[BackupPC-users] Dequeu a backup for unknown time
Hi, I was wondering if you can dequeu a backup for an unknown time? Thanks Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Non-pingable host
I think it would be better to change the ping command to the arpping command. This way you can block ping requests on the clients (which is safer), and backuppc is still able to check if the pc is alive or not. It must be said then that backuppc must have access to the arpping command which is generally only executable by root. Nonetheless, I raised this suggestion already a couple of years ago, and they mentioned that arpping works different then ping, and hence it would need some reprogramming. Regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Another pool question
Hi All, Sorry to bother you all with this question, I am quite sure that it has been asked already a thousand times, but the mailinglist is so big, I could not find it back. As some of you know from my previous questions, our backupserver gave up life. So the decent thing to do is buy a new one. Copying the pool was just out of the question, the thing was to big. So we just copied the last full backups we made. My impression was that all new backups will be added to the pool, and then after some time the old backup is just deleted. But this does not seem to be the case. After backing up all the pc's, our pool only grew 3GB and not the expected 200GB. So how does this go then? What happens when the old backup just is removed by the backup system? What happens to all newer backups that are based on this backup? Thanks Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC-users Digest, Vol 12, Issue 3
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:47:16 -0500 From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Server hangs after power outage To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 03/30 06:52 , Klaas Vantournhout wrote: Two days ago, we had a power outage in our department which caused a rather brutal shutdown of the computers. All of the computers survived, which is a good thing. But only one gained a peculiar character, and of course it had to be the backup server. I would suggest that you try running memtest86 first of all, to see if you have any bad RAM. if that comes back fine, then try running bonnie++ on your disks to see if there's something on the disk subsystem that is flaky now. Dear Carl, Thanks for the response, those tools are really handy. I ran memtest86+, and guess what. No memory faults, but the system hanged also after some time in the tests. AFAIK this can only mean one thing, some capacitors or transistors got fried during the process of unclean shut-down. Thanks for the help! To the rest, sorry for being a little bit off topic! Regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Server hangs after power outage
Dear all, The real questions are at the bottom, the rest is just a nice intro which introduces you to the nature of the questions. Two days ago, we had a power outage in our department which caused a rather brutal shutdown of the computers. All of the computers survived, which is a good thing. But only one gained a peculiar character, and of course it had to be the backup server. At the current point I am not blaming BackupPC at all, I'm just trying to isolate the problem, and that is why I would need your help in this. Okay so what does the bastard (read server) do now. Well not much, it just hangs or reboots from time to time. Rather in a random way. The first thing we noticed was in /var/log/messages that after the poweroutage, the ntpd deamon could not set its clock right anymore. snip /var/log/messages # cat /var/log/messages | grep ntpd Mar 29 10:39:43 inwtheo1 ntpd: ntpd startup succeeded Mar 29 10:39:43 inwtheo1 ntpd[5689]: ntp engine ready Mar 29 08:40:06 inwtheo1 ntpd[5689]: peer 157.193.40.37 now valid Mar 29 10:40:57 inwtheo1 ntpd[5688]: adjusting local clock by 166.241134s Mar 29 10:41:59 inwtheo1 ntpd[5688]: adjusting local clock by 166.240065s Mar 29 10:44:13 inwtheo1 ntpd[5688]: adjusting local clock by 166.238681s Mar 29 10:45:13 inwtheo1 ntpd[5688]: adjusting local clock by 166.174413s Mar 29 10:46:15 inwtheo1 ntpd[5688]: adjusting local clock by 187.903248s Mar 29 10:55:11 inwtheo1 ntpd: ntpd startup succeeded Mar 29 10:55:11 inwtheo1 ntpd[5607]: ntp engine ready Mar 29 08:55:32 inwtheo1 ntpd[5607]: peer 157.193.40.37 now valid end snip Although trying to understand this problem, I noticed that changing from openntpd to ntp did the trick to get the time correct. Although unsure about this solution, we switched off the deamon to be 100% sure this was not the cause of the reboots and or crashes. init 1 and 2 ran stable (backuppc is not running in init 2). init 3 didn't (backuppc runs there) starting all services by hand to go from 2 to 3, also did not give any problem. But using the command #init 3, it does. If we remove backuppc from init 3, the server is stable. So at this point we started to suspect something is going on when backuppc is running, but we also noticed that sometimes something was going on when backuppc was not running. So no conclusion yet. Although it frequently happens that backuppc initiates the crashes, we are wondering why this could be, that is why i write here. Our server is very basic. We are running version 3.0.0, the whole system is located on /dev/hda in several partitions, and the backup config files and data is in raid 5 on 3 separate disks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda7 9.9G 1.4G 8.1G 15% / /dev/hda1 479M 12M 443M 3% /boot /dev/hda8 44G 172M 44G 1% /home /dev/hda6 20G 729M 18G 4% /var /dev/md0 461G 194G 243G 45% /var/backups [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid5] md0 : active raid5 hdb1[0] hdg1[2] hde1[1] 490223232 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3] [UUU] unused devices: none A test also showed that init 3 without backuppc and without /dev/md0 mounted, was very stable. I also have to mention that one time when the system rebooted unexpectedly, the raid system lost 2 of its drives, without a reason. The next bootup just repaired the raid system. Hence we start thinking something is wrong with the raid. fsck gives no problems whatsoever. ** If you skipped the top, here are the questions ** What we are wondering now is, does backuppc initiate some other system commands which could enable the hang? The poweroutage was in the middle of some full backups, is it possible that this gives problems? We have for example in couple client directory a directory new/, even without a backup going on. Can i safely delete this directory? Is there more going on that I am not aware of, and how can i see it. Did anybody had the same? And if so, how did you solve it? Regards klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] owner not shown after changing owner
Hi, just some more info about this. I noticed that when a host had one user in BackupPC 2.1.2, and I add more users after upgrade to version 3.0.0beta3, the line This PC is used by username vanishes! Altering the line back to only one user, shows the line again. This is not the case when a PC original had multiple users in 2.1.2. Adding or removing users in such a host, always shows the line! To my opinion this is a bug, but a tiny unimportant one ;-) regards Klaas I have checked the hosts file, and it looks clean. I'm running backupPC3.0.0-beta3. The strange thing is that, the user himself can login into the system, and sees his host. There the host file determines who gets access to which host, it must run correct, there this works. Is there an other place where host names are stored or host names are determined? Regards Klaas Craig Barratt wrote: Klaas writes: Here I am again with another tiny problem. Lately I changed a host its owner by altering the host file. What I noticed now is that, when I look at the host itself, it does not show the line This PC is used by ownername Is there a way this can be explained? I'm using 3.0.0beta3 Can't explain this. Most likely a typo in the new hosts file? Craig -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Update to 3.0
Hi Christophe, I would not really worry about an update. I have always updated without a single problem and this since version 1 of BackupPC. If you install BackupPC, untar the file in a new directory (for backupreaasons if things go wrong, you should still have the old install dir of your previous version) then do /etc/init.d/backuppc stop perl configure.pl and answer all the questions! The most important is that you point to the config.pl file correctly! If you don't do this, then things go wrong. Your old config file will be copied to config.pl.pre-3.0.0 Again for backupreasons, install the program itself in a different directory then the old one! (It is also one of the questions) Then just copy the init.d file (maybe copy the old one somewhere if things go wrong) And then just test. If you see it goes wrong, copy the old config file back, replace the init file and everything should be fine! Maybe the cgi could be corrupted, but that is just a matter of copiing it back! I never had problems, the script is written well. I must say I use rsync, but I dont think lots changes with samba! Regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] owner not shown after changing owner
Hi, Here I am again with another tiny problem. Lately I changed a host its owner by altering the host file. What I noticed now is that, when I look at the host itself, it does not show the line This PC is used by ownername Is there a way this can be explained? I'm using 3.0.0beta3 Thanks again for the help regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] how to include certain files
Hi, I'm posting a lot these days to the list. It is just that I am finetuning my backup server, and want to do it in a nice way. I was wondering about the following. In my general conf.pl file I have stated that no hidden files should be backuped, hence I have $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = { '*' = {'.*','*/.*']} But in version 3.0.0beta3, the user is able to change those variables to his likeing, unless the admin changes this. So I turn this off and all is safe. But assume now that user A wants to add the directory .thunderbird to his backup. He should be able to include this in some way. Any idea how this could be done. I thought that next to $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} there also excists an $Conf{BackupFilesInclude} which does the oposite, and that would make it possible if I let users edit this variable. Unfortunately this does not excist. something else I noticed that after switching from version 2.1.0 to 3.0.0, is that the exludefiles are not appended anymore to the rsync command. in /var/log/messages/ I only get the rudimentary command without the include and exclude's while this was the case in the previous version. Thanks in advance for helping Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Email question
Okay I found the test program, but I get the following output ./BackupPC_sendEmail -u backuppc Sending test email using /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f BackupAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' sh: -c: line 0: `/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f BackupAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Broken pipe I am quiete sure this is not what should be happening? Any clue? klaas Klaas Vantournhout wrote: Hello, There is something which I was wondering about. Is there a way to set full email addresses instead of only the partial domain? Assume I have a user john, and his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED], how do I set this email? I can not set $Conf{EMailUserDestDomain} there it is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Can I do something like $Conf{EmailUserDestDomain} = ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and then he will get a mail with To : john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this correct, what I am saying here? And is there a way how I can test the email scripts? thanks Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] BackupPC_serverMesg
Hi, I don't know if I overlooked or something, but I was wondering what the options for BackupPC_serverMesg are? I know you can do backup all, status and much more ... but I don't know what more. I can't find documentation on this. From time to time you can read in this list an other command, but what are all of them? regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backup of backup machine
The command you use for copying the pool from A to B, does not preserve hardlinks. That is the reason why the pool gets larger and larger. You should use rsync -avz -H, but this will go tremendously slow and eats a lot of memory. But it works! You should also know that, when working on an unsynced raid system, the process will even go slower. regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Two servers into one server
Hi all, Some time ago I raised a question if it was possible to merge two servers together into one server, but no response came on that questions, therefore I would like to ask it again. I have two backup servers which were running fine, until we had a power outage and one of the servers found it cool to give up life. The server that is still working has enough space to contain also the backups of the dead server. I was wondering now if it is possible to join both servers into one big one? I can imagine that just copying the pc directory into the other one, will not work, because of the cpool right? Any help would be enormously appreciated. Regards, Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] merging two servers
Hi, In our department, we might combine several backup servers to one big one. The question is of course, how do you start with that. Can you just copy all the stuff? Thanks klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Putting a backup in the attic
Dear users and developers of the mighty backup program, I was wondering if it is possible to put a certain full backup or incremental in the attic. It is can we save a certain backup permanently disregarding changes in the config file and so on? thanks klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Upgrade to 3.0.0 beta
Hi, At the current moment we are running BackupPC 2.1.2 and we are very pleased with it. Pool is 161.69GB comprising 633721 files and 4369 directories 144 full backups of total size 3499.96GB (prior to pooling and compression), 262 incr backups of total size 200.43GB (prior to pooling and compression). which means we have full backups of 3 months ago. Now I was wondering how stable is the 3.0.0 and is it worth upgrading already? I have full confidence in the programming skills of Craig Barratt and his accomplices in aid. I know that each version they bring even in beta stage, are full worthy versions. Mostly I never had a problem with them. But I was just wondering if it was worth it to do the switch already, what are pros and cons so far. Regards Klaas -- Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp. Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hickers Guide to the Galaxy - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/