Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Arnar Þórarinsson]

Richard,
Packages came from epel repository for CentOS 8.
https://epel.hysing.is/8/Everything/x86_64/Packages/b/
seems they where uploaded/created 2020-06-22

BackupPC   x86_64 4.4.0-1.el8   
   epel  489 k
BackupPC-XSx86_64 0.62-1.el8
   epel  107 k

Without doing a complete reinstall of OS I can‘t be sure if a reinstall of 
BackupPC will correct the problems.  Might do that once I have tested the 
features of BackupPC more.

Með kveðju / Best regards,
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From: Richard Shaw 
Sent: miðvikudagur, 3. febrúar 2021 15:04
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:44 AM Arnar Þórarinsson 
mailto:arnar.thorarins...@isavia.is>> wrote:
Hi all,
BackupPC install via EPEL
# rpm -qa | grep -i backup
BackupPC-4.4.0-1.el8.x86_64
BackupPC-XS-0.62-1.el8.x86_64

Also, dnf info backuppc does suggest looking at README.setup found under 
/usr/share/doc/BackupPC/
Using su -s /bin/bash -l backuppc I can generate ssh keys and set up 
passwordless logins to clients.

Still the wrong ownership of /var/lib/BackupPC is an issue with the install 
packages.

No, I was trying to make that clear in my original response. The package I 
build sets it correctly. I still don't know how yours was different.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/BackupPC/blob/rawhide/f/BackupPC.spec#_327


Fixed with chown -R backuppc.root /var/lib/BackupPC , problem with that is 
SELINUX, you will have problems with SELINUX and have to do some selinux stuff 
for everything to work properly, and yes SELINUX should always be enabled.
For me the following worked.

I'm glad it worked but it should not be necessary as the package should also 
set the selinux permissions correctly.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/BackupPC/blob/rawhide/f/BackupPC.spec#_118

I would double check where the packages are coming from and first try 
reinstalling them.

# dnf reinstall BackupPC

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Richard Shaw]

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:44 AM Arnar Þórarinsson <
arnar.thorarins...@isavia.is> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> BackupPC install via EPEL
>
> # rpm -qa | grep -i backup
>
> BackupPC-4.4.0-1.el8.x86_64
>
> BackupPC-XS-0.62-1.el8.x86_64
>
>
>
> Also, dnf info backuppc does suggest looking at README.setup found under
> /usr/share/doc/BackupPC/
>
> Using su -s /bin/bash -l backuppc I can generate ssh keys and set up
> passwordless logins to clients.
>
>
>
> Still the wrong ownership of /var/lib/BackupPC is an issue with the
> install packages.
>

No, I was trying to make that clear in my original response. The package I
build sets it correctly. I still don't know how yours was different.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/BackupPC/blob/rawhide/f/BackupPC.spec#_327


Fixed with chown -R backuppc.root /var/lib/BackupPC , problem with that is
> SELINUX, you will have problems with SELINUX and have to do some selinux
> stuff for everything to work properly, and yes SELINUX should always be
> enabled.
>
> For me the following worked.
>

I'm glad it worked but it should not be necessary as the package should
also set the selinux permissions correctly.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/BackupPC/blob/rawhide/f/BackupPC.spec#_118

I would double check where the packages are coming from and first try
reinstalling them.

# dnf reinstall BackupPC

Thanks,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Arnar Þórarinsson]

Hi all,
BackupPC install via EPEL
# rpm -qa | grep -i backup
BackupPC-4.4.0-1.el8.x86_64
BackupPC-XS-0.62-1.el8.x86_64

Also, dnf info backuppc does suggest looking at README.setup found under 
/usr/share/doc/BackupPC/
Using su -s /bin/bash -l backuppc I can generate ssh keys and set up 
passwordless logins to clients.

Still the wrong ownership of /var/lib/BackupPC is an issue with the install 
packages.
Fixed with chown -R backuppc.root /var/lib/BackupPC , problem with that is 
SELINUX, you will have problems with SELINUX and have to do some selinux stuff 
for everything to work properly, and yes SELINUX should always be enabled.
For me the following worked.

# /sbin/restorecon -R -v /var/lib/BackupPC

# cat my-BackupPCAdmin.te

module my-BackupPCAdmin 1.0;

require {
type httpd_t;
type unlabeled_t;
   class file { getattr read write };
class dir read;
}

#= httpd_t ==
allow httpd_t unlabeled_t:dir read;
allow httpd_t unlabeled_t:file { getattr read write };

# semodule -X 300 -i my-BackupPCAdmin.pp


Will look into 
https://kifarunix.com/how-to-install-and-configure-backuppc-as-a-backup-server-on-ubuntu-18-04/#backuplinuxwithbackuppc
 for configuring clients with rsync

Með kveðju / Best regards,
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

Have a look at technical.network , there is a guide there that mainly uses 
backuppc user (not root) to backup clients via rsync.
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From: Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 7:28:11 AM
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 
mailto:backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 17:09 +, Arnar Þórarinsson wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm a new user of BackupPC with some questions (moving away from Amanda).
> OS: CentOS 8.3
> BackupPC version 4.4.0
>
> I followed the guide on
> https://kifarunix.com/install-and-configure-backuppc-on-centos-8/
> and all looks good but...
> I don't like using the root user on the client side for backups, never allow 
> root to login via ssh.
> So how do I generate ssh keys for the backuppc user on the server ? The user 
> backuppc does not own the /var/lib/BackupPC dir so it can't generate the keys.

Hello!

Something's fishy there, I followed the same guide recently (although for
Ubuntu) and for me /var/lib/backuppc is owned by backuppc.

Looking at the Backuppc-Ubuntu guide there is a step adding a backuppc user
and setting a homedir as /var/lib/backuppc.
https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Maybe the guide for CentOS needs to be tweaked a bit?
Otherwise, why not just chown the folder to the right permissions?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Systems]

Have a look at technical.network , there is a guide there that mainly uses 
backuppc user (not root) to backup clients via rsync.

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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 17:09 +, Arnar Þórarinsson wrote:
> Hello all,
> I‘m a new user of BackupPC with some questions (moving away from Amanda).
> OS: CentOS 8.3
> BackupPC version 4.4.0
>
> I followed the guide on
> https://kifarunix.com/install-and-configure-backuppc-on-centos-8/
> and all looks good but…
> I don‘t like using the root user on the client side for backups, never allow 
> root to login via ssh.
> So how do I generate ssh keys for the backuppc user on the server ? The user 
> backuppc does not own the /var/lib/BackupPC dir so it can‘t generate the keys.

Hello!

Something's fishy there, I followed the same guide recently (although for
Ubuntu) and for me /var/lib/backuppc is owned by backuppc.

Looking at the Backuppc-Ubuntu guide there is a step adding a backuppc user
and setting a homedir as /var/lib/backuppc.
https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Maybe the guide for CentOS needs to be tweaked a bit?
Otherwise, why not just chown the folder to the right permissions?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Sorin Srbu]

On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 17:09 +, Arnar Þórarinsson wrote:
> Hello all,
> I‘m a new user of BackupPC with some questions (moving away from Amanda).
> OS: CentOS 8.3
> BackupPC version 4.4.0
>  
> I followed the guide on
> https://kifarunix.com/install-and-configure-backuppc-on-centos-8/
> and all looks good but…
> I don‘t like using the root user on the client side for backups, never allow 
> root to login via ssh.
> So how do I generate ssh keys for the backuppc user on the server ? The user 
> backuppc does not own the /var/lib/BackupPC dir so it can‘t generate the keys.

Hello!

Something's fishy there, I followed the same guide recently (although for
Ubuntu) and for me /var/lib/backuppc is owned by backuppc.

Looking at the Backuppc-Ubuntu guide there is a step adding a backuppc user
and setting a homedir as /var/lib/backuppc.
https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Maybe the guide for CentOS needs to be tweaked a bit?
Otherwise, why not just chown the folder to the right permissions?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:45 PM Arnar Þórarinsson <
arnar.thorarins...@isavia.is> wrote:

> Hello all,
>

Hellow. I'm the current maintainer of BackupPC for Fedora and EPEL.



> I‘m a new user of BackupPC with some questions (moving away from Amanda).
>
> OS: CentOS 8.3
>
> BackupPC version 4.4.0
>
>
>
> Backuppc-server# sudo -u backuppc ssh-keygen
>
> Generating public/private rsa key pair.
>
> Enter file in which to save the key (/var/lib/BackupPC/.ssh/id_rsa):
>
> Could not create directory '/var/lib/BackupPC/.ssh': Permission denied
>
> Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
>
> Enter same passphrase again:
>
> Saving key "/var/lib/BackupPC/.ssh/id_rsa" failed: No such file or
> directory
>
>
>
> Backuppc-server# ll /var/lib/
>
> drwxr-xr-x.  3 root   root   4096 Feb  2 14:58 BackupPC
>

 That doesn't look right. For my home install I see:

# ll | grep BackupPC
drwxr-x---.  7 backuppc   root104 Jan  3 07:51 BackupPC

And in the spec file:

%attr(-,backuppc,root) %{_localstatedir}/lib/%{name}/

So the user at least should be backuppc. This has been the case since
before I started maintaining it.

Thanks,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Les Mikesell]

Anand Gupta wrote:
>
> 
>> Anand Gupta wrote at about 04:11:05 +0530 on Saturday, December 20, 2008:
>>  > Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though, 
>> the
>>  > cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it, however 
>> from
>>  > the howto it looks to me ssh would be required. Any ideas on that ?
>>  > 
>> It's not required if you just use 'rsyncd' without an ssh tunnel
>> (though rsyncd security alone is rather weak - just password
>> protection and the data isn't encrypted).
>>
>> On the other hand, you have to be careful about using regular
>> rsync-ssh on windows since many people report errors with hanged
>> backups due to long or weird filenames in windows. This is a problem
>> with rsync protocol 28 that has been fixed in protocol 30 --
>> unfortunately, backuppc uses perl-File-RsyncP which has not yet been
>> updated to protocol 30. You can get around it by using rsyncd with or
>> without a separate ssh tunnel.
> 
> So is there a solution for this ? OR we are stuck with either to use 
> rsync without encryption or do ssh tunneling as recommended earlier. I 
> am already going to go mad over installing cygwin+rsync on so many 
> machines, the ssh tunneling package might be just over the edge :(

There are other ways to get encrypted connections: openvpn, stunnel, 
etc., but I doubt if any are substantially easier to set up than an ssh 
tunnel.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Anand Gupta]

 Original Message  
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc
From: Jeffrey J. Kosowsky 
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Date: 12/21/08 12:40 PM

> Anand Gupta wrote at about 04:11:05 +0530 on Saturday, December 20, 2008:
>  > Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though, 
> the
>  > cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it, however from
>  > the howto it looks to me ssh would be required. Any ideas on that ?
>  > 
> It's not required if you just use 'rsyncd' without an ssh tunnel
> (though rsyncd security alone is rather weak - just password
> protection and the data isn't encrypted).
> 
> On the other hand, you have to be careful about using regular
> rsync-ssh on windows since many people report errors with hanged
> backups due to long or weird filenames in windows. This is a problem
> with rsync protocol 28 that has been fixed in protocol 30 --
> unfortunately, backuppc uses perl-File-RsyncP which has not yet been
> updated to protocol 30. You can get around it by using rsyncd with or
> without a separate ssh tunnel.

So is there a solution for this ? OR we are stuck with either to use 
rsync without encryption or do ssh tunneling as recommended earlier. I 
am already going to go mad over installing cygwin+rsync on so many 
machines, the ssh tunneling package might be just over the edge :(


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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Jeffrey J. Kosowsky]

Anand Gupta wrote at about 04:11:05 +0530 on Saturday, December 20, 2008:
 > Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though, the
 > cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it, however from
 > the howto it looks to me ssh would be required. Any ideas on that ?
 > 
It's not required if you just use 'rsyncd' without an ssh tunnel
(though rsyncd security alone is rather weak - just password
protection and the data isn't encrypted).

On the other hand, you have to be careful about using regular
rsync-ssh on windows since many people report errors with hanged
backups due to long or weird filenames in windows. This is a problem
with rsync protocol 28 that has been fixed in protocol 30 --
unfortunately, backuppc uses perl-File-RsyncP which has not yet been
updated to protocol 30. You can get around it by using rsyncd with or
without a separate ssh tunnel.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Anand Gupta]

I finally setup my first winxp node with backuppc. Now i am facing some
problem here.

Node Name : a3520
DHCP : Selected

When i do an nmblookup on the node, i get the following

nmblookup a3520
querying a3520 on 10.211.55.255
10.211.55.3 a3520<00>

Looking at backuppc interface, i see it uses nmblookup -A CLIENTNAME to do a
lookup. I get the following results using -A switch

nmblookup -A a3520
Looking up status of 0.0.0.0
No reply from 0.0.0.0

Now since the above doesn't return any results, backuppc eventually is not
able to connect / backup the client. I tried to use -B switch as well for
specifying broadcast address, however, even that didn't work.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Anand Gupta]

Hi Cody,

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Cody Dunne  wrote:

> Hi Anand,
>
> Anand Gupta wrote:
> > Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though,
> > the cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it,
> > however from the howto it looks to me ssh would be required. Any ideas
> > on that ?
>
> If you want ssh, just install the regular cygwin package and add ssh,
> rsyncd, etc to it as in the guide. Alternatively, you could get your ssh
> tunnels set up with Putty, possibly combined with MyEnTunnel
> (http://nemesis2.qx.net/software-myentunnel.php) to keep them alive.


Is there any way to add ssh to the cygwin-rsync package from backuppc itself
? I noticed that the rsync packaged from backuppc is much smaller than the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Renke Brausse]

Am Freitag, den 19.12.2008, 16:20 -0600 schrieb Les Mikesell:
> Anand Gupta wrote:
> > Here is a screenshot of what i see.
> > 
> 
> Have you set the web interface up to require authentication?  You aren't 
> logged in as someone in $Conf{CgiAdminUsers}.

hey - you was too fast :)

I just installed backuppc on my Fedora box and found this, too.

Just alter in config.pl the line "$Conf{CgiAdminUsers} = ''" to
"$Conf{CgiAdminUsers} = 'backuppc'" and the GUI works as expected.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Cody Dunne]

Hi Anand,

Anand Gupta wrote:
> Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though, 
> the cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it, 
> however from the howto it looks to me ssh would be required. Any ideas 
> on that ?

If you want ssh, just install the regular cygwin package and add ssh, 
rsyncd, etc to it as in the guide. Alternatively, you could get your ssh 
tunnels set up with Putty, possibly combined with MyEnTunnel 
(http://nemesis2.qx.net/software-myentunnel.php) to keep them alive.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Anand Gupta]

Hi Les,

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Les Mikesell  wrote:

> Anand Gupta wrote:
> > Here is a screenshot of what i see.
> >
>
> Have you set the web interface up to require authentication?  You aren't
> logged in as someone in $Conf{CgiAdminUsers}.
>

You are the man ;)

I had one mistake in the config file which and that is what you pointed out.
Fixing it, i now see the options. I tried to setup localhost itself for
backing up, and it sure looks nice.

Now i need to setup a windows host. I do have a question on that though, the
cygwin-rsync package from sf states it doesn't have ssh on it, however from
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Les Mikesell]

Anand Gupta wrote:
> Here is a screenshot of what i see.
> 

Have you set the web interface up to require authentication?  You aren't 
logged in as someone in $Conf{CgiAdminUsers}.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[anandiwp]

I checked that already, its backuppc 3.1.0. Besides I got the rpm from centos 
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:25:16 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[anandiwp]

Yup I know. Thanks :)

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From: Bowie Bailey 

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:17:17 
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc


anandx wrote:
> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> > anandx wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I guess on all the windows nodes, i would need to install
> > > cygwin+rsync. 
> > > 
> > 
> > You can also use Samba to backup a Windows share.  What I do on my
> > Windows boxes is create a read-only drive share that is accessible
> > to a single userid which is only used by BackupPC.  BackupPC can
> > then back up the drive from that share.  In order to do a restore,
> > you have to manually set the share to be writable before requesting
> > the restore. 
> > 
> 
> As mentioned earlier, i cannot share the drives on the windows
> machine. 

I must have missed that.  Ah well...  Just trying to save you the hassle
of installing cygwin everywhere.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Renke Brausse]

> Ok now i am stuck here. As per your guide, it says the following:

...

> Hosts
> 
> Server
> Status
> Host Summary
> Documentation
> Wiki
> SourceForge

I didn't follow the thread but it looks like an older version of
backuppc - the missing edit hosts option seems to be backuppc 2.x, while
the guide is for 3.x

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Bowie Bailey]

anandx wrote:
> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> > anandx wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I guess on all the windows nodes, i would need to install
> > > cygwin+rsync. 
> > > 
> > 
> > You can also use Samba to backup a Windows share.  What I do on my
> > Windows boxes is create a read-only drive share that is accessible
> > to a single userid which is only used by BackupPC.  BackupPC can
> > then back up the drive from that share.  In order to do a restore,
> > you have to manually set the share to be writable before requesting
> > the restore. 
> > 
> 
> As mentioned earlier, i cannot share the drives on the windows
> machine. 

I must have missed that.  Ah well...  Just trying to save you the hassle
of installing cygwin everywhere.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Bowie Bailey]

anandx wrote:
> 
> I guess on all the windows nodes, i would need to install
> cygwin+rsync.

You can also use Samba to backup a Windows share.  What I do on my
Windows boxes is create a read-only drive share that is accessible to a
single userid which is only used by BackupPC.  BackupPC can then back up
the drive from that share.  In order to do a restore, you have to
manually set the share to be writable before requesting the restore.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[dan]

I'll also add that you can start backups from the command line on the
backuppc server which allows backups to be scheduled via cron.  You can mix
and match schedulers too.  You can use the built in scheduler for daily
incrementals and use cron to schedule backups on specific days.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, dan  wrote:

> You can backup over ssh tunnels to provide encryption.  read my previous
> post on client initiated backups.  This works for server initiated backups
> also.  They security isnt an issue.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Cody Dunne  wrote:
>
>> Hi Anandx,
>>
>> anandx wrote:
>>
>> >> There is a cygwin+rsync package available on the backuppc sourceforge
>> >> site, which can make it very easy to install rsyncd. If you don't need
>> >> rsync for anything else, and are happy to use rsyncd instead of
>> >> rsync+ssh, then I've found this to be a good solution.
>> >>
>> > Saw the package, and after reading the readme, it sure wouldn't be a
>> problem to install it. I have a question on this, enabling the rsyncd on
>> windows machine, does it arise any security issues of any kind ?
>>
>> Yes, rsyncd doesn't encrypt the file transfer and the authentication is
>> less secure than ssh. You can allay these by setting up rsyncd to only
>> allow local connections and then using an ssh tunnel for the transfer.
>> For a guide, see 
>> http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html
>>
>>  > Btw any ideas if Backuppc can be configured to backup certain hosts
>> at different intervals and certain at different ? Basically i want a
>> machine to be backed up daily and keep 7 days backup, then 4 weekly
>> backups and no monthly and then another one, i only want the monthly
>> backups.
>>
>> Absolutely. The schedule settings in the CGI interface allow easy
>> individual client settings for full backups: FullPeriod (time between
>> backups) and FullKeepCnt (the number of backups to keep, which can be
>> exponential over time). Similar settings are for incremental backups.
>>
>> Cody
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[dan]

You can backup over ssh tunnels to provide encryption.  read my previous
post on client initiated backups.  This works for server initiated backups
also.  They security isnt an issue.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Cody Dunne  wrote:

> Hi Anandx,
>
> anandx wrote:
>
> >> There is a cygwin+rsync package available on the backuppc sourceforge
> >> site, which can make it very easy to install rsyncd. If you don't need
> >> rsync for anything else, and are happy to use rsyncd instead of
> >> rsync+ssh, then I've found this to be a good solution.
> >>
> > Saw the package, and after reading the readme, it sure wouldn't be a
> problem to install it. I have a question on this, enabling the rsyncd on
> windows machine, does it arise any security issues of any kind ?
>
> Yes, rsyncd doesn't encrypt the file transfer and the authentication is
> less secure than ssh. You can allay these by setting up rsyncd to only
> allow local connections and then using an ssh tunnel for the transfer.
> For a guide, see 
> http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html
>
>  > Btw any ideas if Backuppc can be configured to backup certain hosts
> at different intervals and certain at different ? Basically i want a
> machine to be backed up daily and keep 7 days backup, then 4 weekly
> backups and no monthly and then another one, i only want the monthly
> backups.
>
> Absolutely. The schedule settings in the CGI interface allow easy
> individual client settings for full backups: FullPeriod (time between
> backups) and FullKeepCnt (the number of backups to keep, which can be
> exponential over time). Similar settings are for incremental backups.
>
> Cody
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Cody Dunne]

Hi Anandx,

anandx wrote:

>> There is a cygwin+rsync package available on the backuppc sourceforge
>> site, which can make it very easy to install rsyncd. If you don't need
>> rsync for anything else, and are happy to use rsyncd instead of
>> rsync+ssh, then I've found this to be a good solution.
>>
> Saw the package, and after reading the readme, it sure wouldn't be a problem 
> to install it. I have a question on this, enabling the rsyncd on windows 
> machine, does it arise any security issues of any kind ?

Yes, rsyncd doesn't encrypt the file transfer and the authentication is 
less secure than ssh. You can allay these by setting up rsyncd to only 
allow local connections and then using an ssh tunnel for the transfer. 
For a guide, see http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html

 > Btw any ideas if Backuppc can be configured to backup certain hosts 
at different intervals and certain at different ? Basically i want a 
machine to be backed up daily and keep 7 days backup, then 4 weekly 
backups and no monthly and then another one, i only want the monthly 
backups.

Absolutely. The schedule settings in the CGI interface allow easy 
individual client settings for full backups: FullPeriod (time between 
backups) and FullKeepCnt (the number of backups to keep, which can be 
exponential over time). Similar settings are for incremental backups.

Cody

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

[Max Hetrick]

anandx wrote:

> Is there any newbie guide to setup backuppc ? I wish to setup the same on 
> centos5.2 server.
> 
> I guess on all the windows nodes, i would need to install cygwin+rsync. But 
> how does the client initiate the backups ? Can i configure it to backup once 
> a day or during logout/ shutdown ?
> 
> OR is it that the server initiates the backup ? In my case, all machines are 
> on dhcp, so ips are not fixed.
> 
> Any help would be highly appreciated.

I can't help much with the Windows host setup, but I just put a guide up 
on the CentOS wiki explaining installation on CentOS using rsync to 
backup other Linux clients through rsync.



This is my first post to this list. I just switched from using rsnapshot 
over to BackupPC. So far I really like BackupPC much better because of 
what seems like so many more available options for backups.

Anyways, hopefully that will get you started at least getting it going 
on CentOS, and then you can search around for setting up Windows/Cygwin.

Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc

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anandx wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any newbie guide to setup backuppc ? I wish to setup the
> same on centos5.2 server.

Did you read the documentation, and/or the wiki? There is plenty of very
helpful information and howto's available...

> I guess on all the windows nodes, i would need to install
> cygwin+rsync. 

There is a cygwin+rsync package available on the backuppc sourceforge
site, which can make it very easy to install rsyncd. If you don't need
rsync for anything else, and are happy to use rsyncd instead of
rsync+ssh, then I've found this to be a good solution.

> But how does the client initiate the backups ? 

The client can initiate backups using the web interface, if you allow
access to that.

> Can i configure it to backup once a day or during logout/ shutdown ?

Well, if a backup takes 45 minutes (or 3 hours) do you really want to
wait that long when trying to logout/shutdown?

> OR is it that the server initiates the backup ?

 Normally, backuppc server will initiate the backup as soon as it sees
the machine on-line, which usually means shortly after login/startup.

> In my case, all machines are on dhcp, so ips are not fixed.

No problem, just define the dhcp range, and backuppc will scan the IP
range looking for active hosts. When it finds a active host, it will
check it's name, if it needs a backup, then a backup will be started,
otherwise it moves on to the next IP.

The best help I can provide is to read the documentation. If you find a
problem during installation, then provide as much information on what
you have done, what errors you got, etc, and someone will most likely be
able to guide you to a solution. The docs are surprisingly good for
simple things like how to install!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] New to BackupPC Web admin Issues

[Les Mikesell]

Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
> 
 2. It is not clear from the web page  how create an archive set. The
 only option that I see is a full backup
>>> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#archive_functions
>>> says: "BackupPC provides a menu that allows one or more hosts to be
>>> archived." I can't find it either (never looked for it before). Maybe
>>> someone else knows. Or you could use __INSTALLDIR__/
>>> BackupPC_archiveHost from the command line or in a cron job.
>> You have to add one or more 'archive hosts'.
>> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#configuring_an_archive_host
>>
>> The concept is a little confusing because they look like backup  
>> targets
>> except that the configuration has the archive destination directives.
> 
> But what about the docs saying "BackupPC provides a menu that allows  
> one or more hosts to be archived."? I haven't found it yet.

If you have created an archive host, select it in the top left 
navigation panel where it appears like the target hosts.  Then click the 
'start archive' button and you'll get the choice of target hosts to 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] New to BackupPC Web admin Issues

[Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)]

Les Mikesell wrote:

>>> 2. It is not clear from the web page  how create an archive set. The
>>> only option that I see is a full backup
>>
>> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#archive_functions
>> says: "BackupPC provides a menu that allows one or more hosts to be
>> archived." I can't find it either (never looked for it before). Maybe
>> someone else knows. Or you could use __INSTALLDIR__/
>> BackupPC_archiveHost from the command line or in a cron job.
>
> You have to add one or more 'archive hosts'.
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#configuring_an_archive_host
>
> The concept is a little confusing because they look like backup  
> targets
> except that the configuration has the archive destination directives.

But what about the docs saying "BackupPC provides a menu that allows  
one or more hosts to be archived."? I haven't found it yet.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] New to BackupPC Web admin Issues

[Les Mikesell]

Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:

>> I am new to backuppc. I have installed it on fedora 9.
>>
>> I seems to work. I do have the following issues:
>>
>> 1. On the main web page I do not see the admin options
> 
> Have you added your username to $Conf{CgiAdminUsers}? 
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#item__conf_cgiadminusers_

You also have to configure apache to require authentication.

>> 2. It is not clear from the web page  how create an archive set. The
>> only option that I see is a full backup
> 
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#archive_functions  
> says: "BackupPC provides a menu that allows one or more hosts to be  
> archived." I can't find it either (never looked for it before). Maybe  
> someone else knows. Or you could use __INSTALLDIR__/ 
> BackupPC_archiveHost from the command line or in a cron job.

You have to add one or more 'archive hosts'. 
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#configuring_an_archive_host

The concept is a little confusing because they look like backup targets 
except that the configuration has the archive destination directives.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] New to BackupPC Web admin Issues

[Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)]

Oz Dror wrote:

> I am new to backuppc. I have installed it on fedora 9.
>
> I seems to work. I do have the following issues:
>
> 1. On the main web page I do not see the admin options

Have you added your username to $Conf{CgiAdminUsers}? 
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#item__conf_cgiadminusers_

> 2. It is not clear from the web page  how create an archive set. The
> only option that I see is a full backup

http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#archive_functions  
says: "BackupPC provides a menu that allows one or more hosts to be  
archived." I can't find it either (never looked for it before). Maybe  
someone else knows. Or you could use __INSTALLDIR__/ 
BackupPC_archiveHost from the command line or in a cron job.

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