Re: Intent
fascinating, similar experiences...How is this community set up??? SStorch
Re: mid- summer dullness
In a message dated 8/10/02 11:42:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we can sow it here in the fall and it will come up like mad in the spring ,very vital . ..cheer up i smell fall in the hot mid-summer air. let me know :)sharon would love some seed, Maybe at the mid-Atlantic conference I'ii see you, I'll trade you some of my bc with 500-508 in it...SStorch:~}
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Allan: I would like to do both things, I feel to discuss a book one needs to read the book, I repeat the question. Does anyone know who to approach to have it reprinted? If you have a copy who printed it? I appreciate you going to the trouble of sending excerpts but I would really like to be able to study the whole book, I feel it would be of great use to those of us using potentised preps. I believe in going to the source if you want something to happen. David C David - Do you need to 'own it,' or would you like to discuss it? If there are people interested in discussing it, I don't mind posting exerpts of it to the list. No point, though, if no one is interested. -Allan
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Allan: I would like to do both things, I feel to discuss a book one needs to read the book, I repeat the question. Does anyone know who to approach to have it reprinted? If you have a copy who printed it? I appreciate you going to the trouble of sending excerpts but I would really like to be able to study the whole book, I feel it would be of great use to those of us using potentised preps. I believe in going to the source if you want something to happen. David C The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications' which is an English organization. Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the history of this book's publication for David. ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission
Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
Hi Allan and all .I have added on chapter ten and a few comments at the very bottom for any interested in reading that far Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' The following is from Agriculture of Tomorrow by Eugen and Lily Kolisko. This title is out of print and is reproduced here for purposes of education. Today, people in general are little inclined to detach themselves from the claims of the material world and to seek the spiritual directly in the physical world around them . . . It is, however, precisely from observing directly the sense-perceptible that a right path will open out for those who wish now to work entirely within the fild of present-day science, if they really seek to discover the spritual there. It can be done . . Chapter 1 INTRODUCTION It may seem strange to speak about smallest entities in agriculture, but it is absolutely necessary that farmers and gardeners learn to understand this important phenomenon. The problem of minutest quantities, or better smallest entities, was studied from 1920 in the Biological Institute at the Goetheanum (Stuttgart) and later on in the Biological Institute at Bray, Berks. The attempt to find a remedy for Footand-Mouth Disease led us to the question of smallest entities. What is the right concentration of the specific remedy to be injected? Rudolf Steiner suggested that the effect of different dilutions on germinating plants should be studied. From 1920 until today we have been studying this interesting subject. One might think that this is a medical problem rather than an agricultural one. Of course it is a medical problem in that we are looking for a certain remedy, but it becomes an agricultural problem as well if we study how the growth of plants is affected by substances which are diluted, or rather potentised. What does potentise mean? Exactly what the word itself expresses. In potentising a substance, we increase its effectiveness. We make the substance more potent. The strange thing about potentising is, that we have to reduce the amount of the substance which we want to make more potent. In everyday life we are accustomed to think: if we want to make something more effective, we have to take a bigger quantity. For instance, if we want to make coffee sweeter, we take a second teaspoonful of sugar. In homeopathy we are told just the opposite thing. If we want a stronger action from a certain remedy, we have to potentise it, that means dilute it with water or alcohol, again and again, in a rhythmical way. This is the first and most important thing we have to learn: to discriminate between matter and force. Matter can act in two different ways: as matter, or as the specific force behind the matter. In everyday life we ask only for matter, for quantity, and we do not even stop to think, that there is something like a force which is active in every kind of matter. Sugar for instance is not only sweet that is one quality we discover with our sense of taste. Besides being sweet, sugar has many other qualities which we are unable to taste but none-the-less have definite reactions within our organism. Now we must raise another important question: What do we want in reality? The substance itself, or the inner quality of the substance? For instance, a farmer may be convinced that his soil needs lime. How does he solve the problem? Usually he digs a large amount of lime into the soil. Again and again he will dig in lime. Let us now study the influence of smallest entities of lime on the germination of wheat. We put a certain number of seeds in a control dish with water. Then we dissolve one gram of calcium hydroxide in ten parts of water and shake the mixture for some minutes; then we have the first potency or a dilution of 1: 10. We take I part of the first potency; mix it with 9 parts of water; shake for the same time, and we have the second potency, or a dilution of 1:100. We may continue this process of diluting as long as we like. Usually we make our experiments up to the 60th potency. Having finished all the potencies, we insert the carefully selected seeds, and, a few days later we compare the results. The seeds inserted in he first potency of lime scarcely start to germinate. The effect of lime in such a high concentration is thus proven unfavorable. The seeds in the 2nd potency start to sprout, while while those in the water control are much more advanced in growth. The 3rd potency is more advanced than the 2nd, the 4th is of about the same value as the water control, the 5th already surpasses the water control and has definitely better developed roots. The 6th potency is more advanced than the 5th, and the 7th and 8th potencies show still more increase in growth. That means, if we observe these few potencies, that a dilution of 1: 100,000,000 of lime produces a much better growth than a lower potency. The lime works much more powerfully
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications' which is an English organization. Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the history of this book's publication for David. Allan I have sent David directions where he can borrow a copy of Agriculture of Tomorrow Lloyd Charles ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses from 1978 to now its not our fault!
Re: Lime and Humus
James, et. al., There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30 through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH soils have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an inspired method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to play a role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils. I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or more feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and phosphate filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words, . . . if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences upward during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with some clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later. As many of us know, Steiner did not later indicate this dosage, nor any more than barely hint at how it might be prepared or administered. There is a brief mention in Lecture Four, page 74 of using orthoclase or feldspar, which are parent materials for clay, to make the horn silica remedy, and (I haven't found it now, it may have been in one of the discussions) he also mentioned capping off the open end of the horn with clay. Presumably had Steiner lived longer this would have come out. Now, however, we are faced with progressive farmers experimenting with horn clay while stricter Steiner preservationists cry, Steiner didn't say that. and That's not BD! Personally I don't care what we call it as long as we elucidate the scientific principles Steiner tried to open our eyes to. On one very well run Australian farm in New South Wales the farmer was showing me a stratum of sandy limestone an inch or two thick that was exposed in a gully and was a meter or a little less below the surface of the field. That didn't used to be there when I was a kid. he said. Well, you may imagine NSW, with its occasional heavy rains, could leach the lime out of the topsoil and carry it down that far before it hardened into stone. If this happened repeatedly just such a layer might form, and do so within one person's lifetime. If this can happen, who is to say it cannot be reversed, given the right application of dynamic patterns of force? It is not unheard of for soils to lose a point in pH in a year through leaching. So why not gain a point in a year from the opposite application of forces? Also keep in mind what Robin was saying about not withholding expertise for personal gain. As some know and others are realizing, we can apply dynamic patterns over large acreages with radionic instruments and field broadcasters, to say nothing of Glen Atkinson's method of using low potency homeopathic combos in high volume spraying. Such progressive methods are relatively cheap and easy and the more we do them and succeed the more we learn about how best to do. If all applications of Steiner's remedies are limited to stirring and spraying we will have quite a struggle trying to stay afloat on tiny islands of healthy agriculture in a civilization that is going down the tubes all around us. Best, Hugh Lovel Hugh Dear Daniel, Some time ago I wrote of how one of our members had increased the pH of his soil by using quartz crystals in his flow forms used for stirring the preps. He was able to increase pH from 5.5 to 6.5 in one year. The secret apparently was that the preps were stirred [running through the quartz] intermittently for a month before spraying out. this is one way. Regards James Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis Radionic Insect and Parasite control Bioethical Agriculture Consultant - Original Message - From: Daniel Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: Re: Lime and Humus Are there other ways to make acidic soil more neutral? Is that something even to worr about? Daniel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: Lime and Humus In a message dated 8/6/02 2:36:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does lime do this? Why would destroying the humus-building complex be a problem in forest soils but not agricultural soils? Any ideas? You must be judicious with lime. Lime applied to corpses causes more rapid decomposition. Likewise it causes quick release of organic matter stored in the humus structure of the soil. SStorchLime makes the father rich and the son poor. That is an old saying that rings true... Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses from 1978 to now its not our fault! how can we find out about this?
Let's Get On With It! [was: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
You guys...why are you worrying about this. A bunch of BD freaks on an email list share a long out of date, obscure, long out of print book...Fragments of it at a time. Big deal! Information wants to be free...the slogan rings true here. Let's get on with it and discuss it. I've been curious about Koliskos' work for many years, with no way to find out about it. Hooray to Lloyd for having the guts to put it out there for us. Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses from 1978 to now its not our fault! how can we find out about this?
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
- Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 11, 2002 5:28 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies The copyright of the book is owned by 'Kolisko Archive Publications' which is an English organization. Perhaps someone could tell the history of Kolisko's work and the history of this book's publication for David.Allan I have sent David directions where he can borrow a copy of Agricultureof TomorrowLloyd Charles ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could getpermissionShould be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expensesfrom 1978 to now its not our fault!
Kolisko's work
James Stewart, who heads up the Rudolf Steiner Archives, has kindly said he's willing to post the Kolisko book on his website for everyone's benefit if someone will scan the book or copy it. In either case, he will need a copy of the book for proofing. If anyone is willing to help with this, his contact information is: the URL: http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/BalWorld/BalWld_index.html and James' email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Deborah
FW: (Solara's ) August cosmic surf report
Title: FW: (Solara's ) August cosmic surf report AUGUST 2002: Swept Away About the Surf Reports: Each month I receive anxious emails wondering where the Surf Report is or why it is late? The Surf Reports are based on my intuitive feelings of the energies of the month, not on astrology or numerology. Sometimes, it takes me a few days to tune into the energies of the month especially if I am busy, undergoing a personal crisis, or in a deep quiet place where words don't come easily. SOLARA'S SURF REPORT FOR AUGUST 2002 The Surf has been rising steadily for months now. In July, the current became almost impossibly strong, unhinging us from our old moorings, propelling us into New Directions. Now, in the very exciting month of August, new swirling motions has been added to the Surf, making us feel like we are inside a giant whirlpool. Most whirlpools spin around and pull us down. The swirling whirlpools of August are spiraling us around and around, spiraling both inside us and outside us, pushing us into our new levels of being. It's easy to see ourselves as small boats which have broken loose from our old anchorages and been pulled out to sea by an extremely strong current. Now a mighty storm is brewing, tossing us this way and that, moving us into unexpected directions. We are surrounded by torrents of rain and crashing thunder and bolts of flashing lightning. The Winds of Change are howling, drowning out all other sounds. There is so much to do: tying down the sails in the billowing wind, bailing the boat which is being pelted with sheets of water, just trying not to capsize or fall overboard as our boat gyrates wildly in the surging seas. In the tumult of change all around us, in the pressing urgency of each moment, we have released our comfortable, established routines. Did we eat anything today? Did we remember to get the mail? Did we remember to pay our bills? Did we send a birthday card to our mother? WHERE are we going? None of that matters anymore. There is something far more urgent which we are dealing with. CHANGE. MASSIVE CHANGE. Change so huge that it supersedes everything. The Winds of Change howl and blow Our little boat is pushed deeper out to sea Occasionally, we get a glimpse of something blowing away from our boat--- something not tied down, or maybe it was and now it's just time for it to be released. So in spite of our efforts at securing it, off it goes in a blur, absolutely gone from our lives. Forever. We might perhaps be sad at our seeming loss, but we no longer have the luxury of reflection. The Winds of Change are blowing more ferociously with each passing moment and we have too much to deal with. We are in the midst of tremendous intensity, yet there is also a sense of exhilaration and excitement that we feel. We don't have a clue where we are going or how the details will play themselves out, but underlying everything is a deep knowing that it's going to be all right. IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THAN All RIGHT; IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT. We are being propelled into the lives that we really want. And this raging storm of Change is getting us there. We are dealing with many seemingly diverse elements in August: The relentlessly powerful current pushing us along. No way to escape it, so we might as well allow it to propel us into the Unknown. It's one of the strongest currents we've ever felt, but it's getting us to where we need to be. The swirling, whirling whirlpool energies all around us which make it difficult to focus on specifics or concentrate or plan anything out in our usual fashion. These spiraling energies make it utterly impossible to carry on with our old patterns and force us to do things in new ways. We don't have the time and space to think things out; instead we find ourselves in the midst of a flurry of activities with too much to do, doing what we can and letting go of the rest. The sometimes forceful shucking off of the old elements of our lives which can't be taken into the New with us. Most of the time this feels like being caught in a tornado; in the midst of all our activity, we can only observe the blur of change around us. Oops, there goes our roof; there goes our car; there go our old friends; there goes our jobs; there goes our old lives. Whatever no longer belongs to our New Directions is being pulled away from us. This is both tremendously exciting and a bit shocking. If there wasn't so much going on, perhaps, we could stop and think about it. The effortless, clicking into place of new locations or residences. Many of us are moving from July to October. When we find a new place, it will be absolutely perfect for us. These new residences will recalibrate us so we can move into our new levels of creativity. And for those of us who are being relocated, we must move into our new locations before the next phase of our New Lives can begin. If you feel a move coming, know that it will happen surprisingly easily. Remember
9-11
Our pathetic New York leaders want to honor the 9-11 dead by reading the ''Gettysberg Address'' written and spoken by Abe Lincoln on the hallowed battlefields of Gettysberg. They want to read the ''Four Freedoms'' that was written and spoken by Roosevelt after WWII. What a dishonour to those who died in these battles. What a symbol of our times that our catatonic leaders cannot come up with some original prose to honour those who died at the WTC on 9-11. They should crawl back under the rock they came out from under to [dis]serve the people of the state of NY and these united states...SStorch
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Hi! Allan, I emailed the copy right holder asking what plans there are for reprinting, saying that there would be a number on this list interested. Yet to hear back. If they say they have no plans to print it, may be it could be placed on the 'Net as an Ebook for single down load for personal use? Gil Allan Balliett wrote: Should be a sunset clause on copyright - if they have not recouped expenses from 1978 to now its not our fault! how can we find out about this?
Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
Hi all, I'm up for the sharing, reading, and exchanging ideas on Kolisco's work. I've read the book about 4 years ago. The book was not mine so I don't have a copy.Yes I enjoyed readingit.I'll participateaccording tothe bits and piecesdelivered on this list. My comments for are for Chapter 1: Steiner comments on this part of Kolisko's research in "Mensch und Welt: Das Wirken des Geistes in der Natur (1923)": - "...We have demonstrated with this method the action of smallest entities of substances. You see, the effect of very small quantities is curiously rhythmic. If we dilute, we obtain at a the end, at a given dilution, the best growth. Growth increases and decreases with each dilution; this evolution occurs rhythmically. By giving these substances to plants, we thus demonstrate that their growth depends on something that acts on them from the outside, and what acts on them isrelated to what is rhythmic in its environment...". So... how does this relationship function? What is the outside rhythm? I'll venture an opinion. Perhaps the relation is that of 'material elements' to 'cosmic rhythms (the motion of the sun, moon, planets and constellations). Linking Koliscos'potency' research to Maria Thun's ideas about cosmic influence, tells us that the cosmos acts on BOTH plants and soil elements.Maria T. showed that, at the time of germination,the cosmos influencedeither roots,fruits, leaves, or shoots.Kolisko showed that the cosmos influenceselementsaccording to dilution in water.Perhapsaweb of interactions here? How can we formulate this web.? Second, I wonder about his treatment variable; germination. If a potency of 9 is best for lime on germination of seeds, what would be the substance and its dilution for, say, leaf growth? Is it possible that each plant part has a 'smallest entity' given by aspecificsubstance. Couldn't we look at the Maria Thun's cosmic conditions to get an answer? For example, leaf signs (e.g.Aquarius, Libra, andGemini)would not only influenceleave, but specific minerals.What minerals are under these cosmic conditions? Couldn't potency be linked tothe chaos that a seed encounters under cosmic influence?If this is the case, then it should not be to difficult to elaborate. What say you? Hmmm... I need more meditation before I turn my attention to Chapter 10. Robin - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 11, 2002 5:05 AM Subject: Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages) Hi Allan and all .I have added on chapter ten and a few comments at the verybottom for any interested in reading that farKoliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' The following is from "Agriculture of Tomorrow" by Eugen and Lily Kolisko. This title is out of print and is reproduced here for purposes of education. "Today, people in general are little inclined to detach themselves from the claims of the material world and to seek the spiritual directly in the physical world around them . . . It is, however, precisely from observing directly the sense-perceptible that a right path will open out for those who wish now to work entirely within the fild of present-day science, if they really seek to discover the spritual there. It can be done . . Chapter 1 INTRODUCTION It may seem strange to speak about "smallest entities" in agriculture, but it is absolutely necessary that farmers and gardeners learn to understand this important phenomenon. The problem of minutest quantities, or better "smallest entities," was studied from 1920 in the Biological Institute at the Goetheanum (Stuttgart) and later on in the Biological Institute at Bray, Berks. The attempt to find a remedy for "Footand-Mouth Disease" led us to the question of "smallest entities." What is the right concentration of the specific remedy to be injected? Rudolf Steiner suggested that the effect of different dilutions on germinating plants should be studied. From 1920 until today we have been studying this interesting subject. One might think that this is a medical problem rather than an agricultural one. Of course it is a medical problem in that we are looking for a certain remedy, but it becomes an agricultural problem as well if we study how the growth of plants is affected by substances which are diluted, or rather potentised. What does "potentise" mean? Exactly what the word itself expresses. In potentising a substance, we increase its effectiveness. We make the substance more potent. The strange thing about potentising is, that we have to reduce the amount of the substance which we want to make more potent. In everyday life we are accustomed to think: if we want to make something more effective, we have to take a bigger quantity. For instance, if we want to make coffee sweeter, we
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Dear Alan, Could the publisher put it on the web as an eBook. James - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies Hi! Allan, From what you say and from my look around the 'Net, it would seem that Kolisko's Agriclture of Tomorrow, is a work that would be good for us to work through as a group. It would seem that it is out of print, with the last publisher list it out of print. (At forty seven Pound fifty!!!). Could it be scanned and put on a Site, in whole or in part? And then at a time convenient to the leaders on the list, have some sort of protracted examination of the potency part at least. I think it would be good if as many as possible trialed the same potencies of our stock Preps and Cures and then posted our results so that as a group, we can build up a greater understanding of this very important aspect of homoeopathy and in our case, those potenising sprays and Preps for broadcasting. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, which was initially directed by RS himself? -Allan
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Dear list, The problems with the work of Lili and Eugen Kolisko is that all the work that I have seen never resolved an optimum potency which was common to all plant or agricultural work. Potentisation rates of homoeopathic remedies is not an exact science that says that if you use this potency you will get this result. even amongst homoeopathic chat lists there is no common acceptance that this , or that potency is better than another, it just that this person used this remedy at this potency and achieved this result. As a general rule the greater the similarity to the drug picture the higher potency that you will use, the smaller the dose the more beneficial the results. The potencies for agricultural elimination use will be far different to those potencies used for enhancing life force. Even potencies are only really applicable for that particular time in that particular situation.. The question is what potency will achieve the result that i am looking for with the minimum amount of substance. Peter Rheumkoff has removed white ants from a house by broadcasting a pepper at LMM potency. The use of homoeopathic dose in large scale agricultural applications has only really become possible with the development of modern radionic instruments. It is one thing to do pot trials, another to work over the vastness of some of Australia's cattle and sheep country. Just try the logistics of stirring and applying preps over 500,000 acres as some BD practitioners do in Australia. When you are using spiritual forces to counteract something, the greatest source of knowledge of the effects of your work will come from the spiritual realms. Follow your guidance as to what the optimum potency would be. I have tried at other times to get people on the list to discuss what they are doing potency wise with their preps. I have used BD preps at potencies of up to CM [a dilution of 1/1000 done 100 times] with great results. There are three effective methods of checking potencies: 1.] The use of a radionic analysis instrument such as a Don Mattioda or Malcolm Rae instrument, a Bio Photon instrument, a Bruce Copen or an SE-7 will all give an automatic reading of potencies.Use of a radionic instrument will give you an exact potency reading. They will give you a reading of vitality which you can use to compare the effects of different potencies or treatment options. 2.] The use of a refractometer to test the effects of what you are doing. This method is promoted by people such as Arden Andersen and Phillip Wheeler 3.] The use of dowsing. As accurate as any radionic instrument. Any one in Australia who is interested in Agricultural radionics can come to one of my courses, where I cover techniques of dowsing and radionics suitable for agricultural appplications. The use of any one of these techiques have been discussed at length in the list over a period of time. In many cases the correct rate, or alternatively potency rate could be the subject of intellectual property which someone may not want to give out. Just write to Glen and ask for how he makes his remedies. Even if he did tell you everything that he has learnt from his experience you would still not have that innate grasp of homoeopathy that comes from experience. Potentisation can never be a cook book science. You will develop a feel for the essence of what you are trying to do, the next thing is to experiment in the same way as the Kolisko's did. There is never an easy way of gaining knowledge. Second hand knowledge without a feel for the subject can lead many a person into strife because the experimenter can affect the outcome of the experiment. I hope that this post will stimulate some discussion of methods and techniques of agricultural radionics. Sincere regards from the Land of the Wizards of Oz James Hedley. Radiasesthesia and Radionic Analysis Radionic Insect and Parasite control Bioethical Agriculture Consultant - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:40 PM Subject: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies I posted the comment below in the hopes of stimulating some interest in posting and discussing the work of the Kolisko's through their monumental book, Agriclture of Tomorrow. Gosh, it didn't provoke a single rise. Is there really no interest on BD Now! in this most important work, which was initially directed by RS himself? -Allan About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural homoeopath, who stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have done. I am concerned that some of us armed with only part knowledge, may be using potencies that have an effect other than the one we are aiming to have. Gil - The Kolisko's tracked this information and
Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
Dear Gil, Nice to hear from you again. You ask about the likely effect of different potencies in agricultural applications. This subject has fascinated me for ages, unfortunately I have to report that I am really no closer to answering that question than when the quest started. Each time that that the answer seems to be in reach there seems to come along another explanation that might help illumine my path. It seems to be like Einstein's search for a unified field. If only I first knew all the physics of why homoeopathy works as it does it would be a good start. At present I am studying wave theory and frequency, as something that I read in one of Phillip Callahans books may help. He was talking about a spring tyne cultivator made in Australia that thad a reputation as being very good for weed control. Callahan tested it and found that it resonated at 700 hz, close enough to the frequency of Indigo [698 hz]. Further research into the effect of colour indicates that Indigo has the effect of sedation. Maybe there could be a use for colour therapy in soil amellioration. If there is a correlation between potentisation and frequency it should be possible to design experiments to test this theory. Does anyone have any ideas how this might be done or any ideas about the relationship of potentisation to frequency. Yours sincerely James Hedley - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies Hi! James, Would you like to post on your take on the likely effect of different potencies? About eight or ten years ago, I heard a talk by an agricultural homoeopath, who stated some potencies sedated, while others stimulated, some are life supporting and some are life suppressing. I can't find my notes at the moment and I wondered if you had come across this or found it in the work you have done. I am concerned that some of us armed with only part knowledge, may be using potencies that have an effect other than the one we are aiming to have. Gil James Hedley wrote: Dear Lloyd, Alan and everyone, Greetings from the Land of the Wizards of Oz. I have potencies in water that are up to 10 years old and they are still effective. Alcohol in the water is a good preserving medium. I use about 20%, but if the remedy is to be used immediately straight water will do. I use rainwater off the roof, however when the water supply runs low in the tank we pump spring water so there is always a plentiful supply of minerals in the water. When potentising large quantities of water into a spray tank for a boom spray etc a bit of molasses [around 2litres per 1000 litres is enough.] gives enough carbon to improve the potentisation. There is no scientific proof that this is more effective, but energetically it seems to take much less time than potentising into straight water.With a Rae 2 Pot potentiser I can potentise 5000 litres in around 30 minutes.- As for the use of D6 Equisetumthis is fine if you are hand dynamising it, with a two pot potentiser I would look at 60C as being more efective. The more dilute the substance the more efficaceous it becomes, particularly in soil amellioration work. Kind regards James Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies Dear Lloyd, et al, I was looking at the Kolisko preferred receipe for 508 in Peter Proctor's book the other day. It's a D6 potentization of equesitum tea. Proctor asks for distilled water but I wouldn't think that that would be economically practical for us as the potentization was carried into gallons. Am I safe to assume that I can make a soon-to-be-used dilution with regular spring water? -allan I can't see a problem - we use clean rainwater - if I lived in the hills and had a nice clean potable spring I would use that Instrument potentised or dilution and sucussion ? (just curious) Cheers Llolyd Charles
Re: Insect peppers.
Dear Gil, Apologies for the delay in answering, the weather has been so unseasonably warm thatI have been busy doing work that normally would not need doing until spring. I dont know why your experiment has not worked. If divine inspiration gives me an answer I will contact you. There is just so much to learn about agricultural radionics that it is important to know what has not worked as well as what has. The only thing that I can think of is that it could have been burnt in Mercury in retrograde which appears to nullify the effects of burning peppers. regards James Hedley - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Insect peppers. Hi! James, the tin cans were used to contain the material being burnt. I use the tin only once to avoid pollution. I used fruit wood, so that there was little chance of resin, essential oil or other material from the wood getting into pepper. The burning fruit wood is the heat source and the tin is the containment. Gil James Hedley wrote: Dear Gil, I have difficulty follwing the part of your post " the burning was at the right time by the Llewellyn's Moon Guide you recommended. I remember clearly it in the small hours of a particularly cold night. I used fruit wood from pruning my fruit trees and a new tin can for each Prep. I did ten or so that time." Could you please clarify what you were doing again as I can't see what pruning fruit trees, tin cans and preps have to do with each other. Regards James
Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and TheCalcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
Hi all, I'm up for the sharing, reading, and exchanging ideas on Kolisco's work. I've read the book about 4 years ago. The book was not mine so I don't have a copy. Yes I enjoyed reading it.I'll participate according to the bits and pieces delivered on this list. My comments for are for Chapter 1: Steiner comments on this part of Kolisko's research in Mensch und Welt: Das Wirken des Geistes in der Natur (1923): Thanks very much for your contribution to this discussion, Robin. And thanks for twisting the thread off from the finger and back to the moon. -Allan
ADMIN: Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
Folks - Let's try to minimize the quote material posted to the list. Please quote only enough lines suffecient unto the meaning of the day, ok? Thanks -Allan
Re: 9-11
Our pathetic New York leaders want to honor the 9-11 dead Steve - I understood you to say a few weeks ago that the 9/11 holocaust was setup by corporation that needed government funding to move out of NYC. You last couple of posts do not seem consistant with the theory. Where are you at now on this? -Allan
Re: 9-11
are you starting with me??? I relayed a piece of info from an aquaintance in regrds to the events in Manhattan and the deteriorating infrastructure...the 9-11 message is about the potato[e] heads that lead our state...where is the relation???SStorch
Re: Let's Get On With It! [was: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
- Original Message - From: Aurora Farm You guys...why are you worrying about this. A bunch of BD freaks on an email list share a long out of date, obscure, long out of print book...Fragments of it at a time. Big deal! Information wants to be free...the slogan rings true here. Let's get on with it and discuss it. I've been curious about Koliskos' work for many years, with no way to find out about it. Hooray to Lloyd for having the guts to put it out there for us. Woody Thanks Woody but Allan should get all the credit for this - he started it many months ago
Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages)
Dear Allan, You said: -"...thanks for twisting the thread off from the finger and back to the moon. -Allan". Bienvenue mon ami! Thanks. I agree. People should not only focus on who is pointing the finger, but consider thedirection of the finger . Yes details are important, butonly on a relative scale. I say --- be humble, share information, cautious, proud,and learn... ---. Thank you for pointing the finger. Robin - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 11, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: : Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' and The Calcium Process in Nature (long 6 pages) Hi all,I'm up for the sharing, reading, and exchanging ideas on Kolisco's work. I've read the book about 4 years ago. The book was not mine so I don't have a copy. Yes I enjoyed reading it. I'll participate according to the bits and pieces delivered on this list.My comments for are for Chapter 1:Steiner comments on this part of Kolisko's research in "Mensch und Welt: Das Wirken des Geistes in der Natur (1923)":Thanks very much for your contribution to this discussion, Robin. And thanks for twisting the thread off from the finger and back to the moon. -Allan
Re: 9-11
are you starting with me??? I relayed a piece of info from an aquaintance in regrds to the events in Manhattan and the deteriorating infrastructure...the 9-11 message is about the potato[e] heads that lead our state...where is the relation???SStorch To me there is a huge gulf between the two and I was trying to account for your sentiments, or to try to re-adjust my perceptions. Count me in Mr. Roboz' court on this one. It's the kind of country where a guy can be caught with his pants down and beat impeachment by bombing Iraq. Who knows what else is possible? (Or just how long before we will F the ineffible?
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission I'm quite sure this could be negotiated with the Kolisko's trust. It may cost a few U.S.$ but that would be recouped after printing. Peter.
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. Ironically, here in the US, a homeopathic pharmacy cannot potentize a substance for me without a doctor's prescription (!) Is it legal for you to import homeopthically prepared substances? Peter.
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Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they have stock? -Allan Agriculture of Tomorrow is available in paperback 1982 ed for 8 pounds 50 (uk) and original hardback ed 1978 for 35 pounds (uk) from from the Country Bookshop online bookstore. To access the bookstore go to http://www.buy-a-book-online.com/home.htm the country bookstore link is near the bottom of the page. roger
