RE: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-28 Thread Chris Trem



Hi 
Jennifer,

The more 
Ilearn about this subject the more I realize how important it is to understand what's really going on, the true nature of government and our 
relation to it.Here are some links that may be of interest to 
you:

This link 
hasa wealthof information on invisible contracts with government by 
George Mercier. It's the equivalent of about a 750 page 
book:
http://www.geocities.com/philately.geo/incon.htm

These online 
audiosexplain the importance of having a clear chain of title to your land 
and how one can have freehold, allodial title toland:
http://www.wces.org/html_files/landgrants.htm

Burney Brushears who 
withdrew his family from government jurisdiction many years ago, recorded these 
audios. He explains the whys and hows of withdrawing from the system and how to 
protect assets usingcorporation sole and other 
strategies:
http://www.wces.org/html_files/brushears.htm

This is a link to some very nice files on sovereignty:ry nice filesBill Thornton's 
William R. ThorntonWilliam R. Thornton
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/index.html

This link 
takesyou to Burney Brushears website (login required).Thegroup 
links and documents sections are very good:
http://gamaliel.intranets.com/login.asp

Quotes from the 
founding Fathers  other notable personalities:
http://www.io.com/~velte/quotes.htm

"Enlighten people generally, and tyranny and 
oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day." 
-Thomas Jefferson 

Best 
wishes,
Chris


-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
Jennifer RochesterSent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:14 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Off: Mandated 
vaccinations coming

  Hi Chris.
  
  I amWAY behind on e-mail, and just now got to this. Unfortunately, 
  some of a learn a little too late, eh?!?
  
  I plan on doing all I can to get out of the 'system' when my children are 
  grown, but I feel the risk right now in losing them should I do it now would 
  be too great. I am, however, not entering any of my children born in the 
  future into the system. My last child was born at home unassisted, and does 
  not have a birth certificate, SSN etc, and it will remain this way unless she 
  should decide to volunteer for these things in her future on her own. I wish I 
  had known more earlier to protect my other children, butI am doing the 
  best I can now with the information I have learned. 
  
  On the good newsfront, I got a letter from CPS yesterday saying 
  that"based on the information gathered from the assesment, we have 
  arrived at the consensus that your family does not need services at this time" 
  
  While I am VERY leery about some of the wording in this statement, I am 
  relieved that the case is closed on thisparticular issue. I will be sure 
  and follow my instincts a little better from now on, and we will stay as far 
  from the 'system' as we possibly can. It was whenI made the mistake of 
  panicking and taking my child to the emergency room that I placed us on the 
  system radar, a mistake which I do not intend to make in the future.
  
  Jennifer[EMAIL PROTECTED]~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Click 
  here for the best diet and nutrition information you will ever find!www.westonaprice.org~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*"As 
  nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both 
  instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. 
  And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the 
  air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." 
  -- William O. 
  Douglas~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-27 Thread Jennifer Rochester



Hi Chris.

I amWAY behind on e-mail, and just now got to this. Unfortunately, 
some of a learn a little too late, eh?!?

I plan on doing all I can to get out of the 'system' when my children are 
grown, but I feel the risk right now in losing them should I do it now would be 
too great. I am, however, not entering any of my children born in the future 
into the system. My last child was born at home unassisted, and does not have a 
birth certificate, SSN etc, and it will remain this way unless she should decide 
to volunteer for these things in her future on her own. I wish I had known more 
earlier to protect my other children, butI am doing the best I can now 
with the information I have learned. 

On the good newsfront, I got a letter from CPS yesterday saying 
that"based on the information gathered from the assesment, we have arrived 
at the consensus that your family does not need services at this time" 
While I am VERY leery about some of the wording in this statement, I am 
relieved that the case is closed on thisparticular issue. I will be sure 
and follow my instincts a little better from now on, and we will stay as far 
from the 'system' as we possibly can. It was whenI made the mistake of 
panicking and taking my child to the emergency room that I placed us on the 
system radar, a mistake which I do not intend to make in the future.

Jennifer[EMAIL PROTECTED]~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Click 
here for the best diet and nutrition information you will ever find!www.westonaprice.org~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*"As 
nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances 
there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is 
in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - 
however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- 
William O. 
Douglas~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris Trem 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:06 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Off: Mandated vaccinations 
  coming
  
  Jennifer,
  My heart goes 
  out to you and to all others in this situation. It is truly insane that 
  government can just walk in and take your children away if they want to. There 
  is a good but hidden reason why the state has the authority to do this to you 
  and your kids.
  
  The issue 
  has to do with sovereignty.Here 
  is what Burney Brushears Author of "Strategic Withdrawal" has to say about the 
  marriage license contract:
  
  "In applying for a marriage license, you 
  are doing exactly the same thing as two slaves who approach the plantation 
  owner and request permission to mate. Also, like slaves, any offspring would 
  be born as slaves and would be the property of the same plantation owner...By 
  signing an application for a marriage license, you have made the government a 
  partner and co-owner of everything produced by the marriage, including the 
  offspring".
  
  The jist of the issue is that we have 
  allowed government to take away our freedoms and rights just by signing our 
  name. By our own hand the state is given permission to regulate us. The state 
  then has authority to mandate vaccinations for our children and mandate that 
  our kids be educated ingovernment (public) schools. 
  
  ASocial Security number 
  (SSN),isa co-signerI.D. to thenational debt. Ifyou have a drivers license, thenyou have willingly given upyour constitutional right to freepassage. The drivers license contract 
  converted that right into a taxable privilege so that we now have no right to 
  travel under any conditions except by those imposed by the licenser  the 
  government.The IRS has the authority to lootbank accounts, 
  lienproperty and garnishwages without a court order to authorize 
  it because 
  when we went to the bank to open an account using a SSN we had 
  to sign a bank signature card  another legal contract. When we signed the 
  bankcard we consented to abide by the rules of the bank The rules of the bank state that we are 
  obligated to abide by the administrative rules of the department of the 
  Treasury. IRS agents will file these signature card contracts as exhibits at 
  a trial and the judge will enforce this voluntary contract. A person is 
  presumed to understand and concur with that which bears his signature! 
  
  
  More from 
  Burney:
  "In 
  title 28 USC 3002(15) the term "United States" includes any federal 
  corporation, federal agency, or instrumentality of the United States. The 
  agency that exercises jurisdiction under the Buck Act is the United States, by 
  and through the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a wholly-owned, 
  bought-and-paid-for, stooge for the International Monetary 
  Fund."
  
  "A 
  legal "instrument" is any wr

RE: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-12 Thread Chris Trem



Jennifer,
My heart goes out 
to you and to all others in this situation. It is truly insane that government 
can just walk in and take your children away if they want to. There is a good 
but hidden reason why the state has the authority to do this to you and your 
kids.

The issue has 
to do with sovereignty.Here is what Burney Brushears Author of "Strategic 
Withdrawal" has to say about the marriage license 
contract:

"In applying for a marriage license, you 
are doing exactly the same thing as two slaves who approach the plantation owner 
and request permission to mate. Also, like slaves, any offspring would be born 
as slaves and would be the property of the same plantation owner...By signing an 
application for a marriage license, you have made the government a partner and 
co-owner of everything produced by the marriage, including the 
offspring".

The jist of the issue is that we have 
allowed government to take away our freedoms and rights just by signing our 
name. By our own hand the state is given permission to regulate us. The state 
then has authority to mandate vaccinations for our children and mandate that our 
kids be educated ingovernment (public) schools. 

ASocial Security number (SSN),isa 
co-signerI.D. to 
thenational debt. 
Ifyou have a driver’s license, 
thenyou have willingly given 
upyour constitutional right to 
freepassage. The drivers license 
contract converted that right into a taxable privilege so that we now have no 
right to travel under any conditions except by those imposed by the licenser – 
the government.The IRS has the authority to lootbank accounts, 
lienproperty and garnishwages without a court order to authorize 
it because when we went to the bank to open 
an account using a SSN we had to sign a bank signature card – another legal 
contract. When we signed the bankcard we consented to abide by the rules of the 
bank The rules of the bank state 
that we are obligated to abide by the “administrative rules of the department of 
the Treasury”. IRS agents will file these signature card contracts as exhibits 
at a trial and the judge will enforce this voluntary contract. A person is 
presumed to understand and concur with that which bears his signature! 


More from 
Burney:
"In 
title 28 USC 3002(15) the term "United States" includes any federal 
corporation, federal agency, or instrumentality of the United States. The agency 
that exercises jurisdiction under the Buck Act is the United States, by and 
through the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a wholly-owned, 
bought-and-paid-for, stooge for the International Monetary 
Fund."

"A legal 
"instrument" is any written document such as a contract, deed, or a lease. An 
"Instrumentality" is the person who is created by, bound by, or obligated upon 
the face of an instrument. When your name is on an instrument called a Social 
Security Card, voter registration card, or driver's license, you are the 
instrumentality obligated by that instrument. Because you are the bankrupt 
United States, ( the US publicly admitted bankruptcy on March 7, 1933) then you 
have no right to buy, own, or use property. You are subject to taxation and 
regulation in the form of traffic fines, user fees, licenses, and so forth. The 
remedy is the rescission of the contracts and instruments." 


Be a free sovereign 
and live under God's laws, or be a state slave and live under man's corrupt 
laws.Can't do both. The choice is ours.
Best,
Chris


-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer 
RochesterSent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:48 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations 
coming

  Me too Bonnie. My 5 yr old is autistic due to vaccination.
  
  We totaly don't 'do' the doctor thing, but this last week I thought my 
  child had appendicitis (sp?), so I took her to the hospital to find out. 
  Turned out she had a kidney infection. They were notgoing to let us 
  leave without seeingher take some antibiotics first. As this was 
  happening, I was praying, askinghow the heck we could get out of this 
  one. Ireally didn't think we could. Well, as soon asshe tasted the 
  antibiotic, she threw up BIG-TIME! As the nurse stepped out of the room to get 
  something to clean it up, I dumped the rest down the sink :-) 
  We went to the health food store the next morning and got some great 
  herbal tea that has a few natural antibiotics in it, as well as some good 
  tasting chewable tablets that were madefrom cranberries. The infection 
  is almost completely gone now, without antibiotics (of course!) 
  
  Anyway, CPS just showed about 10 minutes ago, because the hospital turned 
  us in for not vaccinating! My heart is still in my throat!!! She said she just 
  needed to make sure it wasn't a money issue or anything like that. She says 
  we're ok, but I have had friends who have had their children ta

Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-08 Thread Mary Ann Skillman



Bioport, the Michigan based private company which has manufactured anthrax vaccines for the government since Desert Storm is own by the Bush-Bin Laden families.

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Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-08 Thread Steven McFadden



Bioport, the Michigan based private company which has manufactured anthrax
vaccines for the government since Desert Storm is own by the Bush-Bin Laden
families.


Actually, it is not owned outright by them, but the Carlyle Group (Bushes
and cronies) are investors in BioPort.  the Bin Laden family withdrew from
the Carlyle Group shortly after 9/11.

Best, Steven 




Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-08 Thread Jennifer Rochester



Me too Bonnie. My 5 yr old is autistic due to vaccination.

We totaly don't 'do' the doctor thing, but this last week I thought my 
child had appendicitis (sp?), so I took her to the hospital to find out. Turned 
out she had a kidney infection. They were notgoing to let us leave without 
seeingher take some antibiotics first. As this was happening, I was 
praying, askinghow the heck we could get out of this one. Ireally 
didn't think we could. Well, as soon asshe tasted the antibiotic, she 
threw up BIG-TIME! As the nurse stepped out of the room to get something to 
clean it up, I dumped the rest down the sink :-)
We went to the health food store the next morning and got some great herbal 
tea that has a few natural antibiotics in it, as well as some good tasting 
chewable tablets that were madefrom cranberries. The infection is almost 
completely gone now, without antibiotics (of course!) 

Anyway, CPS just showed about 10 minutes ago, because the hospital turned 
us in for not vaccinating! My heart is still in my throat!!! She said she just 
needed to make sure it wasn't a money issue or anything like that. She says 
we're ok, but I have had friends who have had their children taken away because 
of this issue, so I am having a bit if a hard time calming down at the moment. 
Prayers, etc. would be MUCH appreciated from anyone here. On top of it all, when 
she came, I was outside playing with my kids. So she of course asked why they 
weren't in school. Well, we homeschool, which is fine, but we are not 
registered, as I don't believe in it. I am SO hoping this doesn't lead to 
anything. 

AGH!
Jennifer[EMAIL PROTECTED]~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Click 
here for the best diet and nutrition information you will ever find!www.westonaprice.org~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*"As 
nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances 
there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is 
in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air - 
however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- 
William O. 
Douglas~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bonnie 
  York 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:22 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations 
  coming
  On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 08:06 AM, Mary Ann Skillman 
  wrote:
  Bioport, the Michigan based private company which 
has manufactured anthrax vaccines for the government since Desert Storm is 
own by the Bush-Bin Laden families.How does one check on 
  information like this. I'd like to check this out myself.I exempt my 
  kids from vaccinations. My youngest nearly died from Whooping cough *after* 
  she had the vaccine in her first two years.Bonnie 
York


Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations coming

2002-03-08 Thread Rural Center for Responsible Living



Dear Jennifer,

I have never vaccinated my children, and I have been yelled at 
and threatened to be reported to social services by a doctor, plus treated very 
badly on many occasions at our local health department. Now in Kentucky we are 
blessed to have an MD who is also a homepathic/ anthroposophical doctor. I drove 
21/2 hours to see him this fall, for my daughter to have a visit with him. When 
he asked me if I immunized, and I said no, he said " I am so glad". It was the 
most wonderful experience to have a competent medical doctor support my 
descision. He has also been very supportive in helping me equipe myself with 
home remedies, since I am 2 1/2 hours away from the nearest health food store. I 
am so sorry you are having to deal with this. Is there any way you could 
establish a relationship with a good natural doctor in your area? I would be 
interested in knowing where you live. You may already know about them, but I 
have had excellent results with the Weleda remedies for colds and flu, started 
at first signs of on set of symptoms. There is also a home remedy kit put 
together by Dr. Incao, a great anthroposophical doctor who has some great 
perspectives on immunization. 

CPS B?!@#.

A big hug, Christy

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Jennifer Rochester 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:47 
PM
  Subject: Re: Off: Mandated vaccinations 
  coming
  
  Me too Bonnie. My 5 yr old is autistic due to vaccination.
  
  We totaly don't 'do' the doctor thing, but this last week I thought my 
  child had appendicitis (sp?), so I took her to the