[backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd

web jobs to go?

according to the front page of today's Times:
The corporation’s web pages are to be halved, backed by a 25 per cent  
cut in staff numbers.

http://bit.ly/webjobstogo

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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:14, Jonathan Chetwynd
j.chetw...@btinternet.com wrote:

 The corporation’s web pages are to be halved

I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.

My off-the-cuff thoughts on it last night:

http://nevali.net/post/412092568/bbc-signals-an-end-to-an-era-of-expansion

M.

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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Gavin Johnson
On 26/02/2010 10:58, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:14, Jonathan Chetwynd
 j.chetw...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 The corporation¹s web pages are to be halved
 
 I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
 determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.
 
 My off-the-cuff thoughts on it last night:
 
 http://nevali.net/post/412092568/bbc-signals-an-end-to-an-era-of-expansion

That's a good post, Mo and I'm sure many here appreciate it.

The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
'more local' level than is currently the case.

because

(a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
(b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media

My personal opinion of course.

Gavin


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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 14:28, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

 The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
 'more local' level than is currently the case.

 because

 (a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
 (b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media

this goes back to the old 'will a commercial replacement fill the
gap?' argument, and I did allude to it to an extent in that post: my
guess is 'no, it won't', and I don't think much of that's the BBC's
fault, really. the marketplace is changing, and the commercial
environment is also changing. localised content is a very different
game to ten - or even five - years ago. given that, I'd err more
towards the BBC providing such services so that *somebody* will, even
if that's under a relatively tight remit so that feature-creep doesn't
have a negative effect upon commercial services in related areas.

M.
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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Tim Dobson

Mo McRoberts wrote:

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 14:28, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote:


The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
'more local' level than is currently the case.

because

(a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
(b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media


this goes back to the old 'will a commercial replacement fill the
gap?' argument, and I did allude to it to an extent in that post: my
guess is 'no, it won't', and I don't think much of that's the BBC's
fault, really. the marketplace is changing, and the commercial
environment is also changing. localised content is a very different
game to ten - or even five - years ago. given that, I'd err more
towards the BBC providing such services so that *somebody* will, even
if that's under a relatively tight remit so that feature-creep doesn't
have a negative effect upon commercial services in related areas.


If Radio licences from Ofcom weren't so extortionate then we might see 
more community stations providing local content.


The US has so many non-profit radio stations that it is hard to see why 
it is worth making permanent broadcast licences such commercial 
challenge to get.


I mean WBAI New York[1] is probably one of the best non-profit stations 
out there but there are literally droves of them. Why we don't seem to 
want the UK to have this is beyond me... :-/


Cheers,

Tim

[1] well worth checking out: http://www.wbai.org/
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[backstage] RE: s...@bbc?

2010-02-26 Thread Ian Forrester
The XML file i'm talking about are mainly stuck in content management systems.
 
But i highly suggest you look at the XML in 
http://mammoth.welcomebackstage.com/exist/rest/db/feeds/ at some point soon. 
(the server is being worked on so try in a few days)

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1st Floor Office, OB Base,
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Manchester, M60 1SJ 

 




From: Jonathan Chetwynd [mailto:j.chetw...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2010 15:42
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Cc: Ian Forrester
Subject: Re: s...@bbc?


Ian, 

could you point to any particularly suitable xml files?

eg http://www.honte.eu/playGo/games/Shusai-GoSeigen-19340119.xml

xslt transforms client-side into an SVG board with pieces, that are 
played and captured using css, 
but could as easily be an html list of moves.

regards

Jonathan

On 25 Feb 2010, at 13:00, Ian Forrester wrote:


To my mind I can't think of any example of the BBC publishing 
or generating SVG, but I know quite a few of our content management systems 
could generate SVG tomorrow if there was the desire, take up and need.
 
Cheers

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BBC RD North Lab,
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New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
Manchester, M60 1SJ 

 




From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd
Sent: 25 February 2010 12:36
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] s...@bbc?


s...@bbc? 

Has the BBC published anything at all in SVG* format?

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd


* Internet Explorer may soon support SVG**, and 
Ordinance Survey, National Standards Office and the Meteorological Office 
already publish data in SVG format...
and standards based browsers now have an xslt 
processors, and this can provide a convenient client-side method for 
transforming xml into SVG.




**Patrick Dengler
Senior Program Manager
Internet Explorer Team
yesterday we submitted our request to join the Scalable 
Vector Graphics (SVG) Working Group http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/  of the 
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) http://www.w3.org/ 

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/01/05/microsoft-joins-w3c-svg-working-group.aspx



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RE: [backstage] MHEG+

2010-02-26 Thread Ian Forrester
I'll ping Nick about this, but I got a feeling that maybe this was pre-Canvas?

Cheers,

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From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] 
On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts
Sent: 21 February 2010 00:45
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] MHEG+

¡Hola!

From the old BBCi Labs blog:

“2. At 10:44am on 08 Jul 2008, nickgallon wrote:

The MHEG+ toolkit is going to be made available via backstage very soon. We're 
just making sure that everything is in order legally before we post it. 
Hopefully, there will be an announcement via this blog when we get the all 
clear.

Cheers
Nick”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcilabs/2008/07/mashed_interactive_tv.html

Without wishing to nitpick, Feb 2010 isn’t really “very soon” from July 2008 :)

Anybody got any ideas what the hold-up is, and whether they’re issues which can 
be resolved?

Cheers!

M.
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Re: [backstage] MHEG+

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 16:40, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 I'll ping Nick about this, but I got a feeling that maybe this was pre-Canvas?

If memory's not failing me, yes, I _believe_ so.

M.
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[backstage] Cross platform and open widgets

2010-02-26 Thread Ian Forrester
Yes I know widgets are so 2008 but its interesting that the W3's Mobile widget 
spec is actually being used for Opera's Widget platform. HTML, CSS, JavaScript 
and SVG, seems ideal ground for developers to quickly make useful widgets

http://labs.opera.com/news/2010/02/18/
http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/10/15/

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Re: [backstage] Cross platform and open widgets

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 17:17, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 Yes I know widgets are so 2008 but its interesting that the W3's Mobile 
 widget spec is actually being used for Opera's Widget platform. HTML, CSS, 
 JavaScript and SVG, seems ideal ground for developers to quickly make useful 
 widgets

Hey, I use widgets regularly! There's even a key on my keyboard
specifically (marked) for displaying all the widgets I have enabled
(but I am a dirty Mac user).

I tend not to hold out much hope when it comes to Opera's neat
innovations: they don't really have the market-share to drive
horizontal uptake, as it were. Most of this stuff tends to end up
languishing along with the rest of the browser (from the perspective
of the number of people actually using it, I mean).

M.
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[backstage] Re: BBC Experimental Website Down?

2010-02-26 Thread Tim Coysh
Sorry for bringing up a fairly old topic.

The website is again down, though it is temporary. Is there a reason for
this? Or is just unexpected downtime? My website relies heavily on this
information.

Again, Sorry for the hastle!

Tim


Re: [backstage] Re: BBC Experimental Website Down?

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts

On 26-Feb-2010, at 18:05, Tim Coysh wrote:

 Sorry for bringing up a fairly old topic.
 
 The website is again down, though it is temporary. Is there a reason for 
 this? Or is just unexpected downtime? My website relies heavily on this 
 information.
 
 Again, Sorry for the hastle!


I would place a wild guess that it’s probably being moved from one bit of 
England to another ;)

(Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, it really was a wild, if 
slightly educated, guess!)

M.
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[backstage] A quick Dolby E question

2010-02-26 Thread Kieran Kunhya
A teeny bit off-topic but I'm sure there are people on the list that know the 
answer.

Does 24-bit Dolby E actually exist? If so what produces it?

Thanks in advance.

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