Re: BBDB development shifted from sourceforge to savannah

2012-04-12 Thread Sriram ET.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote:

 On Tue Apr 10 2012 SourceForge.net Support wrote:
  There's a link at the top of the project summary page indicating the
  new location now.
 
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbdb/


Dear Sourceforge maintainers,

Thanks for putting in the link on that page. We have noticed that the
following sourceforge page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ comes up highly on
searches for BBDB on popular search engines, and is the first point of call
for users looking for information on BBDB.

Could we trouble you one more time, and request you to insert the same link
that you inserted earlier, on the http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/  as well?

thank you,
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Re: BBDB development shifted from sourceforge to savannah

2012-04-11 Thread Roland Winkler
On Wed Apr 11 2012 Sriram ET. wrote:
 Roland, Just fyi - the first result on a Google Search is this
 page:  http:// bbdb.sourceforge.net/ Do you think it makes sense
 to request that to be taken down?

I do not know how google comes up with its ranking. Yet I do not
believe it would make sense to take down the old site. I expect this
would disagree with sourceforge's general policies -- and I consider
it useful that people can rely on sourceforge in this context.
If a project suddenly disappears from its old place, this doesn't
explain anything to anybody what has happened.

If someone ignores the hint on sourceforge that BBDB development has
shifted, we cannot help him or her beyond that.

Roland

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Re: BBDB development shifted from sourceforge to savannah

2012-04-11 Thread Sriram ET.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote:


 On Wed Apr 11 2012 Sriram ET. wrote:
  Roland, Just fyi - the first result on a Google Search is this
  page:  http:// bbdb.sourceforge.net/ Do you think it makes sense
  to request that to be taken down?

 I do not know how google comes up with its ranking. Yet I do not
 believe it would make sense to take down the old site. I expect this
 would disagree with sourceforge's general policies -- and I consider
 it useful that people can rely on sourceforge in this context.
 If a project suddenly disappears from its old place, this doesn't
 explain anything to anybody what has happened.

 If someone ignores the hint on sourceforge that BBDB development has
 shifted, we cannot help him or her beyond that.


We should make it easy for people to find relevant and recent information
about BBDB. The page that the sourceforge maintainers have edited with a
link to savanah (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbdb/) does not appear on
the first page of a Google or a Bing search for BBDB.  You are ignoring the
fact that http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ is the main page in the mind of
anyone who tries to find BBDB. They will not be ignoring your hint. There
is no way for them to even see it.

From the point of view of a new user, what we have just accomplished,
amounts to nothing.

We do not have to take down the old site. I was only trying to get you to
insert the same hint on the old site as well.

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Re: BBDB development shifted from sourceforge to savannah

2012-04-11 Thread Roland Winkler
On Wed Apr 11 2012 Sriram ET. wrote:
 We should make it easy for people to find relevant and recent
 information about BBDB. The page that the sourceforge maintainers
 have edited with a link to savanah
 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbdb/) does not appear on the
 first page of a Google or a Bing search for BBDB.  You are
 ignoring the fact that http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ is the main
 page in the mind of anyone who tries to find BBDB. They will not
 be ignoring your hint. There is no way for them to even see it. 
 
 From the point of view of a new user, what we have just
 accomplished, amounts to nothing.
 
 We do not have to take down the old site. I was only trying to get
 you to insert the same hint on the old site as well.

Would you mind to contact the sourceforge maintainers and explain
your point? I do not have strong feelings here in any particular
direction.

Thanks,

Roland

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Re: BBDB development shifted from sourceforge to savannah

2012-04-10 Thread Sriram ET.
Roland, Just fyi - the first result on a Google Search is this page:
http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ Do you think it makes sense to request that to
be taken down?

-Sriram

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote:

 On Tue Apr 10 2012 SourceForge.net Support wrote:
  There's a link at the top of the project summary page indicating the
  new location now.
 
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bbdb/

 Thanks a lot!

 Roland


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