Re: [BackupPC-users] CentOS 4.7 suid fails repeatedly with BackupPC

2008-12-17 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

Les Mikesell wrote on 2008-12-16 19:39:54 -0600 [Re: [BackupPC-users] CentOS 
4.7 suid fails repeatedly with BackupPC]:
 Which brings up the question - why would anyone install a 4.x now if you
 don't already have something old that you need to keep working on it?

he does - an old project partner.

Jim McNamara had written on 2008-12-16 12:35:04 -0500 [same thread]:
 The company I work for got roped in using it for an individual project, as
 another vendor brought in to do the telephony portion of this project will
 only work on RHEL 4.5 and luckily (for the bottom line) CentOS 4.7.

Regards,
Holger

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Re: [BackupPC-users] CentOS 4.7 suid fails repeatedly with BackupPC

2008-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
Jim McNamara wrote:
 
 Thanks again for everyone's help, I'm a longtime lurker on these boards, 
 and I was quite pleased to have support when my usualy install 
 conditions were thrown out!

I'm still curious about the real cause of your problem, though.  I 
revived an old vmware image of Centos 4.x, updated to 4.7, then 
installed a backuppc 3.1.0, taking defaults from the configure.pl script 
for about everything except putting the cgi interface in 
/var/www/cgi-bin and images under /var/www/html/backuppc, and the only 
thing it took to make it work was changing the group of 
/var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin to apache and then making it suid again.

It does have httpd-suexec installed but it isn't complaining.  Is your 
backuppc user id below 500?  That could have been a problem - the 
default suexec configuration sets 500 as the minimum uid to permit. 
Below that is reserved for system ids and the system tools like 
'adduser' should start at 501.

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2008-12-17 Thread Greg J Roy

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Re: [BackupPC-users] CentOS 4.7 suid fails repeatedly with BackupPC

2008-12-17 Thread Jim McNamara
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Les Mikesell l...@futuresource.com wrote:

 Jim McNamara wrote:
 
  Thanks again for everyone's help, I'm a longtime lurker on these boards,
  and I was quite pleased to have support when my usualy install
  conditions were thrown out!

 I'm still curious about the real cause of your problem, though.  I
 revived an old vmware image of Centos 4.x, updated to 4.7, then
 installed a backuppc 3.1.0, taking defaults from the configure.pl script
 for about everything except putting the cgi interface in
 /var/www/cgi-bin and images under /var/www/html/backuppc, and the only
 thing it took to make it work was changing the group of
 /var/www/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin to apache and then making it suid again.


That is also how I did it, once the issue I had with setuid were solved. I
chose more Debian-ish directories
(/usr/share/backuppc/cgi-bin/BackupPC_Admin), but that is more or less how I
did it.


 It does have httpd-suexec installed but it isn't complaining.  Is your
 backuppc user id below 500?  That could have been a problem - the
 default suexec configuration sets 500 as the minimum uid to permit.
 Below that is reserved for system ids and the system tools like
 'adduser' should start at 501.


I had thought about that. My initial install had user/group backuppc both as
150, then I upped both uid and gid to 1012, still the same problems existed.
Maybe something was messed up by moving uis/gid around? It is functional now
with both uid and gid set to 1012.




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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive

2008-12-17 Thread klemens


Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 12:08 -0200 schrieb Rodrigo Real:
 Hi
 
 Rob Owens wrote:
 
 My experience in booting the usb disk was successful, I had some 
 problems with grub and fstab, which I guess are not easy to avoid. 

you could avoid that sda-problem by using uuid's in the fstab.
  
.ka


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Re: [BackupPC-users] CentOS 4.7 suid fails repeatedly with BackupPC

2008-12-17 Thread Jim McNamara
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Adam Goryachev 
mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au wrote:

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 I'm guessing your telephony system will be some commercial version of
 asterisk? I would seriously question the idea of putting both your
 telephony system and backuppc on the same machine !
 Apart from keeping the backups on the same system as your live server,
 there are the performance impacts which may easily cause problems to
 your telephone call quality.

 Just a heads up I would prefer two separate boxes for the task.


I don't believe it is commercial asterisk, but I don't know and wasn't
consulted on that. There is a PCI card added that directly interfaces with
PRI phone lines. That card wasn't provided by the people that insisted on
RHEL 4.5/CentOS 4.7, and cost around $5000 US dollars, which is well more
than the brand new servers themselves cost.  I haven't touched asterisk in
years (2003 or 2004 was the last time I used it), but at that time
everything I knew about was done over TCP/IP, and this card isn't TCP/IP, it
is some direct interface.

This BackupPC isn't going to be backing up an office or anything of the
sort, there's just 2 linux servers, one doing the telephony and the other
being the database of data to make the calls from. As what is really
important is the database, it made more sense to put BackupPC on the
telephony server. A 3rd (BackupPC only) server was ruled out on space and
cost, so the point of failure kicked in. If the telephony box dies the
database still exists, and the telephony is under contract to be rebuilt
(though /var thereby /var/lib/backuppc as well lives on its own SAS disks),
whereas keeping the database backup is my responsibility, and I'm familiar
with BackupPC, though again, obviously not installing it on an out-of-date
OS that's new to me!

Beyond all that, the telephony will be silent well above 99.9% of the time.
It isn't making phone calls unless something on the order of natural
disaster or a terrorist attack occur, and the continental US (save one day
of infamy in 2001) is relatively safe. Our geographic location is light on
natural disasters, but should one occur, this entire install is put in place
to forewarn folks. Should the true purpose of this box kick on, I can easily
script a something along the lines of {if telephony = ON, then
/etc/init.d./backuppc stop}.

Thanks again for everyone's help, I'm a longtime lurker on these boards, and
I was quite pleased to have support when my usualy install conditions were
thrown out!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up the backup to an external USB drive

2008-12-17 Thread Rodrigo Real

Hi

Rob Owens wrote:

 I thought about something similar a while back.  I never got anywhere
 with it, but the plan was to use Knoppix or Knoppix-like technology to
 have all the hardware automatically detected and configured at boot.
 That way the hard drive could be installed in any machine and it would
 work.
 
 This info may be outdated:  Knoppix has 3 configuration options for a
 hard drive installation.  The one you would want is called Knoppix,
 and it basically runs the live cd system on a hard drive.  All the live
 cd startup scripts run, so hardware is detected automatically.
 
 I don't think Knoppix would be the best distro to use, due to its
 mish-mash of repositories, but maybe a Debian live cd or Ubuntu live cd
 would do the trick for you.  I'm just not sure how to install them to
 the hard drive in Knoppix mode.

The approach I am proposing is a little simpler than that, I only want 
to have a bootable usb system which is equal to the backuppc system, and 
which could easily replace it. Of course I will not have all the 
hardware detection that the liveCDs do, so maybe somethings will still 
be done by hand.

Let me tell you what happened in my tests.

After  33 hours  dd'ing  the pool to the usb disk, it finally ended, so 
I am really considering a eSata case, there is no way to wait 33 hours 
each time I want to sync the server with the usb case.

My experience in booting the usb disk was successful, I had some 
problems with grub and fstab, which I guess are not easy to avoid. 
Depending on how many disks I have on the machine the device is 
recognized as sdb, sdd, etc, so I should, at least, dinamically generate 
the fstab file, which I am not willing to do right now. By now I could 
live with this kind of manual operation.

Below you will find the script I made for doing the sync operation, this 
is a very simple script which only solves my problem, but maybe this can 
help others and maybe you could help improving it. Sorry for some 
portuguese comments...

Rodrigo

#!/bin/bash

/etc/init.d/backuppc stop || exit

umount /var/lib/backuppc || exit

echo Fazendo backup do /boot
mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/sdd1 || exit
time rsync -a  --delete-after /boot/* /mnt/sdd1/
umount /mnt/sdd1


echo Fazendo backup do barra
mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt/sdd2 || exit
time rsync -ax  --delete-after --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev 
--exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/var/lib/backuppc --exclude=/tmp 
/* /mnt/sdd2/
mkdir /mnt/sdd2/proc /mnt/sdd2/dev /mnt/sdd2/sys /mnt/sdd2/mnt 
/mnt/sdd2/tmp /mnt/sdd2/var/lib/backuppc
chmod 777 /mnt/sdd2/tmp
chmod o+t /mnt/sdd2/tmp
## acertando o fstab
cat EOF  /mnt/sdd2/etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sdb2 /   reiserfs defaults0   1
#/dev/sdb1/boot   reiserfs notail  0   2
/dev/sdb3 /var/lib/backuppc reiserfs defaults0   2
/dev/sdb4   noneswapsw,pri=1  0   0
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
EOF

umount /mnt/sdd2

echo Fazendo backup da area de dados do backuppc
lvcreate -L1G -s -n bkp_snapshot /dev/vg/backup || exit
time dd if=/dev/vg/bkp_snapshot of=/dev/sdd3
lvremove -f /dev/vg/bkp_snapshot

mount /var/lib/backuppc

/etc/init.d/backuppc start

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[BackupPC-users] Problem Backing up the localhost

2008-12-17 Thread Brian Butler
Hi all,
 
I've been using BackupPC to backup Windows clients for over a year and all
is running well.
 
I've got other data on the BackupPC server that I'd like to backup regularly
also, but I'm having problems getting the server to backup the '/' and
'/boot' directories.
 
The client are being backed up by rsyncd running on the clients.
 
In reviewing the documentation, rsync is the best to backup a Linux (FC4)
server.  I'm excluding the directories '/proc' '/mnt' (BackupPC data is
stored on a drive mounted from here) and '/var/log'.
 
The logs report the following:
 
2008-12-17 18:20:16 full backup started for directory '/boot'
2008-12-17 18:21:08 full backup started for directory '/'
2008-12-17 18:21:09 Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
2008-12-17 18:21:14 Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)

BackupPC v3.0.0
rsync-2.6.8-1.FC4.1
 
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
 
Brian Butler
Arc Products
bbut...@arc-products.com
 
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