Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Dave Cross

Martin Belam wrote:

and somebody Sapnish could sort our my errant understanding of Madrid, 
where I'm not sure if my Real Madrid photos are hovering over their ground or

Atleticos - http://www.flickr.com/map/madrid


I'm not Spanish, but I can't see any of your photos around the Bernabeu 
Stadium. So I'm guessing that you got it wrong :)


Dave...
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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Rhys Jones

Up to a point, it's also bilingual:

http://www.flickr.com/map/abertawe
http://www.flickr.com/map/caerdydd

Though Caerfyrddin, = Carmarthen, doesn't give me anything.

Still, I'm very impressed.

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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Gordon Joly

At 17:20 +0100 10/11/06, Martin Belam wrote:
Now a useful feature would be the ability to drag someone's 
incorrectly placed photo across the map to the right spot.



Well, maybe who's data is it anyway?

http://www.flickr.com/groups/gwl-geotagged/

has no maps, as yet, but does have a interesting approach...

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RE: [backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread Ian Forrester
Hi All,
 
If your thinking about signing up some time during the weekend, I would suggest 
you forget about that idea. We're almost at 300 people signed up!

Sign up now and save yourself a lot of pain later :)

Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk

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Dec

Hi All,

We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the London Christmas 
Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the Cuban City Bar/Club (Moorgate).

There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're expected a full house.

[1] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
[2] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html

Cheers,

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RE: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Brendan Quinn



it has a bit under the copyright line that says "taken in london, england 
[map]" so presumably the creator, or someone else, went and clicked on that 
place in the map. Once you have a lat/long pair, it doesn't matter whether you 
use a postcode, area name, box drawn on a picture, or something else, it all 
just comes down to number comparison... I'm sure they just map "London N8" to a 
particular bounding box of X/Y coordinates or lat/long 
pairs.
 
You're not dumb, you probably just missed the "taken in london" bit like 
I nearly did ;-)
 
Brendan.


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BoardwellSent: 10 November 2006 17:05To: 
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo 
Map...
well - "you're looking at all geo-tagged photos in london" is a bit 
misleading / ambiguous.  wouldn't it be better to pull out the geo data and 
then use the semantic data [words] of places etc? that would at least allow for 
some value on the photos themselves. they could then say with greater confidence 
where the image 'is'.having said that it's great how it can take in 
multiple geo-data 'types' e.g. postcode!  http://www.flickr.com/map/N8+ukbut how does flickr know 
that this photo was taken in N8 for e.g.?http://www.flickr.com/photos/festivalhall/249180992/sure 
the kings head pub is in crouch end which is in N8 but this isn't explicitly 
stated on the page.  is flickr cross referencing crouch end with postcode 
data? sorry - i'm dumb. ;-)JB
On 11/10/06, Andrew 
Disley < 
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  On 10 Nov 2006, at 16:09, James Boardwell wrote: 
  is 
there any pref given to the data?  i.e. geodata / celldata over tags: 
lodon, greenpark? is it possible to 
  tell?  
  From the page itself:
  
  "You're looking at 
  All geotagged photos in 
  London."
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RE: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Jason Cartwright



Not sure what you mean, but I'll attempt to answer the 
question anyhow :-).
 
I believe it only uses photos that users have geotagged 
using Flickr's geotagging system - therefore does not try and derive a location 
from the text tags.
 
This section of the help suggests that too... http://www.flickr.com/help/organizr/#200
 
J


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BoardwellSent: 10 November 2006 16:10To: 
backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo 
Map...
is there any pref given to the data?  i.e. geodata / celldata 
over tags: lodon, greenpark? is it possible to tell?  
On 11/10/06, Jason 
Cartwright < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
I 
  think the pages is a limitation of the technology, and perhaps ausability 
  'feature' for showing that there is actually more results thanthe map can 
  comfortably show.When you move around the map, and land in one place 
  the JS fires off a request to the API method "flickr.photos.search" [1] 
  passing the maparea [2] and asking for 200 results back [3] in order of 
  relevance [4].I guess they limit the number of results for speed (both 
  backend database load, and frontend downloading, parsing and displaying 
  theresults) - hence the pages.J[1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html 
  [2] argument "bbox", example 
  value"-0.117405,51.458997,-0.092836,51.469902" - near where I live, 
  crumbs![3] argument "per_page", example (default) value "200"[4] 
  argument "sort", example value "relevance" 
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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread James Boardwell
well - "you're looking at all geo-tagged photos in london" is a bit misleading / ambiguous.  wouldn't it be better to pull out the geo data and then use the semantic data [words] of places etc? that would at least allow for some value on the photos themselves. 
they could then say with greater confidence where the image 'is'.having said that it's great how it can take in multiple geo-data 'types' e.g. postcode!  
http://www.flickr.com/map/N8+ukbut how does flickr know that this photo was taken in N8 for 
e.g.?http://www.flickr.com/photos/festivalhall/249180992/sure the kings head pub is in crouch end which is in N8 but this isn't explicitly stated on the page.  is flickr cross referencing crouch end with postcode data?
sorry - i'm dumb. ;-)JBOn 11/10/06, Andrew Disley <
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> wrote:On 10 Nov 2006, at 16:09, James Boardwell wrote:


is there any pref given to the data?  i.e. geodata / celldata over tags: lodon, greenpark? is it possible to tell?  From the page itself:"You're looking at
All geotagged photos in London."
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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Andrew Disley
On 10 Nov 2006, at 16:09, James Boardwell wrote:is there any pref given to the data?  i.e. geodata / celldata over tags: lodon, greenpark? is it possible to tell?  From the page itself:"You're looking atAll geotagged photos in London."

RE: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Brendan Quinn
I think that's a fluke, it looks like they just use some kind of
best-guess-based-on-popularity thing:
http://www.flickr.com/map/cambridge gives me Boston rather than the
university town north of London.

http://www.flickr.com/map/cambridge+UK works, though.

Brendan.

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wow, this one blows me away:

http://www.flickr.com/map/birmingham

does it know I'm geoIP'd in the UK? 

is anyone in the states right now? does this URL show you birmingham,
alabama or brum? 


best--

--cs

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http://www.flickr.com/map/london/

Nice... 

Though I don't understand the logic behind the 'pages' approach

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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Martin Belam
Now a useful feature would be the ability to drag someone's incorrectly placed photo across the map to the right spot.That way I could stop greyhounds winning races a good bus ride away from Walthamstow's dog stadium - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/emsef/227626652/ - and somebody Sapnish could sort our my errant understanding of Madrid, where I'm not sure if my Real Madrid photos are hovering over their ground or Atleticos - 
http://www.flickr.com/map/madridPerhaps you could get a message like "Such-and-such Flickr person has suggested respositioning photo x to here"I wonder how many URLs like this there are - it gets down to some pretty small places
http://www.flickr.com/map/chania (pop 60,000, Crete)and it even makes a semi-passable stab at http://www.flickr.com/map/yorkshire
all the best,martinhttp://www.currybet.netOn 10/11/06, Chris Sizemore <
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http://www.flickr.com/map/birminghamdoes it know I'm geoIP'd in the UK?is anyone in the states right now? does this URL show you birmingham,alabama or brum?
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Re: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread James Boardwell
is there any pref given to the data?  i.e. geodata / celldata over tags: lodon, greenpark? is it possible to tell?  On 11/10/06, Jason Cartwright <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the pages is a limitation of the technology, and perhaps ausability 'feature' for showing that there is actually more results thanthe map can comfortably show.When you move around the map, and land in one place the JS fires off a
request to the API method "flickr.photos.search" [1] passing the maparea [2] and asking for 200 results back [3] in order of relevance [4].I guess they limit the number of results for speed (both backend
database load, and frontend downloading, parsing and displaying theresults) - hence the pages.J[1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html
[2] argument "bbox", example value"-0.117405,51.458997,-0.092836,51.469902" - near where I live, crumbs![3] argument "per_page", example (default) value "200"[4] argument "sort", example value "relevance"
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RE: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Chris Sizemore
wow, this one blows me away:

http://www.flickr.com/map/birmingham

does it know I'm geoIP'd in the UK? 

is anyone in the states right now? does this URL show you birmingham,
alabama or brum? 


best--

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http://www.flickr.com/map/london/

Nice... 

Though I don't understand the logic behind the 'pages' approach

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RE: [backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Jason Cartwright
I think the pages is a limitation of the technology, and perhaps a
usability 'feature' for showing that there is actually more results than
the map can comfortably show.

When you move around the map, and land in one place the JS fires off a
request to the API method "flickr.photos.search" [1] passing the map
area [2] and asking for 200 results back [3] in order of relevance [4].
I guess they limit the number of results for speed (both backend
database load, and frontend downloading, parsing and displaying the
results) - hence the pages.

J


[1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html
[2] argument "bbox", example value
"-0.117405,51.458997,-0.092836,51.469902" - near where I live, crumbs!
[3] argument "per_page", example (default) value "200"
[4] argument "sort", example value "relevance"


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http://www.flickr.com/map/london/

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[backstage] Flickr Photo Map...

2006-11-10 Thread Tom Loosemore
http://www.flickr.com/map/london/

Nice... 

Though I don't understand the logic behind the 'pages' approach

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RE: [backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread Ian Forrester
There welcome to sign up but this is the official list now 


Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965
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9th Dec

Is it okay for groups outside of london to do the same?

GeekUp would love to be associated, will pass on the word to the folks up 
here...

Cheers
-dan

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> Sent: 10 November 2006 13:50
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> Bash - Sat 9th Dec
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> LondonSEO (http://londonseo.org) would love to be part of this event.
> Could you list us with the groups attending on 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html?
> I'll post a link to the registration form on our site.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/06, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the
> London Christmas Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the Cuban City 
> Bar/Club (Moorgate).
> >
> > There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're
> expected a full house.
> >
> > [1] -
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
> > [2] -
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965
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RE: [backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread David Shaw
Is there a Scottish Version? 


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- Sat 9th Dec

Is it okay for groups outside of london to do the same?

GeekUp would love to be associated, will pass on the word to the folks
up here...

Cheers
-dan

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> Bash - Sat 9th Dec
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> LondonSEO (http://londonseo.org) would love to be part of this event.
> Could you list us with the groups attending on 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html?
> I'll post a link to the registration form on our site.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/11/06, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the
> London Christmas Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the Cuban City 
> Bar/Club (Moorgate).
> >
> > There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're
> expected a full house.
> >
> > [1] -
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
> > [2] -
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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RE: [backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread Daniel Morris
Is it okay for groups outside of london to do the same?

GeekUp would love to be associated, will pass on the word to the folks
up here...

Cheers
-dan

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> Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec
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> Hi Ian,
> 
> LondonSEO (http://londonseo.org) would love to be part of this event.
> Could you list us with the groups attending on 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html?
> I'll post a link to the registration form on our site.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rob
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> 
> 
> On 10/11/06, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the 
> London Christmas Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the 
> Cuban City Bar/Club (Moorgate).
> >
> > There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're 
> expected a full house.
> >
> > [1] - 
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
> > [2] - 
> > 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html
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> > Cheers,
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Re: [backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread Robert Kerry

Hi Ian,

LondonSEO (http://londonseo.org) would love to be part of this event.
Could you list us with the groups attending on
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html?
I'll post a link to the registration form on our site.


Cheers,

Rob



On 10/11/06, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,

We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the London Christmas 
Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the Cuban City Bar/Club (Moorgate).

There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're expected a full house.

[1] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
[2] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html

Cheers,

Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965

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[backstage] Signup now! BBC Backstage London Christmas Bash - Sat 9th Dec

2006-11-10 Thread Ian Forrester
Hi All,

We are pleased to announce the sign up process [1] for the London Christmas 
Bash [2] on Saturday 9th December in the Cuban City Bar/Club (Moorgate).

There are only 400 spaces, so please signup soon. We're expected a full house.

[1] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/11/christmas_party.html
[2] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/bbc_backstage_l.html

Cheers,

Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965

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