > Cheri > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership." > > > > --- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Hi Celeste this is a fast search that I do. and find this information: Ancestors of Maria de Cristo MORAIS -- First Generation -- -- *1. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266]*, daughter of *João Morais da COSTA* [58855] and *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] , was born on 22 May 1885 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande and died on 7 Sep 1970 in California at age 85. Second Generation (Parents) -- *2. João Morais da COSTA [58855]*, son of *Francisco Morais da COSTA* [58853] and *Ana de Jesus* [58854] , was born on 5 Oct 1849 in Agua de Pau and died on 13 Apr 1899 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande at age 49. João married *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] [MRIN: 28037] on 10 Nov 1867 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. Marriage Notes: Assento 11 *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Serafim MORAIS* [36272] was born in 1880. ii. *Ana de Jesus MORAIS* [36267] was born in 1882. 1 iii. *Maria de Cristo MORAIS* [36266] sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu: > > Celeste > > I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do > you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao > Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I > did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have > any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to > RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his > Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him > for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that > was filled out by someone at the church. > > > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the > church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin > and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's > allows us to make that trip soon. > > > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a > lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name > Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to > finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the > family she thught was hers. > > > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > > > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > > > Hi Celeste, > > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > > > I'm guessing > > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > > > Where did the > > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > > > Also, you > > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > > was from the other one. > > > > Cheri > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest,
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, > died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not > find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any > wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If > they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose > was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a > number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was > filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church > to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was > not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to > make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of > new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha > Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if > the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she > thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > -------- > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
All the information was oral and from her daughter. She told me that her mother was born May, 1885. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:54 PM Was her birthdate in May of 1885/6 and was she born in S.Barbara or Agua de Pau? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: Hi Celeste, I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa Barbara of Ribeira Grande. Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and passports. Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages..He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, RI. The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were looking for the wrong parents. The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who arrived with Serafim in 1904. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- ---------- On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? Also, you could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one was from the other one. Cheri
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Was her birthdate in May of 1885/6 and was she born in S.Barbara or Agua de Pau? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Hi Celeste, > > I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more > then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de > Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. > > Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was > deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children > for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa > Barbara of Ribeira Grande. > > Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. > > Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. > > Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and > passports. > Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. > On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. > Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages.. > He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't > be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, > RI. > The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were > looking for the wrong parents. > The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and > as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who > arrived with Serafim in 1904. > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao >> Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I >> did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have >> any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to >> RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. >> >> Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his >> Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him >> for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a >> possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin >> of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that >> was filled out by someone at the church. >> >> I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the >> church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin >> and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's >> allows us to make that trip soon. >> >> My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot >> of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name >> Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to >> finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the >> family she thught was hers. >> >> Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. >> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com >> >> >> On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo >> To: "Azores Genealogy" >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM >> >> Hi Celeste, >> Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande >> is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 >> >> I'm guessing >> you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that >> wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 >> years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they >> baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but >> it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and >> they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the >> middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a >> couple years (when they had their next kid). >> >> Where did the >> great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? >> >> Also, you >> could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose >> test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim >> test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and >> should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless >> you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a >> Santa Barbara in Pont
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Hi Celeste, I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa Barbara of Ribeira Grande. Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and passports. Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages.. He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, RI. The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were looking for the wrong parents. The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who arrived with Serafim in 1904. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao > Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I > did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have > any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to > RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his > Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him > for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that > was filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the > church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin > and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's > allows us to make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot > of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name > Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to > finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the > family she thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" gr
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
1) Do you have a family group sheet for Joao Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libianna that you can make your genealogy program spit out and attach to the email? 2) Joao or his parents are from Agua de Pau. Maybe they had to go there for some reason in the 1880s and your Maria was baptized there instead. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? Also, you could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one was from the other one. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Hi JR, I looked at the church books in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, and found the marriage of Joao Moraes on Nov. 10, 1867. There were 3 children born that died young and then in 1881, an Ana who also moved to RI. When she died she left in her will "100.00 to my sister, Mary Perry, in Oakland, CA." That fits it being her sister Maria who married Filipe Perry, and lived in Oakland, CA. I also found a Seraphine born in 1882 to these same parents and his being the first to immigrate to RI. The last one I found was a Jose, born in 1883, and I have communicated with a descendent of his that told me Jose had a sister that was Mary and her married last name was Perry. Joao (the father) died in 1889. Maria's daughter told me that her mother was born when her father was 5 years old. Thus, the 1885 date for her birth made sense. I looked at every Maria born during that time with a mother named, Jacintha Libiana. That name gave me a better chance to find her. I found nothing. I thought maybe she had been born while her mother was visiting another village. I searched for the same information in ALL the villages that border Lomba da Santa Barbara. (By the name it is no longer called "Lomba" it is just Santa Barbara. Again I found nothing that matched the information I had. In addition to my searching, Joao Ventura has looked at the records and thinks that the priest just did not record her baptism. (or, as Cheri often says, the priest could have had "too much vinho" and forgot to records it. Again, any ideas you can offer are greatly appreciated. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, JR wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 4:48 PM There are at least three Santa Barbara's. Two on Sao Miguel and one on Ilha de Santa Maria. Saa Miguel has one above Ribeira Seca (Ribeira Grande) and another west of Santo Antonio. JR On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 6:41:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? Also, you could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one was from the other one. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
There are at least three Santa Barbara's. Two on Sao Miguel and one on Ilha de Santa Maria. Saa Miguel has one above Ribeira Seca (Ribeira Grande) and another west of Santo Antonio. JR On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 6:41:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't > baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen > a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather > unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they > had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and > didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim test. It's on > sale. You all should match each other and should match others of the > Ribeira Grande region - unless you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. > There's a Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add on > "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one was from the other one. > > Cheri > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? Also, you could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one was from the other one. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.