Re: a better auto completion? :)

[stratboy]

I agree. Also, the factory clippings should be versioned, so one can
see if he has the last version.

On 3 Dic, 21:37, RobS  wrote:
> On Dec 3, 1:46 pm, Rich Siegel  wrote:
>
> > The subsystem that makes that decision looks at the existing
> > contents of your various Application Support/BBEdit/ subfolders,
> > and if they line up, the subfolder gets updated. So if your
> > Clippings have been modified, it'll skip the update.
>
> Computers being computers, they'd be very useful at a task such as
> updating. ;-)
>
> For example, the update software could not just enquire as to whether
> or not changes were made in one of the Clippings sub-folders and then
> come to a full stop if any are found. Rather it could drill down to
> the file level and update the sub-folders on a file by file basis,
> adding any new folders as required. It might even pop up a useful
> comment to the affect that it found a file which it would love to
> update but I had modified it and what would I like to do.
>
> BBEdit users are the most likely kind of users to modify things like
> the Clippings folder. I would guess that the majority of users did not
> get the current Clippings folder because their old one contained
> modified files. The installer should at least make an effort to notify
> them of that during the update.
>
> Rob

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[stratboy]

To the devs: if the factory clippings are undated, well, they should
really be versioned some way.

On 3 Dic, 17:27, RobS  wrote:
> Thanks to Stoney Ballard's hint I too downloaded the new Clippings set
> from barebones.com and am now getting the correct results. This is
> going to be very handy.
>
> The barebones site says, "These are the factory default clippings
> supplied with BBEdit 9. BBEdit will automatically update your
> installed clippings when possible, but certain changes to your
> existing clippings will cause BBEdit to skip them. So, to get the
> latest and greatest, download these and install (or merge) them into
> your existing Clippings folder."
>
> Q1 - what conditions will cause the update to fail to install the new
> Clippings folder?
>
> Q2 - is it safe to throw out similar named folders from the old
> Clippings folder? For example, can I now throw out HTML Glossary.html
> (assuming I've copied over anything I added to it) now that I have
> HTML.html? Similarly with WML Glossary.html? And how about when the
> folders are duplicated in name, such as PHP.php - should I just drag
> and drop and say yes when asked if I want to overwrite?
>
> Rob

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Re: Compare Two Front Documents bringing up wrong documents

[Govinda]

> > Hi. Since upgrading to 9.3.1, I've found the Compare Two Front
> > Documents feature behaving erratically (to me, anyway).

me2.

I have one window with lots of docs in it..  and another with only one
file open in it..  and a couple times when I hit the command to
compare 2 front docs..  then it compared one of those docs that was a
front doc with another that was not (I can't remember if the 2 being
compared were the solo file and one from the other window that was NOT
having focus, or if it was comparing 2 docs from the multi-occupied
window and ignoring the solo file..  but I suspect it was the former
case).  Anyway since it was not consistent I did not pay much
attention and have had predictable and productive days since... so I
would not have even thought of it, but that you mention..

-Govinda

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Charlie Garrison]

Good afternoon,

On 3/12/09 at 12:37 PM -0800, RobS  wrote:

>BBEdit users are the most likely kind of users to modify things like
>the Clippings folder. I would guess that the majority of users did not
>get the current Clippings folder because their old one contained
>modified files. The installer should at least make an effort to notify
>them of that during the update.

BBEdit users are the most likely kind of users to read Release 
Notes too. And the change and details about upgrading the new 
clippings were clearly spelled out.

For me, I would *MUCH* prefer the developers working on 
productivity enhancements in BBEdit rather than writing complex 
upgrade scripts which will never work 100% anyway.

And why not use the powerful find diffs on folders to do the 
update of your clipping sets. That's how I updated mine and 
there is NO way that BBEdit could have scripted that process and 
got it right.


Charlie

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[tedmasterweb]

On Dec 3, 5:36 pm, RobS  wrote:
> On Dec 3, 12:44 pm, Steve Piercy  wrote:
>
> > From where did you download HTML.html? I am also missing this clipping
> > set, and I cannot find it on BB's site.
>
> http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/clippings_library.html
>
> Select the first one, called BBEdit 9 Default Clippings

You might also want to check out a very complete selection of
clippings (many of them mirrored on the link above) at this Github
repository:

http://github.com/tedmasterweb/bbeditclippings

Ted et al

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[RobS]

On Dec 3, 1:46 pm, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> The subsystem that makes that decision looks at the existing
> contents of your various Application Support/BBEdit/ subfolders,
> and if they line up, the subfolder gets updated. So if your
> Clippings have been modified, it'll skip the update.

Computers being computers, they'd be very useful at a task such as
updating. ;-)

For example, the update software could not just enquire as to whether
or not changes were made in one of the Clippings sub-folders and then
come to a full stop if any are found. Rather it could drill down to
the file level and update the sub-folders on a file by file basis,
adding any new folders as required. It might even pop up a useful
comment to the affect that it found a file which it would love to
update but I had modified it and what would I like to do.

BBEdit users are the most likely kind of users to modify things like
the Clippings folder. I would guess that the majority of users did not
get the current Clippings folder because their old one contained
modified files. The installer should at least make an effort to notify
them of that during the update.

Rob

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Re: Escape Conversion?

[Jan Pieter Kunst]

I believe Dennis is talking about URL-encoding, not encoding into HTML entities.

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Steve Piercy]

On Dec 3, 9:36 am, RobS  wrote:
> On Dec 3, 12:44 pm, Steve Piercy  wrote:
>
> > From where did you download HTML.html? I am also missing this clipping
> > set, and I cannot find it on BB's site.
>
> http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/clippings_library.html
>
> Select the first one, called BBEdit 9 Default Clippings

Duh. I was looking for "HTML" not "Default". Thank you!

--steve

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Rich Siegel]

On 12/3/09 at 11:27 AM, rsteven...@accesscable.net (RobS) wrote:

>Q1 - what conditions will cause the update to fail to install the new
>Clippings folder?

The subsystem that makes that decision looks at the existing 
contents of your various Application Support/BBEdit/ subfolders, 
and if they line up, the subfolder gets updated. So if your 
Clippings have been modified, it'll skip the update.

>Q2 - is it safe to throw out similar named folders from the old
>Clippings folder?

Sure, unless you've made customizations. :-)

R.
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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[RobS]

On Dec 3, 12:44 pm, Steve Piercy  wrote:
> From where did you download HTML.html? I am also missing this clipping
> set, and I cannot find it on BB's site.

http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/clippings_library.html

Select the first one, called BBEdit 9 Default Clippings

Rob

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Re: Compare Two Front Documents bringing up wrong documents

[pr10n]

http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit/browse_frm/thread/a584c5df512eb81c

On Dec 2, 8:54 pm, Mark Fitzgerald  wrote:
> Hi. Since upgrading to 9.3.1, I've found the Compare Two Front
> Documents feature behaving erratically (to me, anyway).
>
> If I have two text windows open, with multiple documents in each, and
> I choose Compare Two Front Documents, I no longer get the frontmost
> document in each of the two windows. In fact, I can't figure out why I
> get a comparison of the two documents I get. It seems random, and
> frequently it includes an additional copy of one of the already-open
> documents, in a new window.
>
> If this change is intentional, I don't understand it, and the
> documentation is no help in explaining it. Is there a way of setting a
> preference or something to get to work to the way it did in 9.2?
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Steve Piercy]

On Dec 3, 8:07 am, Stoney Ballard  wrote:
> On Dec 3, 10:06 am, Kerri Hicks  wrote:
> ...
>
> > What version of BBEdit are you using? The instructions above should
> > work in BBEdit 9.x (and I *think* 8.x, too).
>
> This didn't work for me either. I discovered that the HTML clippings
> were missing. I had "HTML Glossary.html", but not "HTML.html". I
> downloaded the factory set and installed them, and now they work.
> Seems like the upgrade should have installed these clippings.

>From where did you download HTML.html? I am also missing this clipping
set, and I cannot find it on BB's site.

--steve

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Re: Dragging folder icon on BBEdit doesn't open disk browser anymore

[christophe_l]

Hello,

Thanks for your response and sorry for the misunderstanding. I forgot
to read all the lines of your messages. That's nice to be so patient
with me.
It's working as expected now.
Christophe

On 1 déc, 17:02, Patrick Woolsey  wrote:
> christophe_l  sez:
>
> >Thanks for your response. Yes, I tried to read the changes notes but
> >gave up... ... I will go to bed without dessert tonight. ; -)
> >BUT, I still miss a lot mydiskbrowserfeature. [...]
>
> Just to clarify, if you set the expert prefs option provided in the release
> notes (just copy & paste this into the Terminal):
>
> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit Misc:MakeTempProjectForFolderOpen -bool NO
>
> BBEdit will then behave as previously.
>
> Regards,
>
>  Patrick Woolsey
> ==
> Bare Bones Software, Inc.                        
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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[RobS]

Thanks to Stoney Ballard's hint I too downloaded the new Clippings set
from barebones.com and am now getting the correct results. This is
going to be very handy.

The barebones site says, "These are the factory default clippings
supplied with BBEdit 9. BBEdit will automatically update your
installed clippings when possible, but certain changes to your
existing clippings will cause BBEdit to skip them. So, to get the
latest and greatest, download these and install (or merge) them into
your existing Clippings folder."

Q1 - what conditions will cause the update to fail to install the new
Clippings folder?

Q2 - is it safe to throw out similar named folders from the old
Clippings folder? For example, can I now throw out HTML Glossary.html
(assuming I've copied over anything I added to it) now that I have
HTML.html? Similarly with WML Glossary.html? And how about when the
folders are duplicated in name, such as PHP.php - should I just drag
and drop and say yes when asked if I want to overwrite?

Rob

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[RobS]

BBedit 9.3

Command-d brings up the Open File By Name dialog.

"Complete" is set to F5 in Prefs. When I do that I get "No completions
available."

I rarely make changes to the commandkey equivalents, so I suspect the
results I mention above are the defaults.

Rob

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Stoney Ballard]

On Dec 3, 10:06 am, Kerri Hicks  wrote:
...
> What version of BBEdit are you using? The instructions above should
> work in BBEdit 9.x (and I *think* 8.x, too).

This didn't work for me either. I discovered that the HTML clippings
were missing. I had "HTML Glossary.html", but not "HTML.html". I
downloaded the factory set and installed them, and now they work.
Seems like the upgrade should have installed these clippings.

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[Kerri Hicks]

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, RobS  wrote:
> On Dec 2, 8:01 pm, Alex Satrapa  wrote:
>> As an example of the  tag, simply do this in BBEdit:
>> 1) In preferences -> Editing: General, set "Show text completions" to be 
>> "After a delay in typing"
>> 2) Select File->New->HTML Document
>> 3) In the document, start typing p_class
>> 4) press TAB
>> 5) Marvel at how you now have a complete paragraph block with class 
>> attribute, and can easily tab between the fields!
>
> Marveling at the possibility of doing that I carefully followed your
> instructions, with this result ...
>
> p_class
>
> ... followed by a Tab character. In other words, nothing magiccal
> happened. Perhaps there are other settings required to make this work?

What version of BBEdit are you using? The instructions above should
work in BBEdit 9.x (and I *think* 8.x, too).

Are you sure you set your "text completion" trigger to "after a delay
in typing"? I have mine set to come up after a delay in typing, so I
type p_class, wait about a half-second for the popup, and then just
hit enter (or tab).

My completion trigger is command-d, so if I switch that setting from
"delay" to "manually", I'd just hit command-d instead of waiting for
the popup. If you don't like command-d, you can change your completion
trigger to whatever you want under Preferences->Menus. Twiddle out
'Edit', scroll down to 'Complete', and use the 'Set Key' button on the
right to change the trigger.

Also, the clippings are language sensitive, so you have to make sure
you're in an HTML document for this to work.

Hope this helps.
--Kerri

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Re: Compare Two Front Documents bringing up wrong documents

[RobS]

On Dec 2, 11:54 pm, Mark Fitzgerald  wrote:
> If I have two text windows open, with multiple documents in each, and
> I choose Compare Two Front Documents, I no longer get the frontmost
> document in each of the two windows. ...

When I try that I get the top-most two documents in one window being
compared, not the top one from each window. Since I've never worked
with more than one window (at least, not since BBE allowed multiple
docs in one window) I can't comment on what should be the expected or
best behaviour.

Rob

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Re: a better auto completion? :)

[RobS]

On Dec 2, 8:01 pm, Alex Satrapa  wrote:
> As an example of the  tag, simply do this in BBEdit:
> 1) In preferences -> Editing: General, set "Show text completions" to be 
> "After a delay in typing"
> 2) Select File->New->HTML Document
> 3) In the document, start typing p_class
> 4) press TAB
> 5) Marvel at how you now have a complete paragraph block with class 
> attribute, and can easily tab between the fields!

Marveling at the possibility of doing that I carefully followed your
instructions, with this result ...

p_class

... followed by a Tab character. In other words, nothing magiccal
happened. Perhaps there are other settings required to make this work?

Rob

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Compare Two Front Documents bringing up wrong documents

[Mark Fitzgerald]

Hi. Since upgrading to 9.3.1, I've found the Compare Two Front
Documents feature behaving erratically (to me, anyway).

If I have two text windows open, with multiple documents in each, and
I choose Compare Two Front Documents, I no longer get the frontmost
document in each of the two windows. In fact, I can't figure out why I
get a comparison of the two documents I get. It seems random, and
frequently it includes an additional copy of one of the already-open
documents, in a new window.

If this change is intentional, I don't understand it, and the
documentation is no help in explaining it. Is there a way of setting a
preference or something to get to work to the way it did in 9.2?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Code Aware Completion ALPHA

[Carlton]

Following a bit of early feedback (thanks Ted):

I want to highlight that there's a test file for Complete.scpt in the
Tools subfolder. I've just added some instructions and removed a
dependency on the Zend Framework Ctags file so you should be able to
get that working with just a default BBEdit install -- any problems
please let me know -- I'll get working on more informative error
messages. :-)

The GitHub URL:
http://github.com/carltongibson/BBEdit-Code-Aware-Completion




On Dec 2, 4:23 pm, Carlton Gibson  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've been playing around trying to get a kind "Code Sense" completion working 
> for BBEdit for a while. The move to the new extended ctags format for the 
> built-in PHP support in BBEdit 9.3 finally showed me the way.
>
> As such I've got a very simple -- but functional -- alpha version working. 
> You can check it out from GitHub:
>
> http://github.com/carltongibson/BBEdit-Code-Aware-Completion
>
> At the moment it only works for PHP -- and it's not very bright, but if you 
> could check it out and provide feedback, that would be great.
>
> In essence, at the moment, you need to add a special comment indicating 
> variable types:
>
> /* @var $test ReflectionClass */
> $test = ...
>
> And at some point later you can get a list of $test's methods, choose one and 
> have it complete with placeholder parameters and all that jazz
>
> To work the script requires a ctags file with the extended format in the 
> ~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Completion Data/PHP/ folder.
>
> That means it will work for built-in classes already. You can also download 
> the Zend Framework ctags file I made from:
>
> http://noumenal.co.uk/resources/downloads
>
> I'm writing up the process of creating the ctags files -- but if you need a 
> ctags file for a different library before that's done let me know.
>
> My next goals are to make it smarter (I don't think the comment should be 
> needed in most cases) and to add support for other languages.
>
> Finally, if you look at the AppleScript there should be enough there to let 
> you wrap the ZenCoding stuff... (I'm happy to help there, but my first 30 
> second attempt failed and I thought it better to let someone with more time 
> have a go.)
>
> Enjoy. Provide Feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Carlton

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