[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-24 Thread Carsten Schurig

Kern Sibbald schrieb:

So, it sounds like your performance problems were resolved by the upgrade if I 
understand correctly.


I just want to see this working more than once... ;-)

By the way, please don't try to run simultaneous jobs in the same FD if you 
use the new VSS feature -- it will not work correctly with more than one job 
at a time.


This is a Windows 2000 server, so I'm not using it as VSS is available 
in XP and 2003, isn't it?


Thanks a lot,
Carsten



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Re: [Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-22 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Friday 22 July 2005 17:18, Carsten Schurig wrote:
> Kern Sibbald schrieb:
> > On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:00, Carsten Schurig wrote:
> >
> > Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.
>
> I did install 1.37.30 and changed the following of the configuration
> addtionally:
>   * switched from sqlite to mysql
>   * use my 2 DDS-3 drives as single ones instead of "emulating"
> a autochanger
>
> Currently on my Windows 2K server two concurrent jobs are running (one
> to drive 1 and the other one to drive 2). Both are running at about
> 1 MB/s (instead of 100 KB/s)!

So, it sounds like your performance problems were resolved by the upgrade if I 
understand correctly.

>
> BTW: I had to use different pools to get the concurrent jobs working. Is
> this ok? 

I may be missing something, but this sounds like a bug.  I'll look at it.

By the way, please don't try to run simultaneous jobs in the same FD if you 
use the new VSS feature -- it will not work correctly with more than one job 
at a time.


> My first try was to do something like that 
>
> Job {
>   Client = win2k
>   FileSet = "win2k 1"
>   Storage = tape1
>   Pool = WeeklyPool
> }
> Job {
>   Client = win2k
>   FileSet = "win2k 2"
>   Storage = tape2
>   Pool = WeeklyPool
> }
>
> In both drives a valid tape was inserted and the pools are defined with
> "Accept Any Volume = yes", but the second job started was always
> complaining:
>
> Cannot find any appendable volumes.
> Please use the "label"  command to create a new Volume for:
>  Storage:  tape2 (/dev/nst1)
>  Media type:   DDS-3
>  Pool: WeeklyPool
>
> So I created a pool WeeklyPool2 and moved tape2 to that pool and changed
> the job accordingly. After this the jobs are really running
> concurrently. Is this behaviour correct?
>
> Cheers,
>   Carsten
>
>
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[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-22 Thread Carsten Schurig

Kern Sibbald schrieb:

On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:00, Carsten Schurig wrote:

Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.


I did install 1.37.30 and changed the following of the configuration 
addtionally:

* switched from sqlite to mysql
* use my 2 DDS-3 drives as single ones instead of "emulating"
  a autochanger

Currently on my Windows 2K server two concurrent jobs are running (one 
to drive 1 and the other one to drive 2). Both are running at about

1 MB/s (instead of 100 KB/s)!

BTW: I had to use different pools to get the concurrent jobs working. Is 
this ok? My first try was to do something like that


Job {
Client = win2k
FileSet = "win2k 1"
Storage = tape1
Pool = WeeklyPool
}
Job {
Client = win2k
FileSet = "win2k 2"
Storage = tape2
Pool = WeeklyPool
}

In both drives a valid tape was inserted and the pools are defined with 
"Accept Any Volume = yes", but the second job started was always 
complaining:


Cannot find any appendable volumes.
Please use the "label"  command to create a new Volume for:
Storage:  tape2 (/dev/nst1)
Media type:   DDS-3
Pool: WeeklyPool

So I created a pool WeeklyPool2 and moved tape2 to that pool and changed 
the job accordingly. After this the jobs are really running 
concurrently. Is this behaviour correct?


Cheers,
Carsten



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Re: [Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:58, Carsten Schurig wrote:
> Kern Sibbald schrieb:
> > Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.
>
> Is the binary windows version available on SF (1.37.22) compatible to
> the current Linux version 1.37.25? The release notes say, that there's a
> new communication protocol so that all clients need to be updated to
> 1.37.25...

I'll be making a new beta release in a day or two.

>
> Cheers,
>   Carsten
>
>
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[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Carsten Schurig

Kern Sibbald schrieb:


Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.


Is the binary windows version available on SF (1.37.22) compatible to 
the current Linux version 1.37.25? The release notes say, that there's a 
new communication protocol so that all clients need to be updated to 
1.37.25...


Cheers,
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[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Carsten Schurig

Kern Sibbald schrieb:

Recently a user reported serious performance problems and stalled backups. The 
bottom line was a NVidia ethernet card with an old driver.  See the Win32 
chapter of the development manual for more details.


I can almost definetly say, that this shouldn't be the problem in my 
case. I'm just copying some 5 GB data to a new Samba share on one of my 
Linux servers. The rate is between 2.5 MB/s and 7 MB/s.


Carsten



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Re: [Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Dominic Marks
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 13:29, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:00, Carsten Schurig wrote:
> > Dominic Marks schrieb:
> > > The problem is that the client system is not sending data fast
> > > enough, so I don't see how spooling will help. I also have this
> > >
> >  > problem, some Windows machines can manange ~1MB/s. One laptop
> > >
> > > in particular running WindowsXP can do no better than 50KB/s when
> >
> > And I don't find any bottleneck on the machine. Just services
> > running, that ran before. Copying files isn't as slow as well, so I
> > don't think it's the filesystem access...
> >
> > Is there any chance, that's there a difference using 1.37.22?
>
> Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.
>
> Recently a user reported serious performance problems and stalled
> backups. The bottom line was a NVidia ethernet card with an old
> driver.  See the Win32 chapter of the development manual for more
> details.
>
> Bottom line: check that your hardware/firmware are up to date as well
> as the network drivers.  If you have an NVidia network card be
> suspicious.

In my case the laptop is a Dell with an Intel Centrino chipset and
is connected via a 54Mbit wireless link. The AP is in the same room
as the laptop so connection strength is permanently excellent and
I can transfer at ~5MB/s from our Samba server in both directions
so I don't think that is it.

Anything else I can try to identify the problem?

Cheers,
-- 
Dominic Marks


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Re: [Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:00, Carsten Schurig wrote:
> Dominic Marks schrieb:
> > The problem is that the client system is not sending data fast
> > enough, so I don't see how spooling will help. I also have this
> >
>  > problem, some Windows machines can manange ~1MB/s. One laptop
> >
> > in particular running WindowsXP can do no better than 50KB/s when
>
> And I don't find any bottleneck on the machine. Just services running,
> that ran before. Copying files isn't as slow as well, so I don't think
> it's the filesystem access...
>
> Is there any chance, that's there a difference using 1.37.22?

Unlikely, but I would be happy if someone tried.

Recently a user reported serious performance problems and stalled backups. The 
bottom line was a NVidia ethernet card with an old driver.  See the Win32 
chapter of the development manual for more details.

Bottom line: check that your hardware/firmware are up to date as well as the 
network drivers.  If you have an NVidia network card be suspicious.

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[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Carsten Schurig

Dominic Marks schrieb:


The problem is that the client system is not sending data fast
enough, so I don't see how spooling will help. I also have this

> problem, some Windows machines can manange ~1MB/s. One laptop
in particular running WindowsXP can do no better than 50KB/s when 


And I don't find any bottleneck on the machine. Just services running, 
that ran before. Copying files isn't as slow as well, so I don't think 
it's the filesystem access...


Is there any chance, that's there a difference using 1.37.22?

Cheers,
 Carsten



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[Bacula-users] Re: performance problem on windows

2005-07-13 Thread Carsten Schurig

Jonas Björklund schrieb:


Have you tried spooling?


Doesn't change anything. And then I wouldn't expect, that

a) the performance of a linux client is 8x better,
b) I got a similar performance from the windows machine before.

I did even test portable mode, but that doesn't change anything either. 
And I just have no idea what to look for: CPU usage of both the windows 
machine and the backup server is low and memory usage reasonable. At 
least not different to the time, when I got the good performance on the 
windows machine...


The sqlite database is just about 65 MB currently, so I don't think 
there's a problem.




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