Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Pam which records would you like me to send links to Edward On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Pam Santos wrote: I am still getting errors on CCA site, if you send a link to an record I can view it. But other than I have not been able to view records for 2 days now. and yes I am very familar with Culturacores site. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Edward Rodrigues, edward.s.rodrigues at att.net Melinda, Hermano and Pam 1. do you know how to go on line to http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/default.aspx?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15 2. if you do I can give you instruction on how to go to different records that I found. they are all in Portuguese but you can still see the information. 3. If you want to call me, rather then do this on this site this offer goes to you Hermano and Pam too. Email me at edward.s.rodrigues at att.net and I will give you my phone number off list. 4. I can list the page number also for the records if you know how to transit the site. 5. I am still trying to make the connection to the your de Costa line and my De Costa line. Edward -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Well if you can access it, I need San Jose, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Obits before 1855. you will have to go into the actual records and send me the link then I can view them and thanks!!! On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net wrote: Pam which records would you like me to send links to Edward On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Pam Santos wrote: I am still getting errors on CCA site, if you send a link to an record I can view it. But other than I have not been able to view records for 2 days now. and yes I am very familar with Culturacores site. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Edward Rodrigues, edward.s.rodrigues at att.net Melinda, Hermano and Pam 1. do you know how to go on line to http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/default.aspx?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15 2. if you do I can give you instruction on how to go to different records that I found. they are all in Portuguese but you can still see the information. 3. If you want to call me, rather then do this on this site this offer goes to you Hermano and Pam too. Email me at edward.s.rodrigues at att.net and I will give you my phone number off list. 4. I can list the page number also for the records if you know how to transit the site. 5. I am still trying to make the connection to the your de Costa line and my De Costa line. Edward -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Pam no luck keep getting the same message 404 - File or directory not found. The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Edward On Oct 20, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Pam Santos wrote: Well if you can access it, I need San Jose, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Obits before 1855. you will have to go into the actual records and send me the link then I can view them and thanks!!! On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net wrote: Pam which records would you like me to send links to Edward On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Pam Santos wrote: I am still getting errors on CCA site, if you send a link to an record I can view it. But other than I have not been able to view records for 2 days now. and yes I am very familar with Culturacores site. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Edward Rodrigues, edward.s.rodrigues at att.net Melinda, Hermano and Pam 1. do you know how to go on line to http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/default.aspx?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15 2. if you do I can give you instruction on how to go to different records that I found. they are all in Portuguese but you can still see the information. 3. If you want to call me, rather then do this on this site this offer goes to you Hermano and Pam too. Email me at edward.s.rodrigues at att.net and I will give you my phone number off list. 4. I can list the page number also for the records if you know how to transit the site. 5. I am still trying to make the connection to the your de Costa line and my De Costa line. Edward -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Melinda I found a obit for a Maria that was 22 years of age at time of death in April 1883 I am trying to figure if this is the daughter that committed suicide http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889_item1/P130.html I am trying to see if the Maria born in 4 June 1862 was the same girl. since Luiz Pereira Lopes married in Sept 1861. What is your take on this? Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Melinda Lopes wrote: Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down. Thanks for the help. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Will keep you informed as we progress On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: You guys are moving too fast for me :)) Was busy trying to tie loose ends. Will get back to this. Hermano From: melinda_lo...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:11:18 -0500 Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down. Thanks for the help. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Pam I just found that record also and I believe it is Elvira Edward On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Pam Santos wrote: I would check the date of Sep 24, 1884, she had a child that died on that date, But I can't make out the name On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Melinda Lopes melinda_lo...@hotmail.com wrote: Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down. Thanks for the help. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Hello Melinda. Maria Candida (Luisa) is my 3rd cousin 3X removed. Although I haven't keyed into this family because I lost track of them and for its distanceness, I would never the less love to ketch up on them by whatever means you would care to share. Conversely I would do the same. Let me know, cousin :)) Hermano From: melinda_lo...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:11:18 -0500 Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down.Thanks for the help.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com MariaI have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883Elvira 1867Luiz 1870-1943Joao 1873Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this.I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children.Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Edward Because of the distance of relationship before you got us into this the only information I had came from Maria Moore. So far I from what I have seen it seems that Maria Luisa and Maria Candida and Maria de Jesus could be the same person for they have the same parents. I intend to persue this. Would love to have what you may care to share on this line past Luis and Maria Luisa (Candida, de Jesus). Conversely I will be only too glad to share whatever you think you would like to have from me. Good to me you, cousin :)) Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down.Thanks for the help.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com MariaI have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883Elvira 1867Luiz 1870-1943Joao 1873Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this.I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children.Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade CheriThe reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record.I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego.Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
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Edward et al, I wrote to Manoel Cesar and he responded as follows: Maria Luiza who married to Luiz Pereira Lopes on 2 sep 1861, in Rosario - Lagoa, is the same Maria Candido do Rego or Maria de Jesus, as stated on the baptism records. It is common at this time, sometimes a Maria de Jesus goes by Maria da Conceição in one record, or Maria dos Anjos in another one, etc. It is complicated, but the first name Maria never changes. All we have to do is to look for all the baptisms for the siblings and see if the names of the parents and grandparents are the same. In this case your Maria goes by the names: Maria Candida do Rego, Maria Luiza and Maria de Jesus. So, there is just one Luiz Pereira Lopes. I would appreciate any citations you have for Maria (all of her last names) and Luiz Pereira Lopes or their descendants. Manoel has generously located the records for Luiz' ancestors but I only have detailed information about the descendants of my grandfather, Jose born on February 5, 1877. It sounds like I might be related to Hermano C. Pires and others. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:43:12 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Will keep you informed as we progress On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:You guys are moving too fast for me :)) Was busy trying to tie loose ends. Will get back to this. Hermano From: melinda_lo...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:11:18 -0500 Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down.Thanks for the help.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Repost for Edward Rodrigues, edward.s.rodrigues at att.net Melinda, Hermano and Pam 1. do you know how to go on line to http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/default.aspx?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15 2. if you do I can give you instruction on how to go to different records that I found. they are all in Portuguese but you can still see the information. 3. If you want to call me, rather then do this on this site this offer goes to you Hermano and Pam too. Email me at edward.s.rodrigues at att.net and I will give you my phone number off list. 4. I can list the page number also for the records if you know how to transit the site. 5. I am still trying to make the connection to the your de Costa line and my De Costa line. Edward -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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I am still getting errors on CCA site, if you send a link to an record I can view it. But other than I have not been able to view records for 2 days now. and yes I am very familar with Culturacores site. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Edward Rodrigues, edward.s.rodrigues at att.net Melinda, Hermano and Pam 1. do you know how to go on line to http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/default.aspx?serie=0ilha=2concelho=15 2. if you do I can give you instruction on how to go to different records that I found. they are all in Portuguese but you can still see the information. 3. If you want to call me, rather then do this on this site this offer goes to you Hermano and Pam too. Email me at edward.s.rodrigues at att.netand I will give you my phone number off list. 4. I can list the page number also for the records if you know how to transit the site. 5. I am still trying to make the connection to the your de Costa line and my De Costa line. Edward -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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- Original Message - From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:55:57 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade I would like to ask the group help in translating this record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889_item1/P130.html Rosário, Óbitos 1880-1889 1883 0012 I have this family in my file... and so does Hermano Pires So far I understand that 11 April 1883 at 11 PM (numa das casas do lugar da Atalhada) Rosario parish Villa of Lagoa Maria da Trindade (died after receiving the last sacraments. 22 years of age legal daughter Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus. buried in public cemetery. Not sure if Maria de Jesus is the natural mother (legal daughter of both) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore - Original Message - From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Marie I found what I believe is the baptism record for Maria de Trindade but my Portuguese is at the beginners level. I would very much like to get in contact with you and Hermano Pires to compare records and notes. I believe where I see Luiz Pereira Lopes and his wife Maria Candida do Rego in the record dated 2 Sept 1861 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P61.html Found it in Rosario baptism 1861 page 0021 but its very confusing and hard for me to follow. hope to hear more from you Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:39 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:55:57 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade I would like to ask the group help in translating this record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-O-1880-1889_item1/P130.html Rosário, Óbitos 1880-1889 1883 0012 I have this family in my file... and so does Hermano Pires So far I understand that 11 April 1883 at 11 PM (numa das casas do lugar da Atalhada) Rosario parish Villa of Lagoa Maria da Trindade (died after receiving the last sacraments. 22 years of age legal daughter Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus. buried in public cemetery. Not sure if Maria de Jesus is the natural mother (legal daughter of both) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com MariaI have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883Elvira 1867Luiz 1870-1943Joao 1873Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this.I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children.Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade CheriThe reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record.I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego.Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
She is my cousin 3rd cousin 3 x removed. I also have one more child for Luis Pererira Lopez and Maria Luisa do Rego Luis Pereira Lopez 05 Jul 1870 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano -- From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore -- *From: *Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
- Original Message - From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:24:44 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Edward my info is in blue. Yes I do read portugues!! Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Maria born 12 oct 1863 F elicida Augusta born 31 Dec 1865 Elvira 1867 born 21 Sep 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 born 5 Jul 1870 Joao 1873 - born 17 Aug 1873 Jose 1877-1969- born 5 Feb 1877 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore - Original Message - From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: blockquote Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . /blockquote -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down. Thanks for the help. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Maria I found another child for them I sent Pam Santos the information I have another Maria born in 4 June 1862 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P85.html Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:32 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:24:44 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Edward my info is in blue. Yes I do read portugues!! Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Maria born 12 oct 1863 F elicida Augusta born 31 Dec 1865 Elvira 1867 born 21 Sep 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 born 5 Jul 1870 Joao 1873 - born 17 Aug 1873 Jose 1877-1969- born 5 Feb 1877 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Pam I have another Maria born in 4 June 1862 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1860-1866_item1/P85.html I have the 3 child you have as Maria as Elvira born 21 Sept 1867 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1867-1869_item1/P30.html Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Pam Santos wrote: Here is what I have for children On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: She is my cousin 3rd cousin 3 x removed. I also have one more child for Luis Pererira Lopez and Maria Luisa do Rego Luis Pereira Lopez 05 Jul 1870 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record. I know Luiz Pereira Lopes remarried after the death of Maria Candida do Rego. Was wondering if maybe Maria de Jesus was this wife or if maybe Luiz was married before Maria Candida do Rego. Edward. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Edward R, The term is legitimate. Not legal. And if you are legitimate from one parent, you are legitimate from the other. The term in Portuguese means your parents were married at the time of your birth. She's the legitimate daughter of Luiz Pereira Lopes Maria de Jesus. Her parents were married at the time of her birth. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down.Thanks for the help.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com MariaI have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883Elvira 1867Luiz 1870-1943Joao 1873Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this.I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children.Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade CheriThe reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having four children with Maria Candida do Rego I have the documents confirming these. One girl and three boys, the girls name was Elvira (born 1867) and supposed to be the oldest and committed suicide. I am looking for her dead record when I came across this record.I know Luiz Pereira
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
I would check the date of Sep 24, 1884, she had a child that died on that date, But I can't make out the name On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Melinda Lopes melinda_lo...@hotmail.comwrote: Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes -- From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down. Thanks for the help. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano -- From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Maria I have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883 Elvira 1867 Luiz 1870-1943 Joao 1873 Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this. I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children. Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have. Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore -- *From: *Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Cheri The reason I
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade
You guys are moving too fast for me :)) Was busy trying to tie loose ends. Will get back to this. Hermano From: melinda_lo...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:11:18 -0500 Edward et al, I will be happy to hear the outcome of this thread as the Jose Pereira Lopes born in February, 1877, son of Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida do Rego, was my grandfather. Edward and I have conversed about this line and recently I have received a massive amount of assistance from Manoel Ceasar in tracing this line. Manoel's research showed that Maria Candida Do Rego was the daughter of Candido Jacinto do Rego and Maria Botelho. aka Maria Candido Coracao de Jesus. I will ask Manoel what he knows about the potential for two Luiz Pereira Lopes. According to family history, my grandfather only spoke of siblings Luiz, Joao and a sister that committed suicide when she couldn't marry the man she loved. My grandfather was farmed out after his mother's death. Thus, Maria Candida Do Rego died after 1877 and it is quite probable that she died after 1883. I would love to hear from anyone who has a connection to this family so that I can add to our family tree. For those of you who are family connections and possible family finder matches, my father, John Lopes has a gedcom in his family finder results. We also have a private tree on ancestry.com which I can send you an invitation to join. Excited to hear from new relatives, Melinda Lopes From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:34:29 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com Hermano I am confused because when I was looking at that record I did notice that they where writing about the marriage of Luiz Pereira Lopes but not knowing Portuguese I wasn't sure because it was under baptism records. I looked at the record again and can see Maria Luiza. Now my question does she go by both name Maria Luiza and Maria Candida do Rego? Also on their daughter Maria Trindade obit in 1883 it has Luiz Pereira Lopes wife as Maria de Jesus . I just found another record for a Maria born to Luiz Pereira Lopes and Maria Candida de Rego 4 June 1862. Could this be the Maria Trindade who died in 1883? I think I am some how related from Francisco da Costa line that is why I am researching this line. All the other information matches with what I have down.Thanks for the help.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:Hello Edward. What I have on this family is in essence the same as what Maria Moore has referred to. Now as to the link you attached, although it say baptismos it realy is the marriage register of Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria Luisa on 2 September 1861. This Luis Pereira Lopes (27 years fo age) is the son of Joao Pereira Lopes Gaspar and Joana de Jesus and the paternal grandson of Gaspar Lopes and Quiteria de Jesus and maternal of Francisco da Costa Pires and Sebastiana de Jesus. Maria Luisa (27 years of age) is the daughter of Candido do Rego and Maria dos Anjos and the paternal granddaughter of Jose do Rego and Maria Joaquina and maternal of Jose Botelho Nunes and Ana Francisca. As far as I can make out at the moment Maria Luisa is my 3rd cousin 3 times removed. Hope that helps. Hermano From: edward.s.rodrig...@att.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:24:44 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com MariaI have documents of baptism for five children of Luiz Pereira Lopes 1834-1927 to Maria Candida Do Rego Maria Trindade 1861-1883Elvira 1867Luiz 1870-1943Joao 1873Jose 1877-1969 The record for Maria Trindade show Maria Candida do Rego as the mother. I am believing Maria de Jesus is the woman he married when Maria Candida do Rego died. I am looking for the records to support this.I still haven't checked the baptism record from 1862-1866 for any other children.Maria do you read portuguese? I can send you the records I have.Edward On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:Maria da Trindade died at 22 therefore was born around 1861 parents Luis Pereira Lopes and Maria de Jesus the second Luis Pereira Lopes married to Maria Luiza /do Rego/ or Maria Candida do Rego they were married on 16 Sep 1861 ( as per Diana Silva on this group). I have them with 6 children born 1863 to 1877 My conclusion is that they are not the same Luis. possibly the first is an uncle of the second Maria Moore From: Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] need help with obit for Maria da Trindade CheriThe reason I asked is I have records for Luiz Pereira Lopes being married and having
