Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports from Sao Jorge

2012-10-14 Thread Diane
 
Thanks Fred
 
That bit about crossing the equator and the payment for a burial rings a 
bell with me now. My Grandmother used to tell me something similar but she 
also told me lots of things that have turned out to be wrong. I thought 
there might be something specific to the Azores about boys wearing 
earrings. 
 
 
Diane Donnon
 

On Saturday, 13 October 2012 11:49:20 UTC+10:30, Fred Souza wrote:

 Here is a description of the gold earring custom which has been around a 
 very long time.  (wixapedia)

 Earrings became fashionable among courtiers and gentlemen in the 1590s 
 during the English Renaissance. A document published in 1577 by clergyman 
 William 
 Harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Harrison_(clergyman), 
 *Description 
 of England*, states Some lusty courtiers and gentlemen of courage do 
 wear either rings of gold, stones or pearls in their 
 ears.[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earring#cite_note-0
  Among sailors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor, a pierced earlobe 
 was a symbol that the wearer had sailed around the world or had crossed the 
 equator.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earring#cite_note-1 In 
 addition, it is commonly held[*citation 
 neededhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed
 *] that a gold earring was worn by sailors in payment for a proper burial 
 in the event that they might drown at sea. Should their bodies have been 
 washed up on shore, it was hoped that the earring would serve as payment 
 for a proper *Christian* burial. Regardless of this expression, the 
 practice predates Christianity and can be traced back as far as ancient 
 Greece http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece where the gold paid 
 the ferryman, Charon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(mythology), 
 to provide passage across the river Styxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styx
  to Hades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades.

 On Oct 12, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Hi Diane D,

 No, I don't know anything about gold earrings indicating someone was 
 working as a sailor.

 Sorry,
 Cheri Mello
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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports from Sao Jorge

2012-10-12 Thread Diane
Hi Cheri
 
Thank you for all that information. I have read how the American whaling 
industry gave young Azorean men the opportunity of joining a boat and 
leaving the islands, thus avoiding mandatory military service at that time. 
(circa 1870). As I cannot find any record of his arrival in Australia I 
think he was not official.
Is it possible therefore that he would not appear on any ship's list for 
leaving or arriving?  I will keep looking at those links you sent.
 
Another clue (maybe) is that he wore a gold earring (I have a photo of him 
and this is true) and my family said that this meant that he was working as 
a sailor and had gone around the Cape. Do you know anything about that? 
 
Diane Donnon

On Friday, 12 October 2012 10:27:17 UTC+10:30, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Diane D,

 Here is what exists at the 3 archives for the Azorean Passaportes 
 (emigration OUT of the Azores)  Someday, they will all be online at the 
 CCA 
 web site: 

 *District archive of Horta*: 1836-1939; since 1856 they are indexed and 
 give 
 the towns or parishes of birth. 
 *District archive of Angra do Heroismo*: 1775-1818, 1844-1845, 1857-1924. 

  *District archive of Ponta Delgada*: Arquivo do Governo Civil (in the 
 Biblioteca).  Livros de registo de passaportes. (Books of Passport 
 Registry) 
 Existing: 1875 May-1883 Oct; 1894 Nov - 1908 Oct; 1910 Jan-1920 Jan; 1922 
 Sep-1939 Dec; 1950 Feb-1953 Mar. 

 I'm not sure if the closer port to Sao Jorge island would be Horta on 
 Faial or Angra on Terceira.  BUT if someone went to Hawaii, they left out 
 of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel.  This is for PASSENGERS.  I think a lot of 
 the whalemen were from Pico and Faial.

 Check Ponta Delgada (online at the CCA site: 
 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx

 Check the New Bedford Public Library's Whaling Archives:
 http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/Library/Whaling/Whaling.html

 There's the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogical Society.  They have ship 
 lists' that are in bound as well as family group sheets and family 
 histories submitted by members.  The contact is Dan Nelson or George 
 Nelson.  He goes by both names, I guess.  I believe he's on this list.  
 Maybe he'll answer you.

 I'm sure others have ideas too.
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports from Sao Jorge

2012-10-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Diane D,

No, I don't know anything about gold earrings indicating someone was
working as a sailor.

Sorry,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports from Sao Jorge

2012-10-11 Thread Cheri Mello
Diane D,

Here is what exists at the 3 archives for the Azorean Passaportes
(emigration OUT of the Azores)  Someday, they will all be online at the CCA
web site:

*District archive of Horta*: 1836-1939; since 1856 they are indexed and
give
the towns or parishes of birth.
*District archive of Angra do Heroismo*: 1775-1818, 1844-1845, 1857-1924.

 *District archive of Ponta Delgada*: Arquivo do Governo Civil (in the
Biblioteca).  Livros de registo de passaportes. (Books of Passport
Registry)
Existing: 1875 May-1883 Oct; 1894 Nov - 1908 Oct; 1910 Jan-1920 Jan; 1922
Sep-1939 Dec; 1950 Feb-1953 Mar.

I'm not sure if the closer port to Sao Jorge island would be Horta on Faial
or Angra on Terceira.  BUT if someone went to Hawaii, they left out of
Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel.  This is for PASSENGERS.  I think a lot of the
whalemen were from Pico and Faial.

Check Ponta Delgada (online at the CCA site:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx

Check the New Bedford Public Library's Whaling Archives:
http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/Library/Whaling/Whaling.html

There's the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogical Society.  They have ship
lists' that are in bound as well as family group sheets and family
histories submitted by members.  The contact is Dan Nelson or George
Nelson.  He goes by both names, I guess.  I believe he's on this list.
Maybe he'll answer you.

I'm sure others have ideas too.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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