Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread George Anchev via Bacula-users
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:47:49 -0600 Dimitri Maziuk via
Bacula-users wrote:

> Check that wal archive_mode is off in
> postgresql.conf and also all replication-related
> stuff.

grep -iE "replic|archive_mode" postgresql.conf

shows only commented lines. Need I change anything?

> Try `psql -U postgres -d postgres -c checkpoint` and
> see if the files start disappearing after that.

They don't:

$ du -hs pg_wal/
769Mpg_wal/
$ psql -U postgres -d postgres -c checkpoint
CHECKPOINT
$ du -hs pg_wal/
769Mpg_wal/

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[Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
PS

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/sql-checkpoint.html

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Re: [Bacula-users] Looking for a LTO autoloader (NeoT24 works)

2018-11-20 Thread Stieneke, Dan via Bacula-users
Sorry it’s late – I don’t read the Bacula list every day.

We successfully use a Neo T24, LTO-6, SAS interface, LSI SAS 9207-8e 
controller, on UB 18.04LTS in ESXi 6.0 (you have to use hardware passthrough on 
the SAS controller card to use a SAS tape drive in ESXi).

We previously used a Tandberg Magnum 224 built circa 2009. Except for SCSI 
interface & LTO-4 speed/capacity, it was a better unit – more steel, less 
plastic, easier to change tapes, better front-panel interface. That’s the limit 
of my experience with autoloaders, so I can’t offer a brand-to-brand comparison.

Good luck,
Dan Stieneke
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208/423-6519



From: Markus Falb 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 4:35 PM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Bacula-users] Looking for a LTO autoloader

Hello,
I am considering a purchase of a relatively small autoloader, but am not sure 
about compatibility with bacula.

I found this one:
https://www.overlandstorage.com/products/tape-libraries-and-autoloaders/neos-t24.aspx#Overview

If anyone on this list has experiences with this autoloader + bacula, please 
let me know.

I does know there is a "supported" list in the documentation
http://www.bacula.org/9.2.x-manuals/en/main/Supported_Autochangers.html
but don't know how comprehensive it is, there are some Overland models listed, 
but not this specific model (There doesn't exist a "not supported" list, does 
it? )

Also, suggestions (or dis-recommendations) for other autoloaders are 
appreciated, of course.

Best Regards, Markus

P.S. the Qualstar Q24 looks pretty identical to the NEOs T24
https://www.qualstar.com/qsr-q24.php
Does anyone know what the differences are?














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Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 11/20/2018 04:56 PM, George Anchev via Bacula-users wrote:

> On the link I read wal_keep_segments "Specifies the
> *minimum* number of past log file segments kept in the
> pg_wal directory". Isn't there a setting which
> controls the *maximum* number/volume/retention of those
> files? (like in a log rotation)

Not that I know of. They keep transactions, so they're not necessarily
correspond to database size. Normally they get auto-recycled unless
either a) archiving is on, but archive command keeps failing, or b)
replication is on but the stand-by(s) keep failing to fetch them.

Check that wal archive_mode is off in postgresql.conf and also all
replication-related stuff.

Try `psql -U postgres -d postgres -c checkpoint` and see if the files
start disappearing after that.

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Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread George Anchev via Bacula-users
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:34:58 -0600 Dimitri Maziuk via
Bacula-users wrote:

> I've 320MB on a server that replicates a database of
> a few million rows, and ~100MB on our bacula server
> w/ a year's worth of backups. What do you call "too
> big"?

As shared in the first message: Right now, even after
drop_bacula_tables and no other databases (except what
psql has as default after installation) I have:

$ du -hs /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_wal/
769M/var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_wal/

That is for an empty bacula database. Those WAL files
seem to be something like a "history" for what has
been done during my tests: dropping tables, importing
catalog, dropping again etc. The actual data which was
used during those imports and drops (also shared in
my first message):

# du -hs bacula-backup.sql
63M bacula-backup.sql

> There is wal_keep_segments:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/runtime-config-replication.html
> but if replication is not on, it's normally only a
> handful of 16MB files in there, like 6 or so.

Right now there are 52 files like those.

I am not creating a super big enterprise system, so
replication is not what I am looking for.

On the link I read wal_keep_segments "Specifies the
*minimum* number of past log file segments kept in the
pg_wal directory". Isn't there a setting which
controls the *maximum* number/volume/retention of those
files? (like in a log rotation)

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Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Bacula-users
On 11/20/2018 03:49 PM, George Anchev via Bacula-users wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:16:52 -0600 Dimitri Maziuk via
> Bacula-users wrote:
> 
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/routine-vacuuming.html
> 
> Good info. Thanks.
> 
>> WAL: don't worry about it unless you want to archive
>> them or replicate your database.
> 
> But the pg_wal directory is way too big and I have no
> idea how to decrease it (without damaging anything).
> Hence the whole question: how to manage that? Is there
> a way to (auto)vacuum this too?

I've 320MB on a server that replicates a database of a few million rows,
and ~100MB on our bacula server w/ a year's worth of backups. What do
you call "too big"?

There is wal_keep_segments:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/runtime-config-replication.html
but if replication is not on, it's normally only a handful of 16MB files
in there, like 6 or so.

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Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL: WAL and log management

2018-11-20 Thread George Anchev via Bacula-users
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:16:52 -0600 Dimitri Maziuk via
Bacula-users wrote:

> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/routine-vacuuming.html

Good info. Thanks.

> WAL: don't worry about it unless you want to archive
> them or replicate your database.

But the pg_wal directory is way too big and I have no
idea how to decrease it (without damaging anything).
Hence the whole question: how to manage that? Is there
a way to (auto)vacuum this too?

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