Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
I do something similar.
First, my ssh is configured to perform RSA authentication when ssh-ing from
my Linux host to my Mac, so that I don't need to be entering a password
every time I want to edit a file.
Second, my Linux host's local file system -- at least, the directories
containing files I'm interested in editing -- is remotely-mounted on my
Mac. So, for example, my Linux home directory at /home/username/ is mounted
on the same path, /home/username on my Mac. (Fortunately, this doesn't
obscure my Mac home directory, at /Users/username.) My office Mac uses NFS
to remotely mount parts of the Linux host's file system. On my wandering
MacBook, I use ExpanDrive to remotely mount parts of the Linux host's file
system via sftp.
(Parenthetically, I find ExpanDrive mounts to be a bit fragile, especially
if my laptop sleeps for a longish period.)
Then, in my Linux .bashrc -- I prefer the bash shell -- I define function
bbedit:
bbedit()
{
ssh ${SSH_CLIENT%% *} cd $PWD bbedit $@
}
Then, if I ssh to my Linux host from my Mac, executing bbedit ... on the
Linux host command line behaves identically to doing it from the Mac
command line.
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Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Good morning, On 1/09/14 at 4:12 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: Usually I find that script-based solutions are fragile, and your comment to that effect made me suspicious. :) I don't agree that scripts are inherently fragile; it depends on the coding. You might be surprised how many *programs* are really scripts. Anyway, this conversation got me thinking about the different possibilities, and I decided to expand the script a bit. You can find it here: https://github.com/cngarrison/rbbedit I also listened to armin: On 1/09/14 at 1:00 AM -0700, armin heiner...@googlemail.com wrote: alias bb 'ssh armin@$REMOTEHOST bbedit sftp://$USER@$HOST/$PWD/\!*;' The new script has different methods to copy files between server and workstation. The default method is 'sftp', which uses the above technique. The other methods are 'scp' and 'expan'. Feedback and contributions are welcome. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Good afternoon, On 31/08/14 at 6:38 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: Too ambitious? Don't know, but not sure how that is much better than using SSH as the daemon. All the communication can already be done with SSH, so why introduce another protocol into the mix? The IP address of the BBEdit machine should be easy enough to get from the current login session, and then just set an environment variable that the script uses. Pretty much all the limitations with script I attached earlier, can be solved with additional coding to harden the script. Even the requirement for ExpanDrive could be replaced with `scp` commands. The script does require 'remote login' to be enabled on the BBEdit machine, but I don't see that as any more of a burden than a separate daemon for this purpose. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
I don't know if this is the solution you are looking for: I'm working on remote servers all the time using either XQuartz or iTerm. In my .tcshrc I have an alias alias bb 'ssh armin@$REMOTEHOST bbedit sftp://$USER@$HOST/$PWD/\!*;' Using bb filename the file opens in a BBEdit window on my Mac. Even bb dirname opens a project window. Works without any problems for me. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
I misunderstood your previous post -- your solution is better than I thought at first. I will give it a go to see how it works in practice. I agree that using an existing protocol daemon is preferable (less work, if nothing else). Usually I find that script-based solutions are fragile, and your comment to that effect made me suspicious. :) On Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:30:33 PM UTC-7, Charlie Garrison wrote: Good afternoon, On 31/08/14 at 6:38 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Too ambitious? Don't know, but not sure how that is much better than using SSH as the daemon. All the communication can already be done with SSH, so why introduce another protocol into the mix? The IP address of the BBEdit machine should be easy enough to get from the current login session, and then just set an environment variable that the script uses. Pretty much all the limitations with script I attached earlier, can be solved with additional coding to harden the script. Even the requirement for ExpanDrive could be replaced with `scp` commands. The script does require 'remote login' to be enabled on the BBEdit machine, but I don't see that as any more of a burden than a separate daemon for this purpose. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garr...@zeta.org.au javascript: github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
At work I regularly edit files that resides on the server. I do it in one of two ways - either Interarchy using the edit command or mounting the remote server using ExpanDrive. Both these solutions use sftp (in my case). On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Gregory Shenaut greg.shen...@me.com wrote: Would sshfs (in macports) be an option? I used this once in 2009 to do something similar. Greg Shenaut On Aug 30, 2014, at 15:50 , Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au wrote: Good morning, On 30/08/14 at 2:46 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: * Is it possible to invoke BBEdit to edit a file using a command on a remote Linux machine? The bbedit tool seems to do exactly this on the local OSX machine, but I'm wondering if anyone has magic that could accomplish the same result remotely. I'm not aware of anything to do this. There have been past attempts (even by me) but nothing successful. The best I came up with was automating the process of: - scp localfile osxhost:localfile - ssh osxhost bbedit -wait --resume localfile - scp osxhost:localfile localfile It was too fragile though; it was quite a while ago and I don't recall the problems. I'd love to hear someone else saying they have a solution for this one. Would be great if I could set EDITOR on remote machines to point back to bbedit. * Can the BBEdit shell workspace be directed to any SSH connection? The worksheet is not a TTY, so you cannot have an ssh *session*. You can send commands to remote servers via ssh from a worksheet (assumes ssh key login). I use this method quite a lot to (eg) set permissions for files on remote server, or restart a running process on remote server, etc. I also use worksheet to copy files to remote server using rsync; especially handy for mirroring sites. * I am assuming that between the open via ftp/sftp, and the mounting of remote file systems, BBEdit should be able to access and edit the remote files. Are there any gotchas here I should be aware of? There may be some gotchas, but none I think you need to be aware of. BBEdit has quite good handling of files on remote volumes. I sometimes use the built-in s/ftp tools; I used to use external s/ftp (Interarchy) almost exclusively; I now use mounted remote volumes with ExpanDrive. [The new version of ExpanDrive has introduced some strange race conditions with its new local file cache; I've not found the reproducible steps yet. Anyone else seeing problems with new ExpanDrive 'modifying files since last save'?] As someone new to BBEdit, you will bring a fresh perspective to editing files on remote servers. I look forward to hearing what solution(s) you find work best for you. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Thanks guys... the portion of the problem I'm least concerned with is the actual editing. I've been doing the mount and edit thing for a couple of years, and after some fiddling around it generally works. Need to make it more slick in case I have to connect to multiple machines more easily, but I think I can work that out. The bigger issue is all those times when you're at the command line of an ssh session and you need to edit a file, or a tool like git wants to invoke an editing session. It sounds like nobody yet has a good solution for that, which is disappointing. I guess I'll have to come up with something for that myself. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: The bigger issue is all those times when you're at the command line of an ssh session and you need to edit a file, or a tool like git wants to invoke an editing session. It sounds like nobody yet has a good solution for that, which is disappointing. I guess I'll have to come up with something for that myself. This may be adaptable to current need: https://github.com/alexkazik/textwrangler-remotecontrol. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc. sie...@barebones.com http://www.barebones.com/ Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Try installing pico or nano. They are a lot more friendly than vi. [fletcher] On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks guys... the portion of the problem I'm least concerned with is the actual editing. I've been doing the mount and edit thing for a couple of years, and after some fiddling around it generally works. Need to make it more slick in case I have to connect to multiple machines more easily, but I think I can work that out. The bigger issue is all those times when you're at the command line of an ssh session and you need to edit a file, or a tool like git wants to invoke an editing session. It sounds like nobody yet has a good solution for that, which is disappointing. I guess I'll have to come up with something for that myself. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
I've tried those as well, while better I still would prefer a proper text editor. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Thanks for the details... and no offence, but it seems pretty fragile. :) I was thinking of running a daemon on login on the remote machine, passing it the IP of my BBEdit OSX box (perhaps in an SSH shell this can be derived automatically?). The OSX machine would run a daemon of its own listening for connections... ideally it could figure out how to use the mount command to connect to a file system on a remote machine when an edit request first arrived. Then a command would be written that talks to the local daemon, passing it edit requests and waits for a completion signal. Source for the remote side would be open and portable to any posix system (hopefully). Too ambitious? -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Hello, I am new to BBEdit and have scanned the docs and searched for an answer to my questions, but perhaps the fastest way is just to ask here. I am likely going to be working quite a bit with remote Linux dev environments in the near future, and I cannot abide emacs, vi, vim, gedit and so forth. I would very much like to be able to use an OSX based text editor as my weapon of choice, and BBEdit looks like a very good candidate... if I can get it to do a few magic tricks: * Is it possible to invoke BBEdit to edit a file using a command on a remote Linux machine? The bbedit tool seems to do exactly this on the local OSX machine, but I'm wondering if anyone has magic that could accomplish the same result remotely. * Can the BBEdit shell workspace be directed to any SSH connection? * I am assuming that between the open via ftp/sftp, and the mounting of remote file systems, BBEdit should be able to access and edit the remote files. Are there any gotchas here I should be aware of? (apologies if this is a duplicate post, my first attempt seems to have gone AWOL) -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Good morning, On 30/08/14 at 2:46 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: * Is it possible to invoke BBEdit to edit a file using a command on a remote Linux machine? The bbedit tool seems to do exactly this on the local OSX machine, but I'm wondering if anyone has magic that could accomplish the same result remotely. I'm not aware of anything to do this. There have been past attempts (even by me) but nothing successful. The best I came up with was automating the process of: - scp localfile osxhost:localfile - ssh osxhost bbedit -wait --resume localfile - scp osxhost:localfile localfile It was too fragile though; it was quite a while ago and I don't recall the problems. I'd love to hear someone else saying they have a solution for this one. Would be great if I could set EDITOR on remote machines to point back to bbedit. * Can the BBEdit shell workspace be directed to any SSH connection? The worksheet is not a TTY, so you cannot have an ssh *session*. You can send commands to remote servers via ssh from a worksheet (assumes ssh key login). I use this method quite a lot to (eg) set permissions for files on remote server, or restart a running process on remote server, etc. I also use worksheet to copy files to remote server using rsync; especially handy for mirroring sites. * I am assuming that between the open via ftp/sftp, and the mounting of remote file systems, BBEdit should be able to access and edit the remote files. Are there any gotchas here I should be aware of? There may be some gotchas, but none I think you need to be aware of. BBEdit has quite good handling of files on remote volumes. I sometimes use the built-in s/ftp tools; I used to use external s/ftp (Interarchy) almost exclusively; I now use mounted remote volumes with ExpanDrive. [The new version of ExpanDrive has introduced some strange race conditions with its new local file cache; I've not found the reproducible steps yet. Anyone else seeing problems with new ExpanDrive 'modifying files since last save'?] As someone new to BBEdit, you will bring a fresh perspective to editing files on remote servers. I look forward to hearing what solution(s) you find work best for you. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?
Would sshfs (in macports) be an option? I used this once in 2009 to do something similar. Greg Shenaut On Aug 30, 2014, at 15:50 , Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au wrote: Good morning, On 30/08/14 at 2:46 PM -0700, Andrew B andrew.e.brownsw...@gmail.com wrote: * Is it possible to invoke BBEdit to edit a file using a command on a remote Linux machine? The bbedit tool seems to do exactly this on the local OSX machine, but I'm wondering if anyone has magic that could accomplish the same result remotely. I'm not aware of anything to do this. There have been past attempts (even by me) but nothing successful. The best I came up with was automating the process of: - scp localfile osxhost:localfile - ssh osxhost bbedit -wait --resume localfile - scp osxhost:localfile localfile It was too fragile though; it was quite a while ago and I don't recall the problems. I'd love to hear someone else saying they have a solution for this one. Would be great if I could set EDITOR on remote machines to point back to bbedit. * Can the BBEdit shell workspace be directed to any SSH connection? The worksheet is not a TTY, so you cannot have an ssh *session*. You can send commands to remote servers via ssh from a worksheet (assumes ssh key login). I use this method quite a lot to (eg) set permissions for files on remote server, or restart a running process on remote server, etc. I also use worksheet to copy files to remote server using rsync; especially handy for mirroring sites. * I am assuming that between the open via ftp/sftp, and the mounting of remote file systems, BBEdit should be able to access and edit the remote files. Are there any gotchas here I should be aware of? There may be some gotchas, but none I think you need to be aware of. BBEdit has quite good handling of files on remote volumes. I sometimes use the built-in s/ftp tools; I used to use external s/ftp (Interarchy) almost exclusively; I now use mounted remote volumes with ExpanDrive. [The new version of ExpanDrive has introduced some strange race conditions with its new local file cache; I've not found the reproducible steps yet. Anyone else seeing problems with new ExpanDrive 'modifying files since last save'?] As someone new to BBEdit, you will bring a fresh perspective to editing files on remote servers. I look forward to hearing what solution(s) you find work best for you. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au github.com/cngarrison metacpan.org/author/CNG O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
