RE: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread Kim Plowright
Be slightly tempted to then plumb that into a screensaver that shows you
pictures of your team's classic moments when they've won, and comforting
pictures of kittens when they're doing less well. 

You know, to cheer you up, like...


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Just thinking out loud here (so feel free to ignore :-) ) but be nice to
have a sports version of mood news and let me specify which teams I like
in a positive context and which ones are good in a negative context:

England win - Positive and Good News
Australia win - Positive yet Bad News
England lose - Negative and Bad News
Australia lose - Negative yet Good News!?!

Guess it depends how you are defining good and bad...


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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:34 PM
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Subject: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

Hi Folks,

Just added some personalisation features to Mood News. You can specify
some keywords to track stories on which are presented in Good to Bad
order.

 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

Cookies and Javascript required. Also there have been numerous backend
tweaks and most of the javascript has been optimised.

Anyway while putting it together I wondered if anyone fancied taking on
this little idea... How about a Google News style page for BBC content.
It would be handy to have single customisable page to view all to
stories arranged by topics. I'd read it - promise :-)

Thanks,
Davy Mitchell

Mood News
 - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as   Good,   Bad or   Neutral.
 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

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RE: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread David Sargeant
Sounds good. You might need to save the kittens for me until Germany next
year...
 

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Be slightly tempted to then plumb that into a screensaver that shows you
pictures of your team's classic moments when they've won, and comforting
pictures of kittens when they're doing less well. 

You know, to cheer you up, like...


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Just thinking out loud here (so feel free to ignore :-) ) but be nice to
have a sports version of mood news and let me specify which teams I like in
a positive context and which ones are good in a negative context:

England win - Positive and Good News
Australia win - Positive yet Bad News
England lose - Negative and Bad News
Australia lose - Negative yet Good News!?!

Guess it depends how you are defining good and bad...


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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:34 PM
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Subject: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

Hi Folks,

Just added some personalisation features to Mood News. You can specify some
keywords to track stories on which are presented in Good to Bad order.

 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

Cookies and Javascript required. Also there have been numerous backend
tweaks and most of the javascript has been optimised.

Anyway while putting it together I wondered if anyone fancied taking on this
little idea... How about a Google News style page for BBC content.
It would be handy to have single customisable page to view all to stories
arranged by topics. I'd read it - promise :-)

Thanks,
Davy Mitchell

Mood News
 - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as   Good,   Bad or   Neutral.
 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

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Re: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread Nick Kaijaks

David Sargeant wrote:

Sounds good. You might need to save the kittens for me until Germany next
year...


'Save all your kittens for me' - sounds like a Brotherhood of Man mashup...

Coming back on-topic, how about using the convention of a + or - prefix 
on your personalising keywords to indicate whether you have a 
particularly positive or negative association. So, you could have:


+england -australia to tailor your cricket mood news.

Although I wonder if that would be too much of a conflict with 
traditional inclusion/exclusion meaning. Quick, need a focus group :-)


Best,
Nick
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Re: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread Davy Mitchell
On 11/15/05, Ben Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you be able to flesh out a little
 more about your aspirations for a Google News type proposition for it?
 That sounds really interesting too, but I'd love to hear your take on it

The Google News idea is more of a general layout idea rather than a
Mood News expansion. The current BBC site is very hierarchical with 4
columns in contrast to the flat/wide/scrolling Google News page with
2(3 at top) columns. A layout of the BBC content like this would be
interesting. Obviously a page like this needs a layout algorithm so
the Mood News scoring might help for example a Good, Bad and Neutral
story from each category. However a simple date sort might be better
:-)

Thanks to everyone else for the ideas regarding sport, personalising
and kittens. Very interesting. Currently Mood News has no domain
knowledge. It would be a very interesting experiment to make it, say,
support a football team or political party and spin the news according
to the bias.

Oh well off to squish some bugs!

Cheers,
Davy Mitchell

Mood News
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 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

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Re: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread Andrew Deakin
This may seem stupid - but user input on whether the story was positive 
or negative, so say if the All Blacks win their next match against 
England (which will happen), and your system rates it as awesome, say 
people who have a membership can rate the news as bad and it will move 
into that category


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RE: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-15 Thread Clare OLeary
Hi Andrew
I'm glad you have so much faith in the All Blacks! That's a good news story
even if the outcome from your perspective is bad and if the world is
watching rather than just the English/Irish/Welsh/Scottish then 'bad' is
relative...:) as is all the new interactive news and entertainment as it all
becomes personalised, customised and mobilised, maybe nothing will be
good/bad black/white...it'll all be POV

What about mobile development with Backstage - scuse me if i haven't kept up
but is that part of the pilot? watching the bbc on our ipods?

I have to admit i only watched my first full game of rugby a month ago when
dan carter of the all blacks was player of the match and it was a pretty
awesome game...:)

Go the A.B.'s!

Clare O'Leary
New Zealand
Eve Bay Studio
Creative  Digital Research  Production
www.evebaystudio.co.nz
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This may seem stupid - but user input on whether the story was positive
or negative, so say if the All Blacks win their next match against
England (which will happen), and your system rates it as awesome, say
people who have a membership can rate the news as bad and it will move
into that category

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RE: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

2005-11-14 Thread David Sargeant
Just thinking out loud here (so feel free to ignore :-) ) but be nice to
have a sports version of mood news and let me specify which teams I like in
a positive context and which ones are good in a negative context:

England win - Positive and Good News
Australia win - Positive yet Bad News
England lose - Negative and Bad News
Australia lose - Negative yet Good News!?!

Guess it depends how you are defining good and bad...


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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:34 PM
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Subject: [backstage] Mood News Update and an Idea

Hi Folks,

Just added some personalisation features to Mood News. You can specify some
keywords to track stories on which are presented in Good to Bad order.

 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

Cookies and Javascript required. Also there have been numerous backend
tweaks and most of the javascript has been optimised.

Anyway while putting it together I wondered if anyone fancied taking on this
little idea... How about a Google News style page for BBC content. It would
be handy to have single customisable page to view all to stories arranged by
topics. I'd read it - promise :-)

Thanks,
Davy Mitchell

Mood News
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 http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/

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