Re: BD 501 (5x)
Do you ever get to sleep in the summer or does someone else do that for you? Thanks for the ever rare expression of empathy, Peter. Hosting the list, hosting Joel Salatin on Sept 4, hosting the BD Conference on October 4-6. Yes, it is all consuming. (I'm sure it shows up in my spelling.) Proxy sleeper? Yes, I could use one. Thanks for the consideration and the very optimistic outlook on the Kolisko book! ;-) -Allan
Re: BD 501 (5x)
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Right now, I'm looking for conservative, practical answers or for reminders for the things I've forgotten due to the fury and flury of CSA farming. -Allan Hi Allan. Look at using Potentised Preps and a Cosmic Pipe to get your BD out on to the feilds. saves heaps of time. Cheers Tony Robinson Nz Down Under.
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Dr Nichoaus Remer, when he was the consultant for the Northern Group in the late 1960's worked on this issue. I was present at some of the taste tests on carrots that were sprayed with various potencies of 501. all the taste pannel were unanamous that the seventh was the best. This might vary with different tintures, time and places so why not try it out for yourselves. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: BD 501 (5x) - Original Message - From: Allan Bballiett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: BD 501 (5x) Anyone know what this means on a JPI label? How do you use it? -Allan Allan I believe its been potentised to 5x cause they ran out of the real stuff (happens occasionally) - seems this is ok if you belong to the official annointed movement but frowned upon if you want to do it outside the system (like in a cosmic pipe or spraying all the preps potentised) It should work at least as well as the original (Kolisko's work supports this) and is a fair bet that its been prepared so the material you have is used as per normal practice. Better check it out with JPI tho. Cheers Stirrer from downunder LCharles
Re: BD 501 (5x)
The reason for me right now, Peter, is that I'm serving 163 CSA shares with the help of 4 interns. That means that I've been hopping for so long I can't think on my own and my hands will hardly flex to type. it's joyful for me to be able to write BD Now! and ask about other people's experiences and seek their advice. I can hardly afford to 'trial' carrots just as I can hardly afford to wait for WEEKS to find out whether I improved them or bolted them. I get your larger message. Right now, I'm looking for conservative, practical answers or for reminders for the things I've forgotten due to the fury and flury of CSA farming. -Allan Dr Nichoaus Remer, when he was the consultant for the Northern Group in the late 1960's worked on this issue. I was present at some of the taste tests on carrots that were sprayed with various potencies of 501. all the taste pannel were unanamous that the seventh was the best. This might vary with different tintures, time and places so why not try it out for yourselves. Regards, Peter.
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Becuz, then what would you do with it??? Stir for twenty minutes and apply as usual. If you had a stirring machine you could achieve stirring Nirvana in fifteen minutes without pre-potenization...SStorch. PS: the number at JPI is 276 930 -2463, just ask Merlin...
Re: BD 501 (5x)
actually, I did ask Merlin. My impression was that he said that the 20minute stir listed on the pre-potentized stuff was only there to make people who equate time with mass feel more comfortable with the pre-potentized stuff. In actuality, as in any step in potentization, it just needs a 2 minute stir. Allan
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Dear Allan, This is SO right. Stir as appropriate, not as told by rote formula. For years I have dowsed for how long to stir 500, 501, etc. and come up with times like 45 minutes, 43 minutes, whatever. Let's not forget Greg Willis's rigid 60 minute rule. He believed that, and it was doubtless true for him even though he did the best job of creating vortices in a barrel I've ever seen. But according to the best I can tell we can get high end results with less stirring of fewer perfect vortices, which is not to say we will match Greg--who claims he is going to sue me for stealing his horn clay. He's still a genius and a good praticioner. But in some areas Greg may be or rather probably is all wet. One of the variables we are working with is our thoughts influence our experiments. So do Greg's. Greg meditates every morning for at least 30 minutes so he really focuses his thinking. Probably that influences his results more strongly. More of us should do that. In any event, I simply dowse for the appropriate potentization time. If for a homeopathic, like this one we're talking about, my pendulum indicates 15 minutes, that's it. If it comes up 5 minutes that's it. The essence of control is to use the EXACT amount of force that is neccessary, no more and no less. Aren't we seeking control? We should think about that. Don't we want to be more exact? Best, Hugh Lovel actually, I did ask Merlin. My impression was that he said that the 20minute stir listed on the pre-potentized stuff was only there to make people who equate time with mass feel more comfortable with the pre-potentized stuff. In actuality, as in any step in potentization, it just needs a 2 minute stir. Allan Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: BD 501 (5x)
- Original Message - From: Allan Bballiett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: BD 501 (5x) Anyone know what this means on a JPI label? How do you use it? -Allan Allan I believe its been potentised to 5x cause they ran out of the real stuff (happens occasionally) - seems this is ok if you belong to the official annointed movement but frowned upon if you want to do it outside the system (like in a cosmic pipe or spraying all the preps potentised) It should work at least as well as the original (Kolisko's work supports this) and is a fair bet that its been prepared so the material you have is used as per normal practice. Better check it out with JPI tho. Cheers Stirrer from downunder LCharles
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Below comes from Steiner's AgricultureLectures; and yes I had to loosely translate from my French book..., Here I refer to stirring preps: Steiner explains how 'Enthusiasm brings forth therapeutic effect". InGermanitcomes from "Enthusiasmus and Begeisterung". How then to decide what is appropriate 'enthusiasms?.He adds that although enthusiasm weighs nothings it has vibrations and that enthusiastic peoplecanevenhave spiritual vibrations. He also tells us that 'homogeneity must be attained' (What I understand is that organic content must be rendered colloidal...). Then he talks about Ritter medications and some experiments that I don't know about...? Then, personally, I was taught to use a wooden ( I think it was willow) stick,hand chosen, to stir rain water in a wooden barrel. To stir with good intent! I don't remember any particularlength, although, some preps needed to be sprayed early morning, so stirring was often the first thing I did after breakfast. I wonder about acid rain used as rain water? Oh well... Cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 21, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: BD 501 (5x) Dear Allan,This is SO right. Stir as appropriate, not as told by rote formula. Foryears I have dowsed for how long to stir 500, 501, etc. and come up withtimes like 45 minutes, 43 minutes, whatever.Let's not forget Greg Willis's rigid 60 minute rule. He believed that, andit was doubtless true for him even though he did the best job of creatingvortices in a barrel I've ever seen. But according to the best I can tellwe can get high end results with less stirring of fewer "perfect" vortices,which is not to say we will match Greg--who claims he is going to sue mefor "stealing" his horn clay. He's still a genius and a good praticioner.But in some areas Greg may be or rather probably is all wet.One of the variables we are working with is our thoughts influence ourexperiments. So do Greg's. Greg meditates every morning for at least 30minutes so he really focuses his thinking. Probably that influences hisresults more strongly. More of us should do that.In any event, I simply dowse for the appropriate potentization time. If fora homeopathic, like this one we're talking about, my pendulum indicates 15minutes, that's it. If it comes up 5 minutes that's it.The essence of control is to use the EXACT amount of force that isneccessary, no more and no less. Aren't we seeking control? We should thinkabout that. Don't we want to be more exact?Best,Hugh Lovelactually, I did ask Merlin. My impression was that he said that the20minute stir listed on the pre-potentized stuff was only there tomake people who equate time with mass feel more comfortable with thepre-potentized stuff. In actuality, as in any step in potentization,it just needs a 2 minute stir.AllanVisit our website at: www.unionag.org
