[backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On 22/08/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/tandc.shtml ... 12. You agree: to not attempt to, or assist any other person to *reverse engineer*, * de-compile*, *disassemble*, *alter*, duplicate, *modify*, rent, lease, loan, sub-licence, make copies, *create derivative works from*, distribute or provide others with the BBC iPlayer Library in whole or part, except as expressly permitted in these Terms and to the extent permitted by law; I think Google call this the usual yar di dar... On 22/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On 22/08/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
Fair enough, though I still think that it's counter-productive, secondly, and upon closer reading, I notice that the T Cs and the EULA are one and the same; so my previous complaint about the EULA has been partly rendered null and void. For once I could and should have read the EULA before downloading. Though why they (along with 99.99% of all software devs.) felt the need to shove it in my face whilst installing I'll never understand. Vijay. On 22/08/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/tandc.shtml ... 12. You agree: to not attempt to, or assist any other person to *reverse engineer*, * de-compile*, *disassemble*, *alter*, duplicate, *modify*, rent, lease, loan, sub-licence, make copies, *create derivative works from*, distribute or provide others with the BBC iPlayer Library in whole or part, except as expressly permitted in these Terms and to the extent permitted by law; I think Google call this the usual yar di dar... On 22/08/07, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On 22/08/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, Sean Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
Err. They are not 'reverse engineer, de-compile, disassemble, alter, modify, or create derivative works from AFAICS They are modifying Wine to correctly respond to the API calls that the iPlayer makes. Hmm... wonder what this does to the DRM David Brian Butterworth wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/tandc.shtml ... 12. You agree: # to not attempt to, or assist any other person to *reverse engineer*, *de-compile*, *disassemble*, *alter*, duplicate, *modify*, rent, lease, loan, sub-licence, make copies, *create derivative works from*, distribute or provide others with the BBC iPlayer Library in whole or part, except as expressly permitted in these Terms and to the extent permitted by law; I think Google call this the usual yar di dar... On 22/08/07, *vijay chopra* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On 22/08/07, *Brian Butterworth* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, *Sean Dillon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Linux Port of iPlayer
That's an interesting approach, but I guess it's quicker than decompiling iPlayer then rebuilding it from the ground up; I would guess that if WINE works correctly, the DRM stays, afterall that's what WINE is meant to do, implement all the features of windows, natively in Linux. The days of MSDRM are limited anyway, it won't be long before someone develops tools like these: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943 that auto-run when iPlayer finishes downloading. Of course, that would almost certainlybe a breech of the T Cs Vijay. On 22/08/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Err. They are not 'reverse engineer, de-compile, disassemble, alter, modify, or create derivative works from AFAICS They are modifying Wine to correctly respond to the API calls that the iPlayer makes. Hmm... wonder what this does to the DRM David Brian Butterworth wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerbeta/tandc.shtml ... 12. You agree: # to not attempt to, or assist any other person to *reverse engineer*, *de-compile*, *disassemble*, *alter*, duplicate, *modify*, rent, lease, loan, sub-licence, make copies, *create derivative works from*, distribute or provide others with the BBC iPlayer Library in whole or part, except as expressly permitted in these Terms and to the extent permitted by law; I think Google call this the usual yar di dar... On 22/08/07, *vijay chopra* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly where in the T Cs does it say thou shalt not port iPlayer to another platform? (If someone point's out a clause in the EULA, I shall point and laugh). Personally I'd think that Auntie would be glad for the help, the Beeb is comitted to making iPlayer platform neutral, right? Vijay. On 22/08/07, *Brian Butterworth* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn''t this break the TCs ? On 22/08/07, *Sean Dillon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't recall seeing this posted here, but then again it might have gotten lost in all the noise or I may have been too bone idle to actually remember what I've read. http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page http://bbciplayerlinux.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page BBC iPlayer on Linux project Wiki This is a project to bring the BBC iPlayer to the GNU/Linux and *BSD/Mac OSX Operating Systems. The BBC has been heavily criticised for not providing iPlayer on Mac OSX or Linux. This is something that the iPlayer on Linux project hopes to fix. Although initially this project aims to put the iPlayer on Linux, porting (via wine) to BSD/Mac OSX is a very simple task. Seán - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
