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2005-09-21 Terurut Topik Yuliana S Dewi
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2005-09-15 Terurut Topik Yohanna Aipassa

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2005-09-14 Terurut Topik Shannon Hartono
Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
Cuek?
Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe.. belum ada yang berhasil 
convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...

 On 9/12/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus autis hehehehe
 coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
 saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada hubungannya antara mmr dan
 autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang
 
 http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
 Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
 http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
 Clinical bottom line
 Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR 
 vaccine.
 
 
 
 
 
 Reference
 H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a
 total population study. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 2005 
 doi:
 10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x
 Background
 A link has been postulated between the specific use of the triple MMR
 vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though very considerable 
 research
 has shown there to be no connection, some people continue to believe in 
 such
 a link and they propose use of single vaccines instead. In Japan, MMR
 vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme was terminated in 1993 
 and
 only single vaccines used thereafter.
 
 The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a real-world experiment of
 replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines because of problems with
 production. If the proponents of a link between MMR and autism are 
 correct,
 the result should be that cases of autism fall after withdrawal of MMR.
 
 Study
 The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with a population of about
 300,000, and which was stable, or reflected changes typical for Japanese
 society as a whole, over the period of the study. The population was 
 served
 by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation Centre) that included a
 developmental psychiatry unit with early intervention services for
 developmental disorders. There was in place an early detection and
 intervention system that included specific routine checkups at four, 18 
 and
 36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria. At 18 months, about 90%
 of children participated in the programme, but those who did not, or those
 who were missed by the programme, could be referred by nurseries, 
 paediatric
 clinics, or other services. These services began in 1987, two years before
 introduction of MMR.
 
 Not only did the study have specific diagnostic criteria, therefore, but
 also ensured a complete coverage of a defined population, consistently 
 over
 a period covering the introduction and withdrawal of the triple MMR 
 vaccine.
 
 Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed up to age seven years, 
 and
 results presented for all autistic spectrum disorders, for autism, and for
 autism associated with regression. The cumulative incidence per 10,000
 children for each diagnosis was calculated for each year.
 
 Results
 Over the whole period, and with full follow up to age seven years in birth
 cohorts from 1988 to 1996, 278 children developed autistic spectrum
 disorder, 158 autism, and 120 other autistic spectrum conditions. Of those
 with autism, 60 had definite regression and another 12 probable regression
 according to defined tests.
 
 In the 1988 birth cohort, 70% of children had the MMR triple vaccine,
 falling to 1.8% in the 1992 birth cohort. Thereafter no children had the 
 MMR
 triple vaccine (Figure 1).
 
 Figure 1: Autistic conditions in birth cohorts to age seven years, and MMR
 vaccination rate in Japan: autism, all autistic spectrum disorders (ASD),
 and autism with regression
 
 The incidence of all autistic spectrum disorders, and of autism, continued
 to rise after MMR vaccine was discontinued. The incidence of autism was
 higher in children born after 1992 who were not vaccinated with MMR than 
 in
 children born before 1992 who were vaccinated. The incidence of autism
 associated with regression was the same during the use of MMR and after it
 was discontinued.
 
 The increase of autistic spectrum disorders was evident in children with
 higher IQ.
 
 Comment
 The increase in autism and autistic spectrum disorders in this part of
 Yokohama displays the same increase over time seen in other parts of the
 world. Here, though, the increase occurred even when the MMR vaccine was
 withdrawn. This destroys any possible causative link between use of the
 vaccine and autism.
 
 Perhaps the most important features of the study were that it
 comprehensively covered a population, and that the population was served 
 by
 a special service testing children for developmental; disorders and using
 standard methods over the whole period. The quality and validity of the
 study is superlative, and the size good.
 
 Whatever causes autism, it is not the MMR vaccine.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Shannon 

Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON

2005-09-14 Terurut Topik intan dima
mugnkin tunggu sampai anak kena penyakit campak/gondongan/campak jerman baru 
convince :P

semua kembali ke orangtua masing2 kok mbak :)
kalao dari dirinya nggak yakin, mo dibeberin ratusan macem artikel ya tetep 
aja ngga yakin hehehehe


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From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON


Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
Cuek?
Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe.. belum ada yang berhasil
convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...

On 9/12/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus autis hehehehe
coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada hubungannya antara mmr dan
autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang

http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
Clinical bottom line
Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR
vaccine.





Reference
H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a
total population study. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 2005
doi:
10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x
Background
A link has been postulated between the specific use of the triple MMR
vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though very considerable
research
has shown there to be no connection, some people continue to believe in
such
a link and they propose use of single vaccines instead. In Japan, MMR
vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme was terminated in 1993
and
only single vaccines used thereafter.

The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a real-world experiment of
replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines because of problems with
production. If the proponents of a link between MMR and autism are
correct,
the result should be that cases of autism fall after withdrawal of MMR.

Study
The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with a population of about
300,000, and which was stable, or reflected changes typical for Japanese
society as a whole, over the period of the study. The population was
served
by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation Centre) that included a
developmental psychiatry unit with early intervention services for
developmental disorders. There was in place an early detection and
intervention system that included specific routine checkups at four, 18
and
36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria. At 18 months, about 90%
of children participated in the programme, but those who did not, or those
who were missed by the programme, could be referred by nurseries,
paediatric
clinics, or other services. These services began in 1987, two years before
introduction of MMR.

Not only did the study have specific diagnostic criteria, therefore, but
also ensured a complete coverage of a defined population, consistently
over
a period covering the introduction and withdrawal of the triple MMR
vaccine.

Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed up to age seven years,
and
results presented for all autistic spectrum disorders, for autism, and for
autism associated with regression. The cumulative incidence per 10,000
children for each diagnosis was calculated for each year.

Results
Over the whole period, and with full follow up to age seven years in birth
cohorts from 1988 to 1996, 278 children developed autistic spectrum
disorder, 158 autism, and 120 other autistic spectrum conditions. Of those
with autism, 60 had definite regression and another 12 probable regression
according to defined tests.

In the 1988 birth cohort, 70% of children had the MMR triple vaccine,
falling to 1.8% in the 1992 birth cohort. Thereafter no children had the
MMR
triple vaccine (Figure 1).

Figure 1: Autistic conditions in birth cohorts to age seven years, and MMR
vaccination rate in Japan: autism, all autistic spectrum disorders (ASD),
and autism with regression

The incidence of all autistic spectrum disorders, and of autism, continued
to rise after MMR vaccine was discontinued. The incidence of autism was
higher in children born after 1992 who were not vaccinated with MMR than
in
children born before 1992 who were vaccinated. The incidence of autism
associated with regression was the same during the use of MMR and after it
was discontinued.

The increase of autistic spectrum disorders was evident in children with
higher IQ.

Comment
The increase in autism and autistic spectrum disorders in this part of
Yokohama displays the same increase over time seen in other parts of the
world. Here, though, the increase occurred even when the MMR vaccine was
withdrawn. This destroys any possible causative link between use of the
vaccine and autism.

Perhaps the most important features of the study were that it
comprehensively covered a population

Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON

2005-09-14 Terurut Topik Lily Christiani
hehheehmbaca email mbak intan...jadi ketawa...isinya...keras..tapi 
mengandung kebenaran :)
mungkin untuk mbak shanon yg bingung...bisa ambil jalan tengah
kalo di dokter anak saya...dia biasa menganjurkan untuk ortu yg takut kena 
autis gara2 mmr...
dia minta kita memberi mmr...jika anak kita sdh lancar bicara (jadi ga ada 
alasan utk menyalahkan vaksin mmr-nya)..anak saya yg pertama Tiffany, mmr 
diusia 2 thn... dan sampai skrg ok-2 aja tuh. 
ok ..segitu sharing dari saya, semoga membantu
regards,
Lily Christiani
MamanyaTiffanyVincent

 On 9/15/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 mugnkin tunggu sampai anak kena penyakit campak/gondongan/campak jerman 
 baru
 convince :P
 semua kembali ke orangtua masing2 kok mbak :)
 kalao dari dirinya nggak yakin, mo dibeberin ratusan macem artikel ya 
 tetep
 aja ngga yakin hehehehe
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON
 
 
 Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
 Cuek?
 Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe.. belum ada yang berhasil
 convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...
 
 On 9/12/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus autis hehehehe
  coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
  saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada hubungannya antara mmr dan
  autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang
 
  http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
  Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
  http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
  Clinical bottom line
  Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR
  vaccine.
 
 
 
  
 
 
  Reference
  H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a
  total population study. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 2005
  doi:
  10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x
  Background
  A link has been postulated between the specific use of the triple MMR
  vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though very considerable
  research
  has shown there to be no connection, some people continue to believe in
  such
  a link and they propose use of single vaccines instead. In Japan, MMR
  vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme was terminated in 1993
  and
  only single vaccines used thereafter.
 
  The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a real-world experiment of
  replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines because of problems 
 with
  production. If the proponents of a link between MMR and autism are
  correct,
  the result should be that cases of autism fall after withdrawal of MMR.
 
  Study
  The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with a population of about
  300,000, and which was stable, or reflected changes typical for Japanese
  society as a whole, over the period of the study. The population was
  served
  by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation Centre) that included a
  developmental psychiatry unit with early intervention services for
  developmental disorders. There was in place an early detection and
  intervention system that included specific routine checkups at four, 18
  and
  36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria. At 18 months, about 
 90%
  of children participated in the programme, but those who did not, or 
 those
  who were missed by the programme, could be referred by nurseries,
  paediatric
  clinics, or other services. These services began in 1987, two years 
 before
  introduction of MMR.
 
  Not only did the study have specific diagnostic criteria, therefore, but
  also ensured a complete coverage of a defined population, consistently
  over
  a period covering the introduction and withdrawal of the triple MMR
  vaccine.
 
  Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed up to age seven years,
  and
  results presented for all autistic spectrum disorders, for autism, and 
 for
  autism associated with regression. The cumulative incidence per 10,000
  children for each diagnosis was calculated for each year.
 
  Results
  Over the whole period, and with full follow up to age seven years in 
 birth
  cohorts from 1988 to 1996, 278 children developed autistic spectrum
  disorder, 158 autism, and 120 other autistic spectrum conditions. Of 
 those
  with autism, 60 had definite regression and another 12 probable 
 regression
  according to defined tests.
 
  In the 1988 birth cohort, 70% of children had the MMR triple vaccine,
  falling to 1.8% in the 1992 birth cohort. Thereafter no children had the
  MMR
  triple vaccine (Figure 1).
 
  Figure 1: Autistic conditions in birth cohorts to age seven years, and 
 MMR
  vaccination rate in Japan: autism, all autistic spectrum disorders 
 (ASD),
  and autism with regression
 
  The incidence of all autistic spectrum disorders, and of autism, 
 continued
  to rise after MMR vaccine

RE: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON

2005-09-14 Terurut Topik Widyawati
Sama, dsa ku di RSPI juga menganjurkan setelah anak lancer berbicara...

-Original Message-
From: Lily Christiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:19 AM
To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON

hehheehmbaca email mbak intan...jadi ketawa...isinya...keras..tapi 
mengandung kebenaran :)
mungkin untuk mbak shanon yg bingung...bisa ambil jalan tengah
kalo di dokter anak saya...dia biasa menganjurkan untuk ortu yg takut
kena 
autis gara2 mmr...
dia minta kita memberi mmr...jika anak kita sdh lancar bicara (jadi ga
ada 
alasan utk menyalahkan vaksin mmr-nya)..anak saya yg pertama Tiffany,
mmr 
diusia 2 thn... dan sampai skrg ok-2 aja tuh. 
ok ..segitu sharing dari saya, semoga membantu
regards,
Lily Christiani
MamanyaTiffanyVincent

 On 9/15/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 mugnkin tunggu sampai anak kena penyakit campak/gondongan/campak
jerman 
 baru
 convince :P
 semua kembali ke orangtua masing2 kok mbak :)
 kalao dari dirinya nggak yakin, mo dibeberin ratusan macem artikel ya 
 tetep
 aja ngga yakin hehehehe
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON
 
 
 Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
 Cuek?
 Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe.. belum ada yang
berhasil
 convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...
 
 On 9/12/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus autis hehehehe
  coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
  saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada hubungannya antara mmr
dan
  autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang
 
  http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
  Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
  http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
  Clinical bottom line
  Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR
  vaccine.
 
 
 
  



 
  Reference
  H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of
autism: a
  total population study. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry
2005
  doi:
  10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x
  Background
  A link has been postulated between the specific use of the triple
MMR
  vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though very considerable
  research
  has shown there to be no connection, some people continue to believe
in
  such
  a link and they propose use of single vaccines instead. In Japan,
MMR
  vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme was terminated in
1993
  and
  only single vaccines used thereafter.
 
  The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a real-world
experiment of
  replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines because of
problems 
 with
  production. If the proponents of a link between MMR and autism are
  correct,
  the result should be that cases of autism fall after withdrawal of
MMR.
 
  Study
  The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with a population of
about
  300,000, and which was stable, or reflected changes typical for
Japanese
  society as a whole, over the period of the study. The population was
  served
  by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation Centre) that included a
  developmental psychiatry unit with early intervention services for
  developmental disorders. There was in place an early detection and
  intervention system that included specific routine checkups at four,
18
  and
  36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria. At 18 months,
about 
 90%
  of children participated in the programme, but those who did not, or

 those
  who were missed by the programme, could be referred by nurseries,
  paediatric
  clinics, or other services. These services began in 1987, two years 
 before
  introduction of MMR.
 
  Not only did the study have specific diagnostic criteria, therefore,
but
  also ensured a complete coverage of a defined population,
consistently
  over
  a period covering the introduction and withdrawal of the triple MMR
  vaccine.
 
  Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed up to age seven
years,
  and
  results presented for all autistic spectrum disorders, for autism,
and 
 for
  autism associated with regression. The cumulative incidence per
10,000
  children for each diagnosis was calculated for each year.
 
  Results
  Over the whole period, and with full follow up to age seven years in

 birth
  cohorts from 1988 to 1996, 278 children developed autistic spectrum
  disorder, 158 autism, and 120 other autistic spectrum conditions. Of

 those
  with autism, 60 had definite regression and another 12 probable 
 regression
  according to defined tests.
 
  In the 1988 birth cohort, 70% of children had the MMR triple
vaccine,
  falling to 1.8% in the 1992 birth cohort. Thereafter no children had
the
  MMR
  triple vaccine (Figure 1).
 
  Figure 1

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2005-09-14 Terurut Topik Dini Febrina
Mbak Shannon yang baik budi dan tidak sombong, jagoan lagi pula pintar..

Kalau pemikiranku sebagai orang awam (bukan dokter sih) waktu imunisasi MMR
Faris:
1. Kalo nggak di MMR terus kena gondongan, terus virusnya sampai ke saluran
reproduksinyakasihan Farisnya nanti bisa mandulnanti gw nggak punya
cucu dari Faris dong :-D (jg akibat dari penyakit lainnya)
2. Kena Autis? Insya Allah Nggak ya...(jangan sampai deh..) tapi yg aku
baca...seandainya seorang anak terdeteksi autis pada usia
3thnkemungkinan sembuhnya mencapai 90%...dibanding terdeteksi autis
usia 3thn. Sampai sekarang saya berpendapat kalau autis tdk sama dgn idiot.
Banyak anak autis yg sukses, cenderung jenius malah. Jadi pemikiran awam
saya sih mending Faris segera di imunisasi MMR
3. Nunggu sampai lancar bicara? Indikasi lancarnya apa ya? bisa ngoceh
tepat, jelas, benar?.Berarti nanti kalau udah usia remaja dong (Bapaknya
Faris aja sampe sekarang males ngomong kok he..he...beda sama saya).
Komunikasi batita kan nggak cuma ditunjukaan oleh banyaknya kata.
4. Sepertinya family dekat tdk ada yg autis, jadi insya allah Faris tdk ada
bakat autis. Kalau nggak salah, beberapa org yg terdeteksi autis sebagian
besar karena memang sudah ada bakat autis didlm dirinya.  (cmiiw)

Dini

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From: intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON


 mugnkin tunggu sampai anak kena penyakit campak/gondongan/campak jerman
baru
 convince :P
 semua kembali ke orangtua masing2 kok mbak :)
 kalao dari dirinya nggak yakin, mo dibeberin ratusan macem artikel ya
tetep
 aja ngga yakin hehehehe

 - Original Message - 
 From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON


 Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
 Cuek?
 Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe.. belum ada yang berhasil
 convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...




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2005-09-14 Terurut Topik Mama Kavindra
He..he..he… kok banyak yg DSAnya sama DSA Kavin aku 
yg lama yah.. takut ngasih MMR gara2 isu bikin
autisme…

Setelah cari info DSA yg ok n mau kasih MMR di tmpku
Semarang…..Puji Tuhan aku udah nemu DSA yg baru... n
sesuai dg hasil konsultasi dg DSA tsb rencananya udah 
mo vaksin MMR buat Kavin alternatifnya:
- ntar skalian pas Kavin 18 bln (bulan Oktober)
simultan bareng ulangan tetrachib  (DPT-HiB) krn di
DSAnya vaksin MMRnya kosong bln ini n bln ini kan
jatahnya polio masal pas Pin  27 Sept.. 
- Kalo vaksin MMRnya udah ada bln ini  mo dikasih
MMRnya bareng ma polio so gak perlu ikutan PIN 27 Sept
ntar
Kayanya sih aku pilih yg simultan aja nih bln Oktober
ini… biar sekalian ke DSAnya… polionya pas PIN aja
deh..

But sebaiknya sih MMr diberikan 6 bln setelah campak

Kalo about autisme nih.. buat ngeyakinin Mbak Shanon..
autisme itu sampe sekarang blm ditemukan secara pasti
penyebabnya… but sbgan besar tjd krn ada sesuatu hal
yg emang terganggu saat baby di kandungan… or krn
emang ada bawaan aurisme secara genetic…
Kalo MMRnya nunggu bisa ngomong or lancar ngoceh…
standartnya apa nih.. kan perkembangan bicara anak
beda2 ada yg 2 tahun yg udah crewet bgt but ada yg blm
lancar ngomong….

Trus kalo gak dikasih MMR.. ntar kalo anaknya
gondongan gimana??? Ati2 lho ma gondongan.. bisa
berakibat mengganggu hormin reproduksi… kan gawat
nih..

Kalo aku sih prinsipmya mencegah… drpd mengobati so,
salah satunya pake imunisasi walo imunasasi itu gak
menjamin 100% anak tertular penyakit tertentu… but
se-nggaknya aku ngerasa uda bisa me-ngamankan anakku
dr penyakit tertentu setelah dapat imunisasi…

Ok, moga2 Mbak Shanon n parents lain bisa lebih yakin
yah…  but kembali lagi ke parents masing2 deh...

Uci mamaKavin


 - Original Message - 
 From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak
 SHANNON
 
 
 Jadi MMR aja nih ya?
 Cuek?
 Aduh kenapa ya, kok masih rada ngeri... hehehe..
 belum ada yang berhasil
 convince saya nih... :- Gimana dong...
 
  On 9/12/05, intan dima [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus
 autis hehehehe
  coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
  saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada
 hubungannya antara mmr dan
  autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang
 
  http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
  Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
 

http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
  Clinical bottom line
  Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the
 withdrawal of MMR
  vaccine.
 
 
 
 


 
  Reference
  H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the
 incidence of autism: a
  total population study. Journal of Child
 Psychology and Psychiatry 2005
  doi:
  10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x
  Background
  A link has been postulated between the specific
 use of the triple MMR
  vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though
 very considerable
  research
  has shown there to be no connection, some people
 continue to believe in
  such
  a link and they propose use of single vaccines
 instead. In Japan, MMR
  vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme
 was terminated in 1993
  and
  only single vaccines used thereafter.
 
  The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a
 real-world experiment of
  replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines
 because of problems with
  production. If the proponents of a link between
 MMR and autism are
  correct,
  the result should be that cases of autism fall
 after withdrawal of MMR.
 
  Study
  The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with
 a population of about
  300,000, and which was stable, or reflected
 changes typical for Japanese
  society as a whole, over the period of the study.
 The population was
  served
  by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation
 Centre) that included a
  developmental psychiatry unit with early
 intervention services for
  developmental disorders. There was in place an
 early detection and
  intervention system that included specific routine
 checkups at four, 18
  and
  36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria.
 At 18 months, about 90%
  of children participated in the programme, but
 those who did not, or those
  who were missed by the programme, could be
 referred by nurseries,
  paediatric
  clinics, or other services. These services began
 in 1987, two years before
  introduction of MMR.
 
  Not only did the study have specific diagnostic
 criteria, therefore, but
  also ensured a complete coverage of a defined
 population, consistently
  over
  a period covering the introduction and withdrawal
 of the triple MMR
  vaccine.
 
  Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed
 up to age seven years,
  and
  results presented for all autistic spectrum
 disorders, for autism, and for
  autism associated with regression. The cumulative

[balita-anda] autisme v MMR TO mbak SHANNON

2005-09-11 Terurut Topik intan dima

infonya salah mbak jepang buanyakkk kasus autis hehehehe
coba silahkan dibaca dibawah ini...
saya juga ada beberapa artikel ttg tidak ada hubungannya antara mmr dan 
autisme, tapi dalam bhs jepang


http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74i=928
Autism in the absence of MMR vaccine
http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Vaccines/noMMR.html
Clinical bottom line
Autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR vaccine.




Reference
H Honda et al. No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a 
total population study. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 2005 doi: 
10./j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x

Background
A link has been postulated between the specific use of the triple MMR 
vaccine and the rise of childhood autism. Though very considerable research 
has shown there to be no connection, some people continue to believe in such 
a link and they propose use of single vaccines instead. In Japan, MMR 
vaccine was introduced in 1989, but the programme was terminated in 1993 and 
only single vaccines used thereafter.


The experience of Japan therefore constitutes a real-world experiment of 
replacing triple MMR vaccine with single vaccines because of problems with 
production. If the proponents of a link between MMR and autism are correct, 
the result should be that cases of autism fall after withdrawal of MMR.


Study
The study was conducted in a part of Yokohama with a population of about 
300,000, and which was stable, or reflected changes typical for Japanese 
society as a whole, over the period of the study. The population was served 
by a special centre (Yokohama Rehabilitation Centre) that included a 
developmental psychiatry unit with early intervention services for 
developmental disorders. There was in place an early detection and 
intervention system that included specific routine checkups at four, 18 and 
36 months, working to defined diagnostic criteria. At 18 months, about 90% 
of children participated in the programme, but those who did not, or those 
who were missed by the programme, could be referred by nurseries, paediatric 
clinics, or other services. These services began in 1987, two years before 
introduction of MMR.


Not only did the study have specific diagnostic criteria, therefore, but 
also ensured a complete coverage of a defined population, consistently over 
a period covering the introduction and withdrawal of the triple MMR vaccine.


Each birth cohort from 1988 to 1996 was followed up to age seven years, and 
results presented for all autistic spectrum disorders, for autism, and for 
autism associated with regression. The cumulative incidence per 10,000 
children for each diagnosis was calculated for each year.


Results
Over the whole period, and with full follow up to age seven years in birth 
cohorts from 1988 to 1996, 278 children developed autistic spectrum 
disorder, 158 autism, and 120 other autistic spectrum conditions. Of those 
with autism, 60 had definite regression and another 12 probable regression 
according to defined tests.


In the 1988 birth cohort, 70% of children had the MMR triple vaccine, 
falling to 1.8% in the 1992 birth cohort. Thereafter no children had the MMR 
triple vaccine (Figure 1).


Figure 1: Autistic conditions in birth cohorts to age seven years, and MMR 
vaccination rate in Japan: autism, all autistic spectrum disorders (ASD), 
and autism with regression


The incidence of all autistic spectrum disorders, and of autism, continued 
to rise after MMR vaccine was discontinued. The incidence of autism was 
higher in children born after 1992 who were not vaccinated with MMR than in 
children born before 1992 who were vaccinated. The incidence of autism 
associated with regression was the same during the use of MMR and after it 
was discontinued.


The increase of autistic spectrum disorders was evident in children with 
higher IQ.


Comment
The increase in autism and autistic spectrum disorders in this part of 
Yokohama displays the same increase over time seen in other parts of the 
world. Here, though, the increase occurred even when the MMR vaccine was 
withdrawn. This destroys any possible causative link between use of the 
vaccine and autism.


Perhaps the most important features of the study were that it 
comprehensively covered a population, and that the population was served by 
a special service testing children for developmental; disorders and using 
standard methods over the whole period. The quality and validity of the 
study is superlative, and the size good.


Whatever causes autism, it is not the MMR vaccine.



- Original Message - 
From: Shannon Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: balita-anda@balita-anda.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [balita-anda] Fw: [sehat] Re: Menyikapi Kontroversi Autisme dan 
Imunisasi MMR



Mbak Intan,
Ada teman yang mengatakan bahwa di Jepang itu MMR