Re: [Bacula-users] prevent bacula to backup recently restored files
On 10/24/07, Martin Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how can I prevent bacula to re-write files to tape after I've recently > restored them to same location. A similiar problem is when I've moved them > to a new (logical) volume which is mounted under same mount point > afterwards. No files were changed but complete tree is re-backuped when next > backup job is running. I'm pretty sure it's ctime, mtime, atime related, but > what's a safe way to backup only changed files? I can give you a fully > "stat" output of files in mentioned trees, but first look via "ls" gives me > correct "old" dates. Just make sure that the files have an older creation/modification date and bacula will ignore them. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] wx-console on Windows won't talk to director on Linux (bug?)
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 15:40:36 Arno Lehmann wrote: > 24.10.2007 15:42,, David L. Lambert wrote:: > > I’ve been running Bacula [...]. However, when I run the wx-console on > > Windows and point it at the director running on Ubuntu, I get errors > > like the following: > > > > .helpautodisplay: is an invalid command. > > > > #.messages > > > > : is an invalid command. > > > > #.help: is an invalid command. > > Can you use bwx-console from a linux machine to connect to that DIR > without these issues? I got the same errors from two different Linux boxes, with the same configuration file. However, I figured out how to fix it. I had no "CommandACL = " line in the "Console" section for that client in the director configuration-file. After adding "CommandACL= *all*", it works. Thanks. -- David L. Lambert Software Developer, Precision Motor Transport Group, LLC Work phone 517-349-3011 x215 Cell phone 586-873-8813 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Job started twice
> ... and it looks completely sane to me. No fancy schedules, no run=
> directives, nothing uncommon in it. But what is in the secnet-def
> JobDefauls resource?
I won't be able to run the test until later, this is my JobDefault for
reference:
JobDefs {
Name = "secnet-def"
Type = Backup
Level = Full
FileSet = "secnet-def"
Storage = "File"
Messages = "Standard"
Priority = 10
}
The FileSet "secnet-def" is overridden by the the client
configuration. Tonite I will leave the director in debugging mode for
the night and see if the jobs are interacting. I scheduled the backup
to run on its lonesome but it seemed to work fine.
Sincerely,
-Michael
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Re: [Bacula-users] wx-console on Windows won't talk to director on Linux (bug?)
Hi, 24.10.2007 15:42,, David L. Lambert wrote:: > > > > > I’ve been running Bacula for several months to back up several Linux > servers to disk on one of them. I also installed Bacula on a Windows > workstation, and was able to run backup jobs from it (that is, pulling > data from the file-daemon there). However, when I run the wx-console on > Windows and point it at the director running on Ubuntu, I get errors > like the following: > > > > Welcome to bacula wx-console 2.0.3 (06 March 2007)! > > Using this configuration file: C:\Documents and Settings\All > Users\Application Data\Bacula\wx-console.conf > > Connecting... > > Connected > > 1000 OK: IT-dir Version: 2.0.3 (06 March 2007) Hmm... no version mismatch here (by the way - an upgarde to 2.2.4 or above is strongly recommended...) Can you use bwx-console from a linux machine to connect to that DIR without these issues? Arno > .helpautodisplay: is an invalid command. > > #.messages > > : is an invalid command. > > #.help: is an invalid command. > > .messages > > : is an invalid command. > > .messages > > : is an invalid command. > > .messages > > : is an invalid command. > > .messages > > : is an invalid command. > > > > When I go into the “restore” screen, the drop-down boxes for client, > etc., don’t have suitably-populated lists; instead, they say stuff like > “.clients?: is an invalid command” where the “?” is actually a little > square box. My guess is that the console is sending lines terminated by > “\r\n”, and the director is only stripping the “\n” from each line > before parsing it. > > > > > > > > // -- /// / > > /*/ David Lee Lambert /*/ > > // Software Developer, Precision Motor Transport Group, LLC // > > // 517-349-3011 x223 (work) … 586-873-8813 (cell) // > > > > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > > > > ___ > Bacula-users mailing list > Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Job started twice
Hi,
24.10.2007 15:06,, Michael Short wrote::
> Here is the configuration for the client, it is the same as every other.
... and it looks completely sane to me. No fancy schedules, no run=
directives, nothing uncommon in it. But what is in the secnet-def
JobDefauls resource?
Other than that, I can't see anything here.
Probably time to run with debug output...
Arno
> #DIRECTOR
> Client {
> Name = "sv27"
> Address = 10.123.0.25
> FDPort = 1
> Catalog = "MyCatalog"
> Password = ""
> AutoPrune = no
> }
> Job {
> Name = "sv27"
> Client = "sv27"
> JobDefs = "secnet-def"
> Write Bootstrap = "/home/bacula/sv27.bsr"
> Schedule = "sv27"
> Storage = "sv27"
> Pool = "sv27"
> Fileset = "sv27"
> Enabled = "yes"
> }
> Pool {
> Name = "sv27"
> Pool Type = Backup
> Recycle = no
> AutoPrune = no
> LabelFormat = "sv27"
> UseVolumeOnce = yes
> }
> Storage {
> Name = "sv27"
> Address = 10.123.0.1
> SDPort = 10001
> Password = ""
> Media Type = File
> Device = "sv27"
> }
> Storage {
> Name = "sv27-onsite"
> Address = 10.123.0.25
> SDPort = 10001
> Password = ""
> Media Type = File
> Device = "sv27"
> }
> FileSet {
> Name = "sv27"
> Ignore FileSet Changes = yes
> Enable VSS = yes
> Include {
> Options {
> signature = MD5
> compression = GZIP
> sparse = yes
> }
> File = "c:/"
> File = "d:/"
> }
> }
> Schedule {
> Name = "sv27"
> Run = Level=Incremental sun-sat at 18:00
> }
>
>
> #STORAGE DAEMON
> Device {
> Name = "sv27"
> Media Type = File
> Archive Device = "/home/bacula/storage/d1"
> LabelMedia = yes; # Automatically label new volumes
> Random Access = Yes; # Filesystem environment
> AutomaticMount = yes; # Filesystem is always available
> RemovableMedia = no; # A filesystem is NOT removable
> AlwaysOpen = no; # Not important for filesystem usage
> }
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with 'Automatic Volume Labeling'
Hi,
24.10.2007 13:15,, Rich wrote::
> On 2007.10.23. 22:02, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> ...
>> That requirement, by the way, is not very problematic. The sample
>> given in the manual should almost work out of the box, and python is
>> easier to learn than Baculas variable substitution language :-)
>
> i do not agree with that ;)
Feel free to... I'm not a person to try to persuade anyone :-)
This is described in the manual, for example
http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html#SECTION00356
>>> ...
>
> i'm now trying to understand at least something in all this...
>
> 1. the example has a section that is not simply stating noop, but is
> preceded by it :
>
>def JobInit(self, job):
> noop = 1
> if (job.JobId < 2):
> startid = job.run("run kernsave")
> job.JobReport = "Python started new Job: jobid=%d\n" % startid
> print "name=%s version=%s conf=%s working=%s" % (bacula.Name,
> bacula.Version, bacula.ConfigFile, bacula.WorkingDir)
>
> manual says "If you do not want a particular event, simply replace the
> existing code with a noop = 1."
Well... the manual is imperfect here.
The key thing is that, in python, each method needs a body, and even
if you don't want any action taken by it. So the construct of "noop =
1" is a more or less standard way of creating a method without any
functionality.
> what does this section do then ? is preceding it with noop = 1 also
> disabling it ?
No. To disable it, you'd have to remove the actual code (which only
prints a message for JobId=1, by the way).
> 2. the volume label itself.
> i guess i should leave at least parts of "def JobStart", right ?
> it creates JobEvents class, which in turn includes what seems to be the
> correct section - "def NewVolume".
>
> i suppose this line should be modified :
> Vol = "TestA-%d" % numvol
In NewVolume, a method of the class JobEvents, yes.
Here the actual volume name is created.
> later two other lines have same string :
>
> job.JobReport = "Exists=%d TestA-%d" % (job.DoesVolumeExist(Vol), numvol)
> job.VolumeName="TestA-%d" % numvol
>
> must i replace all of these strings ?
No.
> if yes, can't they just be
> referenced from the first string, "Vol" ?
Yes.
> now, as for constructing the volume labal string... it seems that most
> variables map to something "job." - like job.Pool, job.Job, job.Level etc.
>
> how would i use these variables to define the label ?
>
> i am trying to imitate a volume label like
> "${Pool}_${Job}-${Level}-${Year}.${Month:p/2/0/r}.${Day:p/2/0/r}-${Hour:p/2/0/r}.${Minute:p/2/0/r}"
>
> which would also require variables like year, month etc. how can i
> include those ?
By using python's methods. The module datetime offers date objects,
which can be used to print the current month, for example. The
strftime method could be used to get the year, month and day nicely
formatted as a string.
The pool and job name can be accessed using Baculas job methods,
similar to the example.
In a real-world script, you should ensure you create unique names
using the DoesVolumeExist method, by the way.
> i'm really lost with all this, but this probably is the best time to do
> this as i have set up a test system before attempting a large upgrade,
> so postponing the change can come back to me later...
> ...
As always... right.
Unfortunately, as I don't actually use python events myself (grin) I
can't provide another working example.
Arno
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[Bacula-users] bacula-fd 2.2.5 for Mac OS X
some day i will get around to contacting Kern about putting these somewhere official. until then, .pkg installers for Mac OS X 10.4 Intel and PowerPC are available at http://www.pixelchaos.net - justin - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] FD - SD problem
Hi, 24.10.2007 12:33,, GDS.Marshall wrote:: > Hello, > >> Hi, >> >> 22.10.2007 21:26,, GDS.Marshall wrote:: >>> version 2.2.4 patched from sourceforge >>> Linux kernel 2.6.x >>> >>> I am running 10+ FD's, one SD, and one Director. I am having problems >>> with one of my FD's, the others are fine. Not sure if it makes any >>> difference, but the FD is on the same machine as the Director. >>> I have no issues with the network, I see no errors on either the >>> interface >>> of the FD or the SD. All FD's are plugged into the same netgear switch. >>> The SD is plugged into a different netgear switch which is then plugged >>> into the FD's switch. >> Are the FD and SD running on the same host (your description says that >> DIR and problem FD are on the same machine, but not if the DIR and SD >> are on that same machine, too)? > No, the SD is on its own machine > > FD+DIR FD FD > | | | > GSW--- Gig Switch > | > FSW--- Fast Switch > | > SD And the problem connection is between the hosts to the left... ok. ... >>> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: Spooling data ... >>> 22-Oct 18:56 fileserver-fd: fileserver-backup.2007-10-22_18.54.33 Fatal >>> error: backup.c:892 Network send error to SD. ERR=Success >> So the connection breaks shortly after data starts being transferred, >> right? > Correct, 2193816 is always written. Funny. Disk full on the SD, perhaps? Might be worth a look into the system log on both the machines. >> It's a little bit surprising to see an error text of Success here... I >> always thought that sort of things only happened on windows ;-) > ROTFL. The FD, Dir, SD are on linux machines, we have not ventured to the > Windows FD yet. > >> >>> I know it says "Network send error", however, I have checked the >>> network, >>> and can not find a problem with any of the equipment. >> Do you have a firewall running on that host? > No firewalls running on any of the bacula hosts, and the switch is not a > 3com. Good enough... regarding network problems, you could try to enable the heartbeat function in the FD and / or SD. To find the cause of the problem, tcpdump or wireshark might help. If you see RST packages on the connection between FD and SD it's only the question who generates them... ... >> Here it's failed, I think. A higher debug level might reveal more, but >> this doesn't tell me anything important. > > I am probably going to get flamed for this, Not by me :-) > but what value, currently it > is set to 200, I do not want to put it too high, and swamp the amount of > data I am supplying the mailing list, but neither do I want to waste the > mailing lists time by making it too low Really a difficult question :-) The best approach might be to run with debug level 400, save the resulting logs, and only post the part around the failure first. If someone needs more detail, you could post the complete log to a web site. ... >>> backupserver ~ # >> With the information from above, I suspect a network problem. Does the >> client run before job you have run for a very long time? In such a >> situation, a firewall/router might close the connection between SD and >> FD because it seems to be idle. > The run before job might take half an hour max. There is no firewall or > router in the setup. Hmm... half an hour should not trigger a RST due to idleing too long. Do your other FDs on the network segment with the DIR have long-running scripts, too, or do they transfer data almost immediately after the backup jobs are started? Arno -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Error Handling failed Jobs
Hi, your mail arrives here as an attachment, which makes it hard to reply... you might want to change that. > Hello List, > > I have actually a problem when a Backup Job fails. If it fails the > predicted Volume gets marked as error. What i not understand is, if > there is a connection problem between the fd and sd the volume is > never used but still gets marked as error. The important question is why it's marked as "Error". If the volume can't be read correctly, that is the expected behaviour. > Is it possible to > manipulate the error handling in case of a connection problem? You can manually update the status of the volume to "Used" or "Full", but should first find out if the volume actually is usable. Arno > Sincerly 24.10.2007 12:14,, Matthias Baake wrote:: > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > > > > ___ > Bacula-users mailing list > Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Disk backup recycling
Hi, option 0 is the best one however there are financial drawbacks :-) The whole situation is like this. I have bacula server with two remote SAN connected drives. SAN does mirroring etc and SAN drives are considered stable and safe. I have the backup rotation schema with 1 weekly full backup and 6 differential/incremental backups. I need to backup various routers, servers, important workstations etc... There is cca 20 clients now. Total storage needed to be backed up is like 200-250GB. Number of clients should increase in time. Since now we used simple ssh+tar solution. I would like to use Bacula to "tidy up" the whole process and make it more reliable and robust. The disk space on SAN is expensive and "precious" and I would like to use it reasonably. So I have no problem with connecting each client after another, performing full backup to a new volume and deleting old full backup afterwards - this is how it now works with ssh+tar. Client connects, backups to temporary file and when backup is complete, old backup is deleted and temporary file is renamed. Clients are backed up one after another so I do not need so much overhead disk space. I have no problem finding reason for extra space for one full backup. I am still considering other options like spooling to local SATA drive, or backing up to local drive and synchronizing to SAN drives, but every solution has some disadvantages... Full catalog backup will be performed on SAN drives every day and to remote servers. I find it as the most valuable data to be backed up :-) Radek Marek Simon napsal(a): > My opinion to your ideas: > 0) Leave the schema as I submited and buy more disk space for backuping. :-) > > 1) It is best variant I think. The other advantage is that the full > backup of all clients would take much longer time then 1/7th full and > other differential. Now what to do with Catalog: > You can backup the catalog to some changable media (tape, CD/DWD-RW). > You can pull the (zipped and may be encrypted) catalog to some or all of > your clients. > You can send your (zipped and maybe encrypted) Catalog to some friend of > you (and you can backup his catalog for reciprocation), but it may be a > violence of the data privacy (even if the Catalog contain only names and > sizes). > You can forward the bacula messages (completed backups) to some external > mail address and then if needed you can reconstruct the job-volume > binding from them. > The complete catalog is too big for sending it by e-mail, but still you > can do SQL selection in catalog after the backup and send the job-volume > bindings and some other relevant information to the external email > address in CSV format. > Still you can (and I strongly recommend to) backup the catalog every > time after the daily bunch of Jobs and extract it when needed with other > bacula tools (bextract). > > 2) I thought, you are in lack of disk space, so you can't afford to have > the full backup twice plus many differential backups. So I do not see > the difference if I have two full backups on a device for a day or for > few hours, I need that space anyway. But I think this variant is better > to be used it with your original idea: Every full backup volume has its > own pool and the Job Schedule is set up to use volume 1 in odd weeks and > do the immediate differential (practicaly zero sized) backup to the > volume 2 just after the full one and vice-versa in even weeks. > Priorities could help you as well in this case. May be some check if the > full backup was good would be advisable, but I am not sure if bacula can > do this kind of conditional job runs, may be with some python hacking or > some After Run and Before Run scripts. > You can do the same for differential backups - two volumes in two pools, > the first is used and the other cleared - in turns. > And finaly, you can combine it with previous solution and divide it to > sevenths or more parts, but then it would be the real Catalog hell. > > 3) It is the worst solution. If you want to have bad sleep every Monday > (or else day), try it. It is realy risky to loose the backup even for a > while, an accident can strike at any time. > > Marek > > P.S. I could write it in czech, but the other readers can be interested > too :-) > > Radek Hladik napsal(a): >> Hi, >> thanks for your answer. Your idea sounds good. However if I understand >> it correctly, there will be two full backups for the whole day after >> full backup. This is what I am trying to avoid as I will be backing up a >> lot of clients. So as I see it I have these possibilities: >> >> 1) use your scheme and divide clients into seven groups. One group will >> start it's full backup on Monday, second on Tuesday, etd.. So I will >> have all the week two full backups for 1/7 clients. This really seems >> like I will need to backup the catalog at least dozen times because no >> one will be able to deduct which backup is on which volu
Re: [Bacula-users] stored build problems centOS5/postgresql
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:37:30PM -0400, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: > > Where did you get your pgsql libs/bins/devel-includes? RH or Pgsql? > The OpenSSL and Kerberos hooks do not appear to match your system. > they came from the centOS updates repo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bacula-2.2.5]# rpm -qa | grep postg postgresql-tcl-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql-devel-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql-libs-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql-pl-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql-server-8.1.9-1.el5 postgresql.x86_648.1.9-1.el5updates Matched from: postgresql PostgreSQL client programs and libraries. -- michael - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] stored build problems centOS5/postgresql
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:25 -0400, Michael Galloway wrote: > good day all, i'm trying to build 2.2.5 on centOS5 with postgresql. my config > looks > /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:949: > undefined reference to `SSL_CTX_new' > /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:946: > undefined reference to `SSL_library_init' > /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:947: > undefined reference to `SSL_load_error_strings' Where did you get your pgsql libs/bins/devel-includes? RH or Pgsql? The OpenSSL and Kerberos hooks do not appear to match your system. ~BAS - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] prevent bacula to backup recently restored files
Hello list, how can I prevent bacula to re-write files to tape after I've recently restored them to same location. A similiar problem is when I've moved them to a new (logical) volume which is mounted under same mount point afterwards. No files were changed but complete tree is re-backuped when next backup job is running. I'm pretty sure it's ctime, mtime, atime related, but what's a safe way to backup only changed files? I can give you a fully "stat" output of files in mentioned trees, but first look via "ls" gives me correct "old" dates. Our bacula server is a 1.38.9 version, most fd-clients also, some are 1.38.11. An update to 2.x.x in short-time is no option because of a working production environment including a well adapted rescue disc which covers bacula server and client bare metal restores. thanks Martin - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] stored build problems centOS5/postgresql
good day all, i'm trying to build 2.2.5 on centOS5 with postgresql. my config looks like this: Database lib: -L/usr/lib64 -lpq -lcrypt Database name: bacula Database user: bacula Job Output Email: Traceback Email: SMTP Host Address: Director Port: 9101 File daemon Port: 9102 Storage daemon Port:9103 Director User: Director Group: Storage Daemon User: Storage DaemonGroup: File Daemon User: File Daemon Group: SQL binaries Directory /usr/bin Large file support: yes Bacula conio support: yes -ltermcap readline support: no TCP Wrappers support: no TLS support:no Encryption support: no ZLIB support: yes enable-smartalloc: yes bat support:no enable-gnome: no enable-bwx-console: no enable-tray-monitor: client-only:no build-dird: yes build-stored: yes ACL support:yes Python support: yes -L/usr/lib64/python2.4/config -lpython2.4 -lutil -lrt Batch insert enabled: yes but the build fails in building stored with this: /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/ip.c:81: warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking ../lib/libbac.a(bnet.o): In function `resolv_host': /usr/local/bacula-2.2.5/src/lib/bnet.c:424: warning: Using 'gethostbyname2' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking ../lib/libbac.a(address_conf.o): In function `add_address': /usr/local/bacula-2.2.5/src/lib/address_conf.c:310: warning: Using 'getservbyname' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-misc.o): In function `pqSocketCheck': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-misc.c:972: undefined reference to `SSL_pending' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `SSLerrmessage': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1198: undefined reference to `ERR_get_error' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1204: undefined reference to `ERR_reason_error_string' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `pqsecure_write': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:415: undefined reference to `SSL_write' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:416: undefined reference to `SSL_get_error' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `pqsecure_read': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:324: undefined reference to `SSL_read' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:325: undefined reference to `SSL_get_error' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `close_SSL': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1165: undefined reference to `SSL_shutdown' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1166: undefined reference to `SSL_free' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1172: undefined reference to `X509_free' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `open_client_SSL': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1035: undefined reference to `SSL_connect' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1038: undefined reference to `SSL_get_error' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1115: undefined reference to `SSL_get_peer_certificate' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1128: undefined reference to `X509_get_subject_name' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1128: undefined reference to `X509_NAME_oneline' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1132: undefined reference to `X509_get_subject_name' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:1132: undefined reference to `X509_NAME_get_text_by_NID' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `pqsecure_open_client': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:270: undefined reference to `SSL_new' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:270: undefined reference to `SSL_set_ex_data' /builddir/build/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.9/src/interfaces/libpq/fe-secure.c:270: undefined reference to `SSL_set_fd' /usr/lib64/libpq.a(fe-secure.o): In function `destroy_SSL': /builddir/build/BUILD/postgre
Re: [Bacula-users] iSCSI-Tape problems
Christoph Litauer wrote: > Dear bacula users, > > I am running bacula-mysql 2.2.5 (rpm from sourceforge) on a SuSE SLES > 10SP1 machine, kernel version 2.6.16 (SMP). > > I configured and mounted tape drive via iSCSI. I can tar from and to > this drive without problems. I can label a tape with btape, read this > label without problems. But immediatly after writing a few blocks using > qfill or wr the machine stops working. One of my write attempts left a > kernel panic message in /var/log/messages: > > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Bad page state in process 'btape' > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: page:c16cce40 flags:0x8000 > mapping: mapcount:0 count:1 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Backtrace: > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] bad_page+0x42/0x68 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __free_pages_ok+0x55/0xe4 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] normalize_buffer+0x31/0x63 [st] > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] st_release+0x1e/0x45 [st] > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __fput+0xa1/0x167 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] filp_close+0x4e/0x54 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Bad page state in process 'btape' > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: page:c16cce60 flags:0x8080 > mapping: mapcount:0 count:1 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Backtrace: > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] bad_page+0x42/0x68 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __free_pages_ok+0x55/0xe4 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] normalize_buffer+0x31/0x63 [st] > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] st_release+0x1e/0x45 [st] > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __fput+0xa1/0x167 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] filp_close+0x4e/0x54 > Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 > > So this seems to be a kernel bug. Googling lead me to > http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg17890.html > but this didn't help too much ... > This can happen when ClearPageReserved() is not called for a reserved kernel memory page. Could be an iSCSI driver (included with the Linux kernel) problem or, if you are using a hardware iSCSI adapter, it could be a problem with its driver. > My question is: What is the difference between the tape write actions of > tar and btape? Maybe I will be able to configure the tape device so that > btape doesn't run in kernel panics any more? > Well, btape is very likely using a different block size than you used with tar. The default block size for btape is 126x512 = 64,512 bytes. The default for tar is 20x512 = 10,240 bytes. Try setting 'Maximum block size = 10240' and 'Minimum block size = 10240' in the bacula-sd.conf config file being used by btape. If that works, then try tar with '-b 64512' and see if tar causes the same problem with large block sizes. If neither wroks with the larger block size, then you will have to use the smaller block size until the iSCSI bug is fixed. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem backing up catalog
In the message dated: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:39:00 BST,
The pithy ruminations from Simon Barrett on
were:
=> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 14:52:21 Mateus Interciso wrote:
=> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:44:15 +0100, Chris Howells wrote:
=> > > Mateus Interciso wrote:
[SNIP!]
=>
=>
=> On this matter; adding the password to the RunBeforeJob line causes my
=> database password to appear on the status emails:
=>
=> 24-Oct 13:09 fs01-dir: BeforeJob: run command
"/etc/bacula/make_catalog_backup
=> bacula bacula MyPasswordHere"
=>
=> Status emails are sent in clear text across our network. Is there a
=> recommended solution to include sensitive variables in the config files
=> without exposing them like this?
Sure. Here's one easy solution:
In $BACULA/bacula-dir.conf, have the catalog backup job call a wrapper
script instead of calling make_catalog_backup directly, as in:
=== bacula-dir.conf snippet ===
# Backup the catalog database (after the nightly save)
Job {
Name = "BackupCatalog"
Type = Backup
Level = Full
Messages = Standard
Priority = 10
Storage = pv132t
Prefer Mounted Volumes = yes
Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 1
Pool = Incremental
Incremental Backup Pool = Incremental
SpoolData = yes
Client = parthenon-fd
FileSet="Catalog"
Schedule = "AfterBackup"
RunBeforeJob = "/usr/local/bacula/bin/make_catalog_backup.wrapper"
RunAfterJob = "/usr/local/bacula/bin/run_after_catalog_backup"
Write Bootstrap = "/usr/local/bacula/var/working/BackupCatalog.bsr"
Priority = 11 # run after main backup
}
===
The wrapper script is something like:
=== make_catalog_backup.wrapper ===
#! /bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bacula/bin/make_catalog_backup bacula bacula $PASSWORD
===
This will prevent mail from bacula from including the database password. The
advantage to this method is that it doesn't change make_catalog_backup, so that
future bacula upgrades will be transparent.
The good news is that mysql is security-conscious enough to overwrite the
command line parameter for the password, so a "ps" display doesn't show the
password as part of the mysql command.
Unfortunately, make_catalog_backup is not that smart, and a "ps" (or grepping
through /proc) will show the password on the command-line. If the backup server
is a single user machine that you consider secure, this may not represent too
much of a risk.
On the other hand, if you want to eliminate this problem completely, skip
the wrapper script and modify make_catalog_backup so that it uses hard-coded
values from within the script instead of command-line parameters for the
dbname, the dbuser, and the password.
=>
=> Regards,
=>
=> Simon Barrett
=>
Mark Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administrator
Section of Biomedical Image Analysis 215-662-7310
Department of Radiology, University of Pennsylvania
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[Bacula-users] name of current client
Hi, how can i get the name of the current client (host) in bacula-dir.conf. Please don't answer: 'use python' - i don't know how. I want to use it in a line 'File = "|sh -c 'grep \"^ClientName ... How can i fill ClientName ? thanks, Markus Markus Goldberg | Universität Hildesheim | Rechenzentrum Tel +49 5121 883203 | Marienburger Platz 22, D-31141 Hildesheim, Germany Fax +49 5121 883205 | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] iSCSI-Tape problems
Dear bacula users, I am running bacula-mysql 2.2.5 (rpm from sourceforge) on a SuSE SLES 10SP1 machine, kernel version 2.6.16 (SMP). I configured and mounted tape drive via iSCSI. I can tar from and to this drive without problems. I can label a tape with btape, read this label without problems. But immediatly after writing a few blocks using qfill or wr the machine stops working. One of my write attempts left a kernel panic message in /var/log/messages: Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Bad page state in process 'btape' Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: page:c16cce40 flags:0x8000 mapping: mapcount:0 count:1 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Backtrace: Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] bad_page+0x42/0x68 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __free_pages_ok+0x55/0xe4 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] normalize_buffer+0x31/0x63 [st] Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] st_release+0x1e/0x45 [st] Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __fput+0xa1/0x167 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] filp_close+0x4e/0x54 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Bad page state in process 'btape' Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: page:c16cce60 flags:0x8080 mapping: mapcount:0 count:1 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Trying to fix it up, but a reboot is needed Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: Backtrace: Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] bad_page+0x42/0x68 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __free_pages_ok+0x55/0xe4 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] normalize_buffer+0x31/0x63 [st] Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] st_release+0x1e/0x45 [st] Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] __fput+0xa1/0x167 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] filp_close+0x4e/0x54 Oct 24 13:28:26 bacula kernel: [] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x79 So this seems to be a kernel bug. Googling lead me to http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg17890.html but this didn't help too much ... My question is: What is the difference between the tape write actions of tar and btape? Maybe I will be able to configure the tape device so that btape doesn't run in kernel panics any more? -- Regards Christoph Christoph Litauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni Koblenz, Computing Center, http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~litauer Postfach 201602, 56016 Koblenz Fon: +49 261 287-1311, Fax: -100 1311 PGP-Fingerprint: F39C E314 2650 650D 8092 9514 3A56 FBD8 79E3 27B2 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem backing up catalog
On 24 Oct 2007 at 14:39, Simon Barrett wrote: > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 14:52:21 Mateus Interciso wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:44:15 +0100, Chris Howells wrote: > > > Mateus Interciso wrote: > > >> But on the bacula-dir.conf file, I do have setted up the bacula > > >> password on the Catalog configuration, so why is he not even trying to > > >> use it? The other backups run absolutly normal. > > > > > > You are running make_catalog_backup with the wrong arguments. This is > > > configured via the RunBeforeJob line, not the catalog resource. > > > > > > From 'make_catalog_backup' (which is a shell script). > > > > > > # $1 is the name of the database to be backed up and the name # of > > > the output file (default = bacula). # $2 is the user name with which to > > > access the database # (default = bacula). > > > # $3 is the password with which to access the database or "" if no > > > password # (default "") > > > > > > > > > So you need a third argument which is the db password. Modify the > > > > > > RunBeforeJob = "make_catalog_backup bacula bacula" to read > > > > > > to read > > > > > > RunBeforeJob = "make_catalog_backup bacula bacula " > > > > - > > > > Now it worked, thanks :D > > I just wonder why it was working before, since the configuration files > > are exactly the same, and the env is the same as well > > > On this matter; adding the password to the RunBeforeJob line causes my > database password to appear on the status emails: > > 24-Oct 13:09 fs01-dir: BeforeJob: run command > "/etc/bacula/make_catalog_backup > bacula bacula MyPasswordHere" > > Status emails are sent in clear text across our network. Is there a > recommended solution to include sensitive variables in the config files > without exposing them like this? http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Catalog_Maintenance.html Click on Security considerations -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] wx-console on Windows won't talk to director on Linux (bug?)
I've been running Bacula for several months to back up several Linux servers to disk on one of them. I also installed Bacula on a Windows workstation, and was able to run backup jobs from it (that is, pulling data from the file-daemon there). However, when I run the wx-console on Windows and point it at the director running on Ubuntu, I get errors like the following: Welcome to bacula wx-console 2.0.3 (06 March 2007)! Using this configuration file: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Bacula\wx-console.conf Connecting... Connected 1000 OK: IT-dir Version: 2.0.3 (06 March 2007) .helpautodisplay: is an invalid command. #.messages : is an invalid command. #.help: is an invalid command. .messages : is an invalid command. .messages : is an invalid command. .messages : is an invalid command. .messages : is an invalid command. When I go into the "restore" screen, the drop-down boxes for client, etc., don't have suitably-populated lists; instead, they say stuff like ".clients?: is an invalid command" where the "?" is actually a little square box. My guess is that the console is sending lines terminated by "\r\n", and the director is only stripping the "\n" from each line before parsing it. -- David Lee Lambert Software Developer, Precision Motor Transport Group, LLC 517-349-3011 x223 (work) ... 586-873-8813 (cell) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem backing up catalog
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 14:52:21 Mateus Interciso wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:44:15 +0100, Chris Howells wrote: > > Mateus Interciso wrote: > >> But on the bacula-dir.conf file, I do have setted up the bacula > >> password on the Catalog configuration, so why is he not even trying to > >> use it? The other backups run absolutly normal. > > > > You are running make_catalog_backup with the wrong arguments. This is > > configured via the RunBeforeJob line, not the catalog resource. > > > > From 'make_catalog_backup' (which is a shell script). > > > > # $1 is the name of the database to be backed up and the name # of > > the output file (default = bacula). # $2 is the user name with which to > > access the database # (default = bacula). > > # $3 is the password with which to access the database or "" if no > > password # (default "") > > > > > > So you need a third argument which is the db password. Modify the > > > > RunBeforeJob = "make_catalog_backup bacula bacula" to read > > > > to read > > > > RunBeforeJob = "make_catalog_backup bacula bacula " > > - > > Now it worked, thanks :D > I just wonder why it was working before, since the configuration files > are exactly the same, and the env is the same as well On this matter; adding the password to the RunBeforeJob line causes my database password to appear on the status emails: 24-Oct 13:09 fs01-dir: BeforeJob: run command "/etc/bacula/make_catalog_backup bacula bacula MyPasswordHere" Status emails are sent in clear text across our network. Is there a recommended solution to include sensitive variables in the config files without exposing them like this? Regards, Simon Barrett - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] [SOLVED] Re: spurious tracebacks
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: > IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: >> hi all >> >> >> the emails usually are sent when nothing interesting is happening (my >> backups are all finished at night; the emails are sent somewhen during >> the day). >> >> however, receiving tracebacks gives me an uneasy feeling. >> >> any idea why they might occur? (ok, my information i give here is rather >> sparse, so i should ask: how should i investigate why they occur?) > > seems i forgot something crucial (at least i think it is important): > > all 3 affected daemons are running after that. > most likely they are not the same processes (PID) before the tracebacks, > but bacula is doing backups before and after the tracebacks occured > (and no backups are scheduled at the moment the traceback occurs). > it turned out to be rather simple: after a good look at the headers of the traceback-emails, i noticed that they have not at all been sent from my backup machine, but from the machine where i did my initial tests (before deploying bacula). so the tracebacks where totally unrelated to my running backup-system, and instead might be related to my everyday updating and fuzzing around on the test machine... sorry for the noise fasd.r IOhannes -- IEM - network operation center mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Job started twice
Here is the configuration for the client, it is the same as every other.
#DIRECTOR
Client {
Name = "sv27"
Address = 10.123.0.25
FDPort = 1
Catalog = "MyCatalog"
Password = ""
AutoPrune = no
}
Job {
Name = "sv27"
Client = "sv27"
JobDefs = "secnet-def"
Write Bootstrap = "/home/bacula/sv27.bsr"
Schedule = "sv27"
Storage = "sv27"
Pool = "sv27"
Fileset = "sv27"
Enabled = "yes"
}
Pool {
Name = "sv27"
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = no
AutoPrune = no
LabelFormat = "sv27"
UseVolumeOnce = yes
}
Storage {
Name = "sv27"
Address = 10.123.0.1
SDPort = 10001
Password = ""
Media Type = File
Device = "sv27"
}
Storage {
Name = "sv27-onsite"
Address = 10.123.0.25
SDPort = 10001
Password = ""
Media Type = File
Device = "sv27"
}
FileSet {
Name = "sv27"
Ignore FileSet Changes = yes
Enable VSS = yes
Include {
Options {
signature = MD5
compression = GZIP
sparse = yes
}
File = "c:/"
File = "d:/"
}
}
Schedule {
Name = "sv27"
Run = Level=Incremental sun-sat at 18:00
}
#STORAGE DAEMON
Device {
Name = "sv27"
Media Type = File
Archive Device = "/home/bacula/storage/d1"
LabelMedia = yes; # Automatically label new volumes
Random Access = Yes; # Filesystem environment
AutomaticMount = yes; # Filesystem is always available
RemovableMedia = no; # A filesystem is NOT removable
AlwaysOpen = no; # Not important for filesystem usage
}
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Re: [Bacula-users] Disk backup recycling
My opinion to your ideas: 0) Leave the schema as I submited and buy more disk space for backuping. :-) 1) It is best variant I think. The other advantage is that the full backup of all clients would take much longer time then 1/7th full and other differential. Now what to do with Catalog: You can backup the catalog to some changable media (tape, CD/DWD-RW). You can pull the (zipped and may be encrypted) catalog to some or all of your clients. You can send your (zipped and maybe encrypted) Catalog to some friend of you (and you can backup his catalog for reciprocation), but it may be a violence of the data privacy (even if the Catalog contain only names and sizes). You can forward the bacula messages (completed backups) to some external mail address and then if needed you can reconstruct the job-volume binding from them. The complete catalog is too big for sending it by e-mail, but still you can do SQL selection in catalog after the backup and send the job-volume bindings and some other relevant information to the external email address in CSV format. Still you can (and I strongly recommend to) backup the catalog every time after the daily bunch of Jobs and extract it when needed with other bacula tools (bextract). 2) I thought, you are in lack of disk space, so you can't afford to have the full backup twice plus many differential backups. So I do not see the difference if I have two full backups on a device for a day or for few hours, I need that space anyway. But I think this variant is better to be used it with your original idea: Every full backup volume has its own pool and the Job Schedule is set up to use volume 1 in odd weeks and do the immediate differential (practicaly zero sized) backup to the volume 2 just after the full one and vice-versa in even weeks. Priorities could help you as well in this case. May be some check if the full backup was good would be advisable, but I am not sure if bacula can do this kind of conditional job runs, may be with some python hacking or some After Run and Before Run scripts. You can do the same for differential backups - two volumes in two pools, the first is used and the other cleared - in turns. And finaly, you can combine it with previous solution and divide it to sevenths or more parts, but then it would be the real Catalog hell. 3) It is the worst solution. If you want to have bad sleep every Monday (or else day), try it. It is realy risky to loose the backup even for a while, an accident can strike at any time. Marek P.S. I could write it in czech, but the other readers can be interested too :-) Radek Hladik napsal(a): > Hi, > thanks for your answer. Your idea sounds good. However if I understand > it correctly, there will be two full backups for the whole day after > full backup. This is what I am trying to avoid as I will be backing up a > lot of clients. So as I see it I have these possibilities: > > 1) use your scheme and divide clients into seven groups. One group will > start it's full backup on Monday, second on Tuesday, etd.. So I will > have all the week two full backups for 1/7 clients. This really seems > like I will need to backup the catalog at least dozen times because no > one will be able to deduct which backup is on which volume :-) > 2) modify your scheme as there will be another differential backup right > after the full backup before next job starts. It will effectively erase > the last week full backup. > 3) use only 7 volumes and retention 6 days and live with the fact, that > there is no backup during backup. > > Now I only need to decide which option will be the best one :-) > > Radek > > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with 'Automatic Volume Labeling'
On 2007.10.23. 22:02, Arno Lehmann wrote:
...
> That requirement, by the way, is not very problematic. The sample
> given in the manual should almost work out of the box, and python is
> easier to learn than Baculas variable substitution language :-)
i do not agree with that ;)
>>> This is described in the manual, for example
>>> http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html#SECTION00356
>> ...
i'm now trying to understand at least something in all this...
1. the example has a section that is not simply stating noop, but is
preceded by it :
def JobInit(self, job):
noop = 1
if (job.JobId < 2):
startid = job.run("run kernsave")
job.JobReport = "Python started new Job: jobid=%d\n" % startid
print "name=%s version=%s conf=%s working=%s" % (bacula.Name,
bacula.Version, bacula.ConfigFile, bacula.WorkingDir)
manual says "If you do not want a particular event, simply replace the
existing code with a noop = 1."
what does this section do then ? is preceding it with noop = 1 also
disabling it ?
2. the volume label itself.
i guess i should leave at least parts of "def JobStart", right ?
it creates JobEvents class, which in turn includes what seems to be the
correct section - "def NewVolume".
i suppose this line should be modified :
Vol = "TestA-%d" % numvol
later two other lines have same string :
job.JobReport = "Exists=%d TestA-%d" % (job.DoesVolumeExist(Vol), numvol)
job.VolumeName="TestA-%d" % numvol
must i replace all of these strings ? if yes, can't they just be
referenced from the first string, "Vol" ?
now, as for constructing the volume labal string... it seems that most
variables map to something "job." - like job.Pool, job.Job, job.Level etc.
how would i use these variables to define the label ?
i am trying to imitate a volume label like
"${Pool}_${Job}-${Level}-${Year}.${Month:p/2/0/r}.${Day:p/2/0/r}-${Hour:p/2/0/r}.${Minute:p/2/0/r}"
which would also require variables like year, month etc. how can i
include those ?
i'm really lost with all this, but this probably is the best time to do
this as i have set up a test system before attempting a large upgrade,
so postponing the change can come back to me later...
...
> Arno
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Re: [Bacula-users] spurious tracebacks
IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote: > hi all > > > the emails usually are sent when nothing interesting is happening (my > backups are all finished at night; the emails are sent somewhen during > the day). > > however, receiving tracebacks gives me an uneasy feeling. > > any idea why they might occur? (ok, my information i give here is rather > sparse, so i should ask: how should i investigate why they occur?) seems i forgot something crucial (at least i think it is important): all 3 affected daemons are running after that. most likely they are not the same processes (PID) before the tracebacks, but bacula is doing backups before and after the tracebacks occured (and no backups are scheduled at the moment the traceback occurs). fma.dsr IOhannes -- IEM - network operation center mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] spurious tracebacks
Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: >> every now and then (the last one was today; then 1 month before; then 10 >> days before that,...) i get traceback emails from my backup-server, each >> for all of the 3 daemons (dir, file, storage) running there. > > *) Run the SD in foreground mode with debug level setup i will try that. > *) Run the SD in ktrace/ptrace i rty to avoid this as long as possible: i don't feel (yet) like running SD in ptrace for an entire month to see something in the end. > Is something possibly sending the process a signal? A log rotation > script etc? i was thinking along these lines too. but then the event happens at indetermined times (at least for me:-)), so it shouldn't be related to a cron-job (there are no cron-entries regarding bacula that i would have found; nor do the exact time when such an event occurs relate to anything found in the cron-settings) logrotate is in operation and it is running a monthly rotation which does not correspond to the tracebacks. anyhow, thanks for the suggestions. fdamrd IOhannes -- IEM - network operation center mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Error Handling failed Jobs
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Re: [Bacula-users] FD - SD problem
Hello, > Hi, > > 22.10.2007 21:26,, GDS.Marshall wrote:: >> version 2.2.4 patched from sourceforge >> Linux kernel 2.6.x >> >> I am running 10+ FD's, one SD, and one Director. I am having problems >> with one of my FD's, the others are fine. Not sure if it makes any >> difference, but the FD is on the same machine as the Director. > >> I have no issues with the network, I see no errors on either the >> interface >> of the FD or the SD. All FD's are plugged into the same netgear switch. >> The SD is plugged into a different netgear switch which is then plugged >> into the FD's switch. > > Are the FD and SD running on the same host (your description says that > DIR and problem FD are on the same machine, but not if the DIR and SD > are on that same machine, too)? No, the SD is on its own machine FD+DIR FD FD | | | GSW--- Gig Switch | FSW--- Fast Switch | SD > >> I run a backup job (or via schedule) and the amount/size/volume of data >> is >> transfered each time, and then everything stops/hangs/does nothing. >> >> ls -l >> /var/data/bacula/spool/backupserver-sd.data.472.fileserver-backup.2007-10-22_18.54.33.DLT-V4.spool >> -rw-r- 1 root bacula 2193816 Oct 22 18:56 >> >> A short while later, I will get a console message >> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: 3301 Issuing autochanger "loaded? drive 0" >> command. >> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: 3302 Autochanger "loaded? drive 0", result >> is Slot 3. >> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: Volume "CNI906" previously written, moving >> to end of data. >> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: Ready to append to end of Volume "CNI906" >> at >> file=1. >> 22-Oct 18:56 backupserver-sd: Spooling data ... >> 22-Oct 18:56 fileserver-fd: fileserver-backup.2007-10-22_18.54.33 Fatal >> error: backup.c:892 Network send error to SD. ERR=Success > > So the connection breaks shortly after data starts being transferred, > right? Correct, 2193816 is always written. > > It's a little bit surprising to see an error text of Success here... I > always thought that sort of things only happened on windows ;-) ROTFL. The FD, Dir, SD are on linux machines, we have not ventured to the Windows FD yet. > > >> I know it says "Network send error", however, I have checked the >> network, >> and can not find a problem with any of the equipment. > > Do you have a firewall running on that host? No firewalls running on any of the bacula hosts, and the switch is not a 3com. > >> I have run the fd and sd with debug options to provide additional >> output, >> I hope this helps. >> >> If any other information would help in diagnosis, please just ask for >> it. >> >> >> /usr/local/sbin/bacula-fd -f -s -d 200 -u root -g bacula -c >> /etc/bacula/bacula-fd.conf >> >> /home/spencer/bacula-sd -f -d 200 -s -u root -g bacula -c >> /etc/bacula/bacula-sd.conf >> >> cat /root/bacula-fd.log >> bacula-fd: filed_conf.c:438 Inserting director res: fileserver-mon >> fileserver-fd: jcr.c:132 read_last_jobs seek to 188 >> fileserver-fd: jcr.c:139 Read num_items=10 >> fileserver-fd: pythonlib.c:113 No script dir. prog=FDStartUp >> fileserver-fd: filed.c:225 filed: listening on port 9102 >> fileserver-fd: bnet_server.c:96 Addresses host[ipv4:0.0.0.0:9102] >> fileserver-fd: bnet.c:666 who=client host=192.168.1.30 port=36387 >> fileserver-fd: jcr.c:602 OnEntry JobStatus=fileserver-fd: jcr.c:622 >> OnExit >> JobStatus=C set=C >> fileserver-fd: find.c:81 init_find_files ff=8094e60 >> fileserver-fd: job.c:233 > fileserver-fd: job.c:249 Executing Hello command. >> fileserver-fd: job.c:353 Calling Authenticate >> fileserver-fd: cram-md5.c:71 send: auth cram-md5 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssl=0 >> fileserver-fd: cram-md5.c:131 cram-get: auth cram-md5 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssl=0 >> fileserver-fd: cram-md5.c:150 sending resp to challenge: >> 6U+ZK4lCcB/uXh+k+X/qdB >> fileserver-fd: job.c:357 OK Authenticate >> fileserver-fd: job.c:233 > Job=-Console-.2007-10-22_18.53.31 >> SDid=0 SDtime=0 Authorization=dummy >> fileserver-fd: job.c:249 Executing JobId= command. >> fileserver-fd: job.c:451 JobId=0 Auth=dummy >> fileserver-fd: job.c:233 > status command. >> fileserver-fd: runscript.c:102 runscript: running all RUNSCRIPT object >> (ClientAfterJob) JobStatus=C >> fileserver-fd: pythonlib.c:237 No startup module. >> fileserver-fd: job.c:337 Calling term_find_files >> fileserver-fd: job.c:340 Done with term_find_files >> fileserver-fd: mem_pool.c:377 garbage collect memory pool >> fileserver-fd: job.c:342 Done with free_jcr >> fileserver-fd: bnet.c:666 who=client host=192.168.1.30 port=36387 >> fileserver-fd: jcr.c:602 OnEntry JobStatus=fileserver-fd: jcr.c:622 >> OnExit >> JobStatus=C set=C >> fileserver-fd: find.c:81 init_find_files ff=8094e60 >> fileserver-fd: job.c:233 > fileserver-fd: job.c:249 Executing Hello command. >> fileserver-fd: job.c:353 Calling Authenticate >> fileserver-fd: cram-md5.c:71 send: auth cram-md5 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssl=0 >> fileserver-fd: cram-md5.c:131 cram
Re: [Bacula-users] Calling client script ( Before / After jobs ) with parameters
Hi, 24.10.2007 10:44,, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:: > El mar, 23-10-2007 a las 20:35 +0200, Arno Lehmann escribió: >> Hello, >> > >>> I'm a completely python ignorant, and before spend time trying to >>> understand how to translate this behavior to python way of life, I >>> prefer ear from you. >> You won't get my ear :-) >> > > Ahem... ok, may be I prefer listen :P > > The abstract idea is to define the rman variables informed in the client > definitions and using the same job definition for standard backup > procedures Yeah... well, passing the parameters through the command definition in the job should work. Getting them from outside of Bacula might be more complicated, but you'd have to try that... >> The rest of your approach seems reasonable and should be easily >> implemented. I found python was easy to learn and use, so for me it >> was definitely worth the effort. >> >> Of course, using bash or whatever shell you prefer can be done, too. I >> think it's more or less a question of what you prefer. >> >> If you start working on it, and expect to spend some time on this >> anyway, I'd suggest to pipe the rman output to Bacula directly, >> without the need of a dump file in between. That saves you a bit of >> disk space on the client. >> > > > That's very interesting, I will investigate how rman works with fifos, > but afaik, fifo has a maximum throughput of 8K/s, it's correct? Not per se... see here: neuelf:/tmp # mkfifo testfifo neuelf:/tmp # cat testfifo > /dev/null & [1] 22889 neuelf:/tmp # dd if=/dev/zero bs=4096 of=testfifo count=2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB) copied, 17.5983 s, 488 MB/s [1]+ Donecat testfifo > /dev/null A bit better than 8k/second, I'd say. This is on a dual-core Opteron running a 2.6.22.5 linux kernel, by the way. The machine is practically idle all the time. > >> The necessary parts are all available - you can backup from and >> restore to a FIFO in Bacula, and you can call scripts to set up the >> pipes and reader/writer processes. There are examples available, I'd >> start reading at wiki.bacula.org if I were you. >> > > I will take a look to see if fifo approach fits well in bacula/rman > integration. As far as I know, it should. Not being an Oracle user, I don't have the personal experience, though. Arno >> Of course, whatever you come up with might be worth adding to the >> wiki, too. >> >> Arno >> > > Thanks again > > D. > > -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Calling client script ( Before / After jobs ) with parameters
El mar, 23-10-2007 a las 20:35 +0200, Arno Lehmann escribió: > Hello, > > > > > I'm a completely python ignorant, and before spend time trying to > > understand how to translate this behavior to python way of life, I > > prefer ear from you. > > You won't get my ear :-) > Ahem... ok, may be I prefer listen :P The abstract idea is to define the rman variables informed in the client definitions and using the same job definition for standard backup procedures > The rest of your approach seems reasonable and should be easily > implemented. I found python was easy to learn and use, so for me it > was definitely worth the effort. > > Of course, using bash or whatever shell you prefer can be done, too. I > think it's more or less a question of what you prefer. > > If you start working on it, and expect to spend some time on this > anyway, I'd suggest to pipe the rman output to Bacula directly, > without the need of a dump file in between. That saves you a bit of > disk space on the client. > That's very interesting, I will investigate how rman works with fifos, but afaik, fifo has a maximum throughput of 8K/s, it's correct? > The necessary parts are all available - you can backup from and > restore to a FIFO in Bacula, and you can call scripts to set up the > pipes and reader/writer processes. There are examples available, I'd > start reading at wiki.bacula.org if I were you. > I will take a look to see if fifo approach fits well in bacula/rman integration. > Of course, whatever you come up with might be worth adding to the > wiki, too. > > Arno > Thanks again D. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] need help defining client files for backup...
Hi,
24.10.2007 04:31,, David Gardner wrote::
> Guys,
>
> If I understand you correctly, the following should be a_piece_ of
> the bacula-dir.conf. I want to understand this but the problem
> still remains, how do I tie the files on WEB1, DB2 and RptEngine
> into the default job?
Short answer: You don't :-)
In the JobDefs, you have the common settings for the jobs referring
this default setup.
In each job, you overload the settings that change, in your case, the
FileSet.
So you end up with a common JobDefs resource used by all your jobs,
and in each job definition, you have a line for the FileSet, the
Client, and the bootstrap file to write. Of course, other settings
could be changed, too - for example the schedule, the pools to use,
and the retention times.
You end up with something like this:
JobDefs {
Name = DefaultJob
... default settings
}
Client {
Name = 1
...
}
Client {
Name = 2
...
}
FileSet {
Name = F1
...
}
FileSet {
Name = F2
...
}
Job {
Name = J1
JobDefs = DefaultJob
Client = 1
Fileset = F1
...
}
Job {
Name = J2
JobDefs = DefaultJob
Client = 2
FileSet = F2
...
}
Does that make more sense?
Arno
>
> JobDefs { Name = "DefaultJob" Type = Backup Level = Incremental
> Client = DURANGO-fd FileSet = "Full Set" Schedule = "WeeklyCycle"
> Storage = DAT72 Messages = ConsOnly# no email during
> testing Pool = Default Priority = 10 }
>
>
>
> # Localhost to backup Client { Name = DURANGO-fd Address = DURANGO
> FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password = "l4...y"#
> password for FileDaemon File Retention = 30 days# 30 days
> Job Retention = 6 months# six months AutoPrune = yes
> # Prune expired Jobs/Files }
>
> # Local files FileSet { Name = "Full Set" Include { Options {
> signature = MD5 } File = /home/dgardner }
>
> }
>
>
> # # Database Client to backup # Client { Name = DB2-fd Address =
> DB2 FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password = "l4...2"
> # password for FileDaemon File Retention = 30 days# 30 days
> Job Retention = 6 months# six months AutoPrune = yes
> # Prune expired Jobs/Files }
>
> # Database files FileSet { Name = "Full Set" Include { Options {
> Compression=GZIP } File = /var/lib/mysql/airadvice-backup/c* }
>
> }
>
>
>
> # # Web Server Client to backup # Client { Name = WEB1-fd Address =
> WEB1 FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password = "l4...2"
> # password for FileDaemon File Retention = 30 days# 30 days
> Job Retention = 6 months# six months AutoPrune = yes
> # Prune expired Jobs/Files }
>
> # Webserver files FileSet { Name = "Full Set" Include { Options {
> Compression=GZIP } File = /web/sites/* }
>
> }
>
>
> # # Report Engine Client to backup # Client { Name = RptEngine1-fd
> Address = RptEngine1 FDPort = 9102 Catalog = MyCatalog Password =
> "l4...2"# password for FileDaemon File Retention = 30
> days# 30 days Job Retention = 6 months# six months
> AutoPrune = yes# Prune expired Jobs/Files }
>
> # RptEngine files FileSet { Name = "Full Set" Include { Options {
> Compression=GZIP } File = /usr/local/reports/A* }
>
> } /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ David
> Gardner email: djgardner(at)yahoo.com Yahoo! IM: djgardner AIM:
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>
> - Original Message From: Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 23,
> 2007 3:01:24 PM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] need help defining
> client files for backup...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> 23.10.2007 23:57,, David Gardner wrote::
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> I've read through all the docs I can find on the subject but just
>> cannot decipher the correct method of describing in a fileset
>> which directories on which client machine should be backed up.
>>
>> Here's the Linux Server:/directories I want backed up where the
>> connections have all been made and I successfully backed up the
> local files:
>> {localhost:}/home/* RptEngine1:/usr/local/reports/A*.pdf
>> DB2:/var/lib/mysql/* WEB1:/web/sites/*
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> You define the necessary clients first.
>
> Then you create the filesets you need - there will be at least four
> of them.
>
> /home/, /var/lib/mysql/, and /web/sites/ are easy.
>
> /usr/local/reports/A*.pdf will need wildcards or regexes in an
> options clause.
>
> Nte that backing up the mysql database files while the database
> server is running is useless - you need to shut down the database
> server, or dump the databases you're interested in to a file and
> back up that (or these) files.
>
> Hope that gets you started,
>
> Arno
>
>
>
>
>
>
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