[backstage] Listen Again Links
So Backstage has officially launched and in his talk on Saturday Ben[1] asked us to ask for any more data feeds that we might be interested in. So here's my request. Currently I build my BBC streams page (http://dave.org.uk/streams/) by screen scraping the data from the BBC radio web site. This is, of course, fragile and also puts an unnecessary strain on the BBC's servers. It would all be a lot easier if the BBC made that data available in some kind of data feed. What I'm suggesting is a data faile containing the following for each station: * Name of station * URL of home page * URLs of all "listen live" streams (in radio player) * (where available) URLs of actual real player streams * List of all programs on the station And then for each program, the following: * Title of program * Date/time of broadcast * URL of program's web site * URLs of all "listen again" links (in radio player app) * (where available) URLS of actual real streams * (where available) URLs of MP3 versions If you wanted to add other metadata (like genre) then that would, of course, be great :) What do you think? Possible? Probable? Cheers, Dave... [1] Good talk, by the way, Ben. -- If there's something inside that you wanna say Say it out loud it'll be ok pgp5XBWxJHyPx.pgp Description: PGP signature
[backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have access to a 'what's
playing now/what's just played' feed...
As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential mobile applications...
eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a music station that
i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would love to be able to send a
txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back with attributions for the last 3
tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes from an online music
store, or reservation links to add the appropriate album to my amazon
wichlist)
tony
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RE: [backstage] Football Text Commentaries
Hi Steve, This isn't something we're able to make available at the moment, due to the way these commentaries are entered into the content management system. However, I will forward the idea over the BBC Sport website for them to have a look at. Many thanks Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve > Fitzpatrick > Sent: 24 July 2005 15:32 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] Football Text Commentaries > > > BBC Chaps, > > Are there any plans afoot to publish the excellent football > text commentaries as an RSS feed (or similar)? > > For example, each of the timed sections here... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/live_ text/default.stm ...would be prefect as an entry in an RSS feed. I could then put soemthing together that would trigger a popup when it finds words like "Goal" and "Booking" in the description field. I'd then think about writing something that takes the descriptions and turns them into a pitch representation of the match, but ultimately decide to just watch the telly instead. Cheers Steve Innoware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] New SMS Alert Service with backstage data
Looking Good Gavin, However, the password sent had foreign characters in it, which is difficult to type using a UK keyboard. How about using only normal 8 bit ascii characters? Clair - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
[backstage] Competition - Google Maps and public sector data
All given the interesting things you've already demonstrated with Google Maps mash-ups, there may be some interest in the competition just announced over at Ideal Government (http://www.idealgovernment.com/index.php/weblog/mapping_foi_ideal_government_prize_competition_submit_entries_by_end_august/). I'm not sure whether BBC content would be considered within scope or not... Paul -- Dr Paul Miller Director, Common Information Environment e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m: +44 (7779) 669542 w: www.common-info.org.uk/ aim/ iChat/ Yahoo!: ciedirector Participate in the "CIE Thoughts" Blog at www.common-info.org.uk/thoughts/ Keep current with the "CIE News" Blog at www.common-info.org.uk/news/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] RSS App test
It works ok on my wintel xp in foxpro. One thing is that it seems to take a full headline rotation cycle to launch the link when you click it. I think you need to do some work on the perceptual design. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:43 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS App test Hi Am in the process of developing a desktop RSS viewer for BBC feeds and others. It accepts any number of different feeds and sits at the bottom of the desktop ticking away. Would a few kind soles try it out and see if it works for them? If you have the JRE installed and could just give some feedback on wether it launched correctly and displayed the RSS feeds that would be excellent. http://www.webcoding.co.uk/ticker.htm Jim. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] 3D?
This page did not work in Firefox, though it did in IE. Client side scripting has a lot of drawbacks, browser dependency is only one of them. Flexibility and security are big issues too. I'm agreed that flash is the best option for 3d and animation generally though it's got a steep cost in both monitary terms and the learning curve. More generally, though, I wonder if we could be seeing the beginning of the demise of the browser as we know it? Right now the paradigm of browser plugins is the dominant mechanism for extending presentation, but there's no reason to think this will always be the case. All the Best, Don -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Richard LockwoodSent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:13 AMTo: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: Re: [backstage] 3D? www.htmlguru.com is your friend here. Specifically, http://www.htmlguru.com/content/webpages/guru/guru.html Very elderly site, but still very nice looking. (Although given that it's (c) 1998, don't expect it to work in Firefox / Mozilla based browsers.) However, if you want to work with 3d on the client side, Flash is still your best bet. I know you say you don't want to have to work with plugins, but it's installed on (something like) 98.7% of machines. Cheers, Rich. On 7/22/05, Davy Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey People,Has anyone seen any good 3D scenes done in CSS/DHTML?I'm thinking up a news visualisation (with a very abstract/arty direction) trying to use client side technologies but no plugins andminimum image files (if any).I am very sleepy. Sorry if this doesn't make sense.Thanks & Bye.Davy Mitchellhttp://www.latedecember.com-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Mood News 3
Kim Plowright wrote: Wow - that's a slightly terrifying concept: the ability to filter news according to your personal preferences so you only get 'good' news delivered to you... Very 1984. *Shudder* Not quite - if you only received good news because thats all you were able to get/all you were given, that would be 1984. Otherwise, its just self inflicted "News Delusion" and happiness. The sort of thing experienced whilst watching anything with Lorraine Kelly in it. -- Use of advanced messaging technology does not imply an endorsement of western industrial civilization - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] RSS App test
Chris Walker wrote: James wrote: Hi Am in the process of developing a desktop RSS viewer for BBC feeds and others. It accepts any number of different feeds and sits at the bottom of the desktop ticking away. Would a few kind soles try it out and see if it works for them? Doesn't work I'm afraid: * The error occured while running the application. The exit code is 0x1229. * Contact the vendor of the application for troubleshooting. java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) at com.ucware.JEXEClassLoader.run(Unknown Source) at com.ucware.JEXEClassLoader.main(Unknown Source) Caused by: java.lang.Error: Do not use co.uk.webcoding.backstage.Scroller.add() use co.uk.webcoding.backstage.Scroller.getContentPane().add() instead at javax.swing.JFrame.createRootPaneException(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JFrame.addImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Container.add(Unknown Source) at co.uk.webcoding.backstage.Scroller.run(Scroller.java:214) at co.uk.webcoding.backstage.Scroller.main(Scroller.java:436) ... 6 more Win XP, vanilla. C. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. No probs - I'll add this fix in. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] Deals for commercial sites
> Hello Amias, > > if you would like to investigate commercial options for the use of our > feeds, you should contact our Business Development Manager - there's a > contact form here: www.bbc.co.uk/syndication. Thanks for the pointer , it would be good to have simple upgrade path so that people could turn their hobby projects into proper work without having to recode/redesign . Looks like this is most of that , thanks. Toodle-pip Amias - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] RSS App test
Yeh, source will be available shortly - I need to spend some time tidying it up a bit. Surowiec, William wrote: Runs fine in Win 2000 Workstation with java 1.5.2. Nice. Will the source be available? Bill Would a few kind soles try it out and see if it works for them? If you have the JRE installed and could just give some feedback on wether it launched correctly and displayed the RSS feeds that would be excellent. http://www.webcoding.co.uk/ticker.htm "This communication is intended solely for the addressee and is confidential and not for third party unauthorized distribution." No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/53 - Release Date: 20/07/2005 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
What about running a stream through some kind of acoustic fingerprint
lookup service like MusicBrainz or Shazam? As I don't think this kind of
data will be available in the near future...
Kim
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Subject: [backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have access to a
'what's playing now/what's just played' feed...
As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential mobile
applications...
eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a music station
that i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would love to be able to
send a txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back with attributions for the
last 3 tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes from an online
music store, or reservation links to add the appropriate album to my
amazon
wichlist)
tony
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[backstage] TV Listings
I would love to have short TV Schedules as RSS feeds with the level of information used to create listing likes this one; http://www.bbcprime.com/asia/schedules.aspx?menu=schedules The idea would be to repackage the information to provide users better/convenient/useful access to the information. Examples: a favorites listing or a themed listing, which could be run from the dekstop instead of needing to find web sites Rob - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories
With the speed with which the annotation stream idea is being worked up, I can see the time is ripe to revisit the idea of an information mixing desk (cf an audio mixing desk). Info feeds come in at the top, stories can get boosted/attenuated in the presentation order according to eg timeliness, keywords, locale etc etc (cf bass, treble etc), effects applied to feeds correspond perhaps to annotation feeds, perhaps to info pulled in from other services (eg if a story/feed is tagged, then delicious can be mined for related pages, and perhaps even related feeds (hmm - does delicious support rss or webservice linktypes, so you can just search on those?) But that's by the by... What I meant to post was: As I understand it, the annotationStream idea allows a user to provide a set of annotations that can be applied to a particular original feed. But what if I want to define a feed that is a combination of several distinct annotationStreams defined at quite a high level? is there any merit in going a step further and having an annotationMix (or annotationPatch?) (that may or may not be an annotationStream?) that contains eg one or more tags and defines which bits of those various annotations from each feed should be used in the final annotationMix? It wouldn;t go as far as defining an xslt to remix the final feed, but would be useful as a config file for a mixer of several feeds, perhaps, or setting up an XSLT to generate the final annotated/mixed feed? tony - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] New SMS Alert Service with backstage data
Hi Clair, I believe that I fixed this bug last week, it was due to angled brackets not being displayed in some phones properly. Did you receive the foreign characters today? I had changed the angled brackets to single quotes, so you should have received a message such as: Your validation code is 'eily'. Thanks for the feedback, there will be an update to the SMS alert service later this week making it easier to use and understand.. Cheers, Gavin On 14/07/05, Clair Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking Good Gavin, > > However, the password sent had foreign characters in it, which is difficult > to type using a UK keyboard. > > How about using only normal 8 bit ascii characters? > > > Clair > > > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Listen Again Links
I have to agree with Dave that this would be a very nice thing to have officially. There is one piece of data that I feel is missing from the list of things below, however. The duration of the programmes would be a useful piece of data for scheduling things to make it easier to decide what to listen to or for a number of other reasons. And you can't just trust the listings as they can be slightly wrong ... And Ben's talk was great, especially the answer to the American woman's question :) Duncan Dave Cross wrote: So Backstage has officially launched and in his talk on Saturday Ben[1] asked us to ask for any more data feeds that we might be interested in. So here's my request. Currently I build my BBC streams page (http://dave.org.uk/streams/) by screen scraping the data from the BBC radio web site. This is, of course, fragile and also puts an unnecessary strain on the BBC's servers. It would all be a lot easier if the BBC made that data available in some kind of data feed. What I'm suggesting is a data faile containing the following for each station: * Name of station * URL of home page * URLs of all "listen live" streams (in radio player) * (where available) URLs of actual real player streams * List of all programs on the station And then for each program, the following: * Title of program * Date/time of broadcast * URL of program's web site * URLs of all "listen again" links (in radio player app) * (where available) URLS of actual real streams * (where available) URLs of MP3 versions If you wanted to add other metadata (like genre) then that would, of course, be great :) What do you think? Possible? Probable? Cheers, Dave... [1] Good talk, by the way, Ben.
Re: [backstage] Competition - Google Maps and public sector data
Thanks Paul. Yes, BBC content definitely within scope. Any public-sector data in fact. Any queries to me. Also happy to carry any discussion about OS mapping data policy and what online maps means for e-enabled public services. Anyone can comment, and if anyone wants ot be an author in Ideal Government just email me and I'll kit you out with an author login. William Heath ___ William Heath, Kable, +44 7973 115024 www.idealgovernment.com www.kablenet.com Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > cc: Sent by:Subject: [backstage] Competition - Google Maps and public sector data [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.bbc.co.uk 17/07/05 21:53 Please respond to backstage All given the interesting things you've already demonstrated with Google Maps mash-ups, there may be some interest in the competition just announced over at Ideal Government (http://www.idealgovernment.com/index.php/weblog/mapping_foi_ideal_government_prize_competition_submit_entries_by_end_august/). I'm not sure whether BBC content would be considered within scope or not... Paul -- Dr Paul Miller Director, Common Information Environment e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m: +44 (7779) 669542 w: www.common-info.org.uk/ aim/ iChat/ Yahoo!: ciedirector Participate in the "CIE Thoughts" Blog at www.common-info.org.uk/thoughts/ Keep current with the "CIE News" Blog at www.common-info.org.uk/news/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] TV Listings
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 12:01:11AM -1200, Robert Edgar wrote: > I would love to have short TV Schedules as RSS feeds with the level of > information used to create listing likes this one; > http://www.bbcprime.com/asia/schedules.aspx?menu=schedules > > The idea would be to repackage the information to provide users > better/convenient/useful access to the information. > Examples: a favorites listing or a themed listing, which could be run from > the dekstop instead of needing to find web sites Rob, TV listings data is already available http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/7DayListingData?v=16wk Or, if you want data that is less detailed but has better coverage (i.e. 14 days of all channels - not just BBC ones) you can get it from the Radio Times site. The list of channels is in http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat And each individual channel is in (for example) http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/92.dat Slightly weird format tho' :) Dave... -- I'm your only friend / I'm not your only friend But I'm a little glowing friend But really I'm not actually your friend / But I am pgpC5NoAiVe4U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
Um - it's there for 6Music.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/flash/tickerNew.swf
Cheers,
Rich.
On 7/25/05, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What about running a stream through some kind of acoustic fingerprintlookup service like MusicBrainz or Shazam? As I don't think this kind of
data will be available in the near future...Kim-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony HirstSent: 25 July 2005 11:56To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: [backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have access to a'what's playing now/what's just played' feed...As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential mobileapplications...eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a music station
that i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would love to be able tosend a txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back with attributions for thelast 3 tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes from an online
music store, or reservation links to add the appropriate album to myamazonwichlist)tony-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,
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RE: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories
Hello Tony, Do you knock up prototypes? Dr. Roger Brittain The Old Rectory Brinklow Warwickshire CV23 0NE Great Britain Telephone (44) 01788 832 660 Mobile 07821 184 074 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hirst Sent: 25 July 2005 1:04 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories With the speed with which the annotation stream idea is being worked up, I can see the time is ripe to revisit the idea of an information mixing desk (cf an audio mixing desk). Info feeds come in at the top, stories can get boosted/attenuated in the presentation order according to eg timeliness, keywords, locale etc etc (cf bass, treble etc), effects applied to feeds correspond perhaps to annotation feeds, perhaps to info pulled in from other services (eg if a story/feed is tagged, then delicious can be mined for related pages, and perhaps even related feeds (hmm - does delicious support rss or webservice linktypes, so you can just search on those?) But that's by the by... What I meant to post was: As I understand it, the annotationStream idea allows a user to provide a set of annotations that can be applied to a particular original feed. But what if I want to define a feed that is a combination of several distinct annotationStreams defined at quite a high level? is there any merit in going a step further and having an annotationMix (or annotationPatch?) (that may or may not be an annotationStream?) that contains eg one or more tags and defines which bits of those various annotations from each feed should be used in the final annotationMix? It wouldn;t go as far as defining an xslt to remix the final feed, but would be useful as a config file for a mixer of several feeds, perhaps, or setting up an XSLT to generate the final annotated/mixed feed? tony - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:22:04PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Um - it's there for 6Music. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/flash/tickerNew.swf Oh yeah. Flash. That's _really_ useful :) Dave... -- If there's something inside that you wanna say Say it out loud it'll be ok pgpdYq2Dkh2GE.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
I too would love
to see some sort of service like this on R1 and R2. I'm not sure about sending
the song out via SMS, but surely a webpage detailing the last 10 songs played shouldn't
be too difficult? (OK I'm no developer, but surely it should be possible)
It'd definitely be
music to people's ears (pun not intended!) - no more annoying "what's that
song that's just played" on the radio business. I know there's Shazam et
al, but the prices they charge are a bit of a rip-off, at 50p per track. So if
you've heard a number of songs on the radio, it could be rather costly. Also,
some R1 & R2 (Steve Wright seems to do this fairly often) presenters don’t
always back-announce the songs. I know R2 has a playlist on its website after
the show, but it can be difficult to tell which song was played when as it does
not have times.
Virgin does
something like this on their website - http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/nowplaying/
They also
display the name of the current playing track as well. I’d like to see
the BBC expand on this and provide the artist/track title of the last 10 played
songs. I know R1 does display the currently playing track and artist on some
shows, so they do have the technology to at least display the current playing
song. Whether this is updated manually, or taken from a feed I don’t know
– perhaps someone in the know would like to expand on it?
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Behalf Of Kim Plowright
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Subject: RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
What about running a stream through some kind of acoustic
fingerprint
lookup service like MusicBrainz or Shazam? As I don't
think this kind of
data will be available in the near future...
Kim
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Tony Hirst
Sent: 25 July 2005 11:56
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Subject: [backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have
access to a
'what's playing now/what's just played' feed...
As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential mobile
applications...
eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a
music station
that i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would love
to be able to
send a txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back
with attributions for the
last 3 tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes
from an online
music store, or reservation links to add the appropriate
album to my
amazon
wichlist)
tony
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Re: [backstage] Mood News 3
How happy I was to hear the name of Lorraine Kelly - a breath of fresh air to an expat in the US, and a Scot at that. Matt On 7/18/05, Brit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kim Plowright wrote: > > > Wow - that's a slightly terrifying concept: the ability to filter news > > according to your personal preferences so you only get 'good' news > > delivered to you... Very 1984. *Shudder* > > Not quite - if you only received good news because thats all you were > able to get/all you were given, that would be 1984. > > Otherwise, its just self inflicted "News Delusion" and happiness. The > sort of thing experienced whilst watching anything with Lorraine Kelly > in it. > > -- > Use of advanced messaging technology does not imply an endorsement of > western industrial civilization > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
My point being that the Flash must pull the data from somewhere, so it must exist in some regularly updated format. C'mon - a virtual beer for the first person to find it. ;-) Cheers, Rich. On 7/25/05, Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:22:04PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote:> Um - it's there for 6Music.> http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/flash/tickerNew.swfOh yeah. Flash. That's _really_ useful :)Dave...--If there's something inside that you wanna say Say it out loud it'll be ok
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
Richard Lockwood wrote: My point being that the Flash must pull the data from somewhere, so it must exist in some regularly updated format. C'mon - a virtual beer for the first person to find it. ;-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/ro/flash_data.sssi Pint o' Guinness please, Cheers, Rich. Chris. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
One quick Ethereal trace later... http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/ro/flash_data.sssi - Sven Richard Lockwood wrote: My point being that the Flash must pull the data from somewhere, so it must exist in some regularly updated format. C'mon - a virtual beer for the first person to find it. ;-) Cheers, Rich. -- Tel: 07989 290966 Web: http://www.svenlatham.com/ Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
Ah yes. Here it is. http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/ro/flash_data.sssi Cheers, Rich. On 7/25/05, Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point being that the Flash must pull the data from somewhere, so it must exist in some regularly updated format. C'mon - a virtual beer for the first person to find it. ;-) Cheers, Rich. On 7/25/05, Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:22:04PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote:> Um - it's there for 6Music.> http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/flash/tickerNew.swfOh yeah. Flash. That's _really_ useful :) Dave...--If there's something inside that you wanna say Say it out loud it'll be ok
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
Indeed. Here you go... :-) http://www.houseofguinness.com/images/Guinness%20pint%20glass.JPG Cheers, Rich. On 7/25/05, Chris Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Lockwood wrote:> My point being that the Flash must pull the data from somewhere, so it > must exist in some regularly updated format. C'mon - a virtual beer for> the first person to find it. ;-)http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/ro/flash_data.sssi Pint o' Guinness please,> Cheers,>> Rich.Chris.-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
[backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Hello For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be found here: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/first_backstage.html, however in summery: We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to user-annotation, remixing it... etc We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. Check out http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/first_backstage.html for the full details and the link to the competition rules. If you have any questions, let me know... Best of luck Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Two possible Zeitgeist applications
Paul, I really liked your mockups. I think they also make an important point that ideas on this forum that are guided by the GUI/data visualization aspect are of equal importance. As for their content - great. I believe that rss, due to its compact idiom, has the potential to make a huge impact on how we interact with online data - it really does open the door for visualizations and aggregate analyses like those you have put together, not just search. Now for your question: how to put the second system together. This is actually a type of problem called story identification and tracking. There are two main issues, though they are actually the same problem underneath: 1) given a post is it the start of a story? 2) given a post, which of the current stories does it belong to. Imagine how much easier this would be if the rss feed had a parent or related to data point that would link it to either an original story, or to a central reference point (that wasn't associated with a particular report, but did represent the story like a URI). But that is not available. So what can you do? Well, you could look up and read all the literature on news tracking, but that wouldn't really get something up and running too quickly. So I would suggest some form of vector based similarity. For a new document, you would have to compare it to all story clusters to see if it is a member. If it the measurement of similarity is below some threshold, then the story is a new story, otherwise stick it in the cluster it is most similar to. If the above is all sounding like double-dutch, please let me know and I will write up some of the details. BTW, this would be another great application for Feed Annotation Streams that I have menetioned earlier (http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/feed_annotation.html) Imagine a service that did the appropriate clustering and published the annotation: http://bbc story rss guid"> London Bombing 5 http://parent story guid"/> Having such an annotation service would allow for putting together your stuff independantly of having to do the computation. This would significantly alter the accessibility of the whole rss game! BTW, let me know if you would like any map based images for this or other mockups, it is pretty easy for me to produce those now... Matt http://datamining.typepad.com On 7/11/05, Paul Veltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > Most impressed with what I've seen on this mailing list. > > Have mocked up a couple of possible Zeitgeist applications in MS-Paint, > but have exhausted my computer skills in the process. Unlike Matthew, > > http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/bombs_in_the_ne.html > , > I wouldn't know where to begin if I had to code the relevant applications. > > Anyone got any insights into how to build the second one? > > Paul Veltman > > > > > > > > > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Two possible Zeitgeist applications
Paul, BTW, do you have a blog, or other site that I can refer to on my blog. I'd love to write something about your ideas and post it on my blog. MattH On 7/25/05, Matthew Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > I really liked your mockups. I think they also make an important point that > ideas on this forum that are guided by the GUI/data visualization aspect are > of equal importance. > > As for their content - great. I believe that rss, due to its compact > idiom, has the > potential to make a huge impact on how we interact with online data - it > really > does open the door for visualizations and aggregate analyses like those you > have > put together, not just search. > > Now for your question: how to put the second system together. This is actually > a type of problem called story identification and tracking. There are two main > issues, though they are actually the same problem underneath: > > 1) given a post is it the start of a story? > 2) given a post, which of the current stories does it belong to. > > Imagine how much easier this would be if the rss feed had a parent or related > to > data point that would link it to either an original story, or to a > central reference point > (that wasn't associated with a particular report, but did represent > the story like a URI). > > But that is not available. So what can you do? Well, you could look up > and read all > the literature on news tracking, but that wouldn't really get > something up and running > too quickly. So I would suggest some form of vector based similarity. > For a new document, > you would have to compare it to all story clusters to see if it is a > member. If it the measurement of similarity is below some threshold, > then the story is a new story, otherwise > stick it in the cluster it is most similar to. > > If the above is all sounding like double-dutch, please let me know and > I will write up some of the details. > > BTW, this would be another great application for Feed Annotation > Streams that I have menetioned earlier > (http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/feed_annotation.html) > Imagine a service that did the appropriate clustering and published > the annotation: > > http://bbc story rss guid"> > > London Bombing > 5 > http://parent story guid"/> > > > > Having such an annotation service would allow for putting together > your stuff independantly of having to do the computation. This would > significantly alter the accessibility of the whole rss game! > > BTW, let me know if you would like any map based images for this or > other mockups, it is pretty easy for me to produce those now... > > Matt > http://datamining.typepad.com > > On 7/11/05, Paul Veltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Most impressed with what I've seen on this mailing list. > > > > Have mocked up a couple of possible Zeitgeist applications in MS-Paint, > > but have exhausted my computer skills in the process. Unlike Matthew, > > > > http://datamining.typepad.com/data_mining/2005/07/bombs_in_the_ne.html > > , > > I wouldn't know where to begin if I had to code the relevant applications. > > > > Anyone got any insights into how to build the second one? > > > > Paul Veltman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories
Tony, I like where you are going with this. My feeling is that if we can get annotation streams working, applications like the one you describe, will be built on top of it either providing new meta content, or providing directly consumable interfaces to the data. I wish I could buy some time to get the annotation streams thing up and running! Matt http://datamining.typepad.com On 7/25/05, Dr R Brittain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Tony, > Do you knock up prototypes? > > Dr. Roger Brittain > The Old Rectory > Brinklow > Warwickshire > CV23 0NE > Great Britain > Telephone (44) 01788 832 660 > Mobile 07821 184 074 > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hirst > Sent: 25 July 2005 1:04 PM > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories > > > With the speed with which the annotation stream idea is being worked up, I > can see the time is ripe to revisit the idea of an information mixing desk > (cf an audio mixing desk). > > Info feeds come in at the top, stories can get boosted/attenuated in the > presentation order according to eg timeliness, keywords, locale etc etc > (cf bass, treble etc), effects applied to feeds correspond perhaps to > annotation feeds, perhaps to info pulled in from other services (eg if a > story/feed is tagged, then delicious can be mined for related pages, and > perhaps even related feeds (hmm - does delicious support rss or > webservice linktypes, so you can just search on those?) > > But that's by the by... > > What I meant to post was: > > As I understand it, the annotationStream idea allows a user to provide a > set of annotations that can be applied to a particular original feed. But > what if I want to define a feed that is a combination of several distinct > annotationStreams defined at quite a high level? > > is there any merit in going a step further and having an annotationMix (or > annotationPatch?) (that may or may not be an annotationStream?) that > contains eg one or more annotationURI="URI-for-annotation-service" /> tags and defines which bits > of those various annotations from each feed should be used in the final > annotationMix? > > It wouldn;t go as far as defining an xslt to remix the final feed, but > would be useful as a config file for a mixer of several feeds, perhaps, or > setting up an XSLT to generate the final annotated/mixed feed? > > tony > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Ben Metcalfe wrote: We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. I wouldn't be a true geek if I didn't ask what the specs of those bits of kit are; brand/model number please ;) Regards, C. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Question, How about us guys who can't create prototypes? I have ideas which I think are pretty important but it sounds like you want examples rather than simple ideas. Is that right? Dr. Roger Brittain The Old Rectory Brinklow Warwickshire CV23 0NE Great Britain Telephone (44) 01788 832 660 Mobile 07821 184 074 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe Sent: 25 July 2005 3:24 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details Hello For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be found here: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/first_backstage.html, however in summery: We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to user-annotation, remixing it... etc We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. Check out http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/first_backstage.html for the full details and the link to the competition rules. If you have any questions, let me know... Best of luck Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
Title: Message
I
know it's not Radio 1 or 2, but 6music does list the tracks played quite quickly
- however they're listed on a programme by programme basis - for
example
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/vic_mcglynn/tracklisting.shtml
However as I recall, this only covers tracks played out of the hard drive
playout system - where tracks are played of CD/vinyl/8-track cart[1] they have
to be added manually. IIRC programmes which don't come from London (i.e.
those presented by Marc Riley) also have manually created
playlists.
I
should say that the information above may now be out of date - it was
gleaned over many years of lurking on the 6music message boards :o)
[1]
okay, the 8-track only ever appeared on Marc Riley's Mint, and only for a few
weeks...
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 25 July 2005 14:51To:
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE: [backstage] What's playing
now...
I too would
love to see some sort of service like this on R1 and R2. I'm not sure about
sending the song out via SMS, but surely a webpage detailing the last 10 songs
played shouldn't be too difficult? (OK I'm no developer, but surely it should
be possible)
It'd
definitely be music to people's ears (pun not intended!) - no more annoying
"what's that song that's just played" on the radio business. I know there's
Shazam et al, but the prices they charge are a bit of a rip-off, at 50p per
track. So if you've heard a number of songs on the radio, it could be rather
costly. Also, some R1 & R2 (Steve Wright seems to do this fairly often)
presenters don’t always back-announce the songs. I know R2 has a playlist on
its website after the show, but it can be difficult to tell which song was
played when as it does not have times.
Virgin does
something like this on their website - http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/nowplaying/
They also
display the name of the current playing track as well. I’d like to see the BBC
expand on this and provide the artist/track title of the last 10 played songs.
I know R1 does display the currently playing track and artist on some shows,
so they do have the technology to at least display the current playing song.
Whether this is updated manually, or taken from a feed I don’t know – perhaps
someone in the know would like to expand on it?
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kim PlowrightSent: 25 July 2005 12:54To:
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE: [backstage] What's playing
now...
What about running a stream through some kind of
acoustic fingerprint
lookup service like MusicBrainz or Shazam? As I don't
think this kind of
data will be available in the near future...
Kim
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tony Hirst
Sent: 25 July 2005 11:56
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have
access to a
'what's playing now/what's just played' feed...
As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential
mobile
applications...
eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a
music station
that i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would
love to be able to
send a txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back with
attributions for the
last 3 tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes
from an online
music store, or reservation links to add the appropriate
album to my
amazon
wichlist)
tony
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RE: [backstage] What's playing now...
Title: Message
Hi
all
We have
tracklistings for most music shows across most networks, broadly
speaking - sometimes just after the track gets played, sometimes
after the entire show has finished (in the case of a lot of Radio 3 shows, for
example)
As we move to
hard-disk-based playout systems, we can increasingly offer the kind of automated
service you see on 6 Music i.e. tracklistings emerging throughout the show
as tracks get played; track now playing in LiveText - the scrolling text you see
on a DAB Digital Radio LCD screen or when listening to the radio over our DTT
Freeview services etc. That kind of information ("The track now playing is...")
is also available across several networks on LiveText, irrespective of whether
hard-disk playout is in place e.g. 1Xtra, which is often off vinyl, has the
programme team entering those details into LiveText.
We're working on
projects to use the tracklisting information in hard-disk-based playout systems
across the website and also make better use of LiveText across the websites as
well as DAB and DTT, possibly even using SMS as part of that little
ecosystem - watch that space, but don't hold your breath :) There are
legal as well as techical hurdles to overcome, as ever.
So for now, we aim
to provide tracklistings on the websites across all music shows wherever we can
- technical and resource limitations willing. And we aim to get this better and
better going forward. But it's not something we're able to just turn on
across all networks just yet - as RSS, API or even just accurately
updated HTML. LiveText is your best bet for accurately updated track now playing
info at the moment.
hth,
Dan
Hill
Dan Hill Head of Interactive Technology and
Design BBC Radio and Music
Interactive e:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] t:
020.776.55299 m:
07711.664.994
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 25 July 2005 14:51To:
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE: [backstage] What's playing
now...
I too would
love to see some sort of service like this on R1 and R2. I'm not sure about
sending the song out via SMS, but surely a webpage detailing the last 10 songs
played shouldn't be too difficult? (OK I'm no developer, but surely it should
be possible)
It'd
definitely be music to people's ears (pun not intended!) - no more annoying
"what's that song that's just played" on the radio business. I know there's
Shazam et al, but the prices they charge are a bit of a rip-off, at 50p per
track. So if you've heard a number of songs on the radio, it could be rather
costly. Also, some R1 & R2 (Steve Wright seems to do this fairly often)
presenters don’t always back-announce the songs. I know R2 has a playlist on
its website after the show, but it can be difficult to tell which song was
played when as it does not have times.
Virgin does
something like this on their website - http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/nowplaying/
They also
display the name of the current playing track as well. I’d like to see the BBC
expand on this and provide the artist/track title of the last 10 played songs.
I know R1 does display the currently playing track and artist on some shows,
so they do have the technology to at least display the current playing song.
Whether this is updated manually, or taken from a feed I don’t know – perhaps
someone in the know would like to expand on it?
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kim PlowrightSent: 25 July 2005 12:54To:
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE: [backstage] What's playing
now...
What about running a stream through some kind of
acoustic fingerprint
lookup service like MusicBrainz or Shazam? As I don't
think this kind of
data will be available in the near future...
Kim
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tony Hirst
Sent: 25 July 2005 11:56
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] What's playing now...
If server load isn;t really an issue, I'd love to have
access to a
'what's playing now/what's just played' feed...
As well as tickers, there are a stack of potential
mobile
applications...
eg mre often than not, there'll be a tune playing on a
music station
that i miss the name of/miss the artist, and I would
love to be able to
send a txt ("wjp radio1") and a get a msg back with
attributions for the
last 3 tunes (and perhaps download links for those tunes
from an online
music store, or reservation links to add the appropriate
album to my
amazon
wichlist)
tony
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RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr R Brittain > Sent: 25 July 2005 15:55 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details > > > Question, > How about us guys who can't create prototypes? I have ideas > which I think are pretty important but it sounds like you > want examples rather than simple ideas. Is that right? Hi Roger It's tricky for us because we know that people will spend a long time building prototypes, which is why we wanted to put up an exceptional prize - to reflect the amount of work that will no doubt go into each prototype. We'd be happy to receive ideas, particularly if they are "worked up" (wireframes, designs, or even HTML mock ups) but in terms of judging criteria for the prize "quality of the implementation of the prototype" will be a key factor in choosing a winner. If you have some cool ideas, why not try and pair up with a developer on this list who might be happy to work with you and turn your idea into a working prototype? Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > > Dr. Roger Brittain > The Old Rectory > Brinklow > Warwickshire > CV23 0NE > Great Britain > Telephone (44) 01788 832 660 > Mobile 07821 184 074 > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe > Sent: 25 July 2005 3:24 PM > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details > > Hello > > For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech > 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first > backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be > found here: > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/> 07/first_backstage.html, > however in summery: > > We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that > demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New > ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to > user-annotation, remixing it... etc > > > We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a > brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's > also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. > > > Check out > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/> 07/first_backstage.html > for the full details and the link to the competition rules. > > > > If you have any questions, let me know... > > Best of luck > > > > Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Are there any other APIs apart from the Java one as I've never worked with Java before?On 25/07/05, Ben Metcalfe < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dr R Brittain> Sent: 25 July 2005 15:55> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> Subject: RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>>> Question,> How about us guys who can't create prototypes? I have ideas > which I think are pretty important but it sounds like you> want examples rather than simple ideas. Is that right?Hi RogerIt's tricky for us because we know that people will spend a long time building prototypes, which is why we wanted to put up an exceptionalprize - to reflect the amount of work that will no doubt go into eachprototype.We'd be happy to receive ideas, particularly if they are "worked up" (wireframes, designs, or even HTML mock ups) but in terms of judgingcriteria for the prize "quality of the implementation of the prototype"will be a key factor in choosing a winner.If you have some cool ideas, why not try and pair up with a developer on this list who might be happy to work with you and turn your idea into aworking prototype?Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk>> Dr. Roger Brittain > The Old Rectory> Brinklow> Warwickshire> CV23 0NE> Great Britain> Telephone (44) 01788 832 660> Mobile 07821 184 074> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe> Sent: 25 July 2005 3:24 PM> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> Subject: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>> Hello>> For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech> 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first > backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be> found here:> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/ >07/first_backstage.html,> however in summery:>> We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that> demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New> ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to > user-annotation, remixing it... etc>>> We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a> brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's> also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. >>> Check out> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/>07/first_backstage.html> for the full details and the link to the competition rules. If you have any questions, let me know...>> Best of luck Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk> >> -> Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To> unsubscribe, please visit> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-- Regards, Unigamer
RE: [backstage] TV Listings
> I would love to have short TV Schedules as RSS feeds with the > level of information used to create listing likes this one; > http://www.bbcprime.com/asia/schedules.aspx?> menu=schedules > > > The idea would be to repackage the > information to provide users better/convenient/useful access > to the information. > Examples: a favorites listing or a themed listing, which > could be run from the dekstop instead of needing to find web sites Sounds like a potential backstage.bbc.co.uk competition entry to me...! :) (http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/07/first_backstage.html) Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Edgar > Sent: 25 July 2005 13:01 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] TV Listings > > > I would love to have short TV Schedules as RSS feeds with the > level of information used to create listing likes this one; > http://www.bbcprime.com/asia/schedules.aspx?> menu=schedules > > > The idea would be to repackage the > information to provide users better/convenient/useful access > to the information. > Examples: a favorites listing or a themed listing, which > could be run from the dekstop instead of needing to find web sites > > Rob > > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Title: Message >Are there any other APIs apart from the Java one as I've never worked with Java before? Not at the moment, but we're looking to work on some. Let us know what you would like to see. Also, if people want to write API's as backstage projects, we'd be be very interested in assisting where we can. Cheers Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of unigamerSent: 25 July 2005 17:28To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details Are there any other APIs apart from the Java one as I've never worked with Java before? On 25/07/05, Ben Metcalfe < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dr R Brittain> Sent: 25 July 2005 15:55> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> Subject: RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>>> Question,> How about us guys who can't create prototypes? I have ideas > which I think are pretty important but it sounds like you> want examples rather than simple ideas. Is that right?Hi RogerIt's tricky for us because we know that people will spend a long time building prototypes, which is why we wanted to put up an exceptionalprize - to reflect the amount of work that will no doubt go into eachprototype.We'd be happy to receive ideas, particularly if they are "worked up" (wireframes, designs, or even HTML mock ups) but in terms of judgingcriteria for the prize "quality of the implementation of the prototype"will be a key factor in choosing a winner.If you have some cool ideas, why not try and pair up with a developer on this list who might be happy to work with you and turn your idea into aworking prototype?Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk>> Dr. Roger Brittain > The Old Rectory> Brinklow> Warwickshire> CV23 0NE> Great Britain> Telephone (44) 01788 832 660> Mobile 07821 184 074> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe> Sent: 25 July 2005 3:24 PM> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> Subject: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>> Hello>> For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech> 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first > backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be> found here:> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/ >07/first_backstage.html,> however in summery:>> We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that> demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New> ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to > user-annotation, remixing it... etc>>> We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a> brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's> also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. >>> Check out> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/>07/first_backstage.html> for the full details and the link to the competition rules. If you have any questions, let me know...>> Best of luck Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk>>> -> Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To> unsubscribe, please visit> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,please visithttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.-- Regards, Unigamer
[backstage] list archives
How do I get an archive of the mailings on this list? I can't find it on the backstage website even with google as my aid. I tried e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it doesn't list backstage as a mailing list, so I can't use majordomo commands to request archives. If they don't provide them, then I could put up a temporary archive on my website if someone could send me past e-mails that I have not received since I joined this list only recently. -- Nathan J. Yoder http://www.gummibears.nu/ http://www.gummibears.nu/files/njyoder_pgp.key -- - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Personally, I'd like a PHP API so if 4anyone has written one I'd really like to see it.On 25/07/05, Ben Metcalfe < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are there any other APIs apart from the Java one as I've never worked with Java before? Not at the moment, but we're looking to work on some. Let us know what you would like to see. Also, if people want to write API's as backstage projects, we'd be be very interested in assisting where we can. Cheers Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of unigamerSent: 25 July 2005 17:28To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details Are there any other APIs apart from the Java one as I've never worked with Java before? On 25/07/05, Ben Metcalfe < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dr R Brittain> Sent: 25 July 2005 15:55> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>>> Question,> How about us guys who can't create prototypes? I have ideas > which I think are pretty important but it sounds like you> want examples rather than simple ideas. Is that right?Hi RogerIt's tricky for us because we know that people will spend a long time building prototypes, which is why we wanted to put up an exceptionalprize - to reflect the amount of work that will no doubt go into eachprototype.We'd be happy to receive ideas, particularly if they are "worked up" (wireframes, designs, or even HTML mock ups) but in terms of judgingcriteria for the prize "quality of the implementation of the prototype"will be a key factor in choosing a winner.If you have some cool ideas, why not try and pair up with a developer on this list who might be happy to work with you and turn your idea into aworking prototype?Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk>> Dr. Roger Brittain > The Old Rectory> Brinklow> Warwickshire> CV23 0NE> Great Britain> Telephone (44) 01788 832 660> Mobile 07821 184 074> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe> Sent: 25 July 2005 3:24 PM> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> Subject: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details>> Hello>> For those who were not at the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech> 05 event over the weekend, I'm pleased to announce the first > backstage.bbc.co.uk competition. The full details can be> found here:> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/ >07/first_backstage.html,> however in summery:>> We want you to innovate and come up with prototypes that> demonstrate new ways of exploring the BBC TV schedule. New> ways of presenting it, searching it, opening it up to > user-annotation, remixing it... etc>>> We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a> brand new rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's> also two 1Gig MP3 Players for the two runners up. >>> Check out> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2005/ >07/first_backstage.html> for the full details and the link to the competition rules. If you have any questions, let me know...>> Best of luck Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk>>> -> Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To> unsubscribe, please visit> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html .-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe,please visithttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html .-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html .-- Regards, Unigamer -- Regards, Unigamer
RE: [backstage] list archives
This is available at http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ (This website is an "unofficial archive" of the list - and not supported or endorsed by the BBC) Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan J. Yoder > Sent: 25 July 2005 17:32 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] list archives > > > How do I get an archive of the mailings on this list? I > can't find it on the backstage website even with google as my > aid. I tried e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it > doesn't list backstage as a mailing list, so I can't use > majordomo commands to request archives. > > If they don't provide them, then I could put up a temporary > archive on my website if someone could send me past e-mails > that I have not received since I joined this list only recently. > > -- > Nathan J. Yoder > http://www.gummibears.nu/ > http://www.gummibears.nu/files/njyoder_pgp.key > > -- > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ma> iling_list.html. > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details
Hi Chris, We don't have specific specifications for the server for the following reason: We worked out the best way to send the winner the server is to list them as the recipient when we purchase it. That way the server is delivered directly to them, and the support contract and warranty is established between them and the manufacture. If it was delivered to us, then we'd have to have it shipped on to the winner, and the support contract and warranty would still be held with us (they would be a "second user/owner" and have less rights). So we don't want to buy it now, cos we obviously don't know who to send it to! :) The nature of the market is such that the specification we can obtain for a given price now will almost certainly change (for the better) by September when we go to buy it. Unfortunately BBC policy prevents me from telling you the brand name of the server. I'm not going to disclose the value of the server package simply because the emphasis and spirit of the competition is promoting innovation and creativity in the UK, not on how much the server is worth! :) Regards, Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Walker > Sent: 25 July 2005 15:42 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk competition details > > > Ben Metcalfe wrote: > > > We've got the ultimate in Geek Bling for the grand prize: a > brand new > > rackmount server, delivered to your door. There's also two > 1Gig MP3 > > Players for the two runners up. > > I wouldn't be a true geek if I didn't ask what the specs of > those bits > of kit are; brand/model number please ;) > > Regards, > > C. > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ma> iling_list.html. > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Introducing Jem Stone...
Hello all, I'm pleased to announce Jem Stone has joined the backstage.bbc.co.uk team. Yes, that's his real name. No, Jem is not just a girl's name (well that's what he claims, anyway) Yes, he's a diamond geezer, etc... Those of you who attended the backstage.bbc.co.uk Open Tech event will have had the opportunity to meet him on our stand. Jem's been responsible for commissioning and overseeing many successful bbc.co.uk projects - and his expertise in this area will be vital in ensuring that as many of the best backstage.bbc.co.uk projects as possible get seen by the right people inside the BBC and potentially taken further. I'm sure you'll make him welcome. In fact, I'm off for a couple of days R&R as I've been flat out with the launch, so he'll be ensuring things are ticking over in the discussion group whilst I'm gone. Cheers Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories
backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 25 July 2005 at 15:42 + wrote: >Do you knock up prototypes? Yes - given time (in fact, i only ever do prototypes, and then it's coded with cannibalised code that hangs together with the software equivalent of gaffer tape.i don;t think i've ever got anything as far as a late beta...;-) however, i'm blagging minutes rather than hours for not-work stuff at the mo, and the pace of change on this list means that prototypes are appearing at the speed of thought... if only i could get time to put a bid in for the info mixing desk as a proper research project...(gazes longingly into the distance) [resonates with this from Matt. >I wish I could buy some time to get the annotation streams thing >up and running! ] re the info mixing desk - I thought i'd blogged about this a bit ago, but can;t find it anywhere expect for a couple of pages of scribbled notes in an old logbook, so i'm afraid i can;t link you to more detailed thoughts just at the mo... Original idea was just a rap on an rss equivalent of something like this: http://www.theatrecrafts.com/sound_mixingdesk.html that was more than eg just this: http://www.feedcombine.co.uk/st/content/makefeed/ (which doesn;t appear to be working at the mo?) Cf the sounddesk, the line feeds are RSS feeds. Eq allows you to filter results on keywords, perhaps (eg like +terms and -terms in search engines), auxiliaries i saw as sending the rss to some sort of feed processor that returns something pulled from the original feed (tho now i realise that what the aux's would more usefully do is provide Matt's annotationStreams...) The different channels/faders, allow you to set the weight of items from different RSS inputs(with added FX/annotations) in the overall output infomix. This could be another RSS feed, or it could be data plotted on a google map, or some other visualisation. The sounddesk graphic doesn;t have mute/solo buttons, etc, but they'd be there to allow the infomixer to check individual feeds etc. I had a scout around some time ago for exemplars (lazy as i am) and about the only thing i came across at the time that wasn't an RSS aggregator was this text mixing desk http://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/v4/cutup/textinput.php which is NOT the sort of thing i was thinking of... but it probably takes you to interesting places if you think around it a bit... In terms of FX, it's also quite a fruitful starting point thinking of info analogues to sound FX, though they soon breakdown - so for example an echo on a blog posting might be a quote from, or interpretation of, that blog on another blog; Re annotation feeds - another useful 'annotation' might be images or movies to illustrate a feed (so the info mising desk needs an 'add image' effect..:-) tony --- SEE THE WICKED ROBOT INVASION MAP http://www.wickedrobots.co.uk/ --- Mail tags: --- Tony Hirst mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://micro-info.blogspot.com/ Dept. of ICT, Faculty of Technology Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, UK Tel: +44 (0)19086 52789, m./SMS 07709 766223 http://robofesta.open.ac.uk/tony http://www.robofesta-uk.org - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
Thnx for the info, dan.
> track now playing in LiveText - the scrolling text you see on a DAB
>Digital Radio LCD screen or when listening to the radio over our DTT
>Freeview services etc. That kind of information ("The track now playing
>is...") is also available across several networks on LiveText
does LiveText get fed to the web anywhere at all (even as a diagnostic?),
or is a MAKE involving a DAB radio, hacking the display to generate acsii,
and then pushing that to the web via a server the only way to do it at the
mo? ;-)
tony
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Re: [backstage] What's playing now...
You can get PC DAB tuners, which might save you one step of hardware
hacking!
~nick~
PS Tony, glad you are still knocking the idea round since last time we
briefly discussed it (with my Txtbux hat on!)
Tony Hirst wrote:
Thnx for the info, dan.
track now playing in LiveText - the scrolling text you see on a DAB
Digital Radio LCD screen or when listening to the radio over our DTT
Freeview services etc. That kind of information ("The track now playing
is...") is also available across several networks on LiveText
does LiveText get fed to the web anywhere at all (even as a diagnostic?),
or is a MAKE involving a DAB radio, hacking the display to generate acsii,
and then pushing that to the web via a server the only way to do it at the
mo? ;-)
tony
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[backstage] Perl TV-Anytime Parser
Need... To... Go... home... Just as I was about to leave the office, my news reader flashed up this gem which has totally passed me by: http://search.cpan.org/~lbrocard/TV-Anytime-0.29/lib/TV/Anytime.pm >From the CPAN description page: DESCRIPTION The TV::Anytime module parses TV-Anytime bundles. TV-Anytime is a format organised by the TV-Anytime Forum (http://www.tv-anytime.org/). These are open standards (see ETSI TS102822) for the rich description of Radio, Television and other types of media. The metadata specification includes a comprehensive genre scheme, methods of linking and grouping programmes, listing credits and lots of other data fields. This module is concerned with parsing TV-Anytime files that are shipped by the British Broadcasting Corporation from http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/doc.html. It is assumed that you have downloaded a .tar.gz from this site and have unpacked it. For those of you looking to take part in our competition, this might just be a big help! Mad props to Leon Brocard for writing this. Leon, if you're on the list please step forward to receive appreciation from your fellow peers and from us here in the backstage.bbc.co.uk office! Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Introducing Jem Stone...
Hi Backstage list ~Thanks, as ever, to Ben for the respectful intro ;) I also keep a beady eye on this list so if any questions come up about the feeds, competition, licences, other BBC services I'll do my best to answer and/or pass em on. Thanks to everyone who attended on Saturday, blogged the official launch and have already fed back about some of the other BBC bits and bobs that were discussed or referred to at http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005/ Jem Stone, bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Perl TV-Anytime Parser
On 7/25/05, Ben Metcalfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mad props to Leon Brocard for writing this. Leon, if you're on the list > please step forward to receive appreciation from your fellow peers and > from us here in the backstage.bbc.co.uk office! Time for me to bow! Of course, this means that I've just helped everyone compete against me in the competition... ;-) Opentech was fun, Leon - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Re: ticker works fine!
I look forward to suggestions! I've sent this as a prototype to Backstage now and it might form part of the "TV competition" system, still thinking about it's potential uses! http://www.webcoding.co.uk/ticker.htm Cheers, Jim Paul Veltman wrote: Thanks James Look forward to dissecting it at leisure. Paul James wrote: Excellent. http://www.webcoding.co.uk/backstage-v0.3.zip It now includes a configuration xml file where you can specify as many feeds as you wish to load. You can also include the delay time for items and feeds, application width, height, alwaysontop mode, to have window borders or not. There are also options for color settings, static information string -- preferences.xml example -- true false 1024 50 2 8000 5000 - Backstage RSS Ticker v0.3 by [EMAIL PROTECTED], supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/front_page/rss.xml http://www.theregister.co.uk/headlines.rss Paul Veltman wrote: Hi James Just downloaded your News ticker - ( XP, Firefox 1.0.5, Java(TM) 2 Platform Standard Edition binary, File version: 5.0.20.9 / JRE 1.4.2_08) (sorry, I'm a newbie) Works beautifully. Can position it anywhere (but extends out beyond the right margin). Nice work. Must have a look at the source code, and see how this magic works. Cheers Paul Veltman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Oops
Apologies for the prev. email. Too large, wrong address, {insert feature
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Sorry about that.
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[backstage] 7DayListingData
A request/suggestion... Would it be possible if >in addition< to the all the zip archives to have just the current archive available unzipped. As a new archive is released the unzipped files could be removed and replaced with the new ones. Thanks Rob - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
