Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 19:59 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen wrote:
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Hmm ... now I have a:
Volume Use Duration = 10 min
File Retention = 30 min
Job Retention = 2 h
Volume Retention = 30 min
Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4
volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the
list jobs in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my
month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to
restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the
volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how
I can do this ...
OK, the way I see it I have tow possibilities:
* Take backup whit all retention times set to 60 days and (if possible)
import an old volume from tape to the database when I need to restore
files older then 60 days. If possible, how can I import old volumes that
are purged form the database?
* Or I can set all retention times to 99 years and delete old volumes on
diskbackup whit `find /path -type f -name VolumeXXX -mtime + 60 -exec rm
{} \:` in a Run Befor Client option. Then I get a ENORMOUS database
after some time, but I can use bconsole and run delte on all diskbackup
jobs older then 60 days. Or is it possible to delete jobs from the
database in a script, how?
Help please ... any one?
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Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:59:10 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 10:50 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen wrote: On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:36 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:12:19 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 19:52 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before Geir the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific Geir volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files Geir are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the Geir volume). Geir My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup Geir to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. Geir So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a Geir year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The Geir consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something Geir like for all times!?! Geir Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form Geir time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job Geir retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as Geir well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Geir Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one Geir month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Geir Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to Geir 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk volumes to something like 60 days? That will override the longer Job Retention and allow the disk volumes to be recycled. Geir Yes, I have considered that, but is that the way it work? Does Volume Geir Retention override Job Retention? Yes (and the File Retention). The manual describes this in more detail. Hurray ... this solves the problem (maybe I have to buy glasses? Or drik mor coffee?) Geir Hmm ... now I have a: Geir Volume Use Duration = 10 min Geir File Retention = 30 min Geir Job Retention = 2 h Geir Volume Retention = 30 min Geir Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4 Geir volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the Geir list jobs in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my Geir month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to Geir restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the Geir volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how Geir I can do this ... Use a Volume Retention of 12 months for the month-tapes tape volumes and 1 month for the disk volumes. For the year-tape volume, you can set its retention to 99 years if you want to keep it in the pool forever. __Martin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:48 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:59:10 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snip] [/snip] Geir Hmm ... now I have a: Geir Volume Use Duration = 10 min Geir File Retention = 30 min Geir Job Retention = 2 h Geir Volume Retention = 30 min Geir Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4 Geir volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the Geir list jobs in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my Geir month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to Geir restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the Geir volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how Geir I can do this ... Use a Volume Retention of 12 months for the month-tapes tape volumes and 1 month for the disk volumes. For the year-tape volume, you can set its retention to 99 years if you want to keep it in the pool forever. But what about File and Job Retention ... those are set on the Client, and the Client is the same! Or can I put other retention times for file and job in the Scheduler? If I set File and Job Retention to 99 years all, but one be fine ... the MySQL database where all Job info is stored ... Any suggestions? __Martin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Phone Work: +47 69212321 / 2321 Phone Priv: +47 69809853 (o_ +47 99521685 / 3137 //\ ICQ: 48948625 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V_/_ i n u x Registered Linux User # 171776 (http://counter.li.org) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:58:38 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:48 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:59:10 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir [snip] Geir [/snip] Geir Hmm ... now I have a: Geir Volume Use Duration = 10 min Geir File Retention = 30 min Geir Job Retention = 2 h Geir Volume Retention = 30 min Geir Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4 Geir volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the Geir list jobs in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my Geir month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to Geir restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the Geir volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how Geir I can do this ... Use a Volume Retention of 12 months for the month-tapes tape volumes and 1 month for the disk volumes. For the year-tape volume, you can set its retention to 99 years if you want to keep it in the pool forever. Geir But what about File and Job Retention ... those are set on the Client, Geir and the Client is the same! Or can I put other retention times for file Geir and job in the Scheduler? Geir If I set File and Job Retention to 99 years all, but one be fine ... the Geir MySQL database where all Job info is stored ... Any suggestions? No, you can't put different File and Job Retentions in the Scheduler. Setting them to 99 years might be OK. It won't keep all the records for 99 years, because the shortest retention (from Volume, File and Job) controls what is kept for each job. When the Volume Retention is reached for a volume, all the job and file records are removed for that volume, so this will happen every month for the disk volumes and every 12 months for the month-tapes. __Martin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 19:52 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before Geir the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific Geir volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files Geir are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the Geir volume). Geir My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup Geir to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. Geir So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a Geir year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The Geir consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something Geir like for all times!?! Geir Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form Geir time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job Geir retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as Geir well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Geir Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one Geir month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Geir Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to Geir 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk volumes to something like 60 days? That will override the longer Job Retention and allow the disk volumes to be recycled. Yes, I have considered that, but is that the way it work? Does Volume Retention override Job Retention? -- Phone Work: +47 69212321 / 2321 Phone Priv: +47 69809853 (o_ +47 99521685 / 3137 //\ ICQ: 48948625 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V_/_ i n u x Registered Linux User # 171776 (http://counter.li.org) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:36 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:12:19 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 19:52 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before Geir the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific Geir volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files Geir are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the Geir volume). Geir My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup Geir to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. Geir So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a Geir year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The Geir consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something Geir like for all times!?! Geir Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form Geir time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job Geir retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as Geir well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Geir Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one Geir month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Geir Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to Geir 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk volumes to something like 60 days? That will override the longer Job Retention and allow the disk volumes to be recycled. Geir Yes, I have considered that, but is that the way it work? Does Volume Geir Retention override Job Retention? Yes (and the File Retention). The manual describes this in more detail. Hurray ... this solves the problem (maybe I have to buy glasses? Or drik mor coffee?) Note: if you change the Volume Retention in the Pool resource, then you'll need to update the value in the catalog for all the existing volumes in that Pool. THAT I know ... I've done that mistake :( THANKS -- Phone Work: +47 69212321 / 2321 Phone Priv: +47 69809853 (o_ +47 99521685 / 3137 //\ ICQ: 48948625 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V_/_ i n u x Registered Linux User # 171776 (http://counter.li.org) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 10:50 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen wrote: On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:36 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:12:19 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 19:52 +, Martin Simmons wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before Geir the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific Geir volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files Geir are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the Geir volume). Geir My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup Geir to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. Geir So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a Geir year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The Geir consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something Geir like for all times!?! Geir Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form Geir time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job Geir retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as Geir well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Geir Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one Geir month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Geir Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to Geir 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk volumes to something like 60 days? That will override the longer Job Retention and allow the disk volumes to be recycled. Geir Yes, I have considered that, but is that the way it work? Does Volume Geir Retention override Job Retention? Yes (and the File Retention). The manual describes this in more detail. Hurray ... this solves the problem (maybe I have to buy glasses? Or drik mor coffee?) Hmm ... now I have a: Volume Use Duration = 10 min File Retention = 30 min Job Retention = 2 h Volume Retention = 30 min Just for testing ... I run 4 jobs whit 10 min in between, and get 4 volumes. When the last job is finished the first job is purged from the list jobs in bconsole. So fare so good, but how can I use this whit my month-tape setup. If I understood Martin Simmons right it is possible to restore form a volume where the job retention still is'nt run out (the volume is on a tape and set to readonly). HOW ... I can't understand how I can do this ... Note: if you change the Volume Retention in the Pool resource, then you'll need to update the value in the catalog for all the existing volumes in that Pool. THAT I know ... I've done that mistake :( THANKS -- Phone Work: +47 69212321 / 2321 Phone Priv: +47 69809853 (o_ +47 99521685 / 3137 //\ ICQ: 48948625 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V_/_ i n u x Registered Linux User # 171776 (http://counter.li.org) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the volume). My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something like for all times!?! Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? -- Phone Work: +47 69212321 / 2321 Phone Priv: +47 69809853 (o_ +47 99521685 / 3137 //\ ICQ: 48948625 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V_/_ i n u x Registered Linux User # 171776 (http://counter.li.org) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Bacula-users] Purging files and volumes, but NOT jobs
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:30 +0100, Geir Asle Borgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Geir If I have understod it right will the volume be purged/deleted before Geir the retention time for files, jobs and volume stored on the specific Geir volume. And to restore files you need both the volume (where the files Geir are stored) and the job info (stored in the database, not on the Geir volume). Geir My problem is the backupstrategi we use here. We take incremental backup Geir to disk every working day, but once a month we take full backup to tape. Geir So fare, all is good. BUT we have all the 12 month-tapes stored for a Geir year, and we also have a year-tape who is stored for all future. The Geir consequence of this is that I have to set job retention to something Geir like for all times!?! Geir Most restores are done on files lost less the a month ago ... but form Geir time to time I have to go to tape and get older files. But if job Geir retention is set to never expire all files will be stored on disk as Geir well for all time ... and I will run out of diskspace. Geir Is there some things I can do to be able to restore files older then one Geir month (form tape, but not loos the job-info stored in the database)? Geir Will deleting `rm VolumeXX` from the disk and setting job retention to Geir 99 years do the trick? Or will that just FP everything? Have you considered setting the Volume Retention for the disk volumes to something like 60 days? That will override the longer Job Retention and allow the disk volumes to be recycled. __Martin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
