Re: [basex-talk] Dr. Mike Kay's proposals for XPath and XQuery 4.0

2020-11-16 Thread Christian Grün
Hi Marco,

We already spent too much time in the HTTP-Client 2 Specification
(given its limited scope and complexity), so is definitely something
that we should finalize and realize. My current plan is to align this
with the switch to Java 11, which comes with much better built-in
support for HTTP requests. As you already guessed, it would be
something that would remain in the EXPath scope.

Regarding YAML, there was not much feedback on Slack when I mentioned
it. And after I had browsed through the full specification, I decided
there may be better things to do in my free time. Maybe it’ll be
better to watch out for existing libraries and get them plugged into
BaseX.

Cheers,
Christian



On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 4:22 PM Marco Lettere  wrote:
>
> Couple of things directly out of my mind even if more library than core
> language oriented are YAML support and the new proposal for convenient
> HTTP client functions. I remember a proposal by you, Christian, together
> with Adam maybe?
>
> M.
>
> On 16/11/20 15:30, Loren Cahlander wrote:
> > Please make sure to keep me in the loop.  I will need to keep xqDoc up to 
> > date.
> >
> >> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Christian Grün  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't know how many implementers we have on this list, outside of 
> >>> Christian and co., but thought you all might find it interesting.
> >> Everyone: raise your hands and get involved ;)
> >>
> >> Michael’s initiative to push for a new version of XQuery, XPath & co.
> >> is very promising indeed. If you are interested in sharing your ideas
> >> which features you would like to see in a new version: Now may still
> >> be a good time for it!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> PS I found this announcement on the XML.com Slack channel, fyi.
> >>>
> >>> [1] Mike Kay's post from Slack:
> >>> I've been working on fleshing out my ideas for XSLT/XPath 4.0, based on 
> >>> my XML Prague paper earlier this year. I'm hoping to gather together a 
> >>> community group of some kind to take this forward; meanwhile I've 
> >>> published a very preliminary set of drafts:
> >>> XSLT: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XT/Overview-diff.html
> >>> F: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/FO/Overview-diff.html
> >>> XPath: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XP/xpath-40-diff.html
> >>> XQuery: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XQ/xquery-40-diff.html
> >>> Preparing for the rotten tomatoes: let me know what you think and whether 
> >>> you want to participate.
> >>> NOTE: each document has a summary of changes at the end. It's probably 
> >>> best to go there first.
>
>


Re: [basex-talk] Dr. Mike Kay's proposals for XPath and XQuery 4.0

2020-11-16 Thread Marco Lettere
Couple of things directly out of my mind even if more library than core 
language oriented are YAML support and the new proposal for convenient 
HTTP client functions. I remember a proposal by you, Christian, together 
with Adam maybe?


M.

On 16/11/20 15:30, Loren Cahlander wrote:

Please make sure to keep me in the loop.  I will need to keep xqDoc up to date.


On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Christian Grün  wrote:


I don't know how many implementers we have on this list, outside of Christian 
and co., but thought you all might find it interesting.

Everyone: raise your hands and get involved ;)

Michael’s initiative to push for a new version of XQuery, XPath & co.
is very promising indeed. If you are interested in sharing your ideas
which features you would like to see in a new version: Now may still
be a good time for it!




PS I found this announcement on the XML.com Slack channel, fyi.

[1] Mike Kay's post from Slack:
I've been working on fleshing out my ideas for XSLT/XPath 4.0, based on my XML 
Prague paper earlier this year. I'm hoping to gather together a community group 
of some kind to take this forward; meanwhile I've published a very preliminary 
set of drafts:
XSLT: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XT/Overview-diff.html
F: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/FO/Overview-diff.html
XPath: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XP/xpath-40-diff.html
XQuery: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XQ/xquery-40-diff.html
Preparing for the rotten tomatoes: let me know what you think and whether you 
want to participate.
NOTE: each document has a summary of changes at the end. It's probably best to 
go there first.





Re: [basex-talk] Dr. Mike Kay's proposals for XPath and XQuery 4.0

2020-11-16 Thread Loren Cahlander
Please make sure to keep me in the loop.  I will need to keep xqDoc up to date.

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Christian Grün  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know how many implementers we have on this list, outside of 
>> Christian and co., but thought you all might find it interesting.
> 
> Everyone: raise your hands and get involved ;)
> 
> Michael’s initiative to push for a new version of XQuery, XPath & co.
> is very promising indeed. If you are interested in sharing your ideas
> which features you would like to see in a new version: Now may still
> be a good time for it!
> 
> 
> 
>> PS I found this announcement on the XML.com Slack channel, fyi.
>> 
>> [1] Mike Kay's post from Slack:
>> I've been working on fleshing out my ideas for XSLT/XPath 4.0, based on my 
>> XML Prague paper earlier this year. I'm hoping to gather together a 
>> community group of some kind to take this forward; meanwhile I've published 
>> a very preliminary set of drafts:
>> XSLT: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XT/Overview-diff.html
>> F: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/FO/Overview-diff.html
>> XPath: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XP/xpath-40-diff.html
>> XQuery: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XQ/xquery-40-diff.html
>> Preparing for the rotten tomatoes: let me know what you think and whether 
>> you want to participate.
>> NOTE: each document has a summary of changes at the end. It's probably best 
>> to go there first.



Re: [basex-talk] Dr. Mike Kay's proposals for XPath and XQuery 4.0

2020-11-16 Thread Christian Grün
> I don't know how many implementers we have on this list, outside of Christian 
> and co., but thought you all might find it interesting.

Everyone: raise your hands and get involved ;)

Michael’s initiative to push for a new version of XQuery, XPath & co.
is very promising indeed. If you are interested in sharing your ideas
which features you would like to see in a new version: Now may still
be a good time for it!



> PS I found this announcement on the XML.com Slack channel, fyi.
>
> [1] Mike Kay's post from Slack:
> I've been working on fleshing out my ideas for XSLT/XPath 4.0, based on my 
> XML Prague paper earlier this year. I'm hoping to gather together a community 
> group of some kind to take this forward; meanwhile I've published a very 
> preliminary set of drafts:
> XSLT: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XT/Overview-diff.html
> F: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/FO/Overview-diff.html
> XPath: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XP/xpath-40-diff.html
> XQuery: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XQ/xquery-40-diff.html
> Preparing for the rotten tomatoes: let me know what you think and whether you 
> want to participate.
> NOTE: each document has a summary of changes at the end. It's probably best 
> to go there first.


[basex-talk] Dr. Mike Kay's proposals for XPath and XQuery 4.0

2020-11-14 Thread Bridger Dyson-Smith
Hi all -

I imagine that Dr. Kay has posted about this in multiple places, but I
don't know if he's posting on the BaseX list much. He shared the following
links with his thoughts on XPath, XSLT, XQuery, and F version 4.0 [1] - I
don't know how many implementers we have on this list, outside of Christian
and co., but thought you all might find it interesting.

Hope everyone is having a lovely day.
Best,
Bridger

PS I found this announcement on the XML.com Slack channel, fyi.

[1] Mike Kay's post from Slack:
I've been working on fleshing out my ideas for XSLT/XPath 4.0, based on my
XML Prague paper earlier this year. I'm hoping to gather together a
community group of some kind to take this forward; meanwhile I've published
a very preliminary set of drafts:
XSLT: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XT/Overview-diff.html
F: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/FO/Overview-diff.html
XPath: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XP/xpath-40-diff.html
XQuery: https://www.saxonica.com/qt4specs/XQ/xquery-40-diff.html
Preparing for the rotten tomatoes: let me know what you think and whether
you want to participate.
NOTE: each document has a summary of changes at the end. It's probably best
to go there first.