Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
Hi John, Yes, Mary Martins, was Msgn. Martin's niece. Mary has died. Her brother, is an attorney in Hayward, Ed. Martins. I believe he is still involved with the school for children in the village where Mary's parents were born. When Msgn. Martins died, Mary and Ed. began a day care and school for the children from the village of Ligares, Tras-os-Montes. This village is where my maternal grandfather was born. If you are interested in the center, it is now also a center for the seniors of the village, here is Ed's phone #. 510 537 3477. I do not know if he has email or not. Ligares is a very remote village almost to the Spanish border. I have visited there and I know I walked on the same rocks my grandfather did. The reason the school was build was that the working age residents left the village to find work in Cities and even other countries. In addition to the school, the center also cares for the seniors in need of care. I think if you contact Ed., he can give you all the information you want about the village. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Wed, 4/11/18, John Vasconcelos wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores To: "azores" Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018, 1:38 PM Celeste, I lived in the SF Bay area from about 1966 to 1975 while attending grad school at UC Berkeley. During that time, I got to know Mary Martins who was a co-parishinor at Holy Spirit Parish/Newman Center in Berkeley. A few years ago, she was listed in the Cal Alumni Magazine as involved in a school for children in mainland Portugal. I contacted her by email at that time and she said that she indeed had been involved in such an undertaking but I didn't ask for any details. She must be the niece. According to currently available information, she is 91 years old and a resident of San Francisco. Think I'll try to contact her for an update. John Vasconcelos. . On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:54 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Holly, my maternal grandfather was born in a very small village, Ligares, that is in Tras-os-Montes. The location is as Cheri posted. What I did was found a wall size map of the mainland of Portugal and that is the only place I could find Ligares. There are a lot of very small villages in those mountains. The only reason I was able to locate Ligares was that a day care center and now a senior facility was built there by monsignor Martins nephew and niece. Ligares does not have a school and the nuns that ran the daycare and now senior center taught the children to read. The first time I visited Ligares was in 1989. There were a lot of children and their grandparents in the village. The parents were working in distant cities and even distant countries because there was no work in the village (except picking almonds). The sister that ran the center told me that the kids were socially retarded because they only had the old people taking care of them. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- -- On Sun, 4/8/18, Holly Holden wrote: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018, 11:18 AM Great grandfather Domingos A Matias has the following listed as his place of birth. Trying to pinpoint exactly where and would like to know if these locations that I believe are on are the mainland are part of the azores. Boticas, Alturas Vilarinho Seco, Tras-os Montes, Portugal Any help is much appreciated, Holly Joaquin-Holden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/ group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/ group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
*Celeste,* *I lived in the SF Bay area from about 1966 to 1975 while attending grad school at UC Berkeley. During that time, I got to know Mary Martins who was a co-parishinor at Holy Spirit Parish/Newman Center in Berkeley. A few years ago, she was listed in the Cal Alumni Magazine as involved in a school for children in mainland Portugal. I contacted her by email at that time and she said that she indeed had been involved in such an undertaking but I didn't ask for any details. She must be the niece. According to currently available information, she is 91 years old and a resident of San Francisco. Think I'll try to contact her for an update.* *John Vasconcelos.* *. * On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:54 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Holly, my maternal grandfather was born in a very small village, Ligares, > that is in > Tras-os-Montes. The location is as Cheri posted. What I did was found a > wall size map of the mainland of Portugal and that is the only place I > could find Ligares. There are a lot of very small villages in those > mountains. The only reason I was able to locate Ligares was that a day > care center and now a senior facility was built there by monsignor Martins > nephew and niece. Ligares does not have a school and the nuns that ran the > daycare and now senior center taught the children to read. > > The first time I visited Ligares was in 1989. There were a lot of > children and their grandparents in the village. The parents were working > in distant cities and even distant countries because there was no work in > the village (except picking almonds). The sister that ran the center told > me that the kids were socially retarded because they only had the old > people taking care of them. > > Celeste > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Sun, 4/8/18, Holly Holden wrote: > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they > are part of azores > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018, 11:18 AM > > Great grandfather Domingos A Matias has the > following listed as his place of birth. Trying to > pinpoint exactly where and would like to know if these > locations that I believe are on are the mainland are part of > the azores. > > Boticas, Alturas Vilarinho Seco, > Tras-os Montes, Portugal > > Any help is much appreciated, > > Holly Joaquin-Holden > > -- > You received this message because you > are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" > group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop > receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@ > googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
The US equivalent of Tras os Montes is actually a state. And they've listed some of the information in the wrong order So: Tras os Montes=province where his village is found Boticas: municipality Vilarinho Seco: village Alturas was likely the specific neighborhood/street he lived on, but that's difficult to pinpoint without more information Google: Vilarinho Seco Boticas Select "images" and you'll see some *amazing* photos of what the village looks like today Sonia From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:38:56 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores Hi Holly, That's the mainland. Tras-os-Montes is probably somewhat like an American county, in the northeast corner of Portugal, next to Spain. The smaller location that you mention, I don't know anything about them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
Celeste, I too have visited and have relatives from Ligares! Perhaps we could explore any possible connections. My great-grandfather is buried in their small cemetery by the church. Many are in unmarked graves but his had his picture included. I also have a branch in Peredo, a small village down the road. I’d love to exchange information. c1memail-...@yahoo.com Carole > On Apr 8, 2018, at 2:54 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > > Holly, my maternal grandfather was born in a very small village, Ligares, > that is in > Tras-os-Montes. The location is as Cheri posted. What I did was found a > wall size map of the mainland of Portugal and that is the only place I could > find Ligares. There are a lot of very small villages in those mountains. > The only reason I was able to locate Ligares was that a day care center and > now a senior facility was built there by monsignor Martins nephew and niece. > Ligares does not have a school and the nuns that ran the daycare and now > senior center taught the children to read. > > The first time I visited Ligares was in 1989. There were a lot of children > and their grandparents in the village. The parents were working in distant > cities and even distant countries because there was no work in the village > (except picking almonds). The sister that ran the center told me that the > kids were socially retarded because they only had the old people taking care > of them. > > Celeste > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Sun, 4/8/18, Holly Holden wrote: > > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are > part of azores > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018, 11:18 AM > > Great grandfather Domingos A Matias has the > following listed as his place of birth. Trying to > pinpoint exactly where and would like to know if these > locations that I believe are on are the mainland are part of > the azores. > > Boticas, Alturas Vilarinho Seco, > Tras-os Montes, Portugal > > Any help is much appreciated, > > Holly Joaquin-Holden > > -- > You received this message because you > are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" > group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop > receiving emails from it, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
Holly, my maternal grandfather was born in a very small village, Ligares, that is in Tras-os-Montes. The location is as Cheri posted. What I did was found a wall size map of the mainland of Portugal and that is the only place I could find Ligares. There are a lot of very small villages in those mountains. The only reason I was able to locate Ligares was that a day care center and now a senior facility was built there by monsignor Martins nephew and niece. Ligares does not have a school and the nuns that ran the daycare and now senior center taught the children to read. The first time I visited Ligares was in 1989. There were a lot of children and their grandparents in the village. The parents were working in distant cities and even distant countries because there was no work in the village (except picking almonds). The sister that ran the center told me that the kids were socially retarded because they only had the old people taking care of them. Celeste Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sun, 4/8/18, Holly Holden wrote: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018, 11:18 AM Great grandfather Domingos A Matias has the following listed as his place of birth. Trying to pinpoint exactly where and would like to know if these locations that I believe are on are the mainland are part of the azores. Boticas, Alturas Vilarinho Seco, Tras-os Montes, Portugal Any help is much appreciated, Holly Joaquin-Holden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding towns of Portugal and if they are part of azores
Hi Holly, That's the mainland. Tras-os-Montes is probably somewhat like an American county, in the northeast corner of Portugal, next to Spain. The smaller location that you mention, I don't know anything about them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
