Re: [Bacula-users] Bat advertisement

2007-08-08 Thread John Drescher
 During the process of getting it fully functional, I found the JobList feature
 of bat particularly useful because it instantly showed me which jobs failed,
 and by right clicking on them, I could even see the Job Report with the
 details of the errors.  Pretty cool.  Though bat was initially my project,
 the majority of the features and virtually all the really nice ones are due
 to Dirk Bartley's efforts.

 You can see an overview of the features at:

http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/GUI_Programs.html

Is bat going to be considered stable for this release? I am sorry if I
missed that.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bat advertisement

2007-08-08 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 15:36, John Drescher wrote:
  During the process of getting it fully functional, I found the JobList
  feature of bat particularly useful because it instantly showed me which
  jobs failed, and by right clicking on them, I could even see the Job
  Report with the details of the errors.  Pretty cool.  Though bat was
  initially my project, the majority of the features and virtually all the
  really nice ones are due to Dirk Bartley's efforts.
 
  You can see an overview of the features at:
 
 http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/GUI_Programs.html

 Is bat going to be considered stable for this release? I am sorry if I
 missed that.

I consider it stable, but given that it is a *very* large body of brand new 
code, we can expect a number of bugs to crop up when it becomes heavily used 
under varying conditions.  I don't expect any of the bugs to be a show 
stopper.  I have used it exclusively for at least four months now.


 John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bat advertisement

2007-08-08 Thread John Drescher
 I consider it stable, but given that it is a *very* large body of brand new
 code, we can expect a number of bugs to crop up when it becomes heavily used
 under varying conditions.  I don't expect any of the bugs to be a show
 stopper.  I have used it exclusively for at least four months now.

I ask that because at least on my setup with bacula 2.1.22 running bat
on the same machine as the director causes the director to segfault on
any query that takes more than a few seconds to execute. One example
of this is clicking on the joblist (which I have around 6200 completed
jobs). I have not had the time to debug this at work because a really
important software deadline is only a few weeks away. At home where I
have 2 clients and a few jobs I have not seen this problem.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bat advertisement

2007-08-08 Thread Rich
On 2007.08.08. 16:59, Kern Sibbald wrote:
...
 You can see an overview of the features at:

http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/GUI_Programs.html
 Is bat going to be considered stable for this release? I am sorry if I
 missed that.
 
 I consider it stable, but given that it is a *very* large body of brand new 
 code, we can expect a number of bugs to crop up when it becomes heavily used 
 under varying conditions.  I don't expect any of the bugs to be a show 
 stopper.  I have used it exclusively for at least four months now.

if there was a restrictd console that would only allow any access only 
to few hosts, would bat sensibly allow accessing director and, for 
example, restoring data ?
or would it freak out because of being unable to access some information ?

if that was possible, it would make some admins pretty happy as they 
could restore their server data with a clickthrough tool themselves :)

 John
-- 
  Rich

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bat advertisement

2007-08-08 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 16:11, John Drescher wrote:
  I consider it stable, but given that it is a *very* large body of brand
  new code, we can expect a number of bugs to crop up when it becomes
  heavily used under varying conditions.  I don't expect any of the bugs to
  be a show stopper.  I have used it exclusively for at least four months
  now.

 I ask that because at least on my setup with bacula 2.1.22 running bat
 on the same machine as the director causes the director to segfault on
 any query that takes more than a few seconds to execute. One example
 of this is clicking on the joblist (which I have around 6200 completed
 jobs). 

This sort of problem is extremely common in new code especially with 
relatively large volumes of information.

Well, a *lot* has happened in both Bacula and to bat since version 2.1.22.  
Dirk has even put pretty large amount of work into bat since version 2.1.28, 
and if I remember right, I have corrected at least one PostgreSQL crash 
involving bat and several other minor bugs, so I wouldn't be surprised if 
your problem has been resolved.

 I have not had the time to debug this at work because a really 
 important software deadline is only a few weeks away. At home where I
 have 2 clients and a few jobs I have not seen this problem.

The best thing to do would be to update to beta 2.1.28 or better yet to the 
current SVN and test again.  If it fails, please open a bug report.  

Regards,

Kern

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