[BackupPC-users] exculde Media types

2006-03-15 Thread xspace
hello,

How to setup Backuppc to exculde Media types like mp3,avi,mpg,ram and so
on 

Im using Backuppc with tar over ssh method 




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[BackupPC-users] Windows XP reboots while rsyncing

2006-03-15 Thread Alain

Hi all,

We have two Windows XP hosts that sometimes reboots while backuppc is 
backing up datas from these hosts.

The backup method chosen on both hosts is rsyncd.
It seems that the problem occurs while running a X11 server on these hosts.
Has anyone ever seen this problem ?

Thanks,

Alain


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[BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Khaled Hussain
Hi all,

I have setup a software raid5 array consisting of 3 sata hard drives with a
small boot partition at the beginning of the first disk. Therefore the setup
is as follows:
_
sda | /boot | swap  |   raid5   
|
|___|___|___|


sdb |   raid5   |   
|
|___|___|


sdc |   raid5   |   
|
|___|___|


The purpose of what I would like to do arrises from the fact that in the
event of sda failure, I wont be able to boot the raid array. Therefore,
perhaps I can make a one off backup of the /boot partition to backuppc and
then should failure happen, I can just restore the backup of the /boot
partition and have the machine boot, and raid5 will automatically recreate
the failed raid partition on sda.
I hope this makes sense; please correct me if I'm wrong.

However, another option I am considering and am pushing for is to copy the
boot partition over to sdb and sdc (in the area available after the raid
partition). I know this can be done using the dd command but finding out
where the free partitions on sdb and sdc start aswell as where the /boot
partition ends is giving me problems. The partitions dont seem to add up!

FYI:
df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0  540G  1.4G  511G   1% /
/dev/sda1  76M   13M   60M  18% /boot
/dev/shm  501M 0  501M   0% /dev/shm

hdparm /dev/sdXX

/dev/sda1:
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 36483/255/63, sectors = 82220544, start = 63

/dev/sda2:
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 36483/255/63, sectors = 1061061120, start = 160650

/dev/sda3:
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 36483/255/63, sectors = 298939576320, start = 2233035

/dev/sdb1:
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 36481/255/63, sectors = 300066407424, start = 63

/dev/sdc1:
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 36481/255/63, sectors = 300066407424, start = 63

As far as I understand, with raid5, all raid5 partitions have to be the same
size, so why aren't sda3, sdb1, sdc1 not the same size?

I appreciate this is slightly off-topic but please advise me.

Kindest Regards

Khaled Hussain
Server Administrator
Coulomb Ltd







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Re: [BackupPC-users] exculde Media types

2006-03-15 Thread Michał Panasiewicz
Dnia 15-03-2006, śro o godzinie 10:19 +0100, xspace napisał(a):
 hello,
 
 How to setup Backuppc to exculde Media types like mp3,avi,mpg,ram and so
 on 
 
 Im using Backuppc with tar over ssh method 

# For tar, if the exclude file contains a / it is assumed to be
anchored
# at the start of the string.  Since all the tar paths start with ./,
# BackupPC prepends a . if the exclude file starts with a /.  Note
# that GNU tar version = 1.13.7 is required for the exclude option to
# work correctly.  For linux or unix machines you should add
# /proc to $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} unless you have specified
# --one-file-system in $Conf{TarClientCmd} or --one-file-system in
# $Conf{RsyncArgs}.  Also, for tar, do not use a trailing / in
# the directory name: a trailing / causes the name to not match
# and the directory will not be excluded.

for rsyncd is:
$Conf{RsyncArgs} = [
# Do not edit these!
'--numeric-ids',
'--perms',
'--owner',
'--group',
'--devices',
'--links',
'--times',
'--block-size=2048',
'--recursive',
# If you are using a patched client rsync that supports the
# --checksum-seed option (see
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net),
# then uncomment this to enabled rsync checksum cachcing
#'--checksum-seed=32761',
# Add additional arguments here
'--exclude','*/temp/*',
'--exclude','/*/Ustawienia lokalne/Temp/*',
'--exclude','*/windows/temp/*',
'--exclude','*/tmp/*',
'--exclude','*/temporary/*',
'--exclude','*/Ustawienia lokalne/Temporary Internet
Files/*',
'--exclude','*/Cookies/*',
'--exclude','*/Firefox/Profiles/*/Cache*',
'--exclude','/Default User/*',
'--exclude','/LocalService/*',
'--exclude','/NetworkService/*',
'--exclude','/SvcwRsync/*',
'--exclude','/cwrsync/*',
'--exclude','/Go%9C%E6/*',
'--exclude','*.[Tt][Mm][Pp]',
'--exclude','*.[Bb][Aa][Kk]',
'--exclude','*.[Oo][Ll][Dd]',
'--exclude','~*',
'--exclude','*~',
'--exclude','*.[Mm][Pp]3',
'--exclude','*.[Aa][Vv][Ii]',
'--exclude','*.[Mm][Pp]2',
'--exclude','*.[Vv][Oo][Bb]',
'--exclude','*.[Ww][Mm][Aa]',
'--exclude','*.[Ww][Aa][Vv]',
'--exclude','*.[Ii][Ss][Oo]',
];

for smb:

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} =  [
'*/temp',
'*/Ustawienia lokalne/Temp',
'/windows/temp',
'*/tmp',
'*/temporary',
'*/Ustawienia lokalne/Temporary Internet
Files',
'*/Cookies/*',
'/Default User',
'/LocalService',
'/NetworkService',
'/SvcwRsync',
'*.[Tt][Mm][Pp]',
'*.[Bb][Aa][Kk]',
'*.[Oo][Ll][Dd]',
'~*','*~',
'*.[Mm][Pp]3',
'*.[Aa][Vv][Ii]',
'*.[Mm][Pp]2',
'*.[Vv][Oo][Bb]',
'*.[Ww][Mm][Aa]',
'*.[Ww][Aa][Vv]',
'*.[Ii][Ss][Oo]',
];

-- 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/15 11:28 , Khaled Hussain wrote:
 As far as I understand, with raid5, all raid5 partitions have to be the same
 size, so why aren't sda3, sdb1, sdc1 not the same size?

With linux software RAID, the partitions don't have to be the same size
(last I knew). You only get data protection up to the size of the smallest
partition tho. (I don't remember whether it continues filling up space on
the remaining drives, or whether it just runs out of space at that point
tho. I would suspect the latter).

I have a few pieces of advice for you:
- Avoid software RAID if possible, especially in a commercial environment.
  The cost of a 3ware controller pretty much covers the time saved when a
  disk dies and you don't have to spend a couple hours monkeying with the
  array. (Software RAID arrays sometimes make the box fall over anyway when
  a disk dies. Your data may be saved, but the box still crashes.)

- if you want a separate boot device for whatever reason, just put it on a
  wholly separate disk (or array of disks).  I would suggest putting your
  important data on the array, and then the rest of the OS on the other
  drive.  This way, if your boot/root disk dies, your important data is
  saved. If your array has problems, the boot/root disk provides the tools
  to fix it.

- you can back up your boot/root drive with something like Mondo
  http://www.mondorescue.com/. Make that backup to CD, and when you need it,
  just put the CD in the drive, boot from it, and restore your system in
  whole or in part.

-- 
Carl Soderstrom
Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com


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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/15 03:44 , Guus Houtzager wrote:
 It will use the largest common size of all 3 partitions. So if you've
 got for instance sda3 = 90 GB, sdb1 = 100 GB and sdc1 = 95 GB, your
 raid5 will be built from 3 x 90 GB. The leftover space of the partitions
 sdb1 and sdc1 will not be used.

thanks for the clarification. :)

 A problem with hardware raid is that if your raidcontroller dies, you
 need exactly the same controller to get your array to work again. 

your point is valid. :)
that said, I haven't had a real problem with 3ware controllers dying.
(Promise Supertraks are another matter, but perhaps the bugs have been
sorted out by now).

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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Matt


Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:

A problem with hardware raid is that if your raidcontroller dies, you
need exactly the same controller to get your array to work again. 



your point is valid. :)
that said, I haven't had a real problem with 3ware controllers dying.
(Promise Supertraks are another matter, but perhaps the bugs have been
sorted out by now).
  


We had problem with both Supertraks and 3ware controllers.   The
Supertrak  problems may be related to using ide disks while  the 3ware
problems were (unfortunately not quite) DOA.

   Furthermore, I  find the setup with raid controllers tedious: The
modules often don't come with the distro and more often than not they do
not load at boot forcing me  to tweak /etc/rc.local.

Anyway based on theses experiences I will only uses software raid unless
we really need every  CPU cycles.  That said, I fortunately do not have
a lot of experience with having to recover from software raid: up until
now I only once had one software raid-5 go critical.

Re Khaled Hussain issues:

Linux can boot from raid-1. So you could chop off a partition from sdb
for / and put swap on sdc.  Another approach is to have  alternative
installation on a partition on sdb.  This can be quite convenient for
upgrades and error recovery.

My 2 cc.

... Matt


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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/15 10:50 , Matt wrote:
Furthermore, I  find the setup with raid controllers tedious: The
 modules often don't come with the distro and more often than not they do
 not load at boot forcing me  to tweak /etc/rc.local.

haven't had that problem with 3ware controllers. linux kernels have had the
drivers built in by default for years now. 

the 9000 series controllers require a 2.6.14 kernel or better, but that's
the only issue I've had recently.

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Real-Time Enterprises
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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Nate Carlson

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
the 9000 series controllers require a 2.6.14 kernel or better, but 
that's the only issue I've had recently.


Yeah, the 9550SX's need 2.6.14.. so if you're using an older distro that 
doesn't have 2.6.14 on it's installer, you're in for a world of hurt.  :) 
(Debian's testing installer works fine, of course.)


Also annoying when you want to swap a 9500S for a 9550SX, and don't 
upgrade your kernel beforehand.. that was a pain.



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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Josh Marshall
Best way I've found is to make /boot a small RAID1 (e.g. below is 
/dev/md0) on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, then your lilo conf just has to 
have these lines:


boot=/dev/md0
raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb

And if the sda disk dies, it will still boot of sdb and use the md0 to boot.

Just thought I'd put a few more technical details rather than just 
saying this will work



Linux can boot from raid-1. So you could chop off a partition from sdb
for / and put swap on sdc.  Another approach is to have  alternative
installation on a partition on sdb.  This can be quite convenient for
upgrades and error recovery.

 




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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 16:36, Josh Marshall wrote:
 Best way I've found is to make /boot a small RAID1 (e.g. below is 
 /dev/md0) on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, then your lilo conf just has to 
 have these lines:
 
 boot=/dev/md0
 raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda,/dev/sdb
 
 And if the sda disk dies, it will still boot of sdb and use the md0 to boot.
 
 Just thought I'd put a few more technical details rather than just 
 saying this will work

That is probably the best approach, but note that if you boot
with grub you need to manually install it on the 2nd drive
of the raid (or both, depending on the OS distribution and version).
Also, many IDE disk failure modes will keep the machine from
booting at all until the drive is removed.  I'm not sure if
that is a problem with SATA also or not.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 03/15 05:05 , Les Mikesell wrote:
 That is probably the best approach, but note that if you boot
 with grub you need to manually install it on the 2nd drive
 of the raid (or both, depending on the OS distribution and version).
 Also, many IDE disk failure modes will keep the machine from
 booting at all until the drive is removed.  I'm not sure if
 that is a problem with SATA also or not.

that's the main reason I avoid software RAID these days. I've seen disks
fail in that way quite often; either crashing the box or just killing
performance. (Bad drives sending constant bus resets, etc).

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Re: [BackupPC-users] a one off backup of /boot partition in raid5 array - your thoughts/advice

2006-03-15 Thread David Rees
On 3/15/06, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 03/15 10:50 , Matt wrote:
 Furthermore, I  find the setup with raid controllers tedious: The
  modules often don't come with the distro and more often than not they do
  not load at boot forcing me  to tweak /etc/rc.local.

 haven't had that problem with 3ware controllers. linux kernels have had the
 drivers built in by default for years now.

 the 9000 series controllers require a 2.6.14 kernel or better, but that's
 the only issue I've had recently.

My problem with 3ware controllers is that the 3dm monitoring software
that works for a recent kernel does not support for older controllers
(6xxx series in my case). I've got a couple 6xxx controllers and while
they are still chugging along fine, the only way I get notified of
drive failules is to watch /var/log/messages as I can't figure out how
to get the RAID status through /proc or /sys.

That's my only beef with the 3ware controllers that I've had, I
haven't used any of the newer ones yet.

-Dave


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[BackupPC-users] HDD image creation

2006-03-15 Thread nilesh vaghela
Hi,

Is it possible to convert the backup to iso image and can restore complete HDD.

I know it is listed in limitation of Backuppc.

But we are ready to work and participate in development for above topic.

Nilesh J. Vaghela

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